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#48 - Womens Study Major (09/27/2014) [-]
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#134 - kombee (09/25/2014) [-]
Well the universe isn't capable of creating itself. If we would look at the chain in a logical manner one thing would be created from another thing and so on until an end is reached. That "end" (considering the nature of things) would have to be able to create anything and sustain everything created, since that "end" made everything appear in the first place. It would have to be eternal (since it's the beginning and the end), intelligent (since unintelligent things don't behave by themselves) and pocess all power (since creating a universe requires power). The definition of that is God. inb4 then how do ou know there isn't more gods? An all encompassing being would automatically not leave room for more all-encompacing beings, and if it isn't all encompassing it's not capable of being the key source of everything created.
#187 - klaes (09/25/2014) [-]
What was before God? Saying "it's eternal, there was nothing before it" is pretty worthless. By the way, are you aware of how new elements are made inside of stars? You're using an argument from ignorance, "we don't know what it was, so it must be God".
I'm not going to claim that I now what was before the Big Bang. As Terry Pratchett said "at first there was nothing, which exploded". I can see why that doesn't make sense. I think defaulting the answer to God is equally faulty, though.
#234 - kombee (09/25/2014) [-]
Think of it this way. You live on earth, so Earth encompasses you in a way. The solar system encompasses Earth, the galaxy encompasses the solar system and the universe encompasses the galaxy. We don't know what encompasses the universe but it must be something bigger than that (you can't fit a bigger box in a smaller box now can you?), and whatever is encompassing the universe is in turn encompassed by something even grander in scope. Alright now follow that (possibly eternally big) chain to it's conclusion, to it's very end. What "thing" will you find and what attributes will that thing inhibit? Extrapolate and think for yourself.
Here are my thoughts:
If that thing in the end of the chain isn't eternal it would "die out" somehow. But to what? To where does the energy/matter/whatever it's comprised of go? There is no room. The very fact that that thing is all encompassing (by definition since it's the last box) suggests that it has to be eternal, otherwise it wouldn't be able to start or "begin" in the first place. Action>Reaction is key here, reaction by itself doesn't happen. A domino brick doesn't fall and start a chain reaction by itself, something must push it first. That's in simple terms my logic for why the "end" would have to be eternal for it to exist.
Now, I'm not just trying to default the answer to just God without reason. Look at the attributes we define God by: All Eternal, All-Powerfull, All-Encompassing. You see how those attributes mirror those of the "end" thing we just extrapolated?
In math terms:
"End" = 1+2+3+4+5....+10023+10024....= ∞ (infinity)
God = ∞ (infinity)
"End" = God
You get what I mean now? By very definition it is God (God isn't a bearded man in the sky as some might've gotten the impression of). Now, what God says exactly and how his relationship is towards us is another discussion entirely. I'll let you research for yourself, but if you ever need help or my point of view feel free to write to me anytime.
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