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#24 - Can't wait to see this one >Googled Photos by Carl … 09/16/2014 on Anons dad dies +8
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#15 - Entrapment. Inadmissible. Next case.  [+] (30 new replies) 09/11/2014 on One of those schemes +317
#140 - CIS White Male (09/12/2014) [-]
you obviously dont know what entrapment is
#139 - CIS White Male (09/12/2014) [-]
entrapment is when an undercover cop offers an illegal good or service directly without you asking, and then arresting you. so if Chris Hanson was asking guys if they want to bang an underage girl, then arrests them that would be entrapment. but these guys are the ones initiating contact, which is very illegal.
#130 - exsequor (09/12/2014) [-]
Not entrapment.
Dude's getting convicted.
Learn the fucking law.
Next case.
User avatar #110 - penileburglar (09/12/2014) [-]
Except TCAP had tons of successful arrests and successful prosecution. So you're obviously wrong.
#88 - CIS White Male (09/12/2014) [-]
but isn't showing up to the location taking an action towards committing a crime?
User avatar #81 - whtkid (09/11/2014) [-]
The way they get off of that is they tell the guy they won't charge him if he signs a wavier allowing them to show his face
User avatar #68 - assyria (09/11/2014) [-]
The decoys never start the conversation, the men do.
That's purposely done just to avoid the entrapment defense.
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User avatar #61 - philliyoMLB (09/11/2014) [-]
Do you even know what that word means?
#53 - kingofqueens (09/11/2014) [-]
Entrapment is only a defense when an officer turns you into the criminal. For example, if the highway patrol forced you drive in the left lane, then pulled you over in the left lane, that would be entrapment. But in this case, they didn't force the guys to come out and meet the under-aged girl, they could have simply said no.
User avatar #121 - Greevon (09/12/2014) [-]
But what if it's just going out and meeting? I mean, if they never say that they intend to have sex or anything and they don't have any way of proving intent, there's still no case.
User avatar #128 - assyria (09/12/2014) [-]
The decoys/team would never agree to the man coming over if there was no sexual intent. Plus, in many states, it's illegal just to solicit a minor online like they do. Which is why some men try to run without ever entering the house and they can still be arrested.
#123 - kingofqueens (09/12/2014) [-]
well, yeah. But they already admitted they wanted to meet for sexual reasons in this case. If they never implied it, the police wouldn't have a case.
User avatar #126 - Greevon (09/12/2014) [-]
okay then.

Then why is everyone complaining about entrapment? I can see if they are just assuming that they intended to have sex and then arresting them, but seriously only a pedophile is going to say that they will fuck a 12 year old.

I think statutory rape laws get pretty fucking stupid past age 16 though. Technically, I was committing statutory rape for two months while I was 18 and my GF was 16. They should really account better for age gaps in Texas. At least it was only two months and not until she turned 18 like most places.
#54 - kingofqueens (09/11/2014) [-]
That's under California law at least
User avatar #55 - economicfreedom (09/11/2014) [-]
California is such a fucking police state it's embarrassing that they're part of America....
#56 - kingofqueens (09/11/2014) [-]
#42 - raveneight (09/11/2014) [-]

Entrapment laws vary by jurisdiction. I will use the Florida statute here, seeing as the show was filmed here at one point. In Florida, the two elements of entrapment are:
(1) A law enforcement officer, a person engaged in cooperation with a law enforcement officer, or a person acting as an agent of a law enforcement officer perpetrates an entrapment if, for the purpose of obtaining evidence of the commission of a crime, he or she induces or encourages and, as a direct result, causes another person to engage in conduct constituting such crime by employing methods of persuasion or inducement which create a substantial risk that such crime will be committed by a person other than one who is ready to commit it.
(2) A person prosecuted for a crime shall be acquitted if the person proves by a preponderance of the evidence that his or her criminal conduct occurred as a result of an entrapment. The issue of entrapment shall be tried by the trier of fact.
(Source: www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/777.201[1] )
#44 - raveneight (09/11/2014) [-]

As far as I know, prosecutions resulting from To Catch a Predator rely on two things. First, the fact that the law enforcement officers were not the first people to INITIATE contact. Second, seeing as these men often are driving for hours to meet these kids for their sexual encounter, there is a lot of time to change their minds and go home (as opposed to if a cop walks up to you and asks you to buy drugs, which is a much faster decision with less thought behind it).
The bolded parts of the statute above are important here. Between the time for contemplation and the fact that contact was not first initiated by law enforcement, it becomes difficult for defendants to argue that they were not prepared to commit the crime in the first place, or that the entrapment was the sole reason that the crime was committed. That said, it is relatively murky and there are a lot of attorneys that would agree that the line was crossed, or that it was at least close to being crossed.
TL;DR: Guilty of solicitation because actively soliciting a crime is a crime itself; not guilty of entrapment because of the way the statute is interpreted.
User avatar #29 - gammajk (09/11/2014) [-]
Nope. It's only entrapment if they would have been unlikely to commit the crime in the first place.
They were online looking for kids to fuck and they showed up to a place in real life when they thought they could fuck a kid.
User avatar #108 - lieutenantderp (09/12/2014) [-]
I'm 17. If I'm on Omeggle or some other sites and a 14/15 year-old claims to want to engage in sexual intercourse with me, would I be a pedophile if I said that's fine? Or what if I'm 24 and she's 20?
#52 - infested (09/11/2014) [-]
what if he weren't lookin for that booty

what if he were lookin for a MAN's butt

#76 - ddoggdiggity (09/11/2014) [-]
we could do this the easy way or the hard way
#57 - sirowlington (09/11/2014) [-]
User avatar #73 - goodatlosing (09/11/2014) [-]
Anyone have the episode number?
#75 - sirowlington (09/11/2014) [-]
9:15 for gif
User avatar #33 - ruzzell (09/11/2014) [-]
That would only be the case if the cop online didn't start the sex conversation, if he/she did It's entrapment. If the other person started the conversation about sex then it's perfectly legal for the cop to play along and set up a place to arrest you. This is the law in Canada/America anyway, not sure about other countries.
User avatar #34 - gammajk (09/11/2014) [-]
Sure, but most, if not all, of the cases I've seen are the cops hanging out in chatrooms and the other person initiating not only the conversation itself, but initiating the conversation turning to sexual topics.
User avatar #69 - ruzzell (09/11/2014) [-]
I'm not arguing police online behavior, i was merely correcting you on the legality of entrapment. If the police just wait for someone to start the underage sex conversation then that isn't entrapment. I'm going to need some citations if you want me to believe that is police behavior in chat rooms.
User avatar #22 - anonymoose (09/11/2014) [-]
TCAP jump through a lot of loopholes to avoid entrapment.
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#33 - Shadowsteppah (09/08/2014) [-]
Sent one of these saps a selfie asking them to tell me more about me being a white male. The fuck nugget actually said sorry.

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