people said the same about fallout 3/NV after falling in love with 1 and 2, embrace the change

Why should anyone embrace the continued casualization that Bethesda pushes? All it does is make the quality of the game worse and lowers the amount of time you can invest in the game. I put nearly 300 hours into the base game of New Vegas because there was so much to do, I'm at 80 hours in 4 and I just can't find anything else to bide my time with.

The thing is though, fallout 3 although bitched about when it first came out due to it being so different in perspective and shit, was what it was advertised to be. Don't get me wrong, I agree people do complain like bitches, always. It's like when a band releases a new album....However.

Fallout 4 didn't feel like an RPG for me, you weren't making your role, you were given one role. You are a man who started off in the old world, who was a veteran, a father, and had a loving wife, his goal is to get his son back, a noble goal. We would all do the same in his shoes, I know I would, and he is a good man for that. So basically from the start, it makes you a good guy, or at least a neutral good (If that is what you call it, correct me if I'm wrong.). You never really have the choice to be a bad guy, sure you might be a man willing to do anything to save his son, but you are never truly pushed to a point where you question if you are the good guy. Where you have to accept that you have to become a monster to save your son, or stick to your old world principles and push on, making it harder for yourself to do so.

All in all, it's a great game, good enough graphics for me, great world, huge, lots of hidden areas, but it lacked the witty fallout charm that I was hoping bethesda learnt from obsidian. Which is my fault. However, I disliked the voiced PC and how dialogue was so, fake choice like. You could be a dick, sarcastic, or goody two shoes and they basically always said the same thing after one line of unique dialogue. I also disliked the new skill system, and how it didn't create dialogue options. The game is a diamond and I love it, but that being said it is a clouded one. This is just one Jon's opinion, I rarely share my opinions on fj due to how hate bandwagons start. If you disagree, I accept that, but don't ass rape the red thumb just because my opinion is different and poorly worded I assume. I just got back from work and haven't slept in two days.

Not all RPGs have non-linear storylines. I think you meant that it wasn't as big of a sandbox as the previous titles.

You have a point, however I personally think the purest form of the rpg is one where you can choose your path, at the very least a basic Good, Neutral, Evil, path. Where choices matter.

I might be wrong, but I felt as though it was like my choices mattered little, hell during my first play through during the great amazing battle, nobody attacked me, they all just ignored me, because I was playing all the sides. I hadn't realized I had to choose one yet, I went into the game knowing nothing, not even a single commercial, so it kind of made what could have been an amazing battle into a quick decision "Who do I betray?" And then it turns out, since nobody survived from the sides I betrayed, everyone still loved me.

I won't complain about how my companions controlled how I played, because making them hate me was something I disliked, or how one of my settlements was being raped every thirty RL minutes even though I jacked up the def on each one, but the lack of control really made me feel like I wasn't playing a fallout game. All in all though, modding community will bring me back. I just hope the story mods will be cool even though the protagonist has a voice now, so I expect a lot of the same lines from the vanilla game being re used.

You are not alone. They dumbed it down SOOOOO much. A lot of the factions didn't have any charm to them.

I just feel fallout 4 is a fraction of an image of what it once was.

people said the same about fallout 3/NV after falling in love with 1 and 2, embrace the change

Why should anyone embrace the continued casualization that Bethesda pushes? All it does is make the quality of the game worse and lowers the amount of time you can invest in the game. I put nearly 300 hours into the base game of New Vegas because there was so much to do, I'm at 80 hours in 4 and I just can't find anything else to bide my time with.

The thing is though, fallout 3 although bitched about when it first came out due to it being so different in perspective and shit, was what it was advertised to be. Don't get me wrong, I agree people do complain like bitches, always. It's like when a band releases a new album....However.

Fallout 4 didn't feel like an RPG for me, you weren't making your role, you were given one role. You are a man who started off in the old world, who was a veteran, a father, and had a loving wife, his goal is to get his son back, a noble goal. We would all do the same in his shoes, I know I would, and he is a good man for that. So basically from the start, it makes you a good guy, or at least a neutral good (If that is what you call it, correct me if I'm wrong.). You never really have the choice to be a bad guy, sure you might be a man willing to do anything to save his son, but you are never truly pushed to a point where you question if you are the good guy. Where you have to accept that you have to become a monster to save your son, or stick to your old world principles and push on, making it harder for yourself to do so.

All in all, it's a great game, good enough graphics for me, great world, huge, lots of hidden areas, but it lacked the witty fallout charm that I was hoping bethesda learnt from obsidian. Which is my fault. However, I disliked the voiced PC and how dialogue was so, fake choice like. You could be a dick, sarcastic, or goody two shoes and they basically always said the same thing after one line of unique dialogue. I also disliked the new skill system, and how it didn't create dialogue options. The game is a diamond and I love it, but that being said it is a clouded one. This is just one Jon's opinion, I rarely share my opinions on fj due to how hate bandwagons start. If you disagree, I accept that, but don't ass rape the red thumb just because my opinion is different and poorly worded I assume. I just got back from work and haven't slept in two days.

Not all RPGs have non-linear storylines. I think you meant that it wasn't as big of a sandbox as the previous titles.

You have a point, however I personally think the purest form of the rpg is one where you can choose your path, at the very least a basic Good, Neutral, Evil, path. Where choices matter.

I might be wrong, but I felt as though it was like my choices mattered little, hell during my first play through during the great amazing battle, nobody attacked me, they all just ignored me, because I was playing all the sides. I hadn't realized I had to choose one yet, I went into the game knowing nothing, not even a single commercial, so it kind of made what could have been an amazing battle into a quick decision "Who do I betray?" And then it turns out, since nobody survived from the sides I betrayed, everyone still loved me.

I won't complain about how my companions controlled how I played, because making them hate me was something I disliked, or how one of my settlements was being raped every thirty RL minutes even though I jacked up the def on each one, but the lack of control really made me feel like I wasn't playing a fallout game. All in all though, modding community will bring me back. I just hope the story mods will be cool even though the protagonist has a voice now, so I expect a lot of the same lines from the vanilla game being re used.

You are not alone. They dumbed it down SOOOOO much. A lot of the factions didn't have any charm to them.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that your favorite game is either in the Souls series or a MOBA.

My favorite game of all time is Dark Souls 1, but I love Fallout 4.

Even though he already said his favorite game, I knew before even looking it was FNV.

FNV fans are cancerous twots who hate on every other Fallout.

Personally I just hate fallout 4 because its not good. I didn't say it sucks, or even that its bad, its just not good.

Definately not, favorite game of all time is fallout: new vegas

I just feel fallout 4 is a fraction of an image of what it once was.

people said the same about fallout 3/NV after falling in love with 1 and 2, embrace the change

Why should anyone embrace the continued casualization that Bethesda pushes? All it does is make the quality of the game worse and lowers the amount of time you can invest in the game. I put nearly 300 hours into the base game of New Vegas because there was so much to do, I'm at 80 hours in 4 and I just can't find anything else to bide my time with.

The thing is though, fallout 3 although bitched about when it first came out due to it being so different in perspective and shit, was what it was advertised to be. Don't get me wrong, I agree people do complain like bitches, always. It's like when a band releases a new album....However.

Fallout 4 didn't feel like an RPG for me, you weren't making your role, you were given one role. You are a man who started off in the old world, who was a veteran, a father, and had a loving wife, his goal is to get his son back, a noble goal. We would all do the same in his shoes, I know I would, and he is a good man for that. So basically from the start, it makes you a good guy, or at least a neutral good (If that is what you call it, correct me if I'm wrong.). You never really have the choice to be a bad guy, sure you might be a man willing to do anything to save his son, but you are never truly pushed to a point where you question if you are the good guy. Where you have to accept that you have to become a monster to save your son, or stick to your old world principles and push on, making it harder for yourself to do so.

All in all, it's a great game, good enough graphics for me, great world, huge, lots of hidden areas, but it lacked the witty fallout charm that I was hoping bethesda learnt from obsidian. Which is my fault. However, I disliked the voiced PC and how dialogue was so, fake choice like. You could be a dick, sarcastic, or goody two shoes and they basically always said the same thing after one line of unique dialogue. I also disliked the new skill system, and how it didn't create dialogue options. The game is a diamond and I love it, but that being said it is a clouded one. This is just one Jon's opinion, I rarely share my opinions on fj due to how hate bandwagons start. If you disagree, I accept that, but don't ass rape the red thumb just because my opinion is different and poorly worded I assume. I just got back from work and haven't slept in two days.

Not all RPGs have non-linear storylines. I think you meant that it wasn't as big of a sandbox as the previous titles.

You have a point, however I personally think the purest form of the rpg is one where you can choose your path, at the very least a basic Good, Neutral, Evil, path. Where choices matter.

I might be wrong, but I felt as though it was like my choices mattered little, hell during my first play through during the great amazing battle, nobody attacked me, they all just ignored me, because I was playing all the sides. I hadn't realized I had to choose one yet, I went into the game knowing nothing, not even a single commercial, so it kind of made what could have been an amazing battle into a quick decision "Who do I betray?" And then it turns out, since nobody survived from the sides I betrayed, everyone still loved me.

I won't complain about how my companions controlled how I played, because making them hate me was something I disliked, or how one of my settlements was being raped every thirty RL minutes even though I jacked up the def on each one, but the lack of control really made me feel like I wasn't playing a fallout game. All in all though, modding community will bring me back. I just hope the story mods will be cool even though the protagonist has a voice now, so I expect a lot of the same lines from the vanilla game being re used.

You are not alone. They dumbed it down SOOOOO much. A lot of the factions didn't have any charm to them.

uhh... unless you can show me otherwise:

rooty-tooty sounds pretty much like "rootin' tootin'", a common phrase used in old wild west times and commonly associated with cowboys and of course, Texas. Although real actual cowboys will more likely be found in places like Arkansas and Montana, there are still many cowboys there. And of course you have the sports team the Dallas Cowboys, and the 5-gallon cowboy hat we invented there I believe.

Anywhoo, Texas is internationally renowned for its cowboyish love of guns. Hell, the Family Guy joke "here's your bottle of Jack Daniels, and your comlementary gun". "What is this? A promotion?" "Nope, Texas state law: buy a bottle of whiskey, get a free gun"

So yeah, "point and shooty" sounds like a gun to me, and the "rootin tootin" part sounds like the primal scream of the cowboy. So.... sounds like the British way of saying "someone from Texas" or "an average outing in Texas".

Oh shit nigger then you better make like a banana peel and get the fuck out of there.

It's to late! It's TO LATE! The king is dead, he's already fornicating with the queen while strangling the jester!


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