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#368 - I dont think your grasping the point. There is no argument ...…  [+] (1 new reply) 12/03/2014 on Tumblr tard +1
User avatar #370 - infinitereaper (12/03/2014) [-]
Your sex and gender categories make sense, however the gender categories are still a little contrived, I've mentioned the science behind behavior, and how that's tied to psychology. What gets me however is the fact that few seem to acknowledge the scientific, hell the biological reasons men and women have certain expectations. Like men (hunters) and women (caregivers) but if you look at it from the perspective of evolutionary biology it all makes much more sense. Like I said, my gripe with the concept of gender is that it's plastic and much less of an actual science than it is about human behavior. For sake of clarity I simply state things how they are.

This whole issue of identity is what I find so unscientific. This idea of Ethnicity instead of simple of cultural heritage is what I find preposterous. While I understand where this comes from, I have my own criticism, perhaps my viewpoints stem from that.

Perhaps what bothers me most is that there is no middle ground, like normative and nominative economics, I believe that there is a middle ground that takes the best of both into a superior science. I probably feel the same way about gender and sex.

Meaning I can only agree with you half the time, and the other half have problems with those statements and ideas. I find the science far superior however, and I believe lots of people misuse the concept of "gender", or forget entirely that gender is the concept, not sex. I don't believe gender is a social construct, I believe it's a psychological construct that people try to make a social one, one that may or may not have basis in reality depending on person(s).

Which is why I call it a word game. Get lost in the definitions and the "sciences" to much and you won't truly understand humanity. Truth is derived from breaking free from human illusions and acknowledging them for what they are.

Much in the same way you are trying to explain, technically correct and correct aren't the same things either
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#360 - This just shows that you haven't through about the nuances. …  [+] (3 new replies) 12/03/2014 on Tumblr tard +1
#367 - infinitereaper (12/03/2014) [-]
1) Male. Go by chromosomes, not biochemistry. Anything else means your biochemistry isn't function properly. This is a defect, not a claim to "sex".
2) You are both, though usually it leans one way or the other. At this point a person can be either or. They have that right.
3)Identity is an issue of psychology, not an issue of sociology. Making it one is when this becomes nonsense.
4) There are scientific differences and reasons males and females have different expectations. Example; estrogen and behavior, testosterone and behavior, women have thinner skin so are more sensitive to touch and violence because of concentrated nerve endings, females are generally physically weaker but have a higher tolerance for pain. Different centers of gravity, etc. All of these play a role from a sociological perspective.

Listen I'm all about the science. I think the problem is that you aren't as about it as you think you are. I don't care for nuances or making people feel good or justifying anything. There are answers to everything, and while people may not like them that doesn't mean they can corrupt perception just to make themselves feel better. It's a fallacy. Sex isn't a construct,

the only construct here is this idea of gender identity, an as I've stated time and time again; it's illogical
#368 - bobbysnobby (12/03/2014) [-]
I dont think your grasping the point. There is no argument ...well maybe a little, but by in large no argument about definitions of sex.

Ill say it one time as clearly as I can. To scientists who study people Identity matters. That is the reason studies often look at Race and Ethnicity. They are not the same. Sex and gender when your talking to mom and dad or your friends is not important. To scientists the distinction is important.

For example if you have like my siblings Native American Heritage through their father they are more prone to diabetes than I am. That's a health concern related to Race. Ethnically Mexican families in New Mexico are prone to obesity and heart related heath problems due to dietary practices. This is a problem from Ethnic dietary practices not from differential race genetics.

"Identity is an issue of psychology, not an issue of sociology" This is a very strange claim im not sure how its an "Issue" and anthropologists dont speak about it as an issue. Society creates roles for genders they are not some absolute, we know this because different cultures have different gender roles than we do.

The easy way to explain it is this.
You are a boy, you are a girl, you are both, you are neither. These are Sex categories.
This is masculine, this is feminine, this is neither, this is both. Those are Gender Categories.

An example of it in practice. Women on the average, across the world do more housework then men. This is a characteristic of gender, not of sex.
User avatar #370 - infinitereaper (12/03/2014) [-]
Your sex and gender categories make sense, however the gender categories are still a little contrived, I've mentioned the science behind behavior, and how that's tied to psychology. What gets me however is the fact that few seem to acknowledge the scientific, hell the biological reasons men and women have certain expectations. Like men (hunters) and women (caregivers) but if you look at it from the perspective of evolutionary biology it all makes much more sense. Like I said, my gripe with the concept of gender is that it's plastic and much less of an actual science than it is about human behavior. For sake of clarity I simply state things how they are.

This whole issue of identity is what I find so unscientific. This idea of Ethnicity instead of simple of cultural heritage is what I find preposterous. While I understand where this comes from, I have my own criticism, perhaps my viewpoints stem from that.

Perhaps what bothers me most is that there is no middle ground, like normative and nominative economics, I believe that there is a middle ground that takes the best of both into a superior science. I probably feel the same way about gender and sex.

Meaning I can only agree with you half the time, and the other half have problems with those statements and ideas. I find the science far superior however, and I believe lots of people misuse the concept of "gender", or forget entirely that gender is the concept, not sex. I don't believe gender is a social construct, I believe it's a psychological construct that people try to make a social one, one that may or may not have basis in reality depending on person(s).

Which is why I call it a word game. Get lost in the definitions and the "sciences" to much and you won't truly understand humanity. Truth is derived from breaking free from human illusions and acknowledging them for what they are.

Much in the same way you are trying to explain, technically correct and correct aren't the same things either
#311 - The arguments in summery are that for the scientific literatur… 12/03/2014 on Tumblr tard +4
#306 - I study biological anthropology and I can tell you thats about…  [+] (5 new replies) 12/03/2014 on Tumblr tard +2
User avatar #356 - infinitereaper (12/03/2014) [-]
The only thing dumb here is the retarded delusional use of "identify". As a man of science I believe your so called "gender" as per this argument, should be called what it actually is. Confusion, delusion, and a mental disorder. You are what you are. It doesn't matter what you think you are. It doesn't matter what you identify as.

A cup of orange juice is a cup of orange juice, no matter how much it wants to be it will never be a cup of tomato juice. This entire issue is so fucking retarded. Gender shouldn't even be used at all then if it's that fucking stupid.
#360 - bobbysnobby (12/03/2014) [-]
This just shows that you haven't through about the nuances.
For example lets say your born as a boy. But you have the biochemistry of a girl. What are you? This has nothing to do with identity or how we "feel". They have a penis but none of the hormones or hormonal production of a male. They can even have biochemical clocks like they are going through period cycles. If we conclude that all that is important is that they were born with a penis, ok lets carry that to its logical place.

What if your born with both male and female reproductive organs. Now do we consider biochemistry? Do we say they are sexless? Do we say they are both?

The concept of Identity is an important one for study because it impacts peoples choices and the structure of their values which are important when looking at people and group decision making. For example there are cultures were gender roles are reversed. Males wear makeup and go to great lengths for physical beauty and women do not. And many other examples we dont need to go into.

Gender is a short hand for societies expectations for a sex and for the individuals sense of place in a community. The reason it comes up is there are many people who dont really belong to either sex and that creates massive problem in gender identity.

The way SJWs abuse the notion of "The typical is wrong we embrace the Atypical no matter how infrequent, and you being insensitive about .00001% of the population makes you a monster XYZ" Obviously its an abuse of this fact, but its not because the science is wrong. Its the application of a judgement, a set of values on the science.

They are wrong a lot of the time, and the way they try to make themselves heard makes us all flinch and want to make them shut their fucking stupid mouths. But arguing over the use of the Terms Sex and Gender when they have codified definitions in the scientific literature is just as pointless.
#367 - infinitereaper (12/03/2014) [-]
1) Male. Go by chromosomes, not biochemistry. Anything else means your biochemistry isn't function properly. This is a defect, not a claim to "sex".
2) You are both, though usually it leans one way or the other. At this point a person can be either or. They have that right.
3)Identity is an issue of psychology, not an issue of sociology. Making it one is when this becomes nonsense.
4) There are scientific differences and reasons males and females have different expectations. Example; estrogen and behavior, testosterone and behavior, women have thinner skin so are more sensitive to touch and violence because of concentrated nerve endings, females are generally physically weaker but have a higher tolerance for pain. Different centers of gravity, etc. All of these play a role from a sociological perspective.

Listen I'm all about the science. I think the problem is that you aren't as about it as you think you are. I don't care for nuances or making people feel good or justifying anything. There are answers to everything, and while people may not like them that doesn't mean they can corrupt perception just to make themselves feel better. It's a fallacy. Sex isn't a construct,

the only construct here is this idea of gender identity, an as I've stated time and time again; it's illogical
#368 - bobbysnobby (12/03/2014) [-]
I dont think your grasping the point. There is no argument ...well maybe a little, but by in large no argument about definitions of sex.

Ill say it one time as clearly as I can. To scientists who study people Identity matters. That is the reason studies often look at Race and Ethnicity. They are not the same. Sex and gender when your talking to mom and dad or your friends is not important. To scientists the distinction is important.

For example if you have like my siblings Native American Heritage through their father they are more prone to diabetes than I am. That's a health concern related to Race. Ethnically Mexican families in New Mexico are prone to obesity and heart related heath problems due to dietary practices. This is a problem from Ethnic dietary practices not from differential race genetics.

"Identity is an issue of psychology, not an issue of sociology" This is a very strange claim im not sure how its an "Issue" and anthropologists dont speak about it as an issue. Society creates roles for genders they are not some absolute, we know this because different cultures have different gender roles than we do.

The easy way to explain it is this.
You are a boy, you are a girl, you are both, you are neither. These are Sex categories.
This is masculine, this is feminine, this is neither, this is both. Those are Gender Categories.

An example of it in practice. Women on the average, across the world do more housework then men. This is a characteristic of gender, not of sex.
User avatar #370 - infinitereaper (12/03/2014) [-]
Your sex and gender categories make sense, however the gender categories are still a little contrived, I've mentioned the science behind behavior, and how that's tied to psychology. What gets me however is the fact that few seem to acknowledge the scientific, hell the biological reasons men and women have certain expectations. Like men (hunters) and women (caregivers) but if you look at it from the perspective of evolutionary biology it all makes much more sense. Like I said, my gripe with the concept of gender is that it's plastic and much less of an actual science than it is about human behavior. For sake of clarity I simply state things how they are.

This whole issue of identity is what I find so unscientific. This idea of Ethnicity instead of simple of cultural heritage is what I find preposterous. While I understand where this comes from, I have my own criticism, perhaps my viewpoints stem from that.

Perhaps what bothers me most is that there is no middle ground, like normative and nominative economics, I believe that there is a middle ground that takes the best of both into a superior science. I probably feel the same way about gender and sex.

Meaning I can only agree with you half the time, and the other half have problems with those statements and ideas. I find the science far superior however, and I believe lots of people misuse the concept of "gender", or forget entirely that gender is the concept, not sex. I don't believe gender is a social construct, I believe it's a psychological construct that people try to make a social one, one that may or may not have basis in reality depending on person(s).

Which is why I call it a word game. Get lost in the definitions and the "sciences" to much and you won't truly understand humanity. Truth is derived from breaking free from human illusions and acknowledging them for what they are.

Much in the same way you are trying to explain, technically correct and correct aren't the same things either
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User avatar #13 - sphincterface (12/02/2014) [-]
There was also Rule 34 of Splatoon within minutes of the game being announced...now that is impressive.
#8 - digitalmasterx (12/02/2014) [-]
thats the catch, you get more attention that way. its very common for nsfw artists
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User avatar #15 - krazy_kid286 (11/28/2014) [-]
And you have successfully described what a rave party is.
#22 - bobbysnobby (11/28/2014) [-]
That was what I was referencing yes.
#136 - It reads like you think this is new. This argument has literal…  [+] (1 new reply) 11/28/2014 on Girl escapes from North Korea -5
#138 - neverposting (11/28/2014) [-]
At no point did I say the question was complex, or act like I was some new age philosopher, I simply said how I feel future generations might think of us in say 70 years time, you apparently just took it upon yourself to be a cunt about it.
#133 - You haven't learned much about modern history have you? Ba…  [+] (3 new replies) 11/28/2014 on Girl escapes from North Korea +21
#134 - neverposting (11/28/2014) [-]
Use one famous example of a genocide to show how I feel fututre generations may look at the mistakes of ours. "hurr durr you don't learn the history do you?". Fuck off somewhere else and go count the fedoras in your collection, you condescending cuntwagon.
#136 - bobbysnobby (11/28/2014) [-]
It reads like you think this is new. This argument has literally come up every single time for the past 70 years.

Let me rub my fuzzy pink fedora as I get more condescending.
MMM im neverposting and in my first highschool history lesson we talked about this brand new topic called the Holocaust. I have spent a whole 30 mins of my life being lectured on this topic and I feel I have come to some interesting conclusions to how it relates to these modern situations.

I will now make the most placid, boring, monotone statement about this topic that is humanly possible. I would not dare challenge our conventions or try to look at this topic in anything that could be miss interpreted as a new idea.

I will tell you what we will say to future generations. "We much like those who came before us deal with the problems we are faced with. Rather than trying to make the world a better place for everyone would rather make it better for us. Why is it that you are judging us for our practices as currently there is _____ genocide currently going on that you are doing nothing about." Previous generations would say that to us and we have no good answer, so its reasonable to assume in the future it will be exactly the same.

I'm glad I could answer this very complex question for you.
#138 - neverposting (11/28/2014) [-]
At no point did I say the question was complex, or act like I was some new age philosopher, I simply said how I feel future generations might think of us in say 70 years time, you apparently just took it upon yourself to be a cunt about it.
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User avatar #13 - iamthetoaster (11/24/2014) [-]
at least he doesn't kiss any girls, imagine how gross that would be!
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User avatar #62 - ljxjlos (11/23/2014) [-]
It´s pretty much becoming Tony Stark, so there´s that.
User avatar #138 - lahel (11/23/2014) [-]
not if you are a fatass neckbeard.

so theres THAT
User avatar #140 - ljxjlos (11/23/2014) [-]
Well, I´ve got the face of a model on the body of a young god so I don´t have that problem.

Seriously, tho, with that kind of mind, you´d be rich, famous and beautiful in no time - I mean, c´mon.
Escapism would be better, tho, if you could create your own world - or evolution, but the partner here would be a serious problem.
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