you mean, 20 levels.

And this sequester was a doomsday option for a reason, that it ended happening is to be lamented. We have a bloated military budget, something few people I have seen disagree with. We spend more than the next few countries on the list combined, and that is unacceptable. But we have a political party in control of the house that scarcely stands to talk about it. Who by the way also at times have had no trouble blocking veteran aid, and that 9/11 first responders bill that Jon Stewart almost single handedly forced down congress. We have gotten to a point where comedians do more almost good for politics than our own elected officials. I wouldn't belittle the civil rights movement, but I certainly don't do that when I call for its spirit when pressing these issues. Discrimination was a virus, but so is this war, so are the faulty and corrupt practices of government. Human lives with all that entails are affected, partly because the people are too apathetic. I could ask the next five people I see something about them and they would deny any interest in politics. Well that is not something that Martin Luther King stood for, nor many other virtuous heroes hailed across the political aisle. "The time is always right to do what is right" did not just count for what MLK was actively fighting against at the time. It is a mantra for the correct and moral. Change takes everyone who is great acting and leading by example, by voting and advocacy. But protests are instrumental in that goal. And while you have a point about the OWS protesters seeming petty and entitled, it does not undercut the significance of things like income inequality. Having a high living standard on average does not duct tape my or anyone else's mouth. Freedom through equality was the theme of the civil rights movement, but it is also the theme for gay marriage and immigration reform. Freedom also is a staple of the anti drug war lobby/protest industry.

I take issue with much of what you replied to me with. Perhaps on a practical scale there has been little in the protest industry that could compare to the civil rights movement, but not because there is a lack of issues as worthy of attention. For one thing I'd like to correct you on this 'war ain't so bad' sentiment. The 'wars' (more like a series of occupations and conflicts) have resulted in the deaths of many men women and children. Most of these deaths in the name of collateral damage. Far too often for any righteously based people to accept. The murder of strangers is not just another issue to be doled out in Washington DC over time. The war having not taken anyone from my family or line of friends, nor resulted in any hostile confrontations on the homeland is an invalid reason not to fervently oppose it. When the fuck did the protest industry need to concern itself with things 'done to' me? We have people dying because the GOP and other uncle tom democrats are thriving off of a military industrial complex that brings bank, through the use of taxdollars. Maybe you don't feel how I do but I get sick when I think about the shit that ultimately a part of my spending and earning in this country has aided. There is no reason for these wars that stands up to scrutiny. How there aren't riots about it does not surprise me but does make me think less of my people. And these bailouts were a symbol of corrupting private-public relations, in a capitalistic market people should not be rewarded for their greedy or unwise economic decisions. The problem being was that not doing it risked a greater suffering. Therefore the conditions that lead to it should be recognized and dealt with so that it will never become another problem. And these austerity measures are in many ways draconian. There is a healthy debate on how to trim fat in the budget and how we allocate funds. But there are entitlements that need to stand, and some that may need to be beefed the fuck up.

Note - by any war it has gone into - I mean post 1970s

The protest industry is concerned with a lot more than just austerity, as bad as austerity is as economic policy. The bailouts, wars, immigration, I mean there is a wide array of shit to be mad about. Many of these things are terrible burdens on certain everyday people, just like segregation was to the minority segment of the population.

Nothing the protest industry is doing is as big as the civil rights movements. You know why? Because race segregation was a far bigger deal than any cuts the government has made, or any war it has gone into.
Think about it - how much have these austerity measures, bailouts and wars really done to you? You can still walk into any shop and not be discriminated against for being a particular race, which you might not necessarily have been able to if it wasn't for the civil rights movement.

My point here is that the civil rights movement wasn't some petty bunch of protesters that were essentially complaining about money (Despite still having one of the best standards of living in the world), it was about freedom through equality.

And this sequester was a doomsday option for a reason, that it ended happening is to be lamented. We have a bloated military budget, something few people I have seen disagree with. We spend more than the next few countries on the list combined, and that is unacceptable. But we have a political party in control of the house that scarcely stands to talk about it. Who by the way also at times have had no trouble blocking veteran aid, and that 9/11 first responders bill that Jon Stewart almost single handedly forced down congress. We have gotten to a point where comedians do more almost good for politics than our own elected officials. I wouldn't belittle the civil rights movement, but I certainly don't do that when I call for its spirit when pressing these issues. Discrimination was a virus, but so is this war, so are the faulty and corrupt practices of government. Human lives with all that entails are affected, partly because the people are too apathetic. I could ask the next five people I see something about them and they would deny any interest in politics. Well that is not something that Martin Luther King stood for, nor many other virtuous heroes hailed across the political aisle. "The time is always right to do what is right" did not just count for what MLK was actively fighting against at the time. It is a mantra for the correct and moral. Change takes everyone who is great acting and leading by example, by voting and advocacy. But protests are instrumental in that goal. And while you have a point about the OWS protesters seeming petty and entitled, it does not undercut the significance of things like income inequality. Having a high living standard on average does not duct tape my or anyone else's mouth. Freedom through equality was the theme of the civil rights movement, but it is also the theme for gay marriage and immigration reform. Freedom also is a staple of the anti drug war lobby/protest industry.

I take issue with much of what you replied to me with. Perhaps on a practical scale there has been little in the protest industry that could compare to the civil rights movement, but not because there is a lack of issues as worthy of attention. For one thing I'd like to correct you on this 'war ain't so bad' sentiment. The 'wars' (more like a series of occupations and conflicts) have resulted in the deaths of many men women and children. Most of these deaths in the name of collateral damage. Far too often for any righteously based people to accept. The murder of strangers is not just another issue to be doled out in Washington DC over time. The war having not taken anyone from my family or line of friends, nor resulted in any hostile confrontations on the homeland is an invalid reason not to fervently oppose it. When the fuck did the protest industry need to concern itself with things 'done to' me? We have people dying because the GOP and other uncle tom democrats are thriving off of a military industrial complex that brings bank, through the use of taxdollars. Maybe you don't feel how I do but I get sick when I think about the shit that ultimately a part of my spending and earning in this country has aided. There is no reason for these wars that stands up to scrutiny. How there aren't riots about it does not surprise me but does make me think less of my people. And these bailouts were a symbol of corrupting private-public relations, in a capitalistic market people should not be rewarded for their greedy or unwise economic decisions. The problem being was that not doing it risked a greater suffering. Therefore the conditions that lead to it should be recognized and dealt with so that it will never become another problem. And these austerity measures are in many ways draconian. There is a healthy debate on how to trim fat in the budget and how we allocate funds. But there are entitlements that need to stand, and some that may need to be beefed the fuck up.

Note - by any war it has gone into - I mean post 1970s

It really does.

its okay ur not the first person to not understand at first...

i cant help my inhuman need to state the obvious when the obvious pisses me off

Oh.. if it's a condition you have, now I just feel bad for pointing you out on it :s

its okay ur not the first person to not understand at first...