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| #19 - *says | 04/21/2012 on Emo Lama | -3 |
| #46 - Did OP use a Chinese to English translator to make this? [+] (3 new replies) | 04/21/2012 on Curling | +1 |
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| #303 - Another one of these "Justin Bieber is shit" posts? … | 04/21/2012 on Fuck you believer!! | +13 |
| #1055 - 1) I'm not saying that there are no horny women, but I am sayi… | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
| #1052 - 1) At no point in history have I ever come across men being le… [+] (2 new replies) | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Why the hell should it be up to me? Just because you don't know horny women doesn't mean they don't exist. Some of my closest female friends are, no word of a lie, complete nymphomaniacs. Because those are the kind of women in my life, by your logic, you should prove to me otherwise. 2) I'm not saying society should accommodate only the outsider, I'm saying it should accommodate everyone. You're arguing so hard for the majority that the minority is getting right fucked. If they're both equal offenses, no one has any excuse. 3) That's an American statistic. 17% is also roughly the same number of men actually making more than women in the ENTIRE developed world. I'm afraid I don't have a link for that, as I learned it in school and not on the internet, but I think that the title of 'developed country' alone should imply that it is plausible for most women to have similar incomes. You also have to factor in how much of that is coincidence (ie, women dropping out of school or choosing lower paying jobs). 4) Yes, actually, they are. It's an awful situation for them, but they can't use it as absolute binding proof of the patriarchy as so many of them try to. And... yes. It is inequal. That's why I'm arguing it should be equal. Did I miss something?  #1055
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) I'm not saying that there are no horny women, but I am saying that there are a lot more horny men than horny women. 2) Well straight away what I'm saying is that I'm basing my opinion on the majority because they so far outweigh the minority case. Therefore in most situations I'm more right than you. 3) Not an American statistic, if you look at the graph you'll see it's an average spread over many western world countries. Admittedly one big cause of the men's average wage being higher could be because women get pregnant and decide to give up their professional career. However, it could also be the case that women are simply shunned out of higher positions. As an example, there hasn't been a female president, and only one British female prime minister. I'm just not sure that child rearing / starting a family would account for that many males in high places, so to speak. It's most likely a mixture of the 2 factors I'll admit, but that still means inequality on some level. 4)Well talking about patriarchy, how many women are there as CEOs of companies or leaders of nations? I just really don't think that child rearing could account for such a high percentage loss of females in the workforce. On a happy note, I think we're on the same page with the child jurisdiction, just most likely both partially tired (And so both finding it hard to get across a point lol) | ||
| #1050 - 1) Sum up the times through history when males are more sexual… [+] (4 new replies) | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Unless you were their for all of history, you won't get a very accurate number. It happens ALL the time, in literally every culture in recorded history (at least once). The reason you can even come as close as you can to counting the times for guys, and why it may seem like a higher number, is because it's never been accepted as the norm for guys. We as a people only remember things when we make a big deal out of them. 2) I didn't say it wasn't more common, it's just not rare enough to be considered unusual. The fact that a woman CAB be stronger than a man is reason enough to treat the two offenses as identical. 3) Okay, you don't get it. It has NOTHING to do with 17% of their total income. It just means that 83% of women in developed countries DO proportionately make as much as men. 4) I'll give you that they're expected to look a certain way, but that alone doesn't make up for how much they get. As I just said, they don't often get lower wages. It's a common misconception that they do because A. It used to happen and B. It still does in semi-rare cases, and feminists blow this out of proportion (the injustice committed by the people underpaying these women is not the fault of every man). As for that baby thing, that's not a societal thing. Every individual couple gets to decide how much who sees the kids. If you were a father, you wouldn't just assume your wife will do all the work because that's how everyone else does it. The main flaw with your argument is that you expect every man to have to pay for the actions of any man. #1052
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) At no point in history have I ever come across men being less horny than women. I think it's up to you to provide evidence of such an event, not for me to find it (Since, I could tell you right off the bat that there are more female prostitutes, and have been for hundreds of years, pornography is in much more abundance for males rather than females, rape is committed more by males than females, etc, etc) 2) Why you are basing your opinion on society as a whole on the outside outcome? By which I mean, why are you trying to explain how society behaves by picking the outsider? And trust me, it is a rarity to find a female that is stronger than a male. I'd maybe say the outside 10% of female and male strengths overlap. 3) You have your fact wrong here. The correct way to think about it is that females have on average a 17% lower pay check, not that 17% of females are underpaid, see this wiki article for reference; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap#OECD Here, and I quote "women still have 20% less chance to have a job than men, on average, and they are paid 17% less than their male counterparts." 4) Feminists are not blowing the pay gap out of proportion. The investigation above was made by the OECD, who are an internal economic organisation made to stimulate recovery after WWII. You may think "Women work less due to pregnancy / child rearing" but it's not. The 17% average gap in pay is based on hourly rates, which go outside how often a gender works. And you've misunderstood my point on child jurisdiction. I'm saying that this typically is a case of sexism against males, because fathers often have to pay unfair amounts to the mothers whilst she gets preference over when to see her kid (As opposed to the father getting an equal say.). I agree that in principle child jurisdiction is supposed to be equal, but in reality, it's not. #1054
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Why the hell should it be up to me? Just because you don't know horny women doesn't mean they don't exist. Some of my closest female friends are, no word of a lie, complete nymphomaniacs. Because those are the kind of women in my life, by your logic, you should prove to me otherwise. 2) I'm not saying society should accommodate only the outsider, I'm saying it should accommodate everyone. You're arguing so hard for the majority that the minority is getting right fucked. If they're both equal offenses, no one has any excuse. 3) That's an American statistic. 17% is also roughly the same number of men actually making more than women in the ENTIRE developed world. I'm afraid I don't have a link for that, as I learned it in school and not on the internet, but I think that the title of 'developed country' alone should imply that it is plausible for most women to have similar incomes. You also have to factor in how much of that is coincidence (ie, women dropping out of school or choosing lower paying jobs). 4) Yes, actually, they are. It's an awful situation for them, but they can't use it as absolute binding proof of the patriarchy as so many of them try to. And... yes. It is inequal. That's why I'm arguing it should be equal. Did I miss something? #1055
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) I'm not saying that there are no horny women, but I am saying that there are a lot more horny men than horny women. 2) Well straight away what I'm saying is that I'm basing my opinion on the majority because they so far outweigh the minority case. Therefore in most situations I'm more right than you. 3) Not an American statistic, if you look at the graph you'll see it's an average spread over many western world countries. Admittedly one big cause of the men's average wage being higher could be because women get pregnant and decide to give up their professional career. However, it could also be the case that women are simply shunned out of higher positions. As an example, there hasn't been a female president, and only one British female prime minister. I'm just not sure that child rearing / starting a family would account for that many males in high places, so to speak. It's most likely a mixture of the 2 factors I'll admit, but that still means inequality on some level. 4)Well talking about patriarchy, how many women are there as CEOs of companies or leaders of nations? I just really don't think that child rearing could account for such a high percentage loss of females in the workforce. On a happy note, I think we're on the same page with the child jurisdiction, just most likely both partially tired (And so both finding it hard to get across a point lol) | ||
| #935 - So a woman should pay once every 3 to 5 dates | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
| #934 - So a woman should pay once somewhere between every 3 to 6 date… | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | 0 |
| #933 - Of course, you could argue that you should view their leftover… | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
| #930 - Fine, so that means then the man should pay for 4 dates out of… | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
| #925 - A shocking statistic, but a fair point. | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +2 |
| #923 - Even if we're growing up in a society where men want more sex … [+] (5 new replies) | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
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snowboardingengie (04/17/2012) [-] for the money part if you read my post correctly I said that the bill should be split fairly, therefore if the man actually has 78% more money then he should pay for 78% of the bills, not all. #933
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Of course, you could argue that you should view their leftover wages as ratios, meaning the woman would pay for roughly one out of every 3 dates.. It would depend on how much they happen to spend on average at their leisure #930
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Fine, so that means then the man should pay for 4 dates out of 5, providing they roughly cost the same amount. That seems fair enough. Of course, with housewives, they shouldn't be made to pay anything. Their business is typically in child bearing. | ||
| #888 - *sexist towards men, even | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +2 |
| #882 - I think violence from either of the sexes is wrong. Now, the d… [+] (3 new replies) | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
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N. Korean citizen (04/17/2012) [-] Sorry, didn't cite that one correctly, it's from the Current DHHS report on nationwide Child Abuse. For some reason I can't find the exact report, but you can find numerous second hand references to it around the web like here: achildsright [.typepad.] com/achildsright/research.html However, in this governmental report: acf [.hhs.] gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm09/cm09.pdf#page=81 It still states that 37% of abuse is by the mother, with around 18% by the father alone. Looking back these do seem more realistic. As for violence, your still saying it like every man is strong and a capable fighter, I know personally the last time I hit a person was in High school. There shouldn't be a need for restraining, if anyone hits anyone else, they should be prepared to be hit back; it's like saying that Women are naturally better at looking after a young child (before the male influence becomes essential like above), so the father shouldn't come into contact with their child. Extreme example yes, but the point is similar, natural superiority should not be counted after the first strike. | ||
| #762 - Nothing to do with that, I'm not talking about pregnancy leave… | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +2 |
| #743 - *than men | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | -1 |
| #740 - If men aren't any hornier than women, explain why the majority… | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +3 |
| #737 - It was unnecessarily blunt, I agree :P | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +3 |
| #736 - 1) Yes, we are. 2) I agree, but in the majority of cases w… [+] (7 new replies) | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +1 |
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) No. Males have, historically, been less sexually repressed. The only difference is that society caters to us, and, because of popular representation in the media, women are taught to refrain. 2) It doesn't have to be "unusual". Women take care of themselves much more than men. It wouldn't be hard for them to "catch up". 3) What I said was that women only have lower pay checks around 17% of the time. And when they do, it usually varies between 10 and 35%. Sorry if you misunderstood. 4) This isn't about serious crimes, t's about everyday society. It really boils down to why should a woman who's not a murderer get preferential treatment to you, who I'm also willing to assume isn't a murderer? #1050
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Sum up the times through history when males are more sexually repressed. Sum up the times through history when females have been sexually repressed. Who wins? 2) Point I was making is that on average, we're stronger, so we can overpower females with strength (Which personally I find to be unjustifiable, unless they're trying to assault you) and it makes sense for us to lift heavy loads that they have trouble carrying. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty#Male_musculature_and_body_shape Quote "The average adult male has about 150% of the lean body mass of an average female, and about 50% of the body fat." Obviously, as I said before, not every male is stronger than every female, but I think you'll find strength is vastly skewed towards males. And yes, it is unusual, because it isn't the usual thing for a female to be stronger than a male. 3) The point I was elaborating is that although 17% of total income may sound small, after living costs, it inflates upwards into the amount expendable on leisure activities (Hence why men should pay leisure costs (such as dates) more than women (But not always)). Refer to my comment #923 for an example. 4) She shouldn't get preferential treatment, and as far as I know, she doesn't. And while you seem to be pointing out that women get preferential treatment in society, you're neglecting the fire they come under from society, such as looking a certain way, getting lower wages, etc. What everyday preferential treatment does a woman get over a man (I'm willing to allow the case of child jurisdiction, since women do seem to have an unfair share of seeing their children compared to the father)? #1051
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Unless you were their for all of history, you won't get a very accurate number. It happens ALL the time, in literally every culture in recorded history (at least once). The reason you can even come as close as you can to counting the times for guys, and why it may seem like a higher number, is because it's never been accepted as the norm for guys. We as a people only remember things when we make a big deal out of them. 2) I didn't say it wasn't more common, it's just not rare enough to be considered unusual. The fact that a woman CAB be stronger than a man is reason enough to treat the two offenses as identical. 3) Okay, you don't get it. It has NOTHING to do with 17% of their total income. It just means that 83% of women in developed countries DO proportionately make as much as men. 4) I'll give you that they're expected to look a certain way, but that alone doesn't make up for how much they get. As I just said, they don't often get lower wages. It's a common misconception that they do because A. It used to happen and B. It still does in semi-rare cases, and feminists blow this out of proportion (the injustice committed by the people underpaying these women is not the fault of every man). As for that baby thing, that's not a societal thing. Every individual couple gets to decide how much who sees the kids. If you were a father, you wouldn't just assume your wife will do all the work because that's how everyone else does it. The main flaw with your argument is that you expect every man to have to pay for the actions of any man. #1052
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) At no point in history have I ever come across men being less horny than women. I think it's up to you to provide evidence of such an event, not for me to find it (Since, I could tell you right off the bat that there are more female prostitutes, and have been for hundreds of years, pornography is in much more abundance for males rather than females, rape is committed more by males than females, etc, etc) 2) Why you are basing your opinion on society as a whole on the outside outcome? By which I mean, why are you trying to explain how society behaves by picking the outsider? And trust me, it is a rarity to find a female that is stronger than a male. I'd maybe say the outside 10% of female and male strengths overlap. 3) You have your fact wrong here. The correct way to think about it is that females have on average a 17% lower pay check, not that 17% of females are underpaid, see this wiki article for reference; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap#OECD Here, and I quote "women still have 20% less chance to have a job than men, on average, and they are paid 17% less than their male counterparts." 4) Feminists are not blowing the pay gap out of proportion. The investigation above was made by the OECD, who are an internal economic organisation made to stimulate recovery after WWII. You may think "Women work less due to pregnancy / child rearing" but it's not. The 17% average gap in pay is based on hourly rates, which go outside how often a gender works. And you've misunderstood my point on child jurisdiction. I'm saying that this typically is a case of sexism against males, because fathers often have to pay unfair amounts to the mothers whilst she gets preference over when to see her kid (As opposed to the father getting an equal say.). I agree that in principle child jurisdiction is supposed to be equal, but in reality, it's not. #1054
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Why the hell should it be up to me? Just because you don't know horny women doesn't mean they don't exist. Some of my closest female friends are, no word of a lie, complete nymphomaniacs. Because those are the kind of women in my life, by your logic, you should prove to me otherwise. 2) I'm not saying society should accommodate only the outsider, I'm saying it should accommodate everyone. You're arguing so hard for the majority that the minority is getting right fucked. If they're both equal offenses, no one has any excuse. 3) That's an American statistic. 17% is also roughly the same number of men actually making more than women in the ENTIRE developed world. I'm afraid I don't have a link for that, as I learned it in school and not on the internet, but I think that the title of 'developed country' alone should imply that it is plausible for most women to have similar incomes. You also have to factor in how much of that is coincidence (ie, women dropping out of school or choosing lower paying jobs). 4) Yes, actually, they are. It's an awful situation for them, but they can't use it as absolute binding proof of the patriarchy as so many of them try to. And... yes. It is inequal. That's why I'm arguing it should be equal. Did I miss something? #1055
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) I'm not saying that there are no horny women, but I am saying that there are a lot more horny men than horny women. 2) Well straight away what I'm saying is that I'm basing my opinion on the majority because they so far outweigh the minority case. Therefore in most situations I'm more right than you. 3) Not an American statistic, if you look at the graph you'll see it's an average spread over many western world countries. Admittedly one big cause of the men's average wage being higher could be because women get pregnant and decide to give up their professional career. However, it could also be the case that women are simply shunned out of higher positions. As an example, there hasn't been a female president, and only one British female prime minister. I'm just not sure that child rearing / starting a family would account for that many males in high places, so to speak. It's most likely a mixture of the 2 factors I'll admit, but that still means inequality on some level. 4)Well talking about patriarchy, how many women are there as CEOs of companies or leaders of nations? I just really don't think that child rearing could account for such a high percentage loss of females in the workforce. On a happy note, I think we're on the same page with the child jurisdiction, just most likely both partially tired (And so both finding it hard to get across a point lol) | ||
| #695 - Also I made the comment because it's better than revising for … | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +3 |
| #693 - If you don't give a shit, don't read it. | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +2 |
| #691 - Thank you, good sir. | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +3 |
| #677 - Picture | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +6 |
| #666 - Well let's clear a few of these up (Note I'm a man btw, but th… [+] (40 new replies) | 04/17/2012 on gender equality | +33 |
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snowboardingengie (04/17/2012) [-] actually according to my psychology professor men and women are almost exactly the same when it comes to sexual desires, neither sex is all that more horny than the other. Men may be slightly, and I mean slightly, more but that's it. Any major differences come from society not biology. Also even if women are paid less then they can still help out with the bill. I do hope that eventually people will be paid equally for equal work, but until then just split the bill in a way that is fair to both people. #923
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Even if we're growing up in a society where men want more sex than women, it doesn't make a difference to any point I was making. The fact is then that we grow up in a society where men want more sex, but they're still looked down upon if they can't control their urges in such obvious ways as to suddenly make out with or touch up a woman. If we're talking about fairness, I don't think it would be fair at all for say, a housewife to pay a bill when going with her husband, and even in dating couples we're talking about a percentage much higher than 17% after taking into account the fact that about half the money earned (at least) is typically paid on housing, insurance, taxes and living standards. As an example, let's say a woman is earning $1500 per month, meaning her male co worker would be earning $1755 per month. Now, let's say they pay 15% tax. I'll keep a running total... Male: $1491.75 Female: $1275 After that, comes their housing bills. Let's say they both have 1 bed apartments, costing $750 per month. Male: $741.75 Female: $525 Now, let's add some bills and living expenses, let's say about $250 per month each (If you include car (and, for you Americans), health insurance, food and bills; Male: $491.75 Female: $275 So when you take into account living expenses, in this case, a male would actually have just over 78% more to spend on leisure activities (Such as going to dinner and dating, as well as just meeting up with friends.). #928
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snowboardingengie (04/17/2012) [-] for the money part if you read my post correctly I said that the bill should be split fairly, therefore if the man actually has 78% more money then he should pay for 78% of the bills, not all. #933
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Of course, you could argue that you should view their leftover wages as ratios, meaning the woman would pay for roughly one out of every 3 dates.. It would depend on how much they happen to spend on average at their leisure #930
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Fine, so that means then the man should pay for 4 dates out of 5, providing they roughly cost the same amount. That seems fair enough. Of course, with housewives, they shouldn't be made to pay anything. Their business is typically in child bearing. #849
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N. Korean citizen (04/17/2012) [-] It may be considered wrong if the man doesn't hit back, but if he does, then it's violent abuse regardless if it was self defence. Apart from that, this picture was stupid and out outlined petty social differences. But it's the jurisdictional system where a lot of actual sexism towards men exist. Like how 61% of all child abuse is committed by women, and only 25% by men. Like how 79.6% of custodial mothers receive a support award, and of that 46.9% then default on that. And I know you're going to be saying "But mothers are much more valuable in a childs development than a father", however; Like how that 63% of suicides are from fatherless homes. Like how 85% of all children with behaviour disorders comes from fatherless homes. Like how a massive 85% of youths sitting in prisons hail from a fatherless home. Translating that: 5 times more likely to commit suicide 32 times more likely to run away 20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders 14 times more likely to commit rape 9 times more likely to drop out of school 20 times more likely to end up in prison Source: Technical Analysis Paper No. 42 - U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services - Office of Income Security Policy U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report Sept., 1998 On an interesting side note, according to this New York times Survey ( [url deleted] Women are more attracted to men who are in a stable relationship: "To the men in the experiment, and to the women who were already in relationships, it didn’t make a significant difference whether their match was single or attached. But single women showed a distinct preference for mate poaching. When the man was described as unattached, 59 percent of the single women were interested in pursuing him. When that same man was described as being in a committed relationship, 90 percent were interested." #882
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] I think violence from either of the sexes is wrong. Now, the difference between men and women is that a man can restrain a woman (Because he is stronger), a woman can't. This is why there are only very rare cases that a man can hit a woman (Say if the woman brandishes a weapon) because even if the woman is being violent, the man can restrain her rather than hit her in most cases. I agree that a child needs a father figure in their life, and perhaps the system is sexist towards women, in which case, yes, I'd agree it's wrong. Also, I couldn't find the statistic that 61% of child abuse is committed by women in the paper that you cited :s #916
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N. Korean citizen (04/17/2012) [-] Sorry, didn't cite that one correctly, it's from the Current DHHS report on nationwide Child Abuse. For some reason I can't find the exact report, but you can find numerous second hand references to it around the web like here: achildsright [.typepad.] com/achildsright/research.html However, in this governmental report: acf [.hhs.] gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm09/cm09.pdf#page=81 It still states that 37% of abuse is by the mother, with around 18% by the father alone. Looking back these do seem more realistic. As for violence, your still saying it like every man is strong and a capable fighter, I know personally the last time I hit a person was in High school. There shouldn't be a need for restraining, if anyone hits anyone else, they should be prepared to be hit back; it's like saying that Women are naturally better at looking after a young child (before the male influence becomes essential like above), so the father shouldn't come into contact with their child. Extreme example yes, but the point is similar, natural superiority should not be counted after the first strike. #772
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crackboots (04/17/2012) [-] #762
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Nothing to do with that, I'm not talking about pregnancy leave or housewives. Even excluding them, and taking hourly rates, not total pay, women are paid around 17% less. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap#Adjusted_and_unadjusted_gender_pay_gap  #731
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pyroic (04/17/2012) [-] While I agree with just about everything you say, you kinda made it worse when you typed "So just pay the fucking bill, it's not that big a deal, is it? ", as the argument "not that big a deal" is very relative and can be used in many arguments. Still, justifiable and well thought out points. #728
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] I'd like to reiterate that 1) Men are NOT naturally "more horny" than women, and that assertion doesn't even make sense. That's just a stereotype that you're using to excuse injustice. 2) The fact that men are generally stronger than women does not guarantee that all men are stronger than all women. 3) Cases of women actually having a lower paycheck is about 17% throughout the developed world. Not as big an issue as feminists would have you believe. 4) Women still ge away with much more shit than guys. #740
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] If men aren't any hornier than women, explain why the majority of prostitutes are female, the majority of people posting on craigslist for sex is more men than women, the majority of strippers are female and the majority of porn is made for a male audience. #736
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Yes, we are. 2) I agree, but in the majority of cases we are. I mean, unless the women is unusually strong or the man is unusually weak.. 3) And after taxing, paying for bills, rent, mortgages, etc, that percentage gets inflated into the amount you can actually spend on fun. For example, let's say that living costs take up 50% of your wage.. You now have 50% of your wage left, and of that, men get 17% more. So actually, if we do 17/50 = 34% more, effectively. So we get about a third more to spend at our leisure. 4) Women also do a lot less shit that men. One in every 10 murders is committed by women, for example. #1047
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) No. Males have, historically, been less sexually repressed. The only difference is that society caters to us, and, because of popular representation in the media, women are taught to refrain. 2) It doesn't have to be "unusual". Women take care of themselves much more than men. It wouldn't be hard for them to "catch up". 3) What I said was that women only have lower pay checks around 17% of the time. And when they do, it usually varies between 10 and 35%. Sorry if you misunderstood. 4) This isn't about serious crimes, t's about everyday society. It really boils down to why should a woman who's not a murderer get preferential treatment to you, who I'm also willing to assume isn't a murderer? #1050
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Sum up the times through history when males are more sexually repressed. Sum up the times through history when females have been sexually repressed. Who wins? 2) Point I was making is that on average, we're stronger, so we can overpower females with strength (Which personally I find to be unjustifiable, unless they're trying to assault you) and it makes sense for us to lift heavy loads that they have trouble carrying. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty#Male_musculature_and_body_shape Quote "The average adult male has about 150% of the lean body mass of an average female, and about 50% of the body fat." Obviously, as I said before, not every male is stronger than every female, but I think you'll find strength is vastly skewed towards males. And yes, it is unusual, because it isn't the usual thing for a female to be stronger than a male. 3) The point I was elaborating is that although 17% of total income may sound small, after living costs, it inflates upwards into the amount expendable on leisure activities (Hence why men should pay leisure costs (such as dates) more than women (But not always)). Refer to my comment #923 for an example. 4) She shouldn't get preferential treatment, and as far as I know, she doesn't. And while you seem to be pointing out that women get preferential treatment in society, you're neglecting the fire they come under from society, such as looking a certain way, getting lower wages, etc. What everyday preferential treatment does a woman get over a man (I'm willing to allow the case of child jurisdiction, since women do seem to have an unfair share of seeing their children compared to the father)? #1051
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Unless you were their for all of history, you won't get a very accurate number. It happens ALL the time, in literally every culture in recorded history (at least once). The reason you can even come as close as you can to counting the times for guys, and why it may seem like a higher number, is because it's never been accepted as the norm for guys. We as a people only remember things when we make a big deal out of them. 2) I didn't say it wasn't more common, it's just not rare enough to be considered unusual. The fact that a woman CAB be stronger than a man is reason enough to treat the two offenses as identical. 3) Okay, you don't get it. It has NOTHING to do with 17% of their total income. It just means that 83% of women in developed countries DO proportionately make as much as men. 4) I'll give you that they're expected to look a certain way, but that alone doesn't make up for how much they get. As I just said, they don't often get lower wages. It's a common misconception that they do because A. It used to happen and B. It still does in semi-rare cases, and feminists blow this out of proportion (the injustice committed by the people underpaying these women is not the fault of every man). As for that baby thing, that's not a societal thing. Every individual couple gets to decide how much who sees the kids. If you were a father, you wouldn't just assume your wife will do all the work because that's how everyone else does it. The main flaw with your argument is that you expect every man to have to pay for the actions of any man. #1052
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) At no point in history have I ever come across men being less horny than women. I think it's up to you to provide evidence of such an event, not for me to find it (Since, I could tell you right off the bat that there are more female prostitutes, and have been for hundreds of years, pornography is in much more abundance for males rather than females, rape is committed more by males than females, etc, etc) 2) Why you are basing your opinion on society as a whole on the outside outcome? By which I mean, why are you trying to explain how society behaves by picking the outsider? And trust me, it is a rarity to find a female that is stronger than a male. I'd maybe say the outside 10% of female and male strengths overlap. 3) You have your fact wrong here. The correct way to think about it is that females have on average a 17% lower pay check, not that 17% of females are underpaid, see this wiki article for reference; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap#OECD Here, and I quote "women still have 20% less chance to have a job than men, on average, and they are paid 17% less than their male counterparts." 4) Feminists are not blowing the pay gap out of proportion. The investigation above was made by the OECD, who are an internal economic organisation made to stimulate recovery after WWII. You may think "Women work less due to pregnancy / child rearing" but it's not. The 17% average gap in pay is based on hourly rates, which go outside how often a gender works. And you've misunderstood my point on child jurisdiction. I'm saying that this typically is a case of sexism against males, because fathers often have to pay unfair amounts to the mothers whilst she gets preference over when to see her kid (As opposed to the father getting an equal say.). I agree that in principle child jurisdiction is supposed to be equal, but in reality, it's not. #1054
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TheBarneyStinson (04/17/2012) [-] 1) Why the hell should it be up to me? Just because you don't know horny women doesn't mean they don't exist. Some of my closest female friends are, no word of a lie, complete nymphomaniacs. Because those are the kind of women in my life, by your logic, you should prove to me otherwise. 2) I'm not saying society should accommodate only the outsider, I'm saying it should accommodate everyone. You're arguing so hard for the majority that the minority is getting right fucked. If they're both equal offenses, no one has any excuse. 3) That's an American statistic. 17% is also roughly the same number of men actually making more than women in the ENTIRE developed world. I'm afraid I don't have a link for that, as I learned it in school and not on the internet, but I think that the title of 'developed country' alone should imply that it is plausible for most women to have similar incomes. You also have to factor in how much of that is coincidence (ie, women dropping out of school or choosing lower paying jobs). 4) Yes, actually, they are. It's an awful situation for them, but they can't use it as absolute binding proof of the patriarchy as so many of them try to. And... yes. It is inequal. That's why I'm arguing it should be equal. Did I miss something? #1055
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] 1) I'm not saying that there are no horny women, but I am saying that there are a lot more horny men than horny women. 2) Well straight away what I'm saying is that I'm basing my opinion on the majority because they so far outweigh the minority case. Therefore in most situations I'm more right than you. 3) Not an American statistic, if you look at the graph you'll see it's an average spread over many western world countries. Admittedly one big cause of the men's average wage being higher could be because women get pregnant and decide to give up their professional career. However, it could also be the case that women are simply shunned out of higher positions. As an example, there hasn't been a female president, and only one British female prime minister. I'm just not sure that child rearing / starting a family would account for that many males in high places, so to speak. It's most likely a mixture of the 2 factors I'll admit, but that still means inequality on some level. 4)Well talking about patriarchy, how many women are there as CEOs of companies or leaders of nations? I just really don't think that child rearing could account for such a high percentage loss of females in the workforce. On a happy note, I think we're on the same page with the child jurisdiction, just most likely both partially tired (And so both finding it hard to get across a point lol) #717
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N. Korean citizen (04/17/2012) [-] I belive theres a what would you do episode on the first one... you may want to watch that [url deleted] The rest I can agree with though lol #684
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excallibur (04/17/2012) [-]  THIS <---- fabulous because: 1. you got trips lol (666) 2. you are right 3. you didnt use any overfaggtry overused meme to come whit the explanation 4. i like your username so! THIS MAN DESERVES THE COMMENT OF THE DAY AWARD #697
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N. Korean citizen (04/17/2012) [-] They arent trips, its the goddamn number of the comment, there is no luck involved. If you comment after #599 you are going to get 666.  #701
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excallibur (04/17/2012) [-] i think you just went full retard... if i comment after 599 its 600 i dont suddenly skip to 666 lol dumb anon #682
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N. Korean citizen (04/17/2012) [-] That would be a very neat and interesting story if anyone would actually give a shit. Why do you make such an effort and waste so much time on a comment ? You might consider getting a life. #695
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bluntdestroyer (04/17/2012) [-] Also I made the comment because it's better than revising for my finals. | ||
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