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#45 - YllekNayr (07/23/2014) [-]
Yes. Nobody is born a christian. It's an action, an ideology. Something you can become, or lose. Being black is none of those things.
And FYI, all you have to do to be a Christian is believe Jesus Christ is god. Everything else is optional. You don't have to go to church, or be nice, or pray, or anything. News flash - the WBC followed the Bible more closely than most Christians today.
#68 - schneidend (07/23/2014) [-]
The Bible says everything I just said. Also, the stoning passages are in the Old Testament, as I recall, which are not only archaic, but not necessarily Christian doctrine. Christianity is following the word of Jesus CHRIST, and he was basically a socialist peacenik with a generous streak a mile wide.
#81 - butakun (07/23/2014) [-]
I think you two might be defining the term differently. It seems like Yllek is using the broadest possible definition of what makes a person a "Christian," while schneid is thinking in terms of what makes a person a "good Christian."
Also, to be clear, belief that Jesus is God is not a prerequisite for being Christian, there are denominations that believe Jesus was the Son of God but not one with Him. A better baseline prerequisite for the label might be belief that Jesus died to save humanity from sin and was then resurrected.
#87 - YllekNayr (07/23/2014) [-]
Fair enough. But there are plenty of Christians who do not follow beliefs as set by the Bible. There are tons of lukewarm Christians who consider themselves Christian because their parents are, rather than because they have an actual belief. There are Christians I've met who don't believe in Hell. There are Christians I've met who think Christianity isn't a religion. There are Christians who believe in cutting back funding for the poor. There are Christians that believe that throwing the first punch is acceptable (see the atheist professor copypasta for an example that people champion). There are Christians who think issuing death threats to atheists for being atheists is acceptable.
Christians are hypocrites all the time, like most people, as you've said, because they aren't different from most people. They're just people. They're not on some moral pedestal like glayn would like to claim, where only the REAL Christians are all saints and martyrs.
#91 - glayn (07/23/2014) [-]
I don't think they're on any kind of pedestal. A lot of the time Christians make me despise them, mostly when they're talking shit on chat shows about how evolution never happened, or how Christianity should be taught as though it's fact. I'm not a Christian myself either, but you can't claim to be part of any kind of group without following its tenets. The new Testament as far as I understand preaches to love thy neighbour regardless, and to help them where you can, it's a pretty open ended deal and a pretty nice ideology when people aren't trying to use it as an excuse to ram their religion down your throat. Spreading hate and judging people is very much NOT in the new Testament. In fact I'm pretty sure that guy Jesus said something about throwing stones only if you're sinless, and no one is according to him. So people who do can't try to call themselves CHRISTian if they don't want to follow CHRIST's ideology.
#94 - YllekNayr (07/24/2014) [-]
Well that's the whole point I've been arguing. While you've been saying stuff like
"I'm pretty sure they're not. Sorry if that upsets you. If you want to follow a religion you have to abide by its tenets, otherwise you're a hypocrite and not a member of the religion you profess to follow. That's how these things work."
Which is bullshit.
#95 - glayn (07/24/2014) [-]
Either you're amazingly stupid or you're doing your best to troll here.
If you want to follow a religion you do as it says. That's what religions are. End of.
You asked why the word Christian was in quotation. Because they where acting UNchristian. And doing the opposite of what the religion wants. Not because they where being a dick or because they're an ass hole. Is this now simple enough for you or do you need a step by step explanation.
#48 - glayn (07/23/2014) [-]
I'm pretty sure they're not. Sorry if that upsets you. If you want to follow a religion you have to abide by its tenets, otherwise you're a hypocrite and not a member of the religion you profess to follow. That's how these things work. Call yourself all you want, but it's empty words unless you do more than lip service.
#49 - YllekNayr (07/23/2014) [-]
"I'm gonna repeat what he said with fingers in my ears"
Hey dickwad. When muslim extremists blow themselves up, do you buy that shit of "they weren't real muslims"?
No. You don't have to actually follow the religion to consider yourself a member. Christians are hypocrites ALL the time. Get it through your head. Being a Christian does NOT make you a good person, and being a good person is NOT a requirement for being religious. Take your apologetics elsewhere.
#83 - butakun (07/23/2014) [-]
To be fair, people in general are hypocrites all the time. Congratulations on shutting down people with less defensible arguments than you, but if you actually want to convince people your position is right you might consider being a little less vitriolic in your responses.
If instead you're just being an ass to blow off steam, then that's your prerogative.
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