embrace the suck

its the chair force, its like a civilian job but you get to say your in the military. i was a Marine for 4 years and hated it. i don't regret it but didn't enjoy my time in. the air force is nothing like that, people there actually enjoy their jobs. that's why you don't see many air force vets, because their still in. but i would highly advise getting your bachelors before joining that way you can be an officer and get payed ALOT for doing nothing.

Not as fun as it used to be (fucking hate this new generation) but it's worth it.

Already in it. No regrets here.

Don't do it... seriously not worth it but yet again just an opnion.

USMC Checking in. Loving it. I miss my friends and family from time to time, but the experience is like no other.

Im doing it. 2 years baby,ive began getting into shape now so the training is a bit easier on me.

As someone in the AF, make sure you do your research before you join. Don't ask random opinions on the internet, but actually talk to people who are in or talk to a recruiter. However, don't take everything a recruiter says to you at face value. Recruiters won't usually lie to you, but they rarely give the whole truth. They have numbers they have to meet, so they'll tell you a mixture of what you want to hear and what is right, not just one or the other. Do your own research, because it's not even close to what you think it is. The military is a lot different than most think. Two main problems I have with the military:

1) It's all very political. It's hard to explain, but it's very frustrating to deal with stuff properly, and getting in trouble over some things that aren't necessarily in your control.

2) The military has a problem with treating lower ranking people like they're still 16-17. I see new airmen come in all the time who are 26-27, older than their superiors; however, their superiors still treat them (and talk to them) as if they're a teenager. I understand there are still some people who are 18-19, and the higher ranking people don't consider them as "adults", necessarily. But when you're 22 or older, you're an adult; however, be prepared to not be treated as one.



Now, these are just my complaints. Everyone's experience is different, and there are so many benefits to the military. Health care, school, paid leave, flexible hours, etc. Just make sure it's right for you, and learn as much as you can before you join. Do your research. I hope you make the right decision for yourself, and stay well informed!

ditch the Chair Force and be a Marine.

yes

I'm in the Air Force, don't let the shit stained mongoloids of the internet influence your decision. Talk to someone who's in or talk to a recruiter.

Well, what kind of job in the Air Force would you be getting? Most of them are pretty risk-free, so there's no real point in not joining.

Then go for it dude. The most dangerous that will be is that you'll be out in the cold and heat.

The benefits far outweigh the (very few) cons. You get discounts at places, if you wear your uniform you get free meals all the time, at the bar you get free drinks, etc. Plus you get a pretty decent pay and you don't have to spend it on housing and food.

Depends on what you want to do. My sister is Navy, my dad was in the Air Force, and I'm Army. My sister wanted to work on reactors and ended up on a Carrier, got to see all sorts of places, like Hawaii and Dubai. My dad worked on an airfield for a few years just working on planes, never went over seas0. I'm a medic and have been to the shittiest parts of 4 countries, but have done things that EMTs in the states have only dreamed of.

More than happy to answer questions if you have them

Honestly, its a rough time to join the armed forces. The army is known for basically letting everyone in, but that is no longer the case. They expect... more. Many things that normally would have gotten a slap on the wrist is now getting you kicked out of the military. Thats a con of the new army. Another is terrible hours... You will work more than you ever have in your life. I joined late, I was already 22 and had a few labor intensive jobs. Army blew it out of the water for initial training. And if you do go the extra mile and do something like SF or Rangers, it will keep it up.

A pro is you will always look sexy with your shirt off. You just have to worry about having 3 different tan lines. Another is that you get free education. I came in with a few credits, but I'm currently about 2 classes away from my associates. And thats with me slacking off. Plus, once you get out, free school full time.

As a medic, I'm fully qualified to go out and work on an ambulance right now. I am the master of my job, and no matter what job you pick in the military, you will be the master of that job. Just try and pick something that works outside the military as well as in. I think thats a major pro, though.

Sorry, post is getting a bit long, but last thing. Go to school first. Older and wiser, I think the saying is. Go to your local college, and talk to ROTC. They pay for a good chunk of your schooling, and you go into the military as an officer. A newly commissioned 2nd Lt makes more than a retired Sgt Major of 20 years. I'm getting out in another 2 years, and going back to school. If I do come back into the service, its going to be as an officer.

Where are you stationed?

Ah, sweet. One of my buddies is down there... Actually maybe a couple. Do you know a Thomas?

Fuck yeah, 68W. If I go Army, I'm going 68W, don't know the MO for Navy's combat medics. Either way, I'm going medic, no matter what branch I serve in.

Be a Corpsman. Marines love our corpsmen

Well no shit you do. Only issue is I can only handle being with most Marines so much (no offense intended to any.) and it'd probably drive me crazy with all the egos. Not that all of them are that way, but there's been a rise in Jarheads that act that way unfortunately.

Well if you are a grunt you have to have that sort of mentality that you are awesome. POGs do it because they want to seem like tough grunts.

Makes sense. Still just something annoying to me. I can be patient with people, but it's just something I'd rather not deal with on top of everything else.

Which isn't to say I dislike Marines necessarily, I just can't be with the stereotypical Devil Dog all day every day, ya know?

nobody expects you to corps don't do shit in the rear. the hardest thing is maintain your training. even in deployment they only do shit if bad stuff happens

Medics have a hell of an ego. We drink more than Marines. Marines do have sexier chicks though... Too bad they prefer Army guys.

Yeah. Both my girlfriends sisters date army guys and they are pretty shitty human beings in my opinion. Also one of the army units left an injured soldier out in the shit and we had to go get him

Hah, it is interesting how many gorgeous girls are in the military.

In the Navy, Airforce, and Marines. Army... Not so much. You do get your exceptions, though

agreed.

Well, the Air Force has the Parajumpers, but its fairly hard to do. But they get far more medical training than you'll get in the Army, unless you go to 160th. In which case, you are offically the badass who goes in and saves special forces when they need help.

The Navy medics get more training than we do, but unless you go and get attached to marines, you are going to be bored. Hell, in the army you might get bored... Deployments are winding down. Only way to see action in the new military is going to be to go SF. And for a medic, that means Army or Air Force. If you want Air Force (the better choice in my opinion), you better be the best, because its all or nothing. In the Army, at least you'll get to do your job even if you don't get to be full blooded SF.

That's true. I'm gonna take the ASVAB soon, and since I've got a lot of brains I know that will help them want me in, but I actually am wanting to go SF, so I'm needing to get in better shape before I take the physical. I especially need work in the push ups, always been my weakpoint, but my pullups should be just fine, as well as my running time.

Do a PT test on your own and see where you are. Don't worry about being too in shape, though. Basic is designed to get you there, and so long as you go straight into, say, Ranger or Airborne training, you'll be fine.

Besides, SF is more mental than Physical.

Yeah, but I've heard plenty of times they will only consider you for SF if you can bust out 100 pushups in 2 minutes, stuff like that.

But, the mental part is a huge thing, I agree. And when it comes to physical, it's the endurance factor that makes or breaks you in SF training. But thanks man.

They have been offering me SF since I joined. I talked to one of the SF recruiters and he said he could have me at selection in under 2 months. I cannot bust out 100 push ups in 2 minutes... I'm happy with my 70 though.

Really? Huh. Well score. Though I'll definitely have to work to get to that point. It's stupidly sad on how bad my pecs are.

Before I actually joined I was just barely passing. 42. I did circuit training. Run a lap around a track, drop and do 15-20 push ups. And make sure you get them every time, even if you have to drop to your knees. I ran 2 miles like that. I was down to a 13 minute two miles

Oh wow. Yeah, that sounds like a good system. Thank you very much dude. Any other tips for the PT and such?

Eh, not really. I know there are a lot of sites out there with a few good programs that work, but in the end its just keeping consistent and actually doing the work. I would say once every other week or so do an actual PT test though, to see where you are. Its hard to improve if you don't even know where you're at. Passing for anyone straight out of highschool is 42 pushups, 53 sit ups, and a 15:56 two mile run. Just give yourself a five minute break between each event, no more, no less. If you want to max the test, you have to do 71 push ups, 78 sit ups, and run the two mile in 13 minutes flat

dont make a commitment like that based on the opinions of people on the internet. do it because its something you want to do

Why risk your life for a government that you probably don't fully support, nor fully supports you? That's my opinion.

This will sound cheesy, but if you want to be a hero, get out there on the streets and try to get into work that leads to change in society for the betterment and prosperity of all and sundry. It would make a much greater difference if your heart is in it. Joining the military doesn't make you a hero, and even if people like to say that "You'll be protecting your country, son", that's not the truth. Soldiers protect their politicians' and corporations' political and economical interests, nothing more. It's not WW2 anymore, basically.

That's my standpoint, feel free to disagree.

From what I've seen FJ is far more supporting of military members. One of the main reasons I stick around

I respect your comment, but changing the whole religion to make a point was done so many times throughout history including when kings would have books of the bible destroyed because they didn't agree with them

My normal relationship endued brain would say "Punch that crazy bitch in da face!"
My current alcohol lavished brain is saying "Let it happen, yeth."
My dick in both situations "Wohohoho, ehuehuehuehue."

I did, up until the global item reset.

I spent all that time trying to earn enough to buy a slot machine, and then have it disappear the next day.

Item game, never once.

It's a horrible game, 0/10 would never play again.
I'm lying, I'm still playing the game, please help me

I used to be an item hunter like you
Then I took a reset to the inventory

I like opening chests. No idea why but just getting random loot is fun. I usually buy things for 200 fj points and sell the items I get from the chest back.

Yes, and I made 100$ of that game, so I don't mind it

How so?

There are guys who are loaded with money and stuff, and I was 8th on the rank, so he offered me a 100$ for my items, I was afraid of scamming but everything went good

he payed via WesternUnion if you want to know that

funky

I did for a while. Then I quitted because the community was horrible.
I even created a fucking website where all the crafting recipes were to help people.
When addy resetted items, he copied my whole site, removed all evidence I ever made it and blocked me, making me unable to use accounts on boards.

tl;dr: Yes I did, but fuck that bullshit

I remember you.

And I remember you and your ip
Jk, I am too lazy to remember that shit

I did till he reset items.

*play

half the site did... it was cursed. I swear. I spent hours at a time just collecting absolutely pointless items. dark days...

That shit was like virtual crack.

it was the best of times, it was the fucking most life consuming horrid mind numbing worst of times

Would be even worse if they happen to be female too.