Which could be the equivalent of maybe, working out your fullest 5 hours a day for a human. Meaning you do more than what the average is.

extra cash outside of my job does not fall from the sky sadly, or else you would see me with an butterfly net outside, running after the free money rain. (Also my laptops survives highest 2.5 hours of deep CAD work befor it get´s to hot/the batterie runs out/CAD spits at my work and just shuts off every 5 minuts. So far i haven´t looked what the newest models can do, as the one i use since 4 years has worked perfectly so far, and i am an man that beliefs in "if it is not broken, don´t try fixing it")

Also happy new year my brotherly FJ faggats (including the gigantic faggat thats is myself), hope you fucks and me as well get this year better done! (And that we get laid)

well spoken but maybe I should clarify

I mean that the human equivalent of a laptop doing cad for 2.5 hours would be having a really intense workout with no pause for 5 hours. The laptop collapses after 2,5 hours and the human won't be able to make it an entire day, will probably rest the entire day.

Fuck, there is an reason why i didn´t try an "this year i will do my workout plan correctly for an month at least" in the last 5 years or so.

Also i am to drunk now to find an proper meme for anything right now.

Most modern laptops can go 8-10 hours without a charge. Its not 2007 anymore

and unlike you, i use my laptop for actuel batterie hungry jobs, like working in CAD and not just to watch Porn in HD

Which could be the equivalent of maybe, working out your fullest 5 hours a day for a human. Meaning you do more than what the average is.

extra cash outside of my job does not fall from the sky sadly, or else you would see me with an butterfly net outside, running after the free money rain. (Also my laptops survives highest 2.5 hours of deep CAD work befor it get´s to hot/the batterie runs out/CAD spits at my work and just shuts off every 5 minuts. So far i haven´t looked what the newest models can do, as the one i use since 4 years has worked perfectly so far, and i am an man that beliefs in "if it is not broken, don´t try fixing it")

Also happy new year my brotherly FJ faggats (including the gigantic faggat thats is myself), hope you fucks and me as well get this year better done! (And that we get laid)

well spoken but maybe I should clarify

I mean that the human equivalent of a laptop doing cad for 2.5 hours would be having a really intense workout with no pause for 5 hours. The laptop collapses after 2,5 hours and the human won't be able to make it an entire day, will probably rest the entire day.

Fuck, there is an reason why i didn´t try an "this year i will do my workout plan correctly for an month at least" in the last 5 years or so.

Also i am to drunk now to find an proper meme for anything right now.

well that all depends on what you do and what you need to do.

refillable potions serve only one purpose: sustain AFTER the first back.
if you're having trouble getting through first clear, you should go with normal pots.
also what camps you smite is essential.

oh and rule nr.1 unless you are a level 2 ganker, ALWAYS start on the side with botlane leash.
double leash is neccesary for almost all champions jungle as it is right now. (exceptions include warwick, shaco, trundle, etc. champs that either have incredibly good base sustain, or just don't need leash at all)

if mana is your problem: start Hunter's talisman, if health is your problem: start Hunter's machete.
basically the only time you should start Hunter's talisman, is if you're starting red buff on a champion that WILL run out of mana before you reach blue, and is completely reliant on abilities to clear.


smiting: smite the camp you start, that's essential. the buffs you get from them are the best of all for clearing.

example: you're red team, so you start gromp (the big-ass toad) for double-leash from botlane.
you smite gromp and kill it. then go blue, then go wolves, and you smite wolves. this is important.
if you're on a fast-clearing champion, you will sometimes see yourself being able to clear wolves before smite is up. if you are having health problems even after following the other tips: wait untill you have smite up.
it is better to wait for 5 seconds at wolves before you start them, than to have to back before you can take red.

if you start the other side, smiting wraiths is not always neccesary (especially not on a champ that excels at clearing wraiths, like noc for example) but you should consider it depending on how you're doing. and if you don't smite wraiths, don't smite wolves either. save it for blue.

so to sum up: health pots are better for first clear, than refill flask.
always start on the jungle side that has botlane leashing you
wait 5 seconds for smite to come up (does not have to be up when you start the camp, but should be up before it's within smite range health) if neccesary.
and don't waste pots. almost never use 2 pots before you're done with the first half of the jungle.

hmm this sounds after some reliable tips, once im back at home i should try them out, maybe i have then an better time, thank you again.

I would anyway not gank with Nocturne at level 2, UNLESS there would be an golden oppurtunity (mid enemy gets careless with low hp and could be taken down in easly, or enemy jungle just escape with barely any life and is easly reacheble), and would gank in good situations, until level 6 where anything goes.

I had so far not even problems with my other jungle champions but Nocturne, which supriced me a bit, as he has quit good sustain thanks to his passive. (to be fair, so has Fiddlesticks and Udyr)

Guess i have just to addept my favorite jungler again to this session, ah well i am happy they didn´t changed jungle to much this year, last year was an complet relerning of "how to jungle for idiots - why you suck and why you should run away from level 2 Xin´s".

idk mate, maybe i fucked somehow the masteries over with nocturne, maybe i should get more then just 2 rune pages.

You can tell me what you want, but my masteries can´t be that fucking bad sir.

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Also i just noticed you used health potions, which may be the reason, i already talked with troll and came to the conclusion that maybe the problem are refillable potions are just an bane for jungle in general. But i have to test this out later when i am back home. As Silver 2 i don´t claim anyway to know any single aspect of the game, what i post is often just my personal oppinion about what unnervs me when it´s about LoL balance issues.

Fervor is shit.

I like pots more, with runes I'd take it easily with refiliable pot, not sure about no runes version.

It´s wonderful on nocturne though when you play him a bit tanky

Also to be fair, if we would go with the todays favorite compositions of keystones, the chees grinder of nocturne would look something like this: efferentinc.com/wp-content/lol6calc/index.html#ClClyK0CvCvKY but damn me, i really get sick of this endless thunderlords running around.

it's not good.

try 12/0/18 with Strenght of Ages if you play Cinderhulk

and btw, not sure if you realise that, but Fervor doesn't even work in jungle.

So take thunderlord's then : )

Xerath as well as Swain do not profit from thunderlord :^) Also if anyone is using thunderlord it clearly shows it´s just fucking redicilous, in that case they could take away the other 2 cunning keystones, as everyone will anyway use thunderlord.

em... yeah, they do. Both of them work great with Thunderlord and Deathfire Touch is terrible on Swain, since he's all dots.

In this case it would just prove that Thunderlord is terrible balanced, as it is more provitable to use for ANY champion then any other keystone in this case. Why even have deathfire or the other 2 cunning keystones?

well, I never said thunderlord wasn't op, it is. Until they fix it (they should rather buff other masteries imo), it's the way to go for like 70-80% champs.

Well it's ridiculously OP at the moment, so why not use it?
Also, how silver are you to play Swain?

Silver 2 to be exactly, but i never care to actuelly get higher in rank once i get mine each season. Also i love the fucking champ, excuse me for actuelly like using him. Surely you like to play an certain champ others would claim to be shit, do you give 2 fucks about?

> Calls me out for silver because i play swain
> says nothing about me playing xerath

I also don´t want to use like any fucking mongrel now this stupid shit on EVERY damn champion, because they could have better fitting keystones. Rito has to addapt it, because anything else is pretty much not used or not worth beeing used, in this case why even have 7 other keystones? Why not giving every masterie just 1 op keystone then, for Resolve just gets then Grasp of the Undying Cunning get´s just Thunderlord and Ferocity Warlord. Oh right, IT WOULD BE FUCKING BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING.

Well xerath has less of a toxic playstyle, swain is rage-inducing. I was playing him in that elo enough to know.
Plus, I don't think using other masteries as protest is going to work. Riot is going to nerf it after a while, so use it and when the others get nerfed we can all have fun. I too enjoyed trying to find out which one was the best for a champion and changing my build/playstyle for different keystones.

Actuelly i found out that the champs who use now thunderlord in masses have an hard time against Xerath (maybe because they can´t fucking reach him) and get then endless shot by him.

I already had my times where i got called an tryhard for actuelly using my spells, or even dare to use xerath´s ultimate when they stand with low life under tower and call back. Maybe that´s also just silver raging, after all i rage against this stupid chees keystone like an Bronze 5 Riven against the guy who picked Garen top.

But yes i agree, the moments of people who get frustraited because Swain shuts them down with nevermore just to suddenly notice that : Torment > Lazer bird > ignite > Ravenous reduces their health dangerously fast is impressive. Not even mentioning once hourglass comes to the party.

That is ALSO going in the book of grudges!

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Haven't laughed that hard in a few days. Thank you

m8 if you're gonna read it you'll have to commit to it. You aren't gonna see anything to fap to for a long time. If you're looking for quick porn this is not it.

Muv Luv and Muv Luv Alternative. Top rated visual novel trilogy. One of the best things I've read in ages (for the actual plot, not the "plot") if you can commit to getting past the first installment.

According to an Imgur user when issues the same question, the source is "Muv-Luv"
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