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#92 - Do you get out often? That joke is from the 70's, it was funny…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist -1
#95 - prettyflyforaderp (02/03/2013) [-]
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#89 - Dude I doubt you can read. This quote isn't by Epicurus, your … 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist +1
#84 - The thing is 9/10 of the people in this thread have never read…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist -1
#149 - ThumbingUp (02/03/2013) [-]
No, the bible is not accurate to the time period. It is a fiction novel written for the purpose of gaining control of nearby civilizations, hence its similarities to neighboring countries' religions; it made it easier for people to swap without feeling like they totally abandoned their old religion. The bible is not a textbook, it is not a book of facts, and the day you stop treating it as such is the day you open yourself to new knowledge.

Are we throwing around random statistics now? 90% of us haven't read the bible, hm? Get over yourself. You seem to think you're the only omniscient one around here.
User avatar #85 - fxremastered (02/03/2013) [-]
Specifically why I said "Don't quote me on this".
#83 - Welcome to the internet. They aren't even atheists, they just …  [+] (6 new replies) 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist +3
User avatar #101 - mrmontombo (02/03/2013) [-]
It doesn't help that Christians, in my experience, have not been able to properly refute these quotes. That is why they keep getting used.
User avatar #107 - tomhefailin (02/03/2013) [-]
We just don't care to sink to their level. If ever a christian tries to defend their views they just call it "preaching" or "shoving religion down their throat". We gave no reason to try to appease them so if they want to hate us for no reason they can go ahead.
User avatar #109 - mrmontombo (02/03/2013) [-]
And that sounds like a cop out.
User avatar #151 - tomhefailin (02/03/2013) [-]
We live in a country that is over 75% christian, there is a tiny percentage that classify themselves as atheist. These people think they are the most magnanimous of people because they took high school science and are smarter than most of the country who can't even spell theology. Atheism is a cult of pedantic hopelessness that preys on uneducated christians for fun. How does that sound? If you would like me to refute any quotes for you or get in a religious debate I will gladly acquiesce.
User avatar #157 - militarybus (03/03/2013) [-]
cant tell if sarcasm or just really dumb 0.o
User avatar #152 - rennat (02/03/2013) [-]
Only 51% of people in the US subscribe to one particular form of Christianity. It is only by lumping all other sects together that the 78.4% is reached. 1/6th of the population claims to be unaffiliated with a religion in any way, which I would say is more than a small percentage. One thing I will agree with you on, at least partially, is the idiocracy that purveys through many self claimed "Atheists" around the world. Now, most that I have met are too stupid for me, or anyone for that matter, to take seriously. Sadly, this group is typically the most vocal. Personally, I enjoy online debate because I can actually sit down and read peoples opposing arguments to me own and reflect upon my own opinions. Now, as to your offer, I am rather curious about what you have to say about the above quote.
#81 - That isn't how it works. Nor is that anyones argument who woul…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist 0
#148 - ThumbingUp (02/03/2013) [-]
Now you're twisting definitions. The bible makes it entirely clear the God is supposed to know all that has happened, is happening, and WILL happen. He has a "plan" for every living thing, yes? How can he plan your future if he does not know your future?

Omniscient:
1. One having total knowledge
2. Having infinite knowledge or understanding
User avatar #100 - mrmontombo (02/03/2013) [-]
The that fact that he knows everything would mean he would be able to deduce what is going to happen next. Ultimate knowledge is ultimate power.
#80 - Im not sure where you are getting your image of this, Miltons …  [+] (4 new replies) 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist -1
User avatar #82 - fxremastered (02/03/2013) [-]
There was no need for that ending, explain your point as you did but no need to try and insult me. As I said I'm not religious and I have never read any sort of religious text other than what people post on the Current events board on Gamefaqs, /b/ or here.

As I stated before as well, I am not against it in any way either. I just personally don't care.
If there is a god then good for him and if there isn't, well too bad. I mean it's not like we will ever find out while we are alive so why bother arguing all the time.
#84 - blackandwhitegod (02/03/2013) [-]
The thing is 9/10 of the people in this thread have never read a single religious text for the religions they bash or discuss. It's frustrating since the Bible isn't purely religious, it is a great book to study a time period and a culture and should be mandatory reading if not just for the fact everyone can actually quote it. I am not sure where you got the idea of Satan being a good guy if you never read Miltons work or the bible
#149 - ThumbingUp (02/03/2013) [-]
No, the bible is not accurate to the time period. It is a fiction novel written for the purpose of gaining control of nearby civilizations, hence its similarities to neighboring countries' religions; it made it easier for people to swap without feeling like they totally abandoned their old religion. The bible is not a textbook, it is not a book of facts, and the day you stop treating it as such is the day you open yourself to new knowledge.

Are we throwing around random statistics now? 90% of us haven't read the bible, hm? Get over yourself. You seem to think you're the only omniscient one around here.
User avatar #85 - fxremastered (02/03/2013) [-]
Specifically why I said "Don't quote me on this".
#79 - ULTIMATE REPOST! WOO. Way to be a cunt and repost an image as …  [+] (1 new reply) 02/03/2013 on Deep atheist +2
User avatar #88 - prettyflyforaderp (02/03/2013) [-]
sup you must be new. you see the internet is a large source if info and an pictures.
so when somone reposts a picture its the recollected image of somthing coming back
#7 - please.... don't drive if you don't even know what a white dot… 02/03/2013 on I knew it! -2
#140 - I didn't realize FJ had so many nutritionists with a degree fr… 02/02/2013 on yumm -6
#109 - What I took from your posts are that A. You have a grudge agai…  [+] (4 new replies) 02/01/2013 on Religion +1
User avatar #110 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
Wow. Let's take this slowly.

A) I don't have a grudge against any religion so much as a dislike. Every religion has contributed positively to the world, you really think I'm that stupid? Christianity and Islam have the greatest influence. I can bring up other religion though if you want.
B) Actually, no. That's not the case at all. What I consider a religious conflict is a conflict caused by religion or when religion is used as an excuse for a conflict.
C) Define study. College degree? No. History books or websites? Yes.
D) I don't understand what you're saying.

In the following comments, I'll explain each event I listed. Thanks for being nice, respectful, and sincere. It's always nice when someone wants to have a serious conversation and never insults someone else before they even explain their points. You're so mature.
User avatar #111 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
- The Spanish committed genocide against the Aztecs, Mayans, etc. in the 16th and 17th centuries. The Spanish "God, Gold, and Glory" justifies their crimes.
-Abortion clinic bombings have occurred several times within the past 20 years. Forgive me for my poor choice of words. I should have said abortion clinic violence. Nearly all of these incidents were committed by a religious person who was upset by the practices of the office.
-Lynching was common only 60 years ago and back. Surprisingly, nearly all incidents recorded were performed by extremely religious people. Their reasoning varies, but nearly always has something to do with god.
-Discrimination and racism play hand in hand. The Bible says that darkness is bad. Dark skin is therefore bad. Christians justified their racist views with the Bible.
-Slavery (refer to above)
-European nations colonized Africa and brought their religion with them. Through conversions (usually forced) they destroyed the cultures and lives of many African peoples. The same can be said for the Native Americans.
-You'll notice that there is an exceptional amount of child molestation within the Catholic Church. The sexually deprived priests and cardinals really have no where else to turn, and god doesn't say anything bad about molesting children. The Church doesn't even deny it. They just protect the priests and cardinals from legal trouble and move them to a new church who has no idea who they are.
-The Catholic Church encourages that no one use contraceptives. This includes condoms. Since the Church has such a large influence and presence is Africa, and since AIDS is such a problem, and since there aren't any condoms to be used, STDs including AIDS and unwanted babies spread very quickly. It does nothing but harm to people who are already in pain.
-I am indoctrinated? By who? I do my own research and actually think for myself. Who would indoctrinate me into the lack of belief in any deity?

cont...
User avatar #112 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
-Discrimination against gays happens everyday by religious people. How have you not noticed that?
- Plenty of acid attacks are done in the Islamic culture against women due to women being viewed as lesser than men in Islamic countries. Where does this sexism come from? The Koran. You can look up the verses yourself.
-Religion still played a major role in the Inquisition. I never said my list only dealt with religion
-I'm not even going to reply to you on the Armenians through Sudan genocides. Look them up. They happened.
-9/11 and the Middle east are viewed as political and land disputes generally, right? Well, they are. They're also religious. This all stems from the creation of Israel, which the middle eastern countries didn't like. The got Israel because they claimed it was their homeland and that since the Torah says the land was promised to them by god, the got it. Of course, the Palestinians had been taught by the Koran that the land that is now Israel was given to them by god. This only created more and more problems for them, which lead up to what is going on right now.
-Honor Killings are very popular in Islamic nations. It's allowed because it's allowed in the Koran.
-The Holocaust and WWII were lead and started by Adolf Hitler. As it turns out, Hitler grew up Catholic and continued to be extremely religious throughout his life. He wrote in Mein Kamf that he was doing the will of god.
-I included sacrifices in their to include the primal religions and beliefs of South American tribes and other religions similar to them throughout the world.
-Religion played a major role in the Crusades. It's not hard to see.

I never said that any and all of the events I mentioned were only caused by religion. There are many factors to all of them and exceptions to all of them as well. Many acid attacks are just against women for no religious reasons at all. WWII and the Holocaust were also caused because Hitler was batshit insane.

cont.
#113 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
I would never put something on the list I gave if I even thought religion didn't play a role in it. My thing about religion is that it's used as an excuse for many, many conflicts throughout history.

Of course, there are many wonderful things about religion as well. Italy wouldn't have experience the Renaissance. Culture would be lacking without it. There are many, many charities run by religious organizations that do a ton of good in the world. Many religions teach love and kindness as well, but they also teach hate, violence, and discrimination.

I would never be so immature to suggest that religion is the only cause of conflict in the world. If there were no religion, conflicts would definitely arise and terrible things would still happen. I'm just saying there'd probably be less. This picture sums up my view pretty well. Gotta love some Freud.
#108 - -Mass murder of South American peoples by the Spanish when col… 02/01/2013 on Religion +1
#107 - Lets continue with how wrong you are. -The Inquisition Was… 02/01/2013 on Religion +1
#106 - oh man let's see how you are wrong. and I assure you that … 02/01/2013 on Religion +1
#103 - Not everyone is an asshole in a religion some take it very ser… 02/01/2013 on Religion -1
#102 - Actually the motivations were mixed. The crusades are largely … 02/01/2013 on Religion +1
#50 - IF you remove religion PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THE SAME THING …  [+] (23 new replies) 02/01/2013 on Religion +22
User avatar #104 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
-9/11
-Honor Killings
-The Holocaust
-WWII in general
-I can't even begin to mention all the wars in the middle east
-World Trade Center bombings
-Sacrifices
-Acid attacks
-The Crusades
User avatar #105 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
-The Inquisition
-The massacre of the Armenian Christians by the Turks
-The genocide of Muslims, Roma, Serbian Orthodox and others by the Ustaša
-The genocide of the Roman Catholics in East Timor by the Muslim government of Indonesia
-The genocide of Christians and Animists by the Muslim government of Sudan
-Mass murder of South American peoples by the Spanish when colonizing America (God, Gold, and Glory)
-Abortion clinic bombings
-Lynching
-The discrimination against blacks
-Slavery
-Colonization of Africa by European countries (same Idea as God, Gold, and Glory)
-Molestation of innocent children by the Catholic Church
-Spread of AIDS in Africa by Catholic Church (Church says no condoms, people get AIDS)
-Indoctrination of young children into a system
-Discrimination against homosexuals
-Acid attacks

Tell me how, without religion, these things would be just as abundant. No one is arguing to world's problems would be solved. The number of needless death and pain would go down, however.
#109 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
What I took from your posts are that A. You have a grudge against Christianity and Islam, which is funny because they ARENT the only religion in the world. B. You seem to think because someone has a religion and fights someone with a different religion that it makes it a religious war and not just a run of the mill hate crime. C. You've never actually studied history or psychology. D. You are more indoctrination to pointless bigotry against religion than most religious bigots I know are bigoted towards non-religious folk.

Frankly it is disgusting you would make all of these arguments in the first place without even understanding the events, the people, or the cultures.
User avatar #110 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
Wow. Let's take this slowly.

A) I don't have a grudge against any religion so much as a dislike. Every religion has contributed positively to the world, you really think I'm that stupid? Christianity and Islam have the greatest influence. I can bring up other religion though if you want.
B) Actually, no. That's not the case at all. What I consider a religious conflict is a conflict caused by religion or when religion is used as an excuse for a conflict.
C) Define study. College degree? No. History books or websites? Yes.
D) I don't understand what you're saying.

In the following comments, I'll explain each event I listed. Thanks for being nice, respectful, and sincere. It's always nice when someone wants to have a serious conversation and never insults someone else before they even explain their points. You're so mature.
User avatar #111 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
- The Spanish committed genocide against the Aztecs, Mayans, etc. in the 16th and 17th centuries. The Spanish "God, Gold, and Glory" justifies their crimes.
-Abortion clinic bombings have occurred several times within the past 20 years. Forgive me for my poor choice of words. I should have said abortion clinic violence. Nearly all of these incidents were committed by a religious person who was upset by the practices of the office.
-Lynching was common only 60 years ago and back. Surprisingly, nearly all incidents recorded were performed by extremely religious people. Their reasoning varies, but nearly always has something to do with god.
-Discrimination and racism play hand in hand. The Bible says that darkness is bad. Dark skin is therefore bad. Christians justified their racist views with the Bible.
-Slavery (refer to above)
-European nations colonized Africa and brought their religion with them. Through conversions (usually forced) they destroyed the cultures and lives of many African peoples. The same can be said for the Native Americans.
-You'll notice that there is an exceptional amount of child molestation within the Catholic Church. The sexually deprived priests and cardinals really have no where else to turn, and god doesn't say anything bad about molesting children. The Church doesn't even deny it. They just protect the priests and cardinals from legal trouble and move them to a new church who has no idea who they are.
-The Catholic Church encourages that no one use contraceptives. This includes condoms. Since the Church has such a large influence and presence is Africa, and since AIDS is such a problem, and since there aren't any condoms to be used, STDs including AIDS and unwanted babies spread very quickly. It does nothing but harm to people who are already in pain.
-I am indoctrinated? By who? I do my own research and actually think for myself. Who would indoctrinate me into the lack of belief in any deity?

cont...
User avatar #112 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
-Discrimination against gays happens everyday by religious people. How have you not noticed that?
- Plenty of acid attacks are done in the Islamic culture against women due to women being viewed as lesser than men in Islamic countries. Where does this sexism come from? The Koran. You can look up the verses yourself.
-Religion still played a major role in the Inquisition. I never said my list only dealt with religion
-I'm not even going to reply to you on the Armenians through Sudan genocides. Look them up. They happened.
-9/11 and the Middle east are viewed as political and land disputes generally, right? Well, they are. They're also religious. This all stems from the creation of Israel, which the middle eastern countries didn't like. The got Israel because they claimed it was their homeland and that since the Torah says the land was promised to them by god, the got it. Of course, the Palestinians had been taught by the Koran that the land that is now Israel was given to them by god. This only created more and more problems for them, which lead up to what is going on right now.
-Honor Killings are very popular in Islamic nations. It's allowed because it's allowed in the Koran.
-The Holocaust and WWII were lead and started by Adolf Hitler. As it turns out, Hitler grew up Catholic and continued to be extremely religious throughout his life. He wrote in Mein Kamf that he was doing the will of god.
-I included sacrifices in their to include the primal religions and beliefs of South American tribes and other religions similar to them throughout the world.
-Religion played a major role in the Crusades. It's not hard to see.

I never said that any and all of the events I mentioned were only caused by religion. There are many factors to all of them and exceptions to all of them as well. Many acid attacks are just against women for no religious reasons at all. WWII and the Holocaust were also caused because Hitler was batshit insane.

cont.
#113 - cullenatorguy (02/01/2013) [-]
I would never put something on the list I gave if I even thought religion didn't play a role in it. My thing about religion is that it's used as an excuse for many, many conflicts throughout history.

Of course, there are many wonderful things about religion as well. Italy wouldn't have experience the Renaissance. Culture would be lacking without it. There are many, many charities run by religious organizations that do a ton of good in the world. Many religions teach love and kindness as well, but they also teach hate, violence, and discrimination.

I would never be so immature to suggest that religion is the only cause of conflict in the world. If there were no religion, conflicts would definitely arise and terrible things would still happen. I'm just saying there'd probably be less. This picture sums up my view pretty well. Gotta love some Freud.
#108 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
-Mass murder of South American peoples by the Spanish when colonizing America You're an idiot.
-Abortion clinic bombings
Refer to me calling you an idiot.
-Lynching
Refer to me calling you an idiot.
-The discrimination against blacks
I really feel like you are trying hard here but your brain just lacks the logical capacity to think what you are saying through.
-Slavery
Racism has nothing to do with religion, existed before religion and will exist after.
-Colonization of Africa by European countries
Again you are completely off base, go back and study history.
-Molestation of innocent children by the Catholic Church
Molestation by just about every social group ever. Sick people are everywhere and THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.
-Spread of AIDS in Africa by Catholic Church
I don't... even... where do you get your facts?
-Indoctrination of young children into a system:Indoctrination seemed to work on you as an adult, what is your point? Idiots are brainwasted easily? Don't need religion for that.
-Discrimination against homosexuals :Hahaha, oh god that is priceless. If no one thought you were ignorant before that will do it.
-Acid attacks :You said this one twice, both times you are off base.
#107 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
Lets continue with how wrong you are.
-The Inquisition Was political as it was religious.
-The massacre of the Armenian Christians by the Turks
Did you attend any school beyond the 5th grade?
-The genocide of Muslims, Roma, Serbian Orthodox and others by the Ustaša
Don't know this one but I feel like you are wrong based on the track record of being so wrong all the time.
-The genocide of the Roman Catholics in East Timor by the Muslim government of Indonesia
Refer to religios people fighting =/= over religion
-The genocide of Christians and Animists by the Muslim government of Sudan
R-E-A-D a B-O-OK
#106 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
oh man let's see how you are wrong.
and I assure you that you are, in fact, wrong.

-9/11
Do you even know why we are in conflict with the East? The conflict was secular but religious people were used. In that sense it is exactly the same as every war ever.
-Honor Killings
You might want to google that, because I don't think you know what it means.
-The Holocaust
Again, you are wrong there. Religion was not the driving force, though it played a roll, mostly it was the fact Hitler was crazy and it is a lot easier to brain wash people into thinking others are the cause of their problems.
-WWII in general
I don't know what to say to this besides I hope you are trolling.
-I can't even begin to mention all the wars in the middle east
You don't know history, conflict between religious groups does not = a religious war. If I stabbed you multiple times because I wanted your house, and we were different religions would that make it a religious hate crime?
-World Trade Center bombings
Refer to 9/11
-Sacrifices
Yes, some religions did that. But every culture has at some point another killed a human being, religious or not.
-Acid attacks
Again, google that because it doesn't mean what you think it means.
-The Crusades
Have you ever read a book on the crusades? There are dozens of major crusades and they all happened for various reasons. Again just because Christians were on one side and Muslims were on the other doesn't make it a religious war. In fact some Crusades involved Christians fighting Christians and Christians allying with other countries who weren't Christian.
User avatar #91 - slyve (02/01/2013) [-]
Well, yeah, people are assholes, but i think what annoys people the most (at least it annoys me the most) is that religious people do all that shit too, but still think they are better because they have the absolute morality of god on their side. They are the good guys, no matter what they do. Religion condones murder, rape and general violence (and don't say this isn't true, if you read the whole bible, it turns out it could be a 2000 year old saw prequel)

The arrogance of that is what is so infuriating.
#103 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
Not everyone is an asshole in a religion some take it very seriously. Every religion has its hypocrits but you cant blame a religion for that, and especially not everyone in it. I try to hate on a person to person basis if at all possible. You can tell a lot about someone by how they dress and talk.
#75 - xxxsonic fanxxx (02/01/2013) [-]
wtf is the point of religion then you fucking idiot
User avatar #61 - Onemanretardpack (02/01/2013) [-]
What is the Crusades?

I know religion didn't start the crusades, but the whole of religion just leaves itself open to people to use it to further their agenda
#80 - xxxsonic fanxxx (02/01/2013) [-]
Matters of faith was the key motivator for pretty much every Crusade, other than the Forth which got hijacked by Venitians.

I'm not a big fan of this implication that Religion was used to further ones' agenda in the Medieval world. Most of the time religion was THE agenda. The Catholic church only began to become a little too wordly by the Early Modern period, and even then they tried to sort themselves out in response to Luther and Calvin's grievences.
#102 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
Actually the motivations were mixed. The crusades are largely agreed upon as not being religious. Religion was a motivator for some, but Urban also promised wealth among other things. Look up some of the variations of his speeches. If it was purely religious then why did they wait so long? Why did Constantinople only ask for defensible help after internal breakdown and civil war? How did the crusades end up in North Africa? In Europe? Why did Urban already have a plan set up before he was even asked?



#Sources, I have a degree in history
User avatar #71 - jellybob (02/01/2013) [-]
if not religion it would have been trade routes, or exploration which would eventually lead to expansion, pursuit of a natural resource or a breed of animal like horses (I'm not horse expert but I think their called arabians), searching for treasure and fame.
Those are all I could rattle off the top of my head, but I'm very tired
User avatar #73 - Onemanretardpack (02/01/2013) [-]
That's what I'm saying. Even if it isn't inherently evil, people use religion to expedite their own agendas. It would have happened eventually, but if you use religion, you don't have to pay people to do this stuff. All you have to do is arm them and feed them and they'll gladly kill all the infidels they want
User avatar #78 - jellybob (02/01/2013) [-]
True, people still use religion for their own personal agendas, but now instead of giving people weapons and fanaticism, they are given food, or shelter, comfort, sometimes jobs and transportation. It may still be for selfish reasons in many cases but at least we aren't aiming to kill those who believe differently than us anymore. Religion is flawed only because man is flawed.
*of course I'm leaving out the fanatical muslims and fundamentalist churches like the WBC that comprise the minority of religious peoples, but draw the most attention making the others look bad*
#55 - xxxsonic fanxxx (02/01/2013) [-]
I don't know man. I've read a lot of medieval sources and religion is a fairly dominant factor in matters such as the Crusades.

There's this lovely account in the Gesta Francorum (which was basically a diary written during the first Crusade) in which the Christians have been trapped in a town for weeks by Muslim besiegers. They're clearly starving and begin to hallucinate and they ALL claimed to have seen Jesus give the spear of Destiny to a noble. The Christians get whipped up into a religious fervour, ride out of the city and inflict a crushing defeat on the Muslims.

On another note, I wonder if edgy Reddit atheists are aware of how shit they make any theological debate.
#63 - hudspud (02/01/2013) [-]
What the shit did the middle part have to do with this agument? That peoples belief in a god makes them efficient warriors which means all wars originate from religion? Saying that all of man-kinds faults originate from religion is a pretty ignorant statement. I'm religious and I would think it would be ignorant to say that all of mans faults originate from a lack of faith.

(are you an edgy reddit atheist?)
#100 - xxxsonic fanxxx (02/01/2013) [-]
Note how I never said "religion is the source of all wars"

I was merely saying that faith was linked tomany aspects of medieval life. The story in the second paragraph was a fun little account of how faith had an effect on warfare.
#51 - luiselvergas (02/01/2013) [-]
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User avatar #132 - atma (02/01/2013) [-]
That's fair. I guess I find a weird double standard, like looking at the videos of Remi Gaillard, who puts a lot more time into his pranks but they boil down to the same structure of annoying people to spur a reaction. I suppose he gets a pass from me because his videos make me laugh until I can't breathe, but he's constantly hailed like a hero. Are the factors of humor and effort the only thing differentiating this video from Remi's?

I'm all for questioning truths... A lot of people would agree that blindly accepting information is the point when humanity starts to degrade in its acquisition of knowledge. But I still don't understand the concept of a "wrong" opinion. Maybe I'm not absorbing something that you've said, I'm honestly not the best reader (god damn I try), but there is a line between fact and opinion. Fact is dictated by study and repetitive proof year after year.
Doesn't that erase the idea of right and wrong opinions, though? Doesn't that mean that since facts are constantly being challenged, that opinion should never be dismissed?
#136 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
Think of opinions as water. If you boil it long enough you are left with something else entirely. The concepts of opinions aren't always black and white, but there are instances when they are. Opinions can become facts and vice versa, but some opinions will never be either. Some things just are. Other times you are forced to remove things until you are left with the raw element of truth. The human mind is complex and for all intensive purposes the majority of the world will always learn things through group mentality, that sort of mob mindset. It is for that reason we are so adjusted to change in politics, the average person will grumble about a law but won't do anything to change it because he has a certain fog of freedom about him. He doesn't want too much freedom, he wants enough freedom to be comfortable but not enough where he has to bear too much responsibility. This makes the idea of opinions tricky so most people will say opinions are neither right nor wrong, but that in itself is an opinion which leads to some sort of black hole of circular logic. In order to break that circle we have to apply rules to opinions and that is to say we require our opinions to be defended, and by doing so we turn opinions into facts. What if someone says blue is the best color? Maybe it is to them but then we do some research and we find that the color green is more "calming and relaxing" than blue, but blue increases longevity. So at which side do you take? Well both are obviously good in their own ways, but which is best changes. And that is the essence of general conscence. I believe however the right opinion is the one we always come back to.

I've seen a lot of Remi's work, some of his stuff is funny but in other scenes he's a dick. Some of his fun is harmless but like you said its mostly annoying. People enjoy it from a third perspective, but what if he was a snail in front of your car? What if he did that everyday? Maybe it was funny once but after a while it loses chrm
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User avatar #118 - atma (02/01/2013) [-]
What's an example of a right or a wrong opinion? How does the one above me reflect that?
I agree that the golfers took it way too far; I'd be pissed as well, but to raise a golf club against somebody because of a prank that offset your game a bit (it appeared to be a game between two friends, I'm sure they could have agreed on a fair way to rewind)? That's kind of fucking scary. No sport interference deserves actual human violence.
#126 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
He didn't actually hit him. He was trying to scare them. I've seen enough fights and enough bullies, and while these people aren't exactly SUPER bullies they still are bullies, so he did the sensible thing and broke it up with a threat. Sometimes if you make someone think you are going to kill them or hurt them you can avoid a conflict entirely. Especially since the "pranksters" are the ones engaging in the first place, both parties were going to fight the older ones did the right thign. If the guy with the club wanted to hit him, he had a chance in the very beginning. His swings are wide and meant to scare. Plus if you push anyone logn enough verbal or otherwise you get another Zangiff Kid.

If you want an example, let's look at your general consensus. What is a general consensus? The majority of society agrees on something right? Like if something is red or blue, etc. Now how does that apply to morals? Laws? General consensus decides social norms, which on a certain scale means something is right or wrong. Of course you could argue morals and philosophy, which breaks down the idea of society and structure. Now if you want a more concrete example look at science. There are instances in history where people have had conflicting opinions on where we came from, how old earth is, if the earth is flat or circular, if the earth rotates the sun or vice versa. However because we have evidence we are able to defend one opinion, and by being able to defend it better than the other opinion it becomes a fact. Same thing applies to morals, Hitler thought he was a hero in some ways or at the very least he didn't see himself as /evil/ but based on evidence and comparison we agree he is evil. Of course there are people who defend him, but because they are unable to do so it is agreed they are in wrong. Of course there are arguments you can make for Hitler, he saved Germany which played a major roll in bringing the world out of the depression but thats another argument entirely.
User avatar #132 - atma (02/01/2013) [-]
That's fair. I guess I find a weird double standard, like looking at the videos of Remi Gaillard, who puts a lot more time into his pranks but they boil down to the same structure of annoying people to spur a reaction. I suppose he gets a pass from me because his videos make me laugh until I can't breathe, but he's constantly hailed like a hero. Are the factors of humor and effort the only thing differentiating this video from Remi's?

I'm all for questioning truths... A lot of people would agree that blindly accepting information is the point when humanity starts to degrade in its acquisition of knowledge. But I still don't understand the concept of a "wrong" opinion. Maybe I'm not absorbing something that you've said, I'm honestly not the best reader (god damn I try), but there is a line between fact and opinion. Fact is dictated by study and repetitive proof year after year.
Doesn't that erase the idea of right and wrong opinions, though? Doesn't that mean that since facts are constantly being challenged, that opinion should never be dismissed?
#136 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
Think of opinions as water. If you boil it long enough you are left with something else entirely. The concepts of opinions aren't always black and white, but there are instances when they are. Opinions can become facts and vice versa, but some opinions will never be either. Some things just are. Other times you are forced to remove things until you are left with the raw element of truth. The human mind is complex and for all intensive purposes the majority of the world will always learn things through group mentality, that sort of mob mindset. It is for that reason we are so adjusted to change in politics, the average person will grumble about a law but won't do anything to change it because he has a certain fog of freedom about him. He doesn't want too much freedom, he wants enough freedom to be comfortable but not enough where he has to bear too much responsibility. This makes the idea of opinions tricky so most people will say opinions are neither right nor wrong, but that in itself is an opinion which leads to some sort of black hole of circular logic. In order to break that circle we have to apply rules to opinions and that is to say we require our opinions to be defended, and by doing so we turn opinions into facts. What if someone says blue is the best color? Maybe it is to them but then we do some research and we find that the color green is more "calming and relaxing" than blue, but blue increases longevity. So at which side do you take? Well both are obviously good in their own ways, but which is best changes. And that is the essence of general conscence. I believe however the right opinion is the one we always come back to.

I've seen a lot of Remi's work, some of his stuff is funny but in other scenes he's a dick. Some of his fun is harmless but like you said its mostly annoying. People enjoy it from a third perspective, but what if he was a snail in front of your car? What if he did that everyday? Maybe it was funny once but after a while it loses chrm
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User avatar #108 - atma (02/01/2013) [-]
There's a such thing as a general consensus, sure. There aren't wrong and right opinions.
Did you major in a hardened soul?
#117 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
There very much are right and wrong opinions. Some things are general consensus, some things are logic but either way opinions can be wrong.
I wouldn't tell someone their opinion in their favorite color is wrong, or if they enjoy chocolate cake. Shit even people who want to waste their life. But there are some things that need to be black and white, right and wrong, not because they are cultural but because they are programmed into humans through nature.
User avatar #118 - atma (02/01/2013) [-]
What's an example of a right or a wrong opinion? How does the one above me reflect that?
I agree that the golfers took it way too far; I'd be pissed as well, but to raise a golf club against somebody because of a prank that offset your game a bit (it appeared to be a game between two friends, I'm sure they could have agreed on a fair way to rewind)? That's kind of fucking scary. No sport interference deserves actual human violence.
#126 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
He didn't actually hit him. He was trying to scare them. I've seen enough fights and enough bullies, and while these people aren't exactly SUPER bullies they still are bullies, so he did the sensible thing and broke it up with a threat. Sometimes if you make someone think you are going to kill them or hurt them you can avoid a conflict entirely. Especially since the "pranksters" are the ones engaging in the first place, both parties were going to fight the older ones did the right thign. If the guy with the club wanted to hit him, he had a chance in the very beginning. His swings are wide and meant to scare. Plus if you push anyone logn enough verbal or otherwise you get another Zangiff Kid.

If you want an example, let's look at your general consensus. What is a general consensus? The majority of society agrees on something right? Like if something is red or blue, etc. Now how does that apply to morals? Laws? General consensus decides social norms, which on a certain scale means something is right or wrong. Of course you could argue morals and philosophy, which breaks down the idea of society and structure. Now if you want a more concrete example look at science. There are instances in history where people have had conflicting opinions on where we came from, how old earth is, if the earth is flat or circular, if the earth rotates the sun or vice versa. However because we have evidence we are able to defend one opinion, and by being able to defend it better than the other opinion it becomes a fact. Same thing applies to morals, Hitler thought he was a hero in some ways or at the very least he didn't see himself as /evil/ but based on evidence and comparison we agree he is evil. Of course there are people who defend him, but because they are unable to do so it is agreed they are in wrong. Of course there are arguments you can make for Hitler, he saved Germany which played a major roll in bringing the world out of the depression but thats another argument entirely.
User avatar #132 - atma (02/01/2013) [-]
That's fair. I guess I find a weird double standard, like looking at the videos of Remi Gaillard, who puts a lot more time into his pranks but they boil down to the same structure of annoying people to spur a reaction. I suppose he gets a pass from me because his videos make me laugh until I can't breathe, but he's constantly hailed like a hero. Are the factors of humor and effort the only thing differentiating this video from Remi's?

I'm all for questioning truths... A lot of people would agree that blindly accepting information is the point when humanity starts to degrade in its acquisition of knowledge. But I still don't understand the concept of a "wrong" opinion. Maybe I'm not absorbing something that you've said, I'm honestly not the best reader (god damn I try), but there is a line between fact and opinion. Fact is dictated by study and repetitive proof year after year.
Doesn't that erase the idea of right and wrong opinions, though? Doesn't that mean that since facts are constantly being challenged, that opinion should never be dismissed?
#136 - blackandwhitegod (02/01/2013) [-]
Think of opinions as water. If you boil it long enough you are left with something else entirely. The concepts of opinions aren't always black and white, but there are instances when they are. Opinions can become facts and vice versa, but some opinions will never be either. Some things just are. Other times you are forced to remove things until you are left with the raw element of truth. The human mind is complex and for all intensive purposes the majority of the world will always learn things through group mentality, that sort of mob mindset. It is for that reason we are so adjusted to change in politics, the average person will grumble about a law but won't do anything to change it because he has a certain fog of freedom about him. He doesn't want too much freedom, he wants enough freedom to be comfortable but not enough where he has to bear too much responsibility. This makes the idea of opinions tricky so most people will say opinions are neither right nor wrong, but that in itself is an opinion which leads to some sort of black hole of circular logic. In order to break that circle we have to apply rules to opinions and that is to say we require our opinions to be defended, and by doing so we turn opinions into facts. What if someone says blue is the best color? Maybe it is to them but then we do some research and we find that the color green is more "calming and relaxing" than blue, but blue increases longevity. So at which side do you take? Well both are obviously good in their own ways, but which is best changes. And that is the essence of general conscence. I believe however the right opinion is the one we always come back to.

I've seen a lot of Remi's work, some of his stuff is funny but in other scenes he's a dick. Some of his fun is harmless but like you said its mostly annoying. People enjoy it from a third perspective, but what if he was a snail in front of your car? What if he did that everyday? Maybe it was funny once but after a while it loses chrm
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