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#97 - xxitzchubbsxx (10/23/2014) [-]
This is why i don't like DC they over level their characters but then underpower them.
If you take this information it is physically impossible for anything to ever hit the Flash. But all the time in games and cartoons you see one villain just stop wait. waiit. waiiiitt and smack. Oh look i got him. No that is not how it fucking works. Even in Injustice the first cutscene. The joker has a bomb that will explode in ten seconds. The flash is running after it and he can't get to it in 10 seconds? He can run around the world in an instant but can't run 300 metres in ten seconds... Just annoying.
#102 - metajunky (10/23/2014) [-]
All of them have reached powers beyond what they were initially capable of at some point
Wolverine can regenerate from practically anything at this point his current death notwithstanding. logan will be back eventually If he does die, he can just duel death and come back
Deadpool's regeneration is Wolvie's on steroids and was at a point BANNED from ever dying, plus he can win in most situations by being "T0teZ RAnDUM luuuuuuuul!!!!!11!!!!!1!!!" I love Deadpool btw
Thor can and has done pretty much whatever the writers want thanks to Mjolnir
Dr. Strange can basically do anything, because MAGIC
Reed Richards can basically do anything, because SCIENCE and PREP
Spidey once beat someone on Silver Surfer's level and can now support huge portions of buildings
Professor X can affect minds across the planet
Hulk got real mad and kicked everyone's ass, including the stupidly powerful people
And those are just some of Marvel Earth's heroes. Let's not get into the other 99% of heroes or the viilains. And that is just Earth too; the aliens, gods, and cosmic entities make Marvel the most powerful multiverse in fiction too
#104 - xxitzchubbsxx (10/23/2014) [-]
You make some good points.
The wolverine thing. He has always been able to regenerate. In fact that is his actual mutant ability. So it's not that he has become OP but they originally made him OP from the start.
Same with Deadpool, if he can't kill somebody. Well he's not going anywhere so try again. So healing isn't so much OP as it's just a cop out.
Dr Strange again is a situation where the character was made to be OP
Reed Richards probably got that idea from Batman (I'm mortal but i can kill every cunt out there. Because i'm smart)
Didn't know about the Spiderman thing but even then that sounds like it's down to the writing. I mean in terms of strength of most superheroes a portion of a building isn't that impressive. Hell in the original Spiderman 2 he held that thing up for Mooey Jone.
The Mind thing i wouldn't say is OP considering that is all his power is. Affecting minds. Minds can get stronger so why can't his power get stronger? I mean he can't control everyone on Earth at once or anything.
The Hulk was also a situation where he was meant to be OP but it's a double edged sword in that he has the vunerable side.
I agree with you that they are OP but like with the Flash they say this shit but yet he keeps getting hit? I just think Marvel have wrote these characters better than DC have.
#105 - metajunky (10/23/2014) [-]
Wolverine has always been great at regenerating, but not to the point where the only thing left is his skeleton. His healing factor has skyrocketed over time. Same goes with Deadpool
So why is it ok to ignore Strange, Thor, and Hulk being OP, yet Supes, GL, and Flash get the complaints
Reed Richards has always been stupidly smart. Like build time machines and operate devices that threaten Galactus smart. Like smartest person on Marvel Earth, the same one where Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, and Hank Pym live smart
It isn't just strength in Spidey's case, but all his powers. He can compete with many of Marvel's best thanks to his versatility. He even is the trainer of Hope Summers in a future timeline, the mutant destined to be the strongest ever and save the world in the future
Yes he can. Professor X is stupid powerful. He can turn everyone into vegetables if he wanted
#106 - xxitzchubbsxx (10/23/2014) [-]
Not too sure what to say about Dr strange but with Hulk like i said he has Bruce banner who is vulnerable. That and his ability is pretty much just strength and healing. So there are many ways you can overcome him. Stop him from moving. Give him nothing to stand on. Fly and he can't get ya etc. So he's overpowered as fuck but you can over come it.
Thor sucks without his hammer.
The thing abotu the flash that get's the hate is he goes so fast he literally can't be hit. he goes so fast he can stop anything in less than a blink of the eye. But he doesn't because although he can do these things, he doesn't, like with being hit and stuff.
Reed Richards i'm not a fan of tbh i think that's ridiculous but as i don't really care for the fantastic 4 i don't really care.
But even in that case spiderman still has all the same weaknesses i would imagine.
I didn't Professor X could do that.
#108 - metajunky (10/23/2014) [-]
Except once Hulk gets mad, there is little to bring him back to Banner. All Banner needs is a little excitation and he turns. In a prolonged fight, Hulk only gets stronger as he gets more mad. He reacts to attacks much faster than he is, so speed blitz is out of the question unless you are much faster than light, which isn't exactly common
If you think Thor is as only as his hammer then you know nothing about him
The Flash has been hit many times. He can't necessarily spam his most powerful techniques because it risks pulling him into the Speed Force. Plus his villains have developed ways around his super speed after facing Flash so many times
X2 gives a glimpse into Professor X's capabilities. His ability to just lock into anyone and read their thoughts, give them illusions, mess with their memories, or turn them into a drooling puppet is why many other characters are so adamant on building defenses for their minds
#92 - Womens Study Major (10/23/2014) [-]
#96 - metajunky (10/23/2014) [-]
Not true. Superman isn't even the most powerful guy in the Justice League depending on which version of Superman is being used and several characters in the league who Supes might be considered stronger than can still give him a really good fight. Supes doesn't even come close to some of the big boys in DC, and the most powerful entities view Supes like how we view bacteria: never paying attention to them and able to slaughter billions of them by accident by the simple act of walking
#99 - metajunky (10/23/2014) [-]
Bats? lol Hardly. Let's use this as a comparison:
Using this as a guideline, modern Superman (the one from the comics that most people are familiar with) is around mid to high herald level
The guys above him are galactic to universal threats, sometimes higher, and often possess very hax powers. Even more, some of them are embodiment of abstract concepts and can not really be destroyed, so long as that concept exists. These dudes are the reason why DC and Marvel are THE most powerful fictional universes
#91 - Womens Study Major (10/23/2014) [-]
The argument is based entirely on the superheroes acting out of character and their respective writers at the time, but it's generally considered that the Flash is the most OP of all DC (Marvel too, but only because no Marvel character is written to be stupidly powerful)
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