Science isn't meant to necessarily "prove" anything as I am quite sure you are aware of, however, it does look for possible answers supported by answers. Hypothetically though, let's say he existed. God is omnipotent is an acceptable way to describe him. If he were to be the creator of the universe, and we were of any rational importance of him, why are we so small an insignificant compared to the grand scheme of the universe. Second, if he were to exist, there is no rational to create a universe, he can just imagine the possible outcomes that yield to what creating a universe(s) would be like. Third, he wouldn't care. A God would never be good nor evil, he couldn't be. One would require emotion to portray the lines of Good or Evil, and a God would exist only through logic. He wouldn't feel for us, or have any reason to torture us nor allow us to live peacefully for all eternity. The reason God is so closely resemblant to us, is not because he created us through our image, but because we created him through ours. You'd have to assume that your God is the right one, and how can you be so sure of yourself.

I'm going to use an analogy, if that's okay. In the game Minecraft, you play the only person in a massive world, all of which can be used and influenced by your own actions. But you are the only one there (unless you're playing with others, but for this case let's say you're playing one-player). Why would Notch, the game's creator, give you an entire world, when it's just you? The only logical answer is that you're meant to explore this world and spend your time traveling to all it's parts. In the same way, I believe God gave us the entire universe so that one day we could explore it all. It's going to take a long time to get to that point, but we have billions of years left, according to science. Who knows? Maybe by the time Earth dies, our species will have developed the technology to move to another world. And we'll just keep doing that until the events of Revelations.

As for your second point, you're right. there's no humanly rational reason for God to create us. But God is not human. It's entirely possible that He has reasoning beyond our capacity to understand. He is God after all. I'm sure He has secrets. But we are so small compared to Him that we have no place questioning His choices or actions. We are flawed and He is perfect.

Your third point ties into the second in terms of us not having the capacity nor the right to understand God. True, what we define as morality is merely an arbitrary decision for God. But He is not a being of "logic" per se, as you describe Him. What you call logic is in itself a subjective term, because God exists outside the parameters of every aspect of the physical universe. He is not bound by your definition of logic.

And I can't tell you how we can be sure because we're not sure. We just believe. And that's enough for us.

Yes, I think you are right about this conversation, it isn't going to go anywhere. Unfortunately, you cannot see disbelief as I cannot see belief. THis will ultimately get us nowhere, but we can both agree that ibebannedfewl, gives atheist's such as me, a bad name and is not to be taken seriously. It's a shame he doesn't understand how religion works, yet he mocks it. I understand the idea of prayer, it's not to relieve ails or other such things, as look at it as a way for christians to reach out to their deity. So I'm not in agreement with his post.

Thank you for being civil about this disagreement. I bid you good day, sir.

Sorry I think part of this response was supposed to be my reply to another person's comment. My apologies.

Not inspired, but yes I did take it from there. I enjoy the alliteration when announcing it.

Why, can't handle opinions.

No, cant handle dumb faggots who act like they go hard.

Where did I ever say I go hard at all. I believe I was acting quite the opposite, you dumb tard.

no, you dont think you said it because you're just a little pretentious bitch.

You mad bro? I really think me talking about how I don't prefer benching and enjoy taking martial arts makes me mad, you slimy fuck.

yeah i can tell you're a ten year old by the way you're saying "you mad bro". and you know exactly what the fuck im talking about. stop trying to make what you said seem anymore innocent.

Here we go with the ten year old crap. I can tell that you have nothing else better to do that to start wars on the internet. If I was ten it would be more along the lines of "u mad bro?" I really think you must be trolling at this point, or we are talking about a completely different thread because in no way is anything I said have to do with innocence. It was just a statement towards my attitude at benching. I really don't see where you are going with this. I think someone forgot to take their smart pills this morning. How about you go lay down, think about what you said, and we can have an intelligent conversation about this in the morning, ok champ.

<--------- How you look right now.

really, that was the least most intelligent reply i ever read.

this is you just blabbing away like the retard you are

Well obviously I'm the one dealing with a 10 year old. You still can't find any basis for me acting like someone who quote on quote, "Goes Hard." You have no evidence making all your other arguments invalid. Now I think you just be trollin'. So unlike yourself I have a life to get on with, so unless you have anything intelligent to say, go sit in the corner, think about what you said and then proceed to maybe post an intelligent, thoughtful remark to my response, that is far from unintelligent. Your frustration towards my nonaggressive behavior is getting rather annoying now and while I would love to keep going on as to why you are wrong, you are just proving it yourself.

if you have such a life why are you replying back. im not trolling, if you go back to your posts and reread what you put, you will see how you were acting like a douche. but whatever, to think i was actually dumbing down my posts for you. i've gotten alot of shit for using alot of big words, i just thought you would appreciate it with you're compressed vocabulary. now go away, i have man business to attend to.

No of the words you used are part of a large vocabulary. Your using low to medium diction words at most. You vocabulary is far from hard to understand, so I fail to see what you mean by a large vocabulary. I was still not acting like a douche. I just said I don't like benching for the following reasons and how people put to much emphasis on strength. Strength is not everything and while keeping muscle tone is important, it is not needed to win battles. So I'm still waiting to see how I acted like a douce. Please do tell me. Also what man stuff could you possibly be attending to. Got a lot of masturbation in your near future, or are you just a wee little 13 year old with a complex going through puberty.

you should really make a tldr since i dont really have the time to read your moronic paragraph response.

Sure. TLDR; Your retarded and can't take the time to read my responses and respond intelligently. Is that good enough for you? Or did you finally realize you were wrong?

LOLOL. Thanks for at least posting something funny on my channel, fellow fag. :D

I saw, and it's ok I understand.

Who rolled me?

me, and i apologize :(

I forgive you my friend. I will take all of these comments with some sort of pride.

Well no problem chap, We EFG's need to stick together. Well I suppose we are in some sort of EFG heaven now LOL