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#9 - incase you are interested here is some stuff a faculty member … 05/25/2016 on Milo and DePaul 0
#13 - #10 if you want a faculty members response from today. 05/25/2016 on Triggered Travis 0
#12 - do with that email what you will, but i was just putting it ou…  [+] (9 new replies) 05/25/2016 on Triggered Travis +2
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#44 - herpdaki (05/25/2016) [-]
Not quite true. Some staff have spoken out in explicit support of the protesters.
www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/05/25/meet-radical-professor-indoctrinating-depauls-black-students/
#30 - anon (05/25/2016) [-]
Wait, what? I figured the school hadn't released any statements, but now, without any prior opinion on this, it sounds like they are siding with the protesters. Specifically this:
Generally, I do not respond to speakers of Mr. Yiannopoulos’ ilk, as I believe they are more entertainers and self-serving provocateurs than the public intellectuals they purport to be. Their shtick is to shock and incite a strong emotional response they can then use to discredit the moral high ground claimed by their opponents. This is unworthy of university discourse, but not unfamiliar across American higher education. There will always be speakers who exploit the differences within our human community to their own benefit, blissfully unconcerned with the damage they leave behind
Definitely not neutral.
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#102 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
Just because someone says they disagree with what a speaker is saying doesn't mean that they don't still believe that is of the utmost importance to protect the speaker's right to speak and have their voice heard. The whole point of the email is to say that even if you disagree with the speaker like the writer did, denying them the right to speak is the absolutely wrong way of going about it.
#147 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
If that was the whole point of the email, they should have restricted the content to that message, is all I'm saying. Injecting an opinion like that is like saying "good job, but don't ever do that again because I'm being forced to be neutral here"
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#148 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
That isn't the point. He's saying that he understands why people are upset by yiannopoulos because he is too, but he still does not condone their actions. He is making the point that just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have the right to silence their voice.
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#35 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
I was ashamed for DePaul University when I saw a student rip the microphone from the hands of the conference moderator and wave it in the face of our speaker. and On behalf of the university, I apologize to the DePaul College Republicans. They deserved an opportunity to hear their speaker uninterrupted, and were denied it. show otherwise, as he recognizes their right to protest, he in no way agrees with their actions there (the first one) and the second one has to do with his own personal views but as the school focuses on a diversity of opinions speakers like this come here often, just not to such protests.
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#31 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
this wasn't a public statement, this was a email sent to the depaul community only, i just thought i would share it with you all.
#112 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
I know. I appreciate you sharing it.
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#33 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
it was simply a school official, one of the head reverends, giving his thoughts on the subject as one of the figureheads of the school.
#11 - As this proceeds, I wish to make a few matters crystal c…  [+] (13 new replies) 05/25/2016 on Triggered Travis +18
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#17 - brokenmarble (05/25/2016) [-]
Respectful, and gives each party their due credit, even though he has an opinion - without cowering or hiding his opinion. Impressive
#113 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
Even though he's dead wrong about the wage gap. Why are you going to cite government data as your evidence when the government data itself does not take into account career choice? Do some research at your own library, reverend.
#29 - anon (05/25/2016) [-]
IMHO he should have remained neutral. Both as a representative of the school and a representative of the church. He can say whatever opinions he likes outside of those roles, but when using the school email and signing his name both with Rev. and President, this was inappropriate. Specifically this part:
Generally, I do not respond to speakers of Mr. Yiannopoulos’ ilk, as I believe they are more entertainers and self-serving provocateurs than the public intellectuals they purport to be. Their shtick is to shock and incite a strong emotional response they can then use to discredit the moral high ground claimed by their opponents. This is unworthy of university discourse, but not unfamiliar across American higher education. There will always be speakers who exploit the differences within our human community to their own benefit, blissfully unconcerned with the damage they leave behind

Like come on. If you would listen to the guy for 5 minutes, you would see Milo is pretty reasonable.
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#12 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
do with that email what you will, but i was just putting it out there as many people on this site have been saying that the DePaul staff agree with the protestors, and i only posted this to remove that illusion, they may share some of the same views, but in no way do they endorse how those protesters acted.
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#44 - herpdaki (05/25/2016) [-]
Not quite true. Some staff have spoken out in explicit support of the protesters.
www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/05/25/meet-radical-professor-indoctrinating-depauls-black-students/
#30 - anon (05/25/2016) [-]
Wait, what? I figured the school hadn't released any statements, but now, without any prior opinion on this, it sounds like they are siding with the protesters. Specifically this:
Generally, I do not respond to speakers of Mr. Yiannopoulos’ ilk, as I believe they are more entertainers and self-serving provocateurs than the public intellectuals they purport to be. Their shtick is to shock and incite a strong emotional response they can then use to discredit the moral high ground claimed by their opponents. This is unworthy of university discourse, but not unfamiliar across American higher education. There will always be speakers who exploit the differences within our human community to their own benefit, blissfully unconcerned with the damage they leave behind
Definitely not neutral.
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#102 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
Just because someone says they disagree with what a speaker is saying doesn't mean that they don't still believe that is of the utmost importance to protect the speaker's right to speak and have their voice heard. The whole point of the email is to say that even if you disagree with the speaker like the writer did, denying them the right to speak is the absolutely wrong way of going about it.
#147 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
If that was the whole point of the email, they should have restricted the content to that message, is all I'm saying. Injecting an opinion like that is like saying "good job, but don't ever do that again because I'm being forced to be neutral here"
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#148 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
That isn't the point. He's saying that he understands why people are upset by yiannopoulos because he is too, but he still does not condone their actions. He is making the point that just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have the right to silence their voice.
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#35 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
I was ashamed for DePaul University when I saw a student rip the microphone from the hands of the conference moderator and wave it in the face of our speaker. and On behalf of the university, I apologize to the DePaul College Republicans. They deserved an opportunity to hear their speaker uninterrupted, and were denied it. show otherwise, as he recognizes their right to protest, he in no way agrees with their actions there (the first one) and the second one has to do with his own personal views but as the school focuses on a diversity of opinions speakers like this come here often, just not to such protests.
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#31 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
this wasn't a public statement, this was a email sent to the depaul community only, i just thought i would share it with you all.
#112 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
I know. I appreciate you sharing it.
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#33 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
it was simply a school official, one of the head reverends, giving his thoughts on the subject as one of the figureheads of the school.
#10 - Going to put this out there, about 30 minutes ago a DePaul off…  [+] (16 new replies) 05/25/2016 on Triggered Travis +26
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#94 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
I go to DePaul as well and it's good to see them defending freedom of speech. Not many colleges out there seem to be doing so.
Also, I find it pretty funny that the first other DePaul student I've seen on this site also has a bacon related name.
#140 - baconnator (05/26/2016) [-]
lol well what can i say, we got devil dogs and thats about it, pork is in our nature =P
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#11 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
As this proceeds, I wish to make a few matters crystal clear.

Yesterday’s speaker was invited to speak at DePaul, and those who interrupted the speech were wrong to do so. Universities welcome speakers, give their ideas a respectful hearing, and then respond with additional speech countering the ideas. I was ashamed for DePaul University when I saw a student rip the microphone from the hands of the conference moderator and wave it in the face of our speaker.
I was alarmed when I watched individual students on both sides intentionally provoking the others with inflammatory language, but I was proud when I saw students — many students — working to calm each other, and at times, even hold people back from hasty decisions. Many of our students understood that protests only work when people conduct themselves honorably. I wish to thank all of them for self-monitoring the crowd’s behavior. The experience could have been a far worse experience had they not done so.
I wish to thank our Student Affairs staff, Public Safety team, Student Center employees, Chicago police and temporary contract safety personnel. They were thrust into an unexpected and challenging situation that we must examine for hard learned lessons. I am grateful that the situation was calmed and dispersed without serious injury to anyone’s person. I know the staff, too, are reflecting on these events and what might be learned for the future.
On behalf of the university, I apologize to the DePaul College Republicans. They deserved an opportunity to hear their speaker uninterrupted, and were denied it.
Here in Normandy, I expected to be moved by the generosity of those who gave their lives on the beaches early on June 6, 1944. I did not expect, however, to be shocked when I realized that most of the soldiers were the same ages as our students today. The rows on rows of white crosses in the American cemetery speak to the selflessness of the human spirit at early adulthood to lay down their lives for a better world.

I realize that many of yesterday’s protesters hold similarly noble goals for a more inclusive world for those traditionally held aside by our society. I realize also that these young soldiers died for all the freedoms enshrined in our Bill of Rights, including freedom of speech and assembly. We honor their sacrifice best if we, too, remember and honor all the rights of human freedom, even as we fight for more freedom and justice for all.

God bless you.

Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, C.M.
President
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#17 - brokenmarble (05/25/2016) [-]
Respectful, and gives each party their due credit, even though he has an opinion - without cowering or hiding his opinion. Impressive
#113 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
Even though he's dead wrong about the wage gap. Why are you going to cite government data as your evidence when the government data itself does not take into account career choice? Do some research at your own library, reverend.
#29 - anon (05/25/2016) [-]
IMHO he should have remained neutral. Both as a representative of the school and a representative of the church. He can say whatever opinions he likes outside of those roles, but when using the school email and signing his name both with Rev. and President, this was inappropriate. Specifically this part:
Generally, I do not respond to speakers of Mr. Yiannopoulos’ ilk, as I believe they are more entertainers and self-serving provocateurs than the public intellectuals they purport to be. Their shtick is to shock and incite a strong emotional response they can then use to discredit the moral high ground claimed by their opponents. This is unworthy of university discourse, but not unfamiliar across American higher education. There will always be speakers who exploit the differences within our human community to their own benefit, blissfully unconcerned with the damage they leave behind

Like come on. If you would listen to the guy for 5 minutes, you would see Milo is pretty reasonable.
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#12 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
do with that email what you will, but i was just putting it out there as many people on this site have been saying that the DePaul staff agree with the protestors, and i only posted this to remove that illusion, they may share some of the same views, but in no way do they endorse how those protesters acted.
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#44 - herpdaki (05/25/2016) [-]
Not quite true. Some staff have spoken out in explicit support of the protesters.
www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/05/25/meet-radical-professor-indoctrinating-depauls-black-students/
#30 - anon (05/25/2016) [-]
Wait, what? I figured the school hadn't released any statements, but now, without any prior opinion on this, it sounds like they are siding with the protesters. Specifically this:
Generally, I do not respond to speakers of Mr. Yiannopoulos’ ilk, as I believe they are more entertainers and self-serving provocateurs than the public intellectuals they purport to be. Their shtick is to shock and incite a strong emotional response they can then use to discredit the moral high ground claimed by their opponents. This is unworthy of university discourse, but not unfamiliar across American higher education. There will always be speakers who exploit the differences within our human community to their own benefit, blissfully unconcerned with the damage they leave behind
Definitely not neutral.
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#102 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
Just because someone says they disagree with what a speaker is saying doesn't mean that they don't still believe that is of the utmost importance to protect the speaker's right to speak and have their voice heard. The whole point of the email is to say that even if you disagree with the speaker like the writer did, denying them the right to speak is the absolutely wrong way of going about it.
#147 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
If that was the whole point of the email, they should have restricted the content to that message, is all I'm saying. Injecting an opinion like that is like saying "good job, but don't ever do that again because I'm being forced to be neutral here"
User avatar
#148 - ImmortalBaconEater (05/26/2016) [-]
That isn't the point. He's saying that he understands why people are upset by yiannopoulos because he is too, but he still does not condone their actions. He is making the point that just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have the right to silence their voice.
User avatar
#35 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
I was ashamed for DePaul University when I saw a student rip the microphone from the hands of the conference moderator and wave it in the face of our speaker. and On behalf of the university, I apologize to the DePaul College Republicans. They deserved an opportunity to hear their speaker uninterrupted, and were denied it. show otherwise, as he recognizes their right to protest, he in no way agrees with their actions there (the first one) and the second one has to do with his own personal views but as the school focuses on a diversity of opinions speakers like this come here often, just not to such protests.
User avatar
#31 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
this wasn't a public statement, this was a email sent to the depaul community only, i just thought i would share it with you all.
#112 - anon (05/26/2016) [-]
I know. I appreciate you sharing it.
User avatar
#33 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
it was simply a school official, one of the head reverends, giving his thoughts on the subject as one of the figureheads of the school.
#5 - well then **** both sides, because now im over here eating ram…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/25/2016 on Milo and DePaul 0
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#7 - ihateeverybodytoo (05/25/2016) [-]
no fuck the black lives matter types that went on stage. The guy doesn't do anything but talk and if you think he caused this you are part of the problem.
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#6 - herpdaki (05/25/2016) [-]
That's fair. It's a complicated issue. I'd personally blame the school's president, but I admit my own bias there.
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#9 - baconnator (05/25/2016) [-]
incase you are interested here is some stuff a faculty member sent out today /Triggered+travis/funny-pictures/5929214/10 (i put it as a comment on another post)
#4 - why the **** the breton look like some **** out of jojo 05/24/2016 on Stealth Archers +2
#35 - so she was damaged goods?  [+] (1 new reply) 05/23/2016 on Protect Your Waifu +15
#36 - cigma (05/23/2016) [-]
sheeeeeit
#32 - i'm more concerned about those 3 shots that would have been in…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/23/2016 on Protect Your Waifu +7
#34 - cigma (05/23/2016) [-]
those where already there when he put the picture.
#35 - baconnator (05/23/2016) [-]
so she was damaged goods?
#36 - cigma (05/23/2016) [-]
sheeeeeit
#4 - literally did it with a group of friends in the room (no noone… 05/22/2016 on The Future of Fitness is Now 0