you know nothing of bloodthirsty traitors until you have aligned with the romans, seriously, in one game the romans (my neighbours, 20+ cities, all low territory and population, versus my high population, high territory 4 cities) would repeatedly go to war with me, we'd fight for a few turns, decimate each others armies, then he'd make a peace offering, and afterwards just be totally cool with me, no after-war bloodlust, he was just like "lol sup bra, that war was cool, EXP for all my units eh? so wanna trade some cotton?"

fucking romans

Whenever i play i pick ghandi and just wait till i get nukes and fuck everyone up.

Ghandi's a dick in every civilization game.

I played on expert and he killed me with tanks.