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Bass player for the band "Comatose Calling". Love metal. Play games a lot. Yeah, that's about it.

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#38 - Ah yes, forgot about Forza completely. Point still stands though. 05/25/2013 on Shots Fired 0
#35 - Quite simply, the PS4 reveal centred around games and how game…  [+] (15 new replies) 05/25/2013 on Shots Fired +6
User avatar #440 - currentlyfapping (05/25/2013) [-]
None at the reveal because it was a console reveal not a game reveal. Why is this so hard to understand for people? The entire conference was designed to show what the console can do and E3 is where they will show games.. such a simple concept that people cant seem to grasp.

Always online is not true either. Apparently its a once every 24 hour thing. This is all just rumoured anyway.

Used game fee is still up for debate on microsofts side. They have officially stated that as well.
User avatar #663 - auesis (05/26/2013) [-]
First impressions are everything. You reveal a GAMES console, and then fail to deliver a reasonable display of games, then you have failed in winning the hearts and minds of dedicated gamers. Notice how Sony first and foremost emphasised games? The other features were practically deemed secondary in comparison. Sony learned from Microsoft's strengths in the last generation, and Microsoft have gone backwards. It's all about games - I don't give a fuck if it's E3 or not, you want to make a big spectacle of the reveal of your new games console, you better show some fucking games. Leaving EVERYTHING until E3 leaves bad taste in the mouth of all gamers that tuned in to see the initial reveal - how is that in ANY way good PR?

Once every 24 hours is moot - that is effectively always online. You need a connection to own one, plain and simple. Also, it is NOT rumoured. It is confirmed that you need to connect to the cloud in order to register your games to your XBL account when you first insert the disc - in other words, you need to be online before you can play games at all.

It is also 100% confirmed that by registering your game to your XBL account, you are then unable to play that disc on another account - so no such thing as borrowed games. The only way a game can be re-usable is if you trade it in to a store, who then have to connect to Microsoft's Azure pre-owned game database (which they have to agree to integrate in to the store's own system), where they disable the disc code for your XBL account, enabling the disc to be usable on another account. That is where the "check-in" every 24 hours comes in - for Microsoft to wipe any installed games that you traded in from your system. Please, tell me more about how any of that is positive.
User avatar #71 - hammywh (05/25/2013) [-]
well like you said about E3 microsoft might just be waiting for E3 to show off all of their 'core gamer games' while the initial reveal was just for the more casual audiences... like the CoD fags
User avatar #76 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That doesn't make any sense, though - surely the more dedicated gamers were going to be the ones tuning in to the very first reveal and not the casuals?
User avatar #110 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i think i mentioned this earlier to you. the event wasnt just about the console.
User avatar #123 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm responding to someone else - take that in to context first.
User avatar #155 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
im well aware but usually i take what other people say into my next conversation
User avatar #77 - hammywh (05/25/2013) [-]
yeah they might have not really thought that all through though, they might have now realized how badly they fucked themselves over
#65 - anonymous (05/25/2013) [-]
How can PS4 even try to center their reveal around the console when they did not even reveal it
User avatar #74 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
They revealed the specifications, controller, network features, social features and a plethora of titles, and all you care about is the box that houses it?

If anything, not showing what the console looks like gives them the big stage at E3 to display it. It's all about mind share - they let Microsoft take the spotlight prematurely by going "LOOK AT THE SHINY SHINY", and now they're most likely going to bring that spotlight right back when they show the hardware along with whatever else they're hiding.
User avatar #40 - edwardyeap (05/25/2013) [-]
PS4 still got a few exclusives in the works in case you didn't know. Pretty sure Deep Down, Beyond Two Souls, DriveClub, Killzone and Knack aren't all.
User avatar #44 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Of course - I'm just saying that if Microsoft focus fully on games at E3 (which I doubt), then they might overshadow the stuff that Sony has in reserve. It's doubtful, but possible.
User avatar #45 - edwardyeap (05/25/2013) [-]
Yeah, but seeing that Witcher 3 MIGHT not be on Xbox, a huge turnoff.
User avatar #37 - Omegashenron (05/25/2013) [-]
I believe forza is an exclusive though.
User avatar #38 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Ah yes, forgot about Forza completely. Point still stands though.
#236 - You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/25/2013 on Coke Vanilla Is Awesome!! 0
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
#209 - No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for con…  [+] (19 new replies) 05/25/2013 on Coke Vanilla Is Awesome!! 0
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
#197 - That is completely irrelevant - it still means you need an int…  [+] (21 new replies) 05/25/2013 on Coke Vanilla Is Awesome!! 0
User avatar #202 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
isnt that how most pc games work? your point is most people who play do not have internet connection in there home a point that is completely false
User avatar #209 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for console use, when it was not before. PC users have always been expected to have a connection, because the services are embedded in an online environment. Console users have NEVER had the same expectation, and Sony recognises that and so does not ask that you always be online. It is a restriction that has come too early for console users.

At lowest estimation, 15% of current-gen consoles are not connected to the internet and overall, 28% of Americans do not use the internet at all. Cutting out that many people for some personal greed should NEVER be an option.
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
#191 - That's right, but they are also now taking a cut from the redi… 05/25/2013 on Coke Vanilla Is Awesome!! 0
#188 - Proven to work for PC users. Are you seriously trying to compa…  [+] (23 new replies) 05/25/2013 on Coke Vanilla Is Awesome!! 0
User avatar #194 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
but they dont require 24 seven. theyve said at most maybe once a day connection ive dealt with 3 megs for 1000 people and was still able to connect
User avatar #197 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That is completely irrelevant - it still means you need an internet connection to use it. Let's also not forget you need to register the code on your game disc with an XBL account when you first insert it, so in other words, you need to be connected to play anything.
User avatar #202 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
isnt that how most pc games work? your point is most people who play do not have internet connection in there home a point that is completely false
User avatar #209 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for console use, when it was not before. PC users have always been expected to have a connection, because the services are embedded in an online environment. Console users have NEVER had the same expectation, and Sony recognises that and so does not ask that you always be online. It is a restriction that has come too early for console users.

At lowest estimation, 15% of current-gen consoles are not connected to the internet and overall, 28% of Americans do not use the internet at all. Cutting out that many people for some personal greed should NEVER be an option.
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
#180 - And they're way over their stupid heads for doing so. The worl…  [+] (25 new replies) 05/25/2013 on Coke Vanilla Is Awesome!! 0
User avatar #185 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so trying something that has proven to work is wrong and over their heads? it seems like you are hating it for the sake of hating it
User avatar #188 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Proven to work for PC users. Are you seriously trying to compare the console market with the PC market? The expectations are on entirely different levels. It is not in any way reasonable to demand consistent internet access-related DRM for a console, considering that many countries don't have robust and reliable internet connections, and fewer than that have good average speeds.
User avatar #194 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
but they dont require 24 seven. theyve said at most maybe once a day connection ive dealt with 3 megs for 1000 people and was still able to connect
User avatar #197 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That is completely irrelevant - it still means you need an internet connection to use it. Let's also not forget you need to register the code on your game disc with an XBL account when you first insert it, so in other words, you need to be connected to play anything.
User avatar #202 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
isnt that how most pc games work? your point is most people who play do not have internet connection in there home a point that is completely false
User avatar #209 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for console use, when it was not before. PC users have always been expected to have a connection, because the services are embedded in an online environment. Console users have NEVER had the same expectation, and Sony recognises that and so does not ask that you always be online. It is a restriction that has come too early for console users.

At lowest estimation, 15% of current-gen consoles are not connected to the internet and overall, 28% of Americans do not use the internet at all. Cutting out that many people for some personal greed should NEVER be an option.
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
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User avatar #171 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so what if microsoft does that? by trying to change to a purely digital medium they reduce their costs. by getting some money back from preowned they have more money to produce games. they gave out the walking dead completely free not long ago. these decisions are being made to cut their costs meaning they dont need as much profit meaning it costs you less
User avatar #180 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
And they're way over their stupid heads for doing so. The world isn't ready to go all digital. There's a reason that Sony outright rejected the always-online concept.
User avatar #185 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so trying something that has proven to work is wrong and over their heads? it seems like you are hating it for the sake of hating it
User avatar #188 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Proven to work for PC users. Are you seriously trying to compare the console market with the PC market? The expectations are on entirely different levels. It is not in any way reasonable to demand consistent internet access-related DRM for a console, considering that many countries don't have robust and reliable internet connections, and fewer than that have good average speeds.
User avatar #194 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
but they dont require 24 seven. theyve said at most maybe once a day connection ive dealt with 3 megs for 1000 people and was still able to connect
User avatar #197 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That is completely irrelevant - it still means you need an internet connection to use it. Let's also not forget you need to register the code on your game disc with an XBL account when you first insert it, so in other words, you need to be connected to play anything.
User avatar #202 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
isnt that how most pc games work? your point is most people who play do not have internet connection in there home a point that is completely false
User avatar #209 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for console use, when it was not before. PC users have always been expected to have a connection, because the services are embedded in an online environment. Console users have NEVER had the same expectation, and Sony recognises that and so does not ask that you always be online. It is a restriction that has come too early for console users.

At lowest estimation, 15% of current-gen consoles are not connected to the internet and overall, 28% of Americans do not use the internet at all. Cutting out that many people for some personal greed should NEVER be an option.
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
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User avatar #161 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
its funn because this is what the "pc master race" has ben doing for years and no one cared
User avatar #167 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That's right, with Steam and other services, nobody cares. Why? Because the concept of a used game doesn't even exist. Why? Because of deals. Deals out the fucking asshole. Most weekends you could end up buying console ports for cheaper than the pre-owned price of the console game itself.

Pre-owned games are so successful as a market because new console games are all sold at a stupidly high premium. When you're getting more discounts for your PC purchases than you could ever want, that barrier disappears.
User avatar #171 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so what if microsoft does that? by trying to change to a purely digital medium they reduce their costs. by getting some money back from preowned they have more money to produce games. they gave out the walking dead completely free not long ago. these decisions are being made to cut their costs meaning they dont need as much profit meaning it costs you less
User avatar #180 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
And they're way over their stupid heads for doing so. The world isn't ready to go all digital. There's a reason that Sony outright rejected the always-online concept.
User avatar #185 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so trying something that has proven to work is wrong and over their heads? it seems like you are hating it for the sake of hating it
User avatar #188 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Proven to work for PC users. Are you seriously trying to compare the console market with the PC market? The expectations are on entirely different levels. It is not in any way reasonable to demand consistent internet access-related DRM for a console, considering that many countries don't have robust and reliable internet connections, and fewer than that have good average speeds.
User avatar #194 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
but they dont require 24 seven. theyve said at most maybe once a day connection ive dealt with 3 megs for 1000 people and was still able to connect
User avatar #197 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That is completely irrelevant - it still means you need an internet connection to use it. Let's also not forget you need to register the code on your game disc with an XBL account when you first insert it, so in other words, you need to be connected to play anything.
User avatar #202 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
isnt that how most pc games work? your point is most people who play do not have internet connection in there home a point that is completely false
User avatar #209 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for console use, when it was not before. PC users have always been expected to have a connection, because the services are embedded in an online environment. Console users have NEVER had the same expectation, and Sony recognises that and so does not ask that you always be online. It is a restriction that has come too early for console users.

At lowest estimation, 15% of current-gen consoles are not connected to the internet and overall, 28% of Americans do not use the internet at all. Cutting out that many people for some personal greed should NEVER be an option.
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
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User avatar #152 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
yes but before microsoft made nothing from resales. shouldnt it be their right to make money off their product
User avatar #157 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
They already made the fucking money for the product. Ever heard of Ebay? Or, well, I don't know, ANY STORE EVER?! Shit gets traded between people in all aspects of the marketplace without a need to give money back to the origin a second, third, fourth etc. time.

That's not even the point. They have KILLED their used games market, and now I cannot even share my gaming experiences with my friends despite having the disc in my fucking hands. There is NO justification, and I am disgusted by the shameful money-grubbing going on here.
User avatar #161 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
its funn because this is what the "pc master race" has ben doing for years and no one cared
User avatar #167 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That's right, with Steam and other services, nobody cares. Why? Because the concept of a used game doesn't even exist. Why? Because of deals. Deals out the fucking asshole. Most weekends you could end up buying console ports for cheaper than the pre-owned price of the console game itself.

Pre-owned games are so successful as a market because new console games are all sold at a stupidly high premium. When you're getting more discounts for your PC purchases than you could ever want, that barrier disappears.
User avatar #171 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so what if microsoft does that? by trying to change to a purely digital medium they reduce their costs. by getting some money back from preowned they have more money to produce games. they gave out the walking dead completely free not long ago. these decisions are being made to cut their costs meaning they dont need as much profit meaning it costs you less
User avatar #180 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
And they're way over their stupid heads for doing so. The world isn't ready to go all digital. There's a reason that Sony outright rejected the always-online concept.
User avatar #185 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
so trying something that has proven to work is wrong and over their heads? it seems like you are hating it for the sake of hating it
User avatar #188 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Proven to work for PC users. Are you seriously trying to compare the console market with the PC market? The expectations are on entirely different levels. It is not in any way reasonable to demand consistent internet access-related DRM for a console, considering that many countries don't have robust and reliable internet connections, and fewer than that have good average speeds.
User avatar #194 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
but they dont require 24 seven. theyve said at most maybe once a day connection ive dealt with 3 megs for 1000 people and was still able to connect
User avatar #197 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
That is completely irrelevant - it still means you need an internet connection to use it. Let's also not forget you need to register the code on your game disc with an XBL account when you first insert it, so in other words, you need to be connected to play anything.
User avatar #202 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
isnt that how most pc games work? your point is most people who play do not have internet connection in there home a point that is completely false
User avatar #209 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
No, my point is that it is now a mandatory requirement for console use, when it was not before. PC users have always been expected to have a connection, because the services are embedded in an online environment. Console users have NEVER had the same expectation, and Sony recognises that and so does not ask that you always be online. It is a restriction that has come too early for console users.

At lowest estimation, 15% of current-gen consoles are not connected to the internet and overall, 28% of Americans do not use the internet at all. Cutting out that many people for some personal greed should NEVER be an option.
#226 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Actually the fact steam will fuck up 9/10 trying to get it to work when you don't have internet is the biggest problem people have with steam

PC gamers never have expected to always been online

This is why Diablo 3 and Sim City was so hated, because they were required to be online always
User avatar #236 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
You're misinterpreting me - to use Steam, you have to have had a connection in the first place. Otherwise, how the fuck did you get a Steam account? Thus, having a connection is an initial requirement to using such a service. The buggy offline mode is irrelevant.

Consoles, on the other hand, have never demanded that you be online the instant you boot them up, stopping you from playing if you are not.
User avatar #240 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Ahk, I did misinterpret you

I have a habit of that it seems
User avatar #221 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
This was the smartest debate I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, you both had some great points and not once did someone call the other a faggot. Bravo.
User avatar #220 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
that estimate has very little connection for a few reasons. older houshoulds are not connected to the internet. those people are not likely to buy the xbox one for gaming. many current gen consoles are xboxes that shipped without a wifi adapter. somthing that will be included in the xbox one. we live in a day and age where wifi is litereally a click a way in 99 percent of american homes. thos who it is not hav no earthly right to be playing games because they are poor. that may come off the wrong way so to clarify if you are living in a neighborhood where no one has internet and you cannot aford even very shitty internet which is almost mandatory in todays world you are not at a position in your life where you should focus on recreation.

microsoft is taking the first steps into the future and letting everyone whos ready join them. everyone on this site has the capability to step into that future they are just unwilling.
User avatar #239 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
>Friend lives in nice area has xbox one
>Want to relax one night and even though you are poor, cause everyone has the right to relax one night
>Always relied on friend lending games for your gaming needs
>Can't relax to any games because xbox one requires a fee/online

They aren't taking their first step towards the future, they want to be money hungry and get more money from used games, because that is what they feel threatened by, used games
User avatar #243 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
if you bought the console you can afford a game or two. besides the five bucks you saved buying the game used isnt really that much
User avatar #247 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Yea, can afford game or two, but what happens if that is like 6 months saving for you? Xbox one and 2 games?

What about if internet goes down in your area and you haven't done that 24 hour online requirement that day? What happens if the internet is out for a week?

Used games sell for at minimum 20- from the initial price
User avatar #249 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i really want to know where your getting your used games. i have never found a used game more than ten dollars cheeper than you can get it anywhere else sure its not the sixty but if the option is gamestop for 40 and bestbuy fro 45 that five dollars isnt much
User avatar #250 - wanicochil (05/25/2013) [-]
Australia, Victoria, used games are generally 15-25 bucks cheaper
User avatar #251 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
even on new releases?
User avatar #223 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
Yes because it is such a great idea to alienate fans.
User avatar #227 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
remember when the 360 came out? everyone hated it. now look at it today. microsoft will have plenty of sales and when all of your worries are put to rest you are more than welcome to join us
User avatar #234 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I'm getting PS4. Seems more reliable. Then I'll keep my 360 and PS3 on one of those universal game towers. Yes when the 360 first came out everyone hated it, blah blah blah heard it before. But I seriously doubt Xbox One sales are going to be anywhere near 360 sales.
User avatar #241 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
i bet it will. and it will do better. remember when the ps3s main selling point was the bluray player? now even non gamers wanted it. thats what its going to be like for the xbox one. gamers arent the center of attention anymore
User avatar #253 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
I can't reply to 246. I'v already made my judgement at the reveal. That's what the reveal was for. Microsoft is making a lot of problems for itself. But with them claiming that the fees are gone that made it a tiny bit better. If I see them drop more of the crap like that maybe I'll change my mind. I don't even know if I'm getting a PS4. My PS3 is still going strong. (360 is crapping out though.)
User avatar #246 - ninjastarthrow (05/25/2013) [-]
And that's my main problem with it. It even seems that gamers are going to be shit on more than anyone else. It's a GAMING console. So why is GAMING so regulated with used game fees, always on internet and the coded discs? Why does it feel like Microsoft wants to stop the gaming and focus on the non gamer stuff? They hardly talked about games.
User avatar #248 - sketchE (05/25/2013) [-]
lets start with
gizmodo.com/report-microsoft-wont-charge-a-used-game-fee-on-the-x-509808404

then lets go with this wasnt E3. this wasnt a gaming specific show. wait till E3 when the focus is on the games then make your judgement
User avatar #145 - auesis (05/25/2013) [-]
Holy fuck, I meant Gamestop.
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#78 - Confirmed: - Used games require you to pay to use on …  [+] (12 new replies) 05/24/2013 on Underlying conspiracy +9
User avatar #94 - thegamefaceman (05/24/2013) [-]
You don't have to pay to use someone else's game. It was on the Xbox Support forum on Twitter on May 21st. The rest is true though ):
User avatar #98 - thewaronbeingcool (05/24/2013) [-]
You do have to pay. Major Nelson said that if you lend the game to someone and they try to play it without your account signed in on their console then they have to pay a fee.

If that's not a fee for used games then what is?
User avatar #99 - thegamefaceman (05/24/2013) [-]
Yeah, someone said that on the forum too and it was deny deny deny. I have no idea man, it's all a bit shady.
User avatar #85 - kmang (05/24/2013) [-]
i honestly think it could be an excuse for the ps4 that the architecture are vastly different. but an emulator would solve that easily
User avatar #89 - doctorstein (05/24/2013) [-]
You can also dl games. i.e; I have a PS3 model that can't run my ps/2 discs. But, I can dl games like FF9,Person 3 FES, and Psychonauts. Hopefully the XBoxOne will have this like the PS3 did. I also hope PS4 still has this.
User avatar #90 - kmang (05/24/2013) [-]
they never confirmed that your downloaded games would work. i would expect them to have ports available on the PSN store that is for the PS4 only. the VITA has its own store
User avatar #92 - doctorstein (05/24/2013) [-]
I know, I'm just stating that, in theory, you don't need CD backwards-compatibility to play prev-gen games. You can dl them, and that would work just fine. It's very simple, and they did it on PS3. I don't see why they'd remove that feature.
User avatar #93 - kmang (05/24/2013) [-]
it's just that i already bought the games. thats the issue. i really dont want to repurchase my collection. though i could just keep my ps3, my TV only has one HDMI input. it's dated and it's due for an upgrade. doesnt even have an LED backlight or motion plus lol
User avatar #96 - doctorstein (05/24/2013) [-]
Well, they're not going to wait for you to play catch-up. You have to keep up with the times, just like they do. Also, on an unrelated note, everyone mentions Xbox Live being superior to PSN. Have you seen PS+? I just got Sleeping Dogs and 2 of its DLC for free! That is an example of a common PS+ deal, and it's just as much as XBL.
User avatar #97 - kmang (05/24/2013) [-]
the huge caveat i heard was that all purchased content purchased while + is active will no longer be accessible when + subscription is expired. thats what i read a while ago and have been wondering if thats really the case. OH. my buddy got Demon's Souls for free with +. awesome game
#102 - doctorstein (05/24/2013) [-]
It is, but it balances out. You pay $17- 18 per month to get about 2 $50 games and up to 10 Indie games of varying prices. It's insanely fair. Plus, it's similar with games bought with XBL.

Pic semi-related, I don't believe P3 is on Xbox.
User avatar #107 - kmang (05/24/2013) [-]
Xbox is all about western games. forget bout japanese games lol
#8746 - Wales.  [+] (1 new reply) 05/24/2013 on Pictures of you sexy bastards 0
User avatar #9118 - slootyslooot (05/31/2013) [-]
Well shit. I'm from Washington....... We can be 'w' buddies!
#87 - And then of course, you have: - Used games requiring …  [+] (1 new reply) 05/23/2013 on halbox +4
#98 - threenippledcousin (05/23/2013) [-]
-you only need an internet connection once every 24 hours i think
-everyone on the console can play the game, its just buying used games incurs a fee, does suck
-can't really comment on the indie dev side as don't know much about it
-500 gb is the rumored size, not really an expert but this should be ok i think ?
- The tv subscription thing will be US only for a while, which will be shit for a while but ok once resolved
- probably won't use kinnect maybe for ryse ?
-i thought the arcade titles did carry over ? but 100%

I think the thing about the consoles is not the tech specs and games, but what your friends have, i'l get xbox because all my friends have them and i can then play with them .
#83 - PC master race. And what a silly remark. I hope you'r…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/23/2013 on halbox +2
#99 - threenippledcousin (05/23/2013) [-]
i thought it was funny too tbf, must have meant something to somebody though;)
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#77 - Yeah, that FIVE BILLION TRANSISTORS!!!!11!!! part was so enlightening.  [+] (4 new replies) 05/23/2013 on halbox +4
#78 - threenippledcousin (05/23/2013) [-]
ps fanboy ?
User avatar #83 - auesis (05/23/2013) [-]
PC master race.

And what a silly remark. I hope you're not trying to defend the transistors statement. It means literally nothing, to anyone. I chuckled heartily when that came up.
#99 - threenippledcousin (05/23/2013) [-]
i thought it was funny too tbf, must have meant something to somebody though;)
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#4973 - Not sure if good thing... Though I would be shocked, …  [+] (3 new replies) 05/23/2013 on Pictures of you sexy bastards +1
User avatar #8576 - slootyslooot (05/23/2013) [-]
where do you live?
User avatar #8746 - auesis (05/24/2013) [-]
Wales.
User avatar #9118 - slootyslooot (05/31/2013) [-]
Well shit. I'm from Washington....... We can be 'w' buddies!
#2161 - Most recent one I have, which is last November. Yes, I'm too l…  [+] (5 new replies) 05/23/2013 on Pictures of you sexy bastards +2
User avatar #2503 - slootyslooot (05/23/2013) [-]
God damn you look familiar. Like someone I have seen almost everyday, but have never really thought about.
#4973 - auesis (05/23/2013) [-]
Not sure if good thing...

Though I would be shocked, it would be cool to know I have an evil twin somewhere across the Atlantic...

Beautiful cat unrelated.
User avatar #8576 - slootyslooot (05/23/2013) [-]
where do you live?
User avatar #8746 - auesis (05/24/2013) [-]
Wales.
User avatar #9118 - slootyslooot (05/31/2013) [-]
Well shit. I'm from Washington....... We can be 'w' buddies!
#88 - I remember when I was like this - immediately got shut the … 05/21/2013 on Kids are a Curse +3
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#94 - fdemcavs (11/07/2012) [-]
what is the source to the girl jiggling her ass? please man
User avatar #95 to #94 - auesis (11/07/2012) [-]
No clue, sorry. It was just in my NSFW folder.
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Thank you!
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Well now you just go ahead and have a wonderful day.
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have a great day , i hope its fun
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