You don't have to pay to use someone else's game. It was on the Xbox Support forum on Twitter on May 21st. The rest is true though ):

You do have to pay. Major Nelson said that if you lend the game to someone and they try to play it without your account signed in on their console then they have to pay a fee.

If that's not a fee for used games then what is?

Yeah, someone said that on the forum too and it was deny deny deny. I have no idea man, it's all a bit shady.

i honestly think it could be an excuse for the ps4 that the architecture are vastly different. but an emulator would solve that easily

You can also dl games. i.e; I have a PS3 model that can't run my ps/2 discs. But, I can dl games like FF9,Person 3 FES, and Psychonauts. Hopefully the XBoxOne will have this like the PS3 did. I also hope PS4 still has this.

they never confirmed that your downloaded games would work. i would expect them to have ports available on the PSN store that is for the PS4 only. the VITA has its own store

I know, I'm just stating that, in theory, you don't need CD backwards-compatibility to play prev-gen games. You can dl them, and that would work just fine. It's very simple, and they did it on PS3. I don't see why they'd remove that feature.

it's just that i already bought the games. thats the issue. i really dont want to repurchase my collection. though i could just keep my ps3, my TV only has one HDMI input. it's dated and it's due for an upgrade. doesnt even have an LED backlight or motion plus lol

Well, they're not going to wait for you to play catch-up. You have to keep up with the times, just like they do. Also, on an unrelated note, everyone mentions Xbox Live being superior to PSN. Have you seen PS+? I just got Sleeping Dogs and 2 of its DLC for free! That is an example of a common PS+ deal, and it's just as much as XBL.

the huge caveat i heard was that all purchased content purchased while + is active will no longer be accessible when + subscription is expired. thats what i read a while ago and have been wondering if thats really the case. OH. my buddy got Demon's Souls for free with +. awesome game

It is, but it balances out. You pay $17- 18 per month to get about 2 $50 games and up to 10 Indie games of varying prices. It's insanely fair. Plus, it's similar with games bought with XBL.

Pic semi-related, I don't believe P3 is on Xbox.

Xbox is all about western games. forget bout japanese games lol

-you only need an internet connection once every 24 hours i think
-everyone on the console can play the game, its just buying used games incurs a fee, does suck
-can't really comment on the indie dev side as don't know much about it
-500 gb is the rumored size, not really an expert but this should be ok i think ?
- The tv subscription thing will be US only for a while, which will be shit for a while but ok once resolved
- probably won't use kinnect maybe for ryse ?
-i thought the arcade titles did carry over ? but 100%

I think the thing about the consoles is not the tech specs and games, but what your friends have, i'l get xbox because all my friends have them and i can then play with them .

i thought it was funny too tbf, must have meant something to somebody though;)

ps fanboy ?

PC master race.

And what a silly remark. I hope you're not trying to defend the transistors statement. It means literally nothing, to anyone. I chuckled heartily when that came up.

i thought it was funny too tbf, must have meant something to somebody though;)

where do you live?

Wales.