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|#17 - i think they got their high quality steel from asia, not sure though [+] (50 new replies)||08/17/2014 on Katana!||-40|
#22 - citruslord (08/17/2014) [-]
But yes, the Vikings had a smelting process that got the steel hot enough to burn away a large majority of the impurities, and made a much higher quality steel than the rest of Europe had. Ulfberhts are also really fucking sexy.
#47 - valyn (08/17/2014) [-]
Damascus and Wootz steels (from syria and india, respectively) were extremely strong, and the viking sword pattern made for a well balanced and extremely durable weapon. The katana was never intended to deal with other weapons or armor because it spent 90% of its time gutting helpless peasants.
#49 - valyn (08/17/2014) [-]
Samurai usually wore full laquered armor (of a design close to european brigandine or splint mail)
#161 - saladtongsofdeath (08/17/2014) [-]
although the katana was a staple of the japanese weaponry, it was not their only weapon, and the armor reflected that... you have the naginata (halbert-ish style weapon) yumi (bow) nodachi (long sword) odachi (think sephiroth's sword from final fantasy) jute (pressure point weapon... think of smoker from one piece) kabutowari (looks like a jute but sharp and heavier, designed to break through helmets and break bones) yoroi toshi (heavy knife designed to pierce heavy armor) zanbato (probably the biggest sword they had at the time... it literally means "horse slaying sword, it was dug into the ground and pointed at a mounted opponent and stabs the horse... after the horse falls, they used to just pick it up and halve their opponents... brutal...) and kanabo (japanese bat with spikes and/or studs designed to deal massive blunt force trauma... it was such an intimidating weapon that the japanese demons where depicted walking around with it... and for good reason... very heavy and designed to break virtually anything that was stupid to get in its way) just to name a few
#40 - andrakian (08/17/2014) [-]
The vikings had trade routes that spread through the rivers of eastern Europe, all the way to Constantinople. If you could get to Constantinople, you could buy anything.
Indian steel was the best in the world at the time, hands down. But Sweden apparently supplied very high quality steel as well, so it wasn't cost effective to import metal all along he silk route and then crossing Europe. Kings may have received Damascus swords, But the responsible for the great viking swords was well-treated Ulfberth steel.
#20 - angelious (08/17/2014) [-]
also: the reason why japanese katanas are "folded a thousand times" is because the steel over there was crappy.and this was their way of trying to get over it. for the same reason european swords were more of a bulking monstrosities(same fault but different solution) meanwhile the viking chiefs if i recall correctly imported high quality steel from india and crafted high quality weapons fitting for kings and chiefs of the time.
#84 - citruslord (08/17/2014) [-]
The folding did two things. It allowed them to gain a more ideal mix of carbon in the steel by mixing high and lower carbon steels. Their smelting process was not as advanced as today, so they couldn't quite control that otherwise. It also got rid of many impurities. After the working, the steel was actually quite high quality.
European steel was very low carbon generally, so they went for wider swords for more inertia cutting.
The Vikings learned how to make the steel from somewhere. They did not import it, but made it themselves.
#83 - drldrl (08/17/2014) [-]
Nah man. All of the swords between 800 and 1000 AD were made of the stuff. Meaning, a single blacksmith could not work that much, nor would he live that long. Also, around the same time, the Volga trade route was used a ton by Vikings, so it's far more probable that they did get the steel from Asia.
#85 - drldrl (08/17/2014) [-]
They're only larger because of the type of sword that longswords are. See how long the grip is? It's meant to be light enough to be able to wield with one hand if needed, but heavy enough to be wielded with two. That requires a lot of skill to make. If you go and find a sword meant to be used just in one hand, like most swords you're comparing it to, you'll find it's around the same size.
#41 - inzix (08/17/2014) [-]
#26 - fargfive (08/17/2014) [-]
and the whole "folded a thousand times" thing is an exaggeration. You can't fold a piece of metal a thousand times, much less a piece of metal. Japanese swords are good considering the shit metal they were made from, but they were by no means as amazing as people make them out to be.
#122 - anonymous (08/17/2014) [-]
Folding steel is done to remove excess carbon and impurities. So yes, you COULD fold it as many times as you want, but you go from improving the weapon to splintering to crumbling to totally fucking it up if you go too far.
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