Taoism

Nah, we just set fire on everything and worship whatever slightly out of ordinary. Leave us out of it.

Never even heard of Jainism, that being said is it an actual religion, or is it actually a philosophy like the Buddhism is supposed to be, despite the fact people constantly call it a religion, I also in the same post I amended my statement to specifically theistic religions, that was post #11 to this image. From a quick look at information on Jainism, if it is a religion and not actually just a philosophy, it looks to be a non theistic religion.

That all being said, Christianity for example does say pretty much the same thing, maybe not to animals but to humans, its one of the ten commandments "Thou shalt not kill" of course in a few chapters or less the bible tells people to stone others for stupid shit, thus you get to see one of the many GLARING contradictions of the bible

Thou shalt not MURDER
The difference is the same in Hebrew

I can not really comment on Jainism, I do not have really any information on it and I don't particularly like talking one way or the other on things I know little about, that being said the whole thing about buddhism being a philosophy, if I remember things right, was supposed to be said by an actual incarnation of Buddha, something about not wanting the people to take things to a level of zealotry like the buddha had seen in religions. Either way, in order to clarify things i said earlier that I meant Theistic religions only, and from what i've read so far in a quick peek, Jainism looks more like the idea of 'inner god' or enlightenment/nirvana which if I'm right in that assertion then my statement does not apply to Jainism as it would then be Non-theistic.

Wicca is... difficult to actually categorize due to the many divergent sects. There are sects that yes they are theistic in nature, having the moon goddess and what not, and yes claim non violence, but as a whole I'm not quite sure you can call Wicca theistic or even a unified religion. I'm both willing and unwilling to agree that Wicca breaks my statement due to the fact that it is such a splintered belief system.

Actually, Jainism and Buddhism are offshoots of Hinduism.

Didn't Jesus Christ say "I will not come back with a hand, but with a sword"?

As JustintheWaysian has said, it isn't a sword in the literal sense.

A sword is a weapon that divides and severs. Jesus crucifixion washed the souls of man and created a natural divide between those who accept him and those who don't. A major point in the New Testament is that Christians will be persecuted, perhaps even by those in their own family or circle of friends. His Sacrifice gave greater form to the eternal struggle between good and evil, and increased the gap between the children of the devil and the children of God.

Remember in the garden of Gethsemane when Peter drew his sword against the soldiers of the Pharisees in Jesus' defense, Jesus asked him to sheath his weapon, because "all who draw the sword, will die by the sword" [Matthew 10:34-36]. Jesus was not advocating violence when He said he came to bring the sword; He was emphasizing the fact that though His death gives life, it marked the beginning of a division that would lead to much suffering and death (on the part of Christians) for His sake.

Context is everything.

A fucking sword hand how cool is that

And that was the wrong quote.

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"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the Earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

can I just pretend jesus is gonna come back with a sword hand anyway

You could say similar things about Islam
Fact is, people will bend whatever religion to fit their views or correct cognitive dissonance

lol

same for jesus... he brought the sword. not peace and love.

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

And so on

so give me some context

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Right.. so he's coming back to annihilate any who will not serve.

Again- how is this not violent?

Is your reading comprehension this bad, or are you a troll? I just checked your profile and I'll have to land on the former. Come on man, it's like two paragraphs; it's not that freaking hard.

Still, I'll try again.
The 'sword' is a metaphor. If you'd read the NT, you'd know that for Jesus to advocate violence, or to suggest that He would return to "kill the nonbelievers", would be incredibly dichotomous and out of character.
To use the sword in this sense, He means to state that His actions are ones of dividing consequence. He didn't come to bring peace on this Earth, for the Earth will never be peaceful... that's not the point of our worldly existence. He came to save the souls of man, but to accept this salvation, one risks being persecuted, hated or stigmatized for one's faith.

Better?

And how do you get that context?

... because that's the actual teaching. That is literally the theological explanation and what catholic and protestant scholars alike have landed on, and what makes the most sense in the context of the chapter itself.

A quick google search:
www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-sword.html
www.holyspiritinteractive.net/youth/biblegeek/07.asp
carm.org/did-jesus-come-to-bring-peace-or-not
forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=522028

He is talking about the severing of relationship that can't coexist with one's faith. The entire chapter revolves around this.

and what happens to those that are severed?

Nobody is "severed", dude. Relationships MAY be severed, and there WILL be suffering on one's own account as a Christian. Jesus was saying that by accepting him, you will not be freed of worldly burdens, but rather, they may be intensified.

According to Christian theology, God loves all of mankind, and yearns for his children to return to Him. That is the whole point of Jesus; the word of God became flesh, and through God's own sacrifice, the sin of man is washed away through His suffering.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." [John 3:16]

God doesn't cast anyone into hell, but if someone chooses not the accept the sacrifice of Christ, they cannot receive forgiveness for their transgressions, and thus cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven (an imperfect being cannot exist in a perfect environment).

That's what I'm trying to tell you. Nobody is 'severed', that just sounds morbid. It's a metaphor.

People are severed. With jesus acting as the "sword", people will be killed and suffering caused because of a world none of us created. If you choose to do things like- wear mixed fabric, boil a goat in it's mothers milk, and so on- you're one of those that will be severed.

Being severed- according to the christian bible, means you go to hell.

All of the things you're saying are just excuses taught to keep believing.

Let me make this clear; like completely, crystal freaking clear: everything you just said, literally everything, is completely wrong... and you simply refuse to read anything that I'm writing to you.

I'm actually spending time trying to convey actual theology to you. It stems from countless pages of literature, reflections and teachings of scholars, clerics and monks that have studied the word and its meanings for two thousand years; not my own opinions. It's what the entire foundation of the Church is built on; it's how it establishes its doctrines.
All of this knowledge has been inscribed over the ages, and is cataloged even online. Resources are readily available to assist one who wishes to learn, at least a little bit, about what the Christian faith is about.

And yet, you sit here, completely ignorant and full of your predisposed assumptions, commanding the astounding arrogance that allows you to insinuate that I'm a mindless sheep following "excuses" so that I have a reason to "believe". Damn dude, that's pretty sad.

This is why modern atheism is a bastion for middlebrow intellectualism. It enables you to assert your own intellectual superiority whilst simultaneously dismissing all those who don't conform to your narrow-minded perceptions of the world and the nature of the universe.

Even if I ceased to believe; if I were presented with undeniable and empirical evidence that God doesn't exist, I would still carry the Christian banner. Why? Because although I can't know truly if God exists (that's what faith is for), I can know what virtues and values Christianity aspires to, and how the quest of discovering who and what we are is made nobler in its context.
Then again, I realize you know nothing of this, and prefer to sit there, angry at the world and presumably need a scapegoat to blame your troubles on. This outlook isn't one that promotes growth and insight... as you would rather solidify your prejudices and misconceptions in order to give some form of satisfaction to yourself.

Godspeed to you, friend. You're going to need it.

If it makes you feel better about answering questions, look up 1 Peter 3:15

Also, I'm not angry at the world- nor unread on the christian faith. I never said anything about my intellect being greater- I said that you were following excuses to believe. You took it as an insult, while I acknowledge that everyone has excuses for something, I simply don't have excuses for having a faith.

Maybe I'm not phrasing it well- but you seem to feel attacked and I'm only asking questions to see your response, since you're answering.

I don't feel better than you and I know that there are many people out there who are religious that are much more intelligent than I am.

It's great that you have been raised as a "positive christian", where at least a of the bullshit seems to be ignored and not talked about, or dismissed as "needing interpretation". But that's just it- how many times has it been interpenetrated, reworded, translated and so on? Many of those who study the "originals" come to a much darker conclusion about the faith than you present.

I simply disagree with the volume of dialog needed to translate a single sentence- where "turn the other cheek" was actually a phrase used to incite escalation, it is preached that it is about forgiveness or the appropriate meekness of a humble follower of jesus.

The entire religion makes no sense in it's own context- as it conflicts with itself many times. Even with the story of jesus's birth place.

What about all of the commandments. How many... 613?

These commandments include slavery, death penalties for apostasy, discrimination against women, discrimination against non-jewish (a good example is how some of the slavery laws differ for jew to non jew).

All of these things are included in the christian faith. How do you come to terms with following an ideology that encourages these things?

Unless I am mistaken, accord to the 'history' of Buddhism, it is not a real religion but rather a philosophy, but to clarify my statement a little more, there is no peaceful theistic religion that has survived and or flourished to present day( probably was at least a few throughout history but none have survived or have any real relevance in culture today.)

I believe Jainism, along with Sikhs, are nonviolent, and both are around today. Jainism has followers who wear filter masks to prevent from accidentally inhaling insects.

like you fear the government?

Probably not. Because he isn't an irrational three month old. Before you cite painful venom, I would like to cite my life ending boot and human saving medical treatments.

True story time, when I was really little, like 5 or so, I lived down in California in death valley, fun place full of snakes, scorpions, wolf spiders, fire ants and black widows, at some point down there I apparently brought my mother a half dead black widow, that was still moving some but didn't end up biting me, she freaked out but I was fine. Later on down the line while I was still like five, I woke up in the middle of the night while sleeping on our couch which had a coffee table in front of it, and there on the underside of the table not even 3 feet away was a young wolf spider, now you might think oh its a young one its small, but no even the young ones are bigger that your average hobo/brown recluse, scared the shit out of me( seeing as I was a young child), freaking out my dad of all people who was a marine, and it made an awful sound when it was squished under boot.

I have a rule for spiders, as long as they stay on the walls or ceiling and are not above me at any point, they are free to do what ever, if they get on my bed or chair or anything i'm on, or above me, or on my shower curtain, I will end them.

I also have a story. Like you my father is a retired Marine. But I also keep tarantulas. I find them interesting and I love them as a species. I got bitten by one my Theraphosa stirmi's ( one of the three "bird eater" spiders in Brazil) on the shoulder. Those inch long fangs did hurt like being stabbed, yet the pain from the venom wasn't too intense, after all I am a pretty big guy (for you). I am not denying that some of the smaller species have some seriously wicked venom. I'm saying that arachnids are not to be feared; but respected. They are not monsters, but creatures that have more advanced weaponry than other animals.

yeah I just joined my schools chess club and the leader tried using castling on me and we got into it because i never heard of it and so i went and had to look it up i honestly don't like it kinda feels like a cheap trick but also it does somewhat feel like a honest move still whooped his ass though though en passant i feel like i can take great advantage of that

Almost everything that's round and exist has been in someone's asshole. There's a good chance the balls inside the mouses (or mice?) have been in someone's ass in some ER somewhere.

well he had cancer anyway
the cancer was going to take him if the bullet didn't

it sure fucking helps tho.

i never even heard of en passant and i just barely heard of castling i still have no idea how it works either

its been awhile since I actually played chess so the rules are a bit fuzz, but if I remember right Castling is done when there is a clear line between the king and the king side rook( might be also queen side) and the king moves towards the rook two spaces and the rook moves to the otherside and next to the king, so long as the king is not in check or ends up in check.
En passant if I remember correctly can only be done when a pawn makes its first move and is a two space move to where the one pawn ends up side by side an opponent pawn, the opponent pawn then moves behind the paw that just moved, taking it in the process.

Both have their uses but when I did play actively it was rare anyone ever castled, and I was pretty much the only person that ever seemed to even know En passant was a thing, actually had to start carrying around a mini rule book to prove it was a real move.

yeah I just joined my schools chess club and the leader tried using castling on me and we got into it because i never heard of it and so i went and had to look it up i honestly don't like it kinda feels like a cheap trick but also it does somewhat feel like a honest move still whooped his ass though though en passant i feel like i can take great advantage of that

I know en passant and I'm terribly shit at chess

yaaa but we know how this shit works, being easy and having it are two different things, I mean shit look at FO4 and all the easy shit it needs, like being able to rotate things on the Y axis and not just on an X axis or hell do it on XY and Z.

>Acta Non Verba

Contacting EU representatives is pretty much what the average citizen can do. We can't realistically organize an armed uprising against the EU.

What other methods are you suggesting we look to?

It doesn't have to be an armed uprising, though if things keep going the way they do I wouldn't be surprised if there is one, seeing as how so many people seem to be unhappy over there with how things are going. I really can't say what you should do, I don't really know the mind sets of your politicals over there so I can't say which way would be best to 'hurt' them, but hey peaceful protest en mass usually gets attention, though can quickly turn horrible.

Ditto. When I first joined the brotherhood it was to get closer to Kellogg for revenge. They had the best armor and weapons. After they asked me to do that, I knew it wasn't what my wife would have wanted. I managed to resolve the situation without anyone dying, but it still felt wrong.

I realize it's just a game, but I get pretty into my role-playing in games like this.

Be a hero join the minutemen

Gun control has never been about safety! It has and will always be about control! If the citizens can be taught to bee good obedient slaves to the government then so much the better.

It's either that or a terrible knee-jerk reaction from politicians who don't know jack shit about firearms or terrorism!

Write to your EU representative if you live in the EU. It's now or never!

I'm American, Washington state specifically( the Grunge capital of the world). I know a lot of it has been about control, but there are people that, rather erroneously, believe they are doing it for the good of the people and politicians prey on these people because they do want control, though often times its more so the second option you listed and they are simply trying to garner support of the people.

I could write the EU, tons of people in the actual EU could write to it, it won't make much of a difference. People of the EU need to stand up for what they believe, not just write in, because a lot of those written complaints will largely be either ignored or throwing in the bin.

Acta Non Verba

>Acta Non Verba

Contacting EU representatives is pretty much what the average citizen can do. We can't realistically organize an armed uprising against the EU.

What other methods are you suggesting we look to?

It doesn't have to be an armed uprising, though if things keep going the way they do I wouldn't be surprised if there is one, seeing as how so many people seem to be unhappy over there with how things are going. I really can't say what you should do, I don't really know the mind sets of your politicals over there so I can't say which way would be best to 'hurt' them, but hey peaceful protest en mass usually gets attention, though can quickly turn horrible.

idk what sort of xmasses you spent. but up here in finland it has always been pretty fucking awesome.


still my favourite time of the year