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#32874 - No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenme…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32872 - tu ne viens pas ici pour me parler comme ça tabarnak  [+] (4 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32876 - jewishcommienazi has deleted their comment.
User avatar #32879 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
uhh, quebecois swear word

pretty much used like the word 'fuck'

but not like, i will fuck you, etc

it's this weird church thing, some kind of box like structure
#32880 - jewishcommienazi has deleted their comment.
User avatar #32882 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
I honestly have no idea aha
#32871 - individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. …  [+] (3 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32856 - Well, a first world country with proletariat already organized…  [+] (5 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #32857 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well if all you see are factories yeah we can do anything we want.

However the people in America have a long proud history of individualism and liberty.

That and we fuck up and use morality to serve really bad ideas
User avatar #32871 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. What makes you an individual is just an accumulation of products that don't actually represent you.

Individual rights are very communist, I should add.

And american 'liberty' is a joke. It has always been liberty for the rich.
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32855 - If that's what you want to do. Which should be, by th… 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32848 - Well it depends how you go about it. This whole idea …  [+] (7 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #32852 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Yeah.

I hate how many of them however see America as the red golden commie city in the sky. The best place for communism.
User avatar #32856 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well, a first world country with proletariat already organized in urban areas...

seems pretty ripe to me. The rest of the world needs to get like this first.
User avatar #32857 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well if all you see are factories yeah we can do anything we want.

However the people in America have a long proud history of individualism and liberty.

That and we fuck up and use morality to serve really bad ideas
User avatar #32871 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. What makes you an individual is just an accumulation of products that don't actually represent you.

Individual rights are very communist, I should add.

And american 'liberty' is a joke. It has always been liberty for the rich.
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32843 - "Left wing" and "Right wing" fall in line …  [+] (2 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32850 - valeriya (06/06/2013) [-]
I assume libertarian socialist then.
User avatar #32855 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
If that's what you want to do.

Which should be, by the way, the only way to interpret Marx. You know, without any Leninist perversions and made up theories.
#32836 - Well thats because a proper communist revolution hasn't happen…  [+] (9 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #32844 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Sucks don't it.

I am not going to argue when people work together there is peace but the means to get there are violent and insane often times
User avatar #32848 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well it depends how you go about it.

This whole idea that we have to MAKE REVOLUTION HAPPEN NOW goes against the theory of economic determinism and historical materialism. Che Guevara was a fucking idiot.

Forcing revolution in a country that does not have the material conditions necessary for socialism are going to fail. Socialism in one country is going to fail.
User avatar #32852 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Yeah.

I hate how many of them however see America as the red golden commie city in the sky. The best place for communism.
User avatar #32856 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well, a first world country with proletariat already organized in urban areas...

seems pretty ripe to me. The rest of the world needs to get like this first.
User avatar #32857 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well if all you see are factories yeah we can do anything we want.

However the people in America have a long proud history of individualism and liberty.

That and we fuck up and use morality to serve really bad ideas
User avatar #32871 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. What makes you an individual is just an accumulation of products that don't actually represent you.

Individual rights are very communist, I should add.

And american 'liberty' is a joke. It has always been liberty for the rich.
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32831 - Don't agglomerate "us" with the stalinists or the le…  [+] (11 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #32834 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Indeed but oftentimes the violence never ends after the revolution. Scars are too deep.
User avatar #32836 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well thats because a proper communist revolution hasn't happened

it was either stalinist in origin or was crushed by the stalinists.

Popular socialist movements are always gunned down.
User avatar #32844 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Sucks don't it.

I am not going to argue when people work together there is peace but the means to get there are violent and insane often times
User avatar #32848 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well it depends how you go about it.

This whole idea that we have to MAKE REVOLUTION HAPPEN NOW goes against the theory of economic determinism and historical materialism. Che Guevara was a fucking idiot.

Forcing revolution in a country that does not have the material conditions necessary for socialism are going to fail. Socialism in one country is going to fail.
User avatar #32852 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Yeah.

I hate how many of them however see America as the red golden commie city in the sky. The best place for communism.
User avatar #32856 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well, a first world country with proletariat already organized in urban areas...

seems pretty ripe to me. The rest of the world needs to get like this first.
User avatar #32857 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well if all you see are factories yeah we can do anything we want.

However the people in America have a long proud history of individualism and liberty.

That and we fuck up and use morality to serve really bad ideas
User avatar #32871 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. What makes you an individual is just an accumulation of products that don't actually represent you.

Individual rights are very communist, I should add.

And american 'liberty' is a joke. It has always been liberty for the rich.
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32830 - Again, because it was historically the one that existed, this …  [+] (1 new reply) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #32832 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Good point.
#32827 - in fact all of them do 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32826 - Most Marxists do, too  [+] (13 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #32829 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
If you guys could go communist peacefully and without the massive Stalinist state afterward more people could trust it.
User avatar #32831 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Don't agglomerate "us" with the stalinists or the leninists.

And being peaceful does not work because people can brush you off.

The united states of america was founded with violence. So was the french first republic. So I don't get your point.

Also, a bloodless revolution is somewhat possible. I mean, France in 1968, Tunisia, etc...

We've tried and we get beaten up or killed by the police anyways. It's a power struggle. You fight violence with violence.
User avatar #32834 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Indeed but oftentimes the violence never ends after the revolution. Scars are too deep.
User avatar #32836 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well thats because a proper communist revolution hasn't happened

it was either stalinist in origin or was crushed by the stalinists.

Popular socialist movements are always gunned down.
User avatar #32844 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Sucks don't it.

I am not going to argue when people work together there is peace but the means to get there are violent and insane often times
User avatar #32848 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well it depends how you go about it.

This whole idea that we have to MAKE REVOLUTION HAPPEN NOW goes against the theory of economic determinism and historical materialism. Che Guevara was a fucking idiot.

Forcing revolution in a country that does not have the material conditions necessary for socialism are going to fail. Socialism in one country is going to fail.
User avatar #32852 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Yeah.

I hate how many of them however see America as the red golden commie city in the sky. The best place for communism.
User avatar #32856 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well, a first world country with proletariat already organized in urban areas...

seems pretty ripe to me. The rest of the world needs to get like this first.
User avatar #32857 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well if all you see are factories yeah we can do anything we want.

However the people in America have a long proud history of individualism and liberty.

That and we fuck up and use morality to serve really bad ideas
User avatar #32871 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. What makes you an individual is just an accumulation of products that don't actually represent you.

Individual rights are very communist, I should add.

And american 'liberty' is a joke. It has always been liberty for the rich.
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32825 - Neither did capitalism People living UNDER capitalism…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #32828 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
I go with what system allowed that discovery to flourish.
User avatar #32830 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Again, because it was historically the one that existed, this is just like saying humans are better than dinosaurs because all the dinosaurs died.

It's not about what is better and what is not, its that capitalism is a necessary historical development that has a role in organizing the proletariat.
User avatar #32832 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Good point.
#32815 - Don't even bother with him, this guy is basically a Stalinist …  [+] (20 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32833 - valeriya (06/06/2013) [-]
So tell me then where do you fall into the left then.
User avatar #32843 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
"Left wing" and "Right wing" fall in line with ideologies. Ideologies are anti-marxist, they are old tools and are useless now.

I read a lot of the Situationist International, but 'situationism' isn't a thing, so...

I'm just a socialist. But I hate the word for what its associated with.
#32850 - valeriya (06/06/2013) [-]
I assume libertarian socialist then.
User avatar #32855 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
If that's what you want to do.

Which should be, by the way, the only way to interpret Marx. You know, without any Leninist perversions and made up theories.
User avatar #32824 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
He's pretty bad.

I mean most capitalist hate the whole "Stateless only after world domination thing" found with stalinism
User avatar #32827 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
in fact all of them do
User avatar #32826 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Most Marxists do, too
User avatar #32829 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
If you guys could go communist peacefully and without the massive Stalinist state afterward more people could trust it.
User avatar #32831 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Don't agglomerate "us" with the stalinists or the leninists.

And being peaceful does not work because people can brush you off.

The united states of america was founded with violence. So was the french first republic. So I don't get your point.

Also, a bloodless revolution is somewhat possible. I mean, France in 1968, Tunisia, etc...

We've tried and we get beaten up or killed by the police anyways. It's a power struggle. You fight violence with violence.
User avatar #32834 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Indeed but oftentimes the violence never ends after the revolution. Scars are too deep.
User avatar #32836 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well thats because a proper communist revolution hasn't happened

it was either stalinist in origin or was crushed by the stalinists.

Popular socialist movements are always gunned down.
User avatar #32844 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Sucks don't it.

I am not going to argue when people work together there is peace but the means to get there are violent and insane often times
User avatar #32848 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well it depends how you go about it.

This whole idea that we have to MAKE REVOLUTION HAPPEN NOW goes against the theory of economic determinism and historical materialism. Che Guevara was a fucking idiot.

Forcing revolution in a country that does not have the material conditions necessary for socialism are going to fail. Socialism in one country is going to fail.
User avatar #32852 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Yeah.

I hate how many of them however see America as the red golden commie city in the sky. The best place for communism.
User avatar #32856 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Well, a first world country with proletariat already organized in urban areas...

seems pretty ripe to me. The rest of the world needs to get like this first.
User avatar #32857 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well if all you see are factories yeah we can do anything we want.

However the people in America have a long proud history of individualism and liberty.

That and we fuck up and use morality to serve really bad ideas
User avatar #32871 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
individualism is a philosophical ideal that can be shot down. What makes you an individual is just an accumulation of products that don't actually represent you.

Individual rights are very communist, I should add.

And american 'liberty' is a joke. It has always been liberty for the rich.
User avatar #32873 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Recently yes its true but didn't use to be.

individual rights are always found in anarchy where communist or capitalist.

We would fuck it so hard and be the worse Stalinist ever.
User avatar #32874 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
No, it has always been like that. The whole age of enlightenment philosophy is built on a lie.

The ruling classes employ they lower ones. They don't liberate them.

People were persecuted for all sorts of things in pre-corporatist america.
User avatar #32875 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey it is never prefect but it we make the best we can from it.

And those who work for other work for the price people are willing to pay for their work. The less valuable the skills and the more people have those skill the less you are payed for them. Its a market force like everything. Which is why blue collar workers are making tons of cash now.
#32813 - According to lenin you ******** … 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32809 - They were state capitalist goons, friend filthy and s… 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
#32807 - According to Lenin. Why should we listen to him again…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
#32812 - valeriya (06/06/2013) [-]
Arisaka, you fucked up, communism is the ends socialism is the means they're different things.
User avatar #32813 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
According
to
lenin

you
fucktard

holy crap

marx used the words interchangeably

read more stalin and eat more pierogis motherfucker

this is why I am so sick of this board, now that all the right wing peeps are gone, all we're left with is kids who have discovered their left wing tendencies like children to get their first boners
#32805 - Because capitalism has occupied the entirety of modern history…  [+] (5 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #32820 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well in all the time communism and socialism was around they never made anything people wanted.
User avatar #32825 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Neither did capitalism

People living UNDER capitalism made stuff, sure. But it should also be noted that technological development is always recuperation of previous technology.

You fail to understand the basic sociological concept that society consists of individuals, not an abstracted uniform of people. Einstein was a socialist, you know. Could I say that the theory of relativity is a socialist discovery, and t hen therefore every single scientific discovery using the theory of relativity is just reusing a socialist work?

No, because that's stupid.
User avatar #32828 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
I go with what system allowed that discovery to flourish.
User avatar #32830 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Again, because it was historically the one that existed, this is just like saying humans are better than dinosaurs because all the dinosaurs died.

It's not about what is better and what is not, its that capitalism is a necessary historical development that has a role in organizing the proletariat.
User avatar #32832 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Good point.
#32803 - parties are dumb vouz etes les nationasistes rouge  [+] (6 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
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User avatar #32872 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
tu ne viens pas ici pour me parler comme ça tabarnak
#32876 - jewishcommienazi has deleted their comment.
User avatar #32879 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
uhh, quebecois swear word

pretty much used like the word 'fuck'

but not like, i will fuck you, etc

it's this weird church thing, some kind of box like structure
#32880 - jewishcommienazi has deleted their comment.
User avatar #32882 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
I honestly have no idea aha
#32798 - This argument is riddled with fallacies.  [+] (11 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +2
#32804 - anonymous (06/06/2013) [-]
those weren't arguments, they were statements
User avatar #32799 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
like?
User avatar #32806 - pebar (06/06/2013) [-]
they put the first man in space
just saying
User avatar #32818 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
V2 rockets stolen bfrom Germans
Radio stolen from Tesla
Etc.
User avatar #32809 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
They were state capitalist goons, friend

filthy and stinky goons.
User avatar #32805 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Because capitalism has occupied the entirety of modern history it is false to say "hurr look at what capitalism has given us hurr"

Society consists of individuals, not ideologies.
User avatar #32820 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Well in all the time communism and socialism was around they never made anything people wanted.
User avatar #32825 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Neither did capitalism

People living UNDER capitalism made stuff, sure. But it should also be noted that technological development is always recuperation of previous technology.

You fail to understand the basic sociological concept that society consists of individuals, not an abstracted uniform of people. Einstein was a socialist, you know. Could I say that the theory of relativity is a socialist discovery, and t hen therefore every single scientific discovery using the theory of relativity is just reusing a socialist work?

No, because that's stupid.
User avatar #32828 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
I go with what system allowed that discovery to flourish.
User avatar #32830 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
Again, because it was historically the one that existed, this is just like saying humans are better than dinosaurs because all the dinosaurs died.

It's not about what is better and what is not, its that capitalism is a necessary historical development that has a role in organizing the proletariat.
User avatar #32832 - undeadwill (06/06/2013) [-]
Good point.
#32795 - The differentiation between communism and socialism is a Lenin…  [+] (4 new replies) 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... 0
#32800 - jewishcommienazi has deleted their comment.
User avatar #32807 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
According to Lenin.

Why should we listen to him again?


Marx used the terms interchangeably.
#32812 - valeriya (06/06/2013) [-]
Arisaka, you fucked up, communism is the ends socialism is the means they're different things.
User avatar #32813 - arisaka (06/06/2013) [-]
According
to
lenin

you
fucktard

holy crap

marx used the words interchangeably

read more stalin and eat more pierogis motherfucker

this is why I am so sick of this board, now that all the right wing peeps are gone, all we're left with is kids who have discovered their left wing tendencies like children to get their first boners
#32794 - Being a Canadian, I enjoy nationalized health care very much. … 06/06/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
#255 - Or any other first world leader... 06/06/2013 on Gay marrige 0
#32128 - You're an oxymoron and oxan is an oxon-moron (HA). …  [+] (2 new replies) 06/05/2013 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #32191 - undeadwill (06/05/2013) [-]
That made me laugh.
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#103 - I'm canadian so I don't have to deal with this ********… 06/04/2013 on Bradley Manning +1
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#2 - anonymous (06/06/2013) [-]
Hey decided to take a couple ***** on your comments, don't really know why but enjoy.
User avatar #3 to #2 - arisaka (06/07/2013) [-]
thank you
User avatar #1 - airguitar (07/17/2012) [-]
First!! :D
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