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#99 - Does anyone know where in Northern Ireland that was taken? Loo…  [+] (1 new reply) 12/31/2013 on 20 Fascinating Photos 0
#101 - dragx (12/31/2013) [-]
Oh! Don't mind me, just calling the police.
#110 - You probably could read knightfall first but if it does overwh…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/22/2013 on Seven Man Of Steel Easter Eggs 0
User avatar #180 - ewowo (10/23/2013) [-]
I actually started and read through an entire volume in one night.

Needless to say, I am sufficiently overwhelmed.
#53 - I think the fact was just sorta vague and loose.  [+] (1 new reply) 05/03/2013 on Facts +2
#55 - awesomechardey (05/03/2013) [-]
thats the point
#47 - A computer replaced Jarvis when he quit  [+] (3 new replies) 05/03/2013 on Facts 0
#49 - awesomechardey (05/03/2013) [-]
Yeah, but the name Jarvis, still doesn't mean what the "fact" said. Btw this has never been said in one of the movies, either.
#53 - aquabeads (05/03/2013) [-]
I think the fact was just sorta vague and loose.
#55 - awesomechardey (05/03/2013) [-]
thats the point
#373 - Never had a good discussion on funnyjunk before, thanks. 09/08/2012 on true 0
#371 - And about costumes. Dredd is a perfect example of a good movie…  [+] (2 new replies) 09/08/2012 on true +1
#372 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
Okay,
so on this one we'll agree to disagree on that one point, everything else were good.
and I'll give you that on the green lantern movie, while I did like the movie, and I like Ryan Reynolds, he was not the best choice for Hal Jordan, he made an entertaining movie, but he also took away all of the seriousness, etc that comic Hal had, but he's another actor where it seems you either like him or you don't.
gotta say, that was a pretty cool discussion,
thanks man,
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#373 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
Never had a good discussion on funnyjunk before, thanks.
#370 - Ok, then. I agree with pretty much everything you said, though…  [+] (3 new replies) 09/08/2012 on true +1
#371 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
And about costumes. Dredd is a perfect example of a good movie costume. Good for the way the movie was doing dredd and good for comic fans
#372 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
Okay,
so on this one we'll agree to disagree on that one point, everything else were good.
and I'll give you that on the green lantern movie, while I did like the movie, and I like Ryan Reynolds, he was not the best choice for Hal Jordan, he made an entertaining movie, but he also took away all of the seriousness, etc that comic Hal had, but he's another actor where it seems you either like him or you don't.
gotta say, that was a pretty cool discussion,
thanks man,
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#373 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
Never had a good discussion on funnyjunk before, thanks.
#365 - I believe in not ******* with what's right. I jus…  [+] (7 new replies) 09/08/2012 on true +1
#368 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
on the note of lord of the rings
-"book 1" was actually released as two books originally, if you consider the author's original intent the true part 1 of book 1 would have made a full movie all on it's own and it actually lends to a perfect movie ending, a good cliffhanger that doesn't totally piss you off, then part two picks up a little bit after and goes on perfectly, just like we do with modern movies/stories today.
-the reason bombadil was left out was because the "Book" was too long to include him, sure, but they also left out most of part 1, which occured in the Shire, in fact about 3/4th of part 1 was the story of them leaving the shire, in the movie they left all of that out with the party exiting the shire about 10 minutes after having resigned to leave. he just wasn't thinking and tried to encompass what was meant to be two parts into one, he was ruined from the start.
-with comics you have artistic style, various plots and crossovers spanning decades, a plethora of preagreed upon cannon "facts" and lore, personality and the very essence of the character itself, his enemies, allies and surrounding characters each have such a thing as well, as well as his life as a normal person through his secret identity, which directors love to give a 180 for some reason,
-I'll give you this, many writers like to tweak a character to better suit them, I don't always like it, but sometimes it's really well done, but that's not a director's place, he is simply retelling the story in another medium, giving it life, if he picks one writer's "version" he should stick to one of that writer's plots. you can't say, "Ooh, i really like ditko's and stan lee's doctor strange, his personality is so cool, but I'm going to transplant that with a plot from when he was in the defenders, and he's going to wear that godawful mask-costume from when he had to change his identity to "stephen sanders" for his own protection and then add my own stuff. I just think that kind of stuff ruins it
#366 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
but what I'm saying is that the director's creative license comes in during the movement and effect of the movie, in daredevil it was the way he "saw" things, his movements, the flexibility and how they CGI'ed it, the scenes and shots, stuff like that are the director's but I strongly feel that the character is sacred, and for the most part his story should be, putting a modern twist on it is good so long as it preserves the feel and intent of the original, look at a Doctor Strange comic, or Silver Surfer comic, movies of those guys would leave so much up to the director as far as cosmic/magic/dimensional/space stuff goes, but the character's should be sacred, pick an origin story from the comics (whichever retcon is the director's favorite, more than likely should be the one with the most relevancy to the plot, it in Dr. Strange, shoosing the origin in which he has a brother (and later revives him as a vampire) is useless if that plot isn't going to be called upon, and the only reason I'm okay with the earlier Strange retconns is because Stan Lee had a hand in a few of them, and they all kept the integrity of the original, this is why I like the batman movie's origin, but hate the rest) and a plot from the comics and stick with it, you may add references here and there for the fans, and maybe more action, or comic relief, or a little bit of modernization but for the most part keep it true to the story. and there are plenty of plots that can be adapted to film, granted a small bit of tweaking is needed, but you can easily expand a short plot into a movie, or a larger plot, like the surfer's exile to earth, into a movie by boiling it down to it's core element, point is you don't have to make something up, you can stay true to story and character and still have a good movie.
#367 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
and before you say that the portrayal and "art" of the movie is no big deal, look at the dragonball or airbender movies, even if you fix the plot, and casting, you would still have movies that don't live up to their sources simply because of their artistic style/portrayal, I would consider the dragonball movie a worst case scenario for bad graphics/portrayal/artistic choice, whereas you look at the iron man movies, or green lantern, and I don't actually think that they were that bad, I thoroughly enjoyed them and felt that they followed the original plots and character origins pretty well, in my opinion they were good successes, the new amazing spiderman movie looks no different, it seems like on that movie they actually got writers who wanted to go full cannon with the script. and I think that's how it should be.
#370 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
Ok, then. I agree with pretty much everything you said, though i cant say much about last airbender or dragonball. I still don't like the idea of adapting a comic story i find it boring.
And Green Lantern was close to the comic but Ryan Renyonds was miscast, and the movie itself was bad.
#371 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
And about costumes. Dredd is a perfect example of a good movie costume. Good for the way the movie was doing dredd and good for comic fans
#372 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
Okay,
so on this one we'll agree to disagree on that one point, everything else were good.
and I'll give you that on the green lantern movie, while I did like the movie, and I like Ryan Reynolds, he was not the best choice for Hal Jordan, he made an entertaining movie, but he also took away all of the seriousness, etc that comic Hal had, but he's another actor where it seems you either like him or you don't.
gotta say, that was a pretty cool discussion,
thanks man,
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#373 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
Never had a good discussion on funnyjunk before, thanks.
#363 - I think with the Avengers out, there is a place for a comicier…  [+] (9 new replies) 09/08/2012 on true +1
#364 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
but I don't like when the artist takes a perfectly good character and twists it into their version, look at doctor strange the oath. it's a total bastardization of doctor strange, it changes the rules of his magic, and took his weaknesses and amplified them into a one time deus ex machina. a lot of comic writers take it too far too and screw up a descent story with their version of how they wish the hero was instead of how he really was. if the character has minor changes that's fine, but completely changing key aspects can't be done otherwise you have a spiderman who shoots organic webs and a batman dressed up like robocop. it's not the director's story, it's batman's story, it's been around longer than most of it's fans have even been alive, you don't take liberties on that, it's like movies about books, they're great...unless you've read the book. I liked lord of the rings until I read the books, not I just hate the movies for taking out tom bombadil. you know what I mean, filling in a plot hole or something minor is okay, but when you turn it into your own thing it's bad, anybody can make THEIR version of a story, it takes a badass to take that book, and make a movie that is exactly like how everyone pictured it in their heads, and all the while remaining true to the source. too many people like to reboot it into their own bastardized version.
#365 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
I believe in not fucking with what's right. I just find it boring seeing the same story on screen as iv already read in a comic. I think a film-maker should approach a comic book movie as they were beginning their comics run. Doing what they wish to do with the character whilst retaining the core aspects.

Adapting a book is different than adapting a comic. With Lord of the rings you have 1000 pages or so of story. With comic you only have a character. Say you have a Daredevil film, at the start DD is just like the character from the miller or Bendis stuff. But at the end of the film you change his character a bit, make him more of a pacifist or happier. Its no different than what Mark Waid has done.
#368 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
on the note of lord of the rings
-"book 1" was actually released as two books originally, if you consider the author's original intent the true part 1 of book 1 would have made a full movie all on it's own and it actually lends to a perfect movie ending, a good cliffhanger that doesn't totally piss you off, then part two picks up a little bit after and goes on perfectly, just like we do with modern movies/stories today.
-the reason bombadil was left out was because the "Book" was too long to include him, sure, but they also left out most of part 1, which occured in the Shire, in fact about 3/4th of part 1 was the story of them leaving the shire, in the movie they left all of that out with the party exiting the shire about 10 minutes after having resigned to leave. he just wasn't thinking and tried to encompass what was meant to be two parts into one, he was ruined from the start.
-with comics you have artistic style, various plots and crossovers spanning decades, a plethora of preagreed upon cannon "facts" and lore, personality and the very essence of the character itself, his enemies, allies and surrounding characters each have such a thing as well, as well as his life as a normal person through his secret identity, which directors love to give a 180 for some reason,
-I'll give you this, many writers like to tweak a character to better suit them, I don't always like it, but sometimes it's really well done, but that's not a director's place, he is simply retelling the story in another medium, giving it life, if he picks one writer's "version" he should stick to one of that writer's plots. you can't say, "Ooh, i really like ditko's and stan lee's doctor strange, his personality is so cool, but I'm going to transplant that with a plot from when he was in the defenders, and he's going to wear that godawful mask-costume from when he had to change his identity to "stephen sanders" for his own protection and then add my own stuff. I just think that kind of stuff ruins it
#366 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
but what I'm saying is that the director's creative license comes in during the movement and effect of the movie, in daredevil it was the way he "saw" things, his movements, the flexibility and how they CGI'ed it, the scenes and shots, stuff like that are the director's but I strongly feel that the character is sacred, and for the most part his story should be, putting a modern twist on it is good so long as it preserves the feel and intent of the original, look at a Doctor Strange comic, or Silver Surfer comic, movies of those guys would leave so much up to the director as far as cosmic/magic/dimensional/space stuff goes, but the character's should be sacred, pick an origin story from the comics (whichever retcon is the director's favorite, more than likely should be the one with the most relevancy to the plot, it in Dr. Strange, shoosing the origin in which he has a brother (and later revives him as a vampire) is useless if that plot isn't going to be called upon, and the only reason I'm okay with the earlier Strange retconns is because Stan Lee had a hand in a few of them, and they all kept the integrity of the original, this is why I like the batman movie's origin, but hate the rest) and a plot from the comics and stick with it, you may add references here and there for the fans, and maybe more action, or comic relief, or a little bit of modernization but for the most part keep it true to the story. and there are plenty of plots that can be adapted to film, granted a small bit of tweaking is needed, but you can easily expand a short plot into a movie, or a larger plot, like the surfer's exile to earth, into a movie by boiling it down to it's core element, point is you don't have to make something up, you can stay true to story and character and still have a good movie.
#367 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
and before you say that the portrayal and "art" of the movie is no big deal, look at the dragonball or airbender movies, even if you fix the plot, and casting, you would still have movies that don't live up to their sources simply because of their artistic style/portrayal, I would consider the dragonball movie a worst case scenario for bad graphics/portrayal/artistic choice, whereas you look at the iron man movies, or green lantern, and I don't actually think that they were that bad, I thoroughly enjoyed them and felt that they followed the original plots and character origins pretty well, in my opinion they were good successes, the new amazing spiderman movie looks no different, it seems like on that movie they actually got writers who wanted to go full cannon with the script. and I think that's how it should be.
#370 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
Ok, then. I agree with pretty much everything you said, though i cant say much about last airbender or dragonball. I still don't like the idea of adapting a comic story i find it boring.
And Green Lantern was close to the comic but Ryan Renyonds was miscast, and the movie itself was bad.
#371 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
And about costumes. Dredd is a perfect example of a good movie costume. Good for the way the movie was doing dredd and good for comic fans
#372 - harleyzone (09/08/2012) [-]
Okay,
so on this one we'll agree to disagree on that one point, everything else were good.
and I'll give you that on the green lantern movie, while I did like the movie, and I like Ryan Reynolds, he was not the best choice for Hal Jordan, he made an entertaining movie, but he also took away all of the seriousness, etc that comic Hal had, but he's another actor where it seems you either like him or you don't.
gotta say, that was a pretty cool discussion,
thanks man,
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#373 - aquabeads (09/08/2012) [-]
Never had a good discussion on funnyjunk before, thanks.
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