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#177 - aangbingo (12/16/2014) [-]
More like the sound of your ego inflating to godlike proportions.
Kindly stay in your ignorant moral-fag bubble and yell at people online for "harming" animals even though it serves a greater purpose than your shitstain little existence that will never amount to anything beyond fapping into a sock.
#181 - angelusprimus (12/16/2014) [-]
If that's all you were saying then I agree with you.
Animals for medical research should be kept as comfortable and given as much kindness and humane treatement as possible.
But unfortunately animal testing IS unavoidable, and necessary for now. Maybe some day we will have better choices, and switch to them, but right now we do not.
#182 - aldkai (12/16/2014) [-]
There's simply no need to be hypocrites about this. How can I actually enjoy the treatment AND call this an achievement if I know that nobody ever recognized the suffering that the experimentation has brought? The test animals give more than their life to me,they suffer. We all only have one life,but so do they,and we consciously make it so that it is wasted for them,lived in pain,so ours will be extended. Is that really a fair trade? I've heard countless stories,coming from places as respected as Oxford University,about how neglected the animals were;and not just neglected,some people purposedly made it worse! As if what we were doing wasn't bad enough,they decided that they could just brutalize them even further,to cite the reports "kicks and rough handlings". Sheer gratuitous violence? No wonder why all this happens. It's because these people never had any understanding of actual compassion. They're unable to have any.
And the last nail in the coffin? The next generation is no better. I'm litterally assaulted by senseless idiots calling me a "moralfag",whenever I raise my voice,because I'm able to feel empathy. They want to prove me that morality doesn't matter when it gets to saving their own asses. Maybe their asses aren't worth saving if they chose to behave like this then. Nothing could really prove that we actually deserve these drugs and treatments,in fact,we've never ever been thankful for them;but we've never let the test victims a choice. So yes,the moral thing to do would be to not take these treatments,but letting these go to waste would be making all the pain they've had ultimately be in vain;also,we can't be hypocrites and say that we aren't happy to be cured.
But I want everyone to learn that the only reason why we would experiment on animals and never on humans,is that other humans could make us feel ashamed of ourselves;because we are so alike than we can easily understand,and share compassion,wether we want it or not.
#183 - angelusprimus (12/16/2014) [-]
We do experiment on humans, you know.
That's the third stage. First stage is on tissues, second on animals and third is on humans. And then there are clinical trials which are again on humans.
I do think that animals in test trials should be treated as well as possible, and as kind as possible. But I'd happily let thousand dogs die to save one little human child's life, wouldn't want them to suffer needlessly, but their lives and NOT equal to human. And if you think animal lives are equal to human's then there is something seriously wrong with you.
#184 - aldkai (12/16/2014) [-]
No,what's wrong is with you. You think you're superior over other things because you only think of yourself. You call those that don't sick people and that's nonsense. I understand my place in the universe and I'm not a prideful person like you,does this get you mad? The flaws of your logic shows when you think that saying "we do experiment on humans" means anything. We don't experiment on humans like we experiment on animals. Human test subjects are volunteers and animals are not;can't you even admit that? Humans are tested upon when it's relatively safe and animals are experimented on whenever it pleases. Humans are treated humanly and animals are treated like garbage,and it's wrong,and it's the fault of people like you who put both their pride and fear of death above their morality. It's logical to say that you aren't smart if you got a big brain but you don't use it;well,it's the same to say that you aren't living if you got sapiency but never use it to act like if you did. You're closer to a rock than a human if you don't have compassion,because a rock doesn't have emotions; so you don't have a life to save. If you think "human lives" are more "lifely" than "dog lives" then a dog actually displays more actual sapiency than you,because they clearly show how much they are able to value anyone's life even through the intelligence and language barrier.
But you know,this is the same logic than those that say that X humans are more human than Y humans;and did it end well for them? They just proved they themselves were less deserving of the title,AND it's now proved they are wrong. But I don't expect you to admit that you're just making up a morality that will agree with your egocentric concerns;not because it's right but because it's more comfortable to you. Well,we aren't all afraid of death,or confronting with reality. I looked deep into an animal's eyes and I found out that pain is a universal language;so is happiness.
#186 - aldkai (12/16/2014) [-]
Pathetic. Look how your true mentality shows. Violence,threats,insults,anger;that's all what you're about? Really,you're a rock. Only good to bash things. You've been given the unique chance to have the highest sapiency potential of maybe the entire galaxy,and you use it to act like a primitive. Why don't you try to build something in your life for a change? Or care about someone more than you? Maybe you'll realize that only one thing cannot be built back once it's broken. People with your attitude aren't worth spending anything's life on.
#187 - angelusprimus (12/16/2014) [-]
Ok, you want a better response you ignorant child? Sure.
I am disgusted by your idea of morality. I think its sick, ignorant and immoral.
Dogs do not have sapience. Sapience is defined as wisdom, or the ability of an organism or entity to act with appropriate judgement, a mental faculty which is a component of intelligence. Its the higher form of judgement making, which animals don't have. That's why animals are not legally responsible for their own actions. Which is why we don't arrest dogs for having sex in public.
What you were talking about is sentience, and its a completely different thing.
I didn't make any threats. If you read threats in my response then you need some strong therapy because you suffer from prosecution complex.
You keep using big words wrong, and it doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look sad.
As far as me building something? What have you done in your life? I donate my time and money to quite a few charities, including soup kitchen and animal shelter. I have adopted four cats, old unwanted cats that were facing death since no one wanted them. Acting human and humane is a good thing and I try to live according to good moral guidelines.
People like you have a messed up sense of morality and priority. "All life is sacred". Sure. And I am disgusted by torture and brutality animals go through as much as any man. But I will never place animal life over human. You think that's wrong and I'm being selfish? Go ahead. But your idea of morality sickens me. Children in 2/3 of the world die every day from horrible diseases, in horrible pain, in horrible conditions. I will always think of THEM ahead of animals.
And your idea that that is wrong, that's what I find abhorrent. I care for many things more then me. I'd die for my family or my friends. I'd gladly die to save a child's life. But I wouldn't die for an animal.
#188 - aldkai (12/16/2014) [-]
You are terribly short-sighted;go try and strangle a thousand puppies if that makes you happy. Don't act surprised however when someone like me punches you in the gut to prevent it,because if you wouldn't try to understand life we are not going to make concessions for you. For now,you can try to insult and belittle me all you want,because I have proved that I'm right so it doesn't really matter to me. Through experience I have learnt to close myself to hate and negativity,so your anger will not affect me. It will not bring me down,it will not make me doubtful,or uneasy,or provocate a reaction;in essence,it will effectively just bounce right back at you because you are the only one harming yourself with all that angst. Believe it or not. I'm kind enough to tell you so maybe you'd realize that hate itself is a very useless feeling. You know,by getting rid of emotions in your judgement,only reason remain. That's what I did when I let go of fear and I saw that if you take away the fear of death,then you realize lives are all worth the same. We are prompted to take bad decisions because of the fear of what might and what will. Nobody would question the worth of animal lives if people would not fear death.
But maybe you also lack education;education is the ability to process knowledge in the logic way. I am sure you have enough knowledge to explain why are there so many kids dying today,and what is the real reason so many people are exposed to diseases. You want to sacrifice so you can save but you could easily prevent with everyone winning from the arrangement. All it would take is people setting their hatred aside. They would have to let go of their pride,their anger,and their greed... This itself would be a good thing. Why not do that? Because they don't think like me. They think like you. They think the closer a thing is to their person,the more it's worth in the world.
#189 - angelusprimus (12/16/2014) [-]
God you keep doing it, using words wrong.
Education is not ability to process knowledge, education is the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction.
You are the worst kind of ignorant person, self satisfied ignorant who thinks they already know things so instead of EDUCATING they go around preaching.
You didn't win, you didn't prove anything except that you are incapable of understanding what people are telling you.
When I said I'd strangle those dogs, I didn't actually mean I'd go and strangle some poor dogs. I was using something called analogy, to describe my valuing lives of children vs. lives of dogs. Its a common conversation technique, and it takes a fairly low intelligence person to take it literally.
I am not afraid of death. That is you applying your own belief on me, without actually having any data to support your claim. I believe that human life is more important because humans can reason. Every human has an unlimited potential. Doesn't matter if its a child born in heart of africa, or someone from Manhattan, every human have an unlimited potential. Dog can be a good dog, but it will never measure.
And yes. I want to sacrifice animal lives to save those children. Because I live in an actual real world and deal with actual real problems. I look into eyes of an actual homeless child when I hand them their dinner and I don't talk to them about how nice it would be if everyone was nice. I help them how I can.
And even in a perfect world, disease would still exist. Cancer would still exist. Autoimmune diseases would still exist. And we would still need test subjects to treat them. And only monsters would let human beings suffer and die to save dogs. Doesn't matter how prettily you wrap it up, you are a monster.
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