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|#34 - I'm no mathematician, but the way I see it is that 1… [+] (30 new replies)||07/09/2015 on meth||0|
#61 - mathmanchris (07/09/2015) [-]
I'll try to spare you the maths blabla and keep it simple :
First of all, there are indeed infinities bigger than other infinities This fact alone made Georg Cantor, father of modern set theory, go crazy. He eventually killed himself in an asylum. . How can one tell if a given infinity is bigger? We want to find a bijective function a function that maps elements "one-to-one" from one set (bananas) to the other (monkeys), if we can do that, we proved that those set are equally big in case of infinite sets we say that they have the same Aleph number . Look at the pic noschool posted, this is exactly what we need to do, this assignement of bananas is indeed bijective (because we can tell what monkey has what banana and vice versa) and consistent and therefore we proved it.
Same thing for the set of rational number. Eventhough there is an infinite amount of rational numbers between 1 and 0, the sets of rational and natural numbers are equally big This is how it's done: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diagonal_argument.svg The idea itself comes from Cantor and is called the Cantor Diagonalisation.. We call those infinities "countable infinities" there are also uncountable infinities, but those will give you severe headaches .
By the way, infinities don't really happen, it's a purely mathematical concept. In this case, the infinite amount of monkeys and bananas are given and you try to deal with these assumptions. In nature, this isn't normal, but in maths, it is =)
#44 - schindewolforch (07/09/2015) [-]
you're conclusion isn't necessarily right or wrong, I'm not qualified to answer that, but what you said in number 2 isn't the full explanation. Some infinities are greater than other infinities. What you explained is some accelerating faster or at least just increasing at a different slope, which is a good example, but I'd like to point out that there the amount of numbers between 1 and 2 is infinite, 1.1, 1.01, 1.001, 1.0001. ... but that infinity will always be less than 2 where as the standard infinity, as in from -infinity to +infinity will always be bigger than the infinite stream of numbers between 1 and 2.
#47 - alltimetens (07/09/2015) [-]
Yes, but when we say that "this infinity is greater than this infinity" isn't the same concept as "five is greater than 2."
Infinities are, for all intents & purposes, the same size. Because no matter what, all infinities abide by the concept of never ending.
When we say that infinity A is greater than infinity B, what we really mean is that infinity A advances at a greater rate than infinity B.
In the monkey/banana scenario, both the monkeys AND the bananas were infinite. Meaning that both of them are intrinsically equal to each other. However, at any given point, there will be twice as many bananas as monkeys simply because the bananas increase at a 2:1 ratio.
#54 - schindewolforch (07/09/2015) [-]
if you think on a number line, the distance between one and 2 represetns all numbers between one and 2. If you look at that same number line but look left and then look right, You'll see the alpha infinity (i have no idea what the fuck to call this so sorry for such a cliche name) is bigger than that segment and actually INCLUDES that segment. It can objectively be seen as bigger.
#55 - alltimetens (07/09/2015) [-]
I'm still not getting it.
Infinities can't be conventionally "bigger" than one another. They only excel at faster rates.
All infinities abide by the same principle of unbounded continuity. So if all infinities are... well... infinite, then they technically yield the same value in terms of quantity.
#56 - schindewolforch (07/09/2015) [-]
take a back and think: The amount of numbers between 1 and 2 is part of all the numbers that exist.
if you can see that, you can see how all the numbers that exist must be bigger than all the numbers between 1 and 2, because all the numbers that exist are all the numbers between 1 and 2 + more
#70 - alltimetens (07/09/2015) [-]
Like I said, normally, that rule would apply to finite numbers.
But infinite sequences don't have to follow that rule because at the end of the day, both numbers are infinite.
1.01, 1.001, 1.0001, etc.
I can literally make an infinite sequence out of just the 1.01 by adding another zero. That's an infinity within an infinity.
#73 - alltimetens (07/10/2015) [-]
In the real world, you only need the first 10 or so decimal places to be "exact" for all intents and purposes.
But that doesn't mean that, in the mathematical sense, 1.00000000000000000000000000001 is negligible. It is still a number, and it is still a part of the infinite series that connects 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 4, etc.
#37 - noschool (07/09/2015) [-]
#38 - alltimetens (07/09/2015) [-]
But there's still one problem, though.
This isn't the same as having 10 bananas and 5 monkeys.
10 bananas and 5 monkeys can all exist at the same time.
However, there is no such thing as an infinite amount of anything that simply "exists."
Infinity implies that the quantity keeps increasing. So one banana and two monkeys will have to keep popping into existence in order to stay "infinite."
And since there are two bananas popping into existence for every monkey that pops into existence, the two will never balance out, meaning that there can never be an instance in which there is one banana per monkey.
#40 - noschool (07/09/2015) [-]
it isn't like this necessity that for every monkey 2 bananas pop into existence, because nothing is popping into existence. there are an infinite number of bananas and monkeys. infinity doesn't imply that the quantity keeps increasing, i've never heard infinity described like that. the picture says there are an infinite number of monkeys and that each one has 2 bananas so their is an infinite number of bananas, honestly it doesn't matter how many bananas each monkey has there will still be an infinite number of bananas. there are two sels an infinite number of bananas and infinite number of monkeys and they are both the same type of infinity, countable infinity. because both sets are countable you can just pair them up. plus the way i did it treated the bananas like the set of integers and the monkeys like the set of whole numbers, both sets are countable infinities.
#41 - alltimetens (07/09/2015) [-]
You need to have a continuous stream of matter popping into existence in order to create an "infinity" of said matter.
This is because infinity cannot just simply "exist" all at once. Infinity is not a number. It is simply the concept of an indefinite increasing stream of numbers.
Yes, there would be an infinite number of monkeys AND bananas, but there would be two bananas popping into existence for every one monkey.
As I've said before, infinity is not a number, and you simply cannot have an infinite number of bananas/monkeys standing in a line all at once. There needs to be a continuous stream.
#42 - noschool (07/09/2015) [-]
it is because infinity isn't a number that you can do this. i don't get why you are talking about this need for a "continuous stream of matter popping into existence" because infinity is all theoretical. yes we realistically can't do this, but theoretically if we lined up an infinite number of monkeys and an infinite number of bananas we can pair them up so every monkey gets one banana. just like we can line up a set of every positive number and a set of every positive and negative number and pair them up. infinity doesn't grow, it doesn't do anything, infinity just is.
#48 - noschool (07/09/2015) [-]
because that isn't theoretically, you keep trying to tie infinity to realism and you can't do that. if i say Set A contains an infinite number of dashes, you can't just add one more that isn't how it works, infinity isn't this large number that you can add one two, it is a concept. there just is a set that contains an infinite number of monkeys and a set with an infinite number of bananas, both sets are countably Infinite so they can paired like i described. i don't get why you are arguing against this point, it took great minds decades to wrap their heads around infinity and you come out with "I'm no mathematician but let me tell you how i think this complex concept works."
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#146 - darknak (07/08/2015) [-]
I'm not talking about the whole muslim culture, just them. Their parents just want her to date muslims because it would not be seen well if she doesn't follow the religion too, or something similar. Yes they don't like "dating" but it's a lot worse for them that i'm not muslim
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#102 - sparkyoneonetwo (07/07/2015) [-]
#107 - tck (07/07/2015) [-]
I have a straight friend who has the "faggot accent" because he grew up with four sisters (no brothers) and a father figure who wasn't around much. I would say that people who grow up in situations are more likely to end up feeling gay as they age, and also develop a more feminine tone/inflection. So I don't think that being gay causes that voice or that gay people who talk like that are doing it on purpose (although I know some probably do) I just think that being gay and having that type of voice are caused by similar conditions in many cases and it's a coincidence.
Just my two cents.
#113 - sparkyoneonetwo (07/07/2015) [-]
Damn near every gay dude I ever knew who talked with that accent did it purely because they thought it was cute or some dumb shit like that.
Shits annoying as fuck. Maybe some people don't chose to talk that way and maybe I'm being intolerant or an asshole or some shit like that but if someone talks like that around me it annoys the fuck out of me so bad that I can't be around that person with out it frustrating me.
I'm gay as fuck but I'd fuck 200 chicks before sitting though a 10 minute conversion with someone that talks like that.
#117 - tck (07/07/2015) [-]
I mean, we openly make fun of the guy for it and call him gay whenever the opportunity arises. He just doesn't know how to speak any other way. He's feminine in other ways too but he's never been tempted to "identify" as a girl and he's even anti-transgender. So there are just some cases where it genuinely means nothing.
#108 - alltimetens (07/07/2015) [-]
It is still annoying as fuck.
Unless you have some sort of mental disorder/speech impediment, you need to kill yourself.
Not even normal girls speak like that. I would know, because I myself have 5 sisters, and a dad who was always working when up until I turned 11-12.
They just want to become girls. They WANT to be feminine. Being attracted to men isn't something you can control. Speaking like a faggot, however, is.