mouth?

I guess that means I'm going to be KKKilled

Don't even try to cross my path or I'll burn you.

And take off those ridiculous costumes and I'll show you some REAL ghosts

ZEECROW BLENFAHG FUCKDUDE

I... CANT... STOP LAUGHING. OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK!?

i pretty much said the same thing to him a few posts back

No I can't. I have a boyfriend for a reason.

Still mad. At least I don't repost. =]

i dont, but theres pretty conclusive evidence on how the world manifested and practically zero evidence of a deity

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Highly recommend you watch this video.

you speak as if you know what he did as if its fact. i personally dont think what you said has any creditable value

And you speak as if you know how the universe was created.

i dont, but theres pretty conclusive evidence on how the world manifested and practically zero evidence of a deity

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Highly recommend you watch this video.

Are they really now?

So going by your logic. i could say that. the early particles which expanded to make the universe were in a realm of their own were laws of physics didnt work like how it does inside the universe. the act of the expansion is what caused the laws of cause and effect.

and if a god DID create the universe then there is a close to zero chance that it created the earth. its pretty much solid science that the earth was formed a few billion years after the sun when dust particles were attracted to the largest gravitiational mass and after a few billion years the gravitational mass resembled early earth. and then spacial objects collided with the earth one after another. forming volcanoes etc. which aided in creating an atmosphere and after some chemical reactions early plant life released oxygen through photosynthesis and then animal life was able to manifest.

You imagine God creating the Earth as him snapping his fingers and a giant rock forming out of nowhere. He created the universe, then he set the laws in place, such as gravity. Therefore, he INDIRECTLY created Earth.

you speak as if you know what he did as if its fact. i personally dont think what you said has any creditable value

And you speak as if you know how the universe was created.

i dont, but theres pretty conclusive evidence on how the world manifested and practically zero evidence of a deity

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Highly recommend you watch this video.

so thats your reason. something had to create, it. a god. then what created the god? and if your reason is "the god is eternal" then why the fuck cant the unverse be eternal?

That's the most perfect argument for atheism I've ever heard.

cant tell if compliment or insult.

sorry im slightly aspergic today

Compliment. I'm Christian (as you probably know all too well from our previous conversations) so I'm legitimately impressed with that argument.

ahh, well thank you good sir

You're very welcome my good man.

God lives in a world were the laws of cause and effect don't apply.

So going by your logic. i could say that. the early particles which expanded to make the universe were in a realm of their own were laws of physics didnt work like how it does inside the universe. the act of the expansion is what caused the laws of cause and effect.

and if a god DID create the universe then there is a close to zero chance that it created the earth. its pretty much solid science that the earth was formed a few billion years after the sun when dust particles were attracted to the largest gravitiational mass and after a few billion years the gravitational mass resembled early earth. and then spacial objects collided with the earth one after another. forming volcanoes etc. which aided in creating an atmosphere and after some chemical reactions early plant life released oxygen through photosynthesis and then animal life was able to manifest.

You imagine God creating the Earth as him snapping his fingers and a giant rock forming out of nowhere. He created the universe, then he set the laws in place, such as gravity. Therefore, he INDIRECTLY created Earth.

you speak as if you know what he did as if its fact. i personally dont think what you said has any creditable value

And you speak as if you know how the universe was created.

i dont, but theres pretty conclusive evidence on how the world manifested and practically zero evidence of a deity

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Highly recommend you watch this video.

If you're going to say Christianity is retarded you have to say the other two are, they're basically the same religion just with different rituals and still full of morons.

Nope. Christianity has been rewritten, changed, and distorted. They can't even agree with themselves, which is why they are so divided. Meanwhile, Islam/Judaism are composed of one group.

Are they really now?

They're all the same god, you know. Those 3 religions believe in the same god. and why does their HAVE to be a god?

Because the universe isn't eternal. Something had to create it. It's not like a singularity popped out of nowhere.

so thats your reason. something had to create, it. a god. then what created the god? and if your reason is "the god is eternal" then why the fuck cant the unverse be eternal?

That's the most perfect argument for atheism I've ever heard.

cant tell if compliment or insult.

sorry im slightly aspergic today

Compliment. I'm Christian (as you probably know all too well from our previous conversations) so I'm legitimately impressed with that argument.

ahh, well thank you good sir

You're very welcome my good man.

God lives in a world were the laws of cause and effect don't apply.

So going by your logic. i could say that. the early particles which expanded to make the universe were in a realm of their own were laws of physics didnt work like how it does inside the universe. the act of the expansion is what caused the laws of cause and effect.

and if a god DID create the universe then there is a close to zero chance that it created the earth. its pretty much solid science that the earth was formed a few billion years after the sun when dust particles were attracted to the largest gravitiational mass and after a few billion years the gravitational mass resembled early earth. and then spacial objects collided with the earth one after another. forming volcanoes etc. which aided in creating an atmosphere and after some chemical reactions early plant life released oxygen through photosynthesis and then animal life was able to manifest.

You imagine God creating the Earth as him snapping his fingers and a giant rock forming out of nowhere. He created the universe, then he set the laws in place, such as gravity. Therefore, he INDIRECTLY created Earth.

you speak as if you know what he did as if its fact. i personally dont think what you said has any creditable value

And you speak as if you know how the universe was created.

i dont, but theres pretty conclusive evidence on how the world manifested and practically zero evidence of a deity

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Highly recommend you watch this video.

(post 1)

1.) Yes it is the religions fault, IF it is not taken 100% literal. If it is taken literally and it doesn't specify the persons actions as just and moral, then no it doesn't. (Also there are mainstream religions promoting murder, all 3 abrahamic ones. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam)

2.) No, I know which quote you are talking about and Stephen Hawking is talking about using the information we know to look for a natural cause, he is also pushing his ideas of quantum mechanics into the mix because he personally feels it may be the key. HOWEVER, he doesn't claim it absolutely is quantum mechanics, he still is looking for evidence to prove it is, or maybe prove it couldn't possibly it. A creator is not logical because you are assuming a premise without proving it.

3.) And god could be a misinterpretation for the unknown and not actually mean an omniscient omnipotent being.

4.) Noone uses actual faith for anything. Faith in religion is believing in something with no hard evidence of such, otherwise, it wouldn't be needed. Noone uses this for anything else, everything else we decide and make judgement from have evidence to support our decision either in the positive or the negative. The popular example by theists is "You have faith tomorrow will come even though you don't really know until you wake up". I have the workings of the solar system, the evidence of past days, observance of the sun and moon, scales of times, etc etc etc. These are all evidence.

5.) I quote him because he is a very intelligent individual when it comes to matters of science, he provides evidence to his claims, and has research to back them up. Theists have Ray Comfort and his atheist demolishing banana. Also the universe does have the possibility to "create itself" if Quantum mechanics is proven correct in certain areas.
"Everything has to have a beginning"
But you don't know that, we have never seen anything begin the way the universe did.

(post 2)

6.) Because we have no evidence for it. Believing so without it would be ignorant.

7.) Yes Islam has brought peace, mind re-looking at how the middle east is currently? It's not all that peaceful. Also religion does not TEACH ethics it FORCES them. If someone finds rape wrong they will not do it with or without religion, if someone is not raping others simply because they think they will be punished (something that doesn't seem to stop many people in the middle east I might add) then what has been accomplished? They haven't learned anything, they are simply beaten into submission and never taught why it is wrong. Not to mention many religions used to enforce things we find amoral today.

8.)
"Prove that there isn't"
I'm not making that claim. I'm saying we don't believe in things without evidence, not that there is no god. You have to prove that god.

"What exactly did the universe come from?"
I don't know, noone does yet. We are researching and gathering evidence, as we should. Until then we should make no claims on where it did.

" I find it hard to believe that a "singularity" popped up out of nowhere"
Please actually research the big bang before making a comment about it. I honestly hate this, you say it's ridiculous and you can't think of it possibly happening, when you don't even understand the basic fucking mechanics of the big bang. It doesn't say it "Popped out of nowhere" we say we don't know what happened before because we have yet to be able to see past that singularity. The big bang does not talk about the creation of the universe only it's formation.
Study the damn subject before giving an opinion, otherwise your opinion is worthless.

9.) I'm saying it's ridiculous to attribute the good acts of people to the religion itself. There is not one good thing a religion person can do that an atheist can't do that is specific to their religion.

10.) That sucks I guess? There are many intolerant theists, it happens.

when you said god. i thought you were talking about the abrahamic god (Jewish, Christian, Islam)

If you want to talk about other gods could you please say a god or a diety not simply god

The Islamic/Jewish god is okay. Christianity is fucking retarded. There has to be a god nonetheless.

If you're going to say Christianity is retarded you have to say the other two are, they're basically the same religion just with different rituals and still full of morons.

Nope. Christianity has been rewritten, changed, and distorted. They can't even agree with themselves, which is why they are so divided. Meanwhile, Islam/Judaism are composed of one group.

Are they really now?

They're all the same god, you know. Those 3 religions believe in the same god. and why does their HAVE to be a god?

Because the universe isn't eternal. Something had to create it. It's not like a singularity popped out of nowhere.

so thats your reason. something had to create, it. a god. then what created the god? and if your reason is "the god is eternal" then why the fuck cant the unverse be eternal?

That's the most perfect argument for atheism I've ever heard.

cant tell if compliment or insult.

sorry im slightly aspergic today

Compliment. I'm Christian (as you probably know all too well from our previous conversations) so I'm legitimately impressed with that argument.

ahh, well thank you good sir

You're very welcome my good man.

God lives in a world were the laws of cause and effect don't apply.

So going by your logic. i could say that. the early particles which expanded to make the universe were in a realm of their own were laws of physics didnt work like how it does inside the universe. the act of the expansion is what caused the laws of cause and effect.

and if a god DID create the universe then there is a close to zero chance that it created the earth. its pretty much solid science that the earth was formed a few billion years after the sun when dust particles were attracted to the largest gravitiational mass and after a few billion years the gravitational mass resembled early earth. and then spacial objects collided with the earth one after another. forming volcanoes etc. which aided in creating an atmosphere and after some chemical reactions early plant life released oxygen through photosynthesis and then animal life was able to manifest.

You imagine God creating the Earth as him snapping his fingers and a giant rock forming out of nowhere. He created the universe, then he set the laws in place, such as gravity. Therefore, he INDIRECTLY created Earth.

you speak as if you know what he did as if its fact. i personally dont think what you said has any creditable value

And you speak as if you know how the universe was created.

i dont, but theres pretty conclusive evidence on how the world manifested and practically zero evidence of a deity

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Highly recommend you watch this video.