yup

Nobody used the old one either, at least not anymore

inb4 reply to people

Doesn't change the fact that the thread is dead.

yup

**nibbero rolls 653**

**ayumu rolls 5**

**animedudej rolls 2** hey, we can share

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I do

i have so many timid froakies
i breed for a shiny, so that's like, 5 boxes of useless froaks

I think I've got it solved, bu thanks still

He's not wrong though

**xinzley rolled comment #9835665 ** :

water starter is best for every game

I know I may not be original, but I have always chosen mudkip. It isn't all that personal to me, but every time I have to choose what starter I pick, I never go with treecko because, c'mon its a piece of shit and torchic is really overdone and really isn't worth the heartache going through gyms and stuff. Personally, I like to sweep gyms, trainers, dungeons, whatever. I go with the strongest Pokemon that'll give me the best advantage, and Swampert is fucking brutal.

swampert isnt the strongest one though
blaziken is
has the highest attack and special attack out of all three

Yeah, but it really isn't worth the heartache knowing that Blaziken is weak to so many goddamn types where Swampert only has Grass to worry about. Plus, the torchic family doesn't really have that great of a move pool by level up, unlike the mudkip family. And Treecko is a piece of shit.

torchic gets decent to good fire fighting flying and normal moves as well as bulk up through leveling and learns more coverage moves through tms
mudkip gets decent to good water ground and fighting moves with most of its learnset overall being special which is its second worst stat

plus swamperts weakness hurts it more than blazikens do as it is pretty much an unavoidable one hit or two hit ko unless its so much higher in level

Blaziken is a glass-cannon. Yeah, its Special Attack and Attack are really good, but his defenses are average at best. I wouldn't even consider it a very good sweeper because its average Speed stat is a crippling setback. Swampert, on the other hand, has very good attack and HP, above average Special Attack and defenses. Again, the issue with speed draws a big concern, but the fact its defenses and HP are decent make you believe in a tanking factor, which is stupid to tank with Swampert, but whatever. A really cool indicator as to which is more superior is if you add all the base stats of the starters, Swampert's is larger by 5 points. Getting to the move pool, Blaziken's is really restrictive in regards to predictability, having only a few set-up moves that are decent and TMs that'll actually make a difference. Swampert is better covered on its level up move set alone to deal with Grass types, though don't quote me on that because it's never really smart to leave it out there against a Grass type. Blaziken is just a one trick pony; the flow of the battle is always the same. Oh, and treecko's family blows and isn't worth the concern.

speed isnt an issue in hoenn
everything besides swellow sceptile and electrode are slow
plus speed is less of an issue when it has a mega with speed boost which you will get at some point in it
defense is also solved on the physical side with bulk up
swamperts special attack is too low for it to use
stab hydro pump from it is still weak
cant even ohko tate and lizas solrock or lunatone
blazikens movepool isnt as restricted as swamperts
it gets ghost fire fighting normal flying grass ground rock poison dark dragon and electric moves
swampert gets water ground rock ice poison fighting steel dragon and normal
and base stat total being higher doesnt make it good
like mega sableye is still bad

Yeah, everything is slow. That's what makes it more valuable. Since everything is slow, you want the faster Pokemon to strike first, which is what you want. And yeah, Swampert's Special Attack is kind of low, but not low enough to forget it completely. Plus, Swampert isn't built as a sweeper. If anything, I'd call it more support: do as much quick damage as much as you can. And with its Defenses being decent, as previously stated, you could take hits as well. Blaziken can't fucking take a hit. And you bring up the types of moves Blaziken can learn, and you should know those types have more Special type attacks than physical, plus no STAB. You could give him those types for coverage, but that's about it. I never got why they made it Fire/Fighting. Fire is a terrible Physical type. Like, what the fuck. And Bulk Up isn't even as good as people make it out to be either. It raises defense, which any person with half a brain would use a Special type attack on it. It honestly doesn't matter anyways. Every starter is made equal in some way. But I'd still take Swampert over Blaziken in a heartbeat.

Gen 3 is my favorite trio, too. In fact, it's the only one where I like all 3 equally, every other gen it's either just one or two.
I'll probably pick Mudkip because Mega Swolefish. I'm not picking Blaziken because I've used him in almost every other Pokemon game (Picked him in RSE, hacked him into DPPT, Picked him in HGSS, Transferred him to Black 2, used the event mega in Y). I've used him almost as much as I've used Ampharos (I've used Ampharos in every Pokemon game I've played except Crystal and DPPT. And not Sceptile because I'm gonna use Cacturne as my grass type. For ORAS I'm gonna try and use Pokemon I've almost never to never used before. So far I've got Swampert, Cacturne, and Lopunny.

Wow stop copying me.
Will you be transfering Lopunny? Because I don't think it is catchable from the start.

Depends, if it's catchable then I'll just catch one, if not then I'll use a different mon like Audino (there's no way Audino won't be catchable) because I'll be too tempted to gen a Buneary with perfect IVs and EVs and moves and shit and that would make the game too easy. Y was already too easy for me and at first I thought it was because I had 2 megas on my team but even after I took off their stones and purposely stayed under level the game was still too damn easy.
I want ORAS to be challenging, hence why I'm using mons who I have almost no experience with. But judging by all the megas revealed I may just have an all mega team of Swampert, Metagross, Camerupt, Audino, Pidgeot, and Steelix. But that'll be a last resort team.

Last time I saw the datamining, the Hoenn pokedex was changed just slightly (Adding the cross-gen evolutions like Frosslass and stuff) so I don't know if Audino will be on it from start either.

fuck yo christmas tree lizards mega swampert is best mega

You are saying smart things. Is this for real?

Sceptile's mega looks dank as shit so I'll get Treecko

And it's also bad as shit.

still dank

I usually took treecko but now im thinking Mudkip cuz he got 'swole

Same as derpity; Plus the abundance of water types, picking mudkip seems like a bad idea, but that logic could also be applied to treecko

I normally take Mudkip but the new megas kinda make me wanna take Treecko

tfw i transferred one over from white 2

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