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#82 - but..people were already living on Africa and America. If you'… 04/04/2015 on If ive learned anything in... 0
#68 - Wtf.. Who's like "I got a gun! Let's point it at expensiv… 04/04/2015 on Always check if the gun is... 0
#1128 - **ainise used "*roll picture*"** **ainise rolled image ** … 04/04/2015 on North Korea is beautiful 0
#61 - Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argu…  [+] (11 new replies) 04/03/2015 on Smart 0
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
#58 - This is how many apples you have. How you SAY this m…  [+] (13 new replies) 04/03/2015 on Smart 0
#59 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
I have four apples.

How many apples do I have
#61 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argue without reading a word I'm saying, or if you are actually too stupid to understand what I'm saying - but either way, I don't think you'll get it. So, bye.
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
#55 - I don't know how else to explain this.. I mean this is basic l…  [+] (16 new replies) 04/03/2015 on Smart 0
#57 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Made this for you.

The answer is 4 apples
User avatar #56 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Are you actually autistic?

If I have two apples.
Then someone gives me two more apples.
I physically only have four apples.
There is no magic number bullshit that will make me not have 4 apples.
#58 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
This is how many apples you have.

How you SAY this many apples depends ENTIRELY on the base system you use. You're used to the traditional Decimal system, which is a base 10 system. They count 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - A total of 10 numbers. This is where the "10" in base 10 comes from. Base 2, 4, 8, 10 and 16 are all fairly used systems.

In base 2, this many apples would be written as "100". You would count them as thus: 1, 10, 11, 100.

In base 4, this many apples would be written as "10". You would count them as thus:
1, 2, 3, 10.

In any base above 4, this many apples would be written as "4". You would count them as thus: 1, 2, 3, 4.

I don't know if I can honestly explain this any clearer.
#59 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
I have four apples.

How many apples do I have
#61 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argue without reading a word I'm saying, or if you are actually too stupid to understand what I'm saying - but either way, I don't think you'll get it. So, bye.
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
#53 - You..do know what base means, right? The number 4 doesn't EXIS…  [+] (20 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Smart 0
User avatar #54 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
You do know that I don't magically have more than 4 apples, right?
#67 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Okay, but in base 10, this many: | | | | is 4. That's what you're using.

In base 4, this many: | | | | is 10.
User avatar #70 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Does not change the fact that I am holding only 4 apples
#55 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
I don't know how else to explain this.. I mean this is basic level math.

In systems under base 5, the number "4" does not exist. |||| <- this many marks is 10 in base 4.

1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, 23, 30, 31, 32, 33, 100, 101, etc.

"Base" refers to the number of numbers you use. Binary, a base 2 system, uses only 1s and 0s. Meaning the number "100", translated to decimal(aka base 10), is only 4. (1, 10, 11, 100)
#57 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Made this for you.

The answer is 4 apples
User avatar #56 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Are you actually autistic?

If I have two apples.
Then someone gives me two more apples.
I physically only have four apples.
There is no magic number bullshit that will make me not have 4 apples.
#58 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
This is how many apples you have.

How you SAY this many apples depends ENTIRELY on the base system you use. You're used to the traditional Decimal system, which is a base 10 system. They count 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - A total of 10 numbers. This is where the "10" in base 10 comes from. Base 2, 4, 8, 10 and 16 are all fairly used systems.

In base 2, this many apples would be written as "100". You would count them as thus: 1, 10, 11, 100.

In base 4, this many apples would be written as "10". You would count them as thus:
1, 2, 3, 10.

In any base above 4, this many apples would be written as "4". You would count them as thus: 1, 2, 3, 4.

I don't know if I can honestly explain this any clearer.
#59 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
I have four apples.

How many apples do I have
#61 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argue without reading a word I'm saying, or if you are actually too stupid to understand what I'm saying - but either way, I don't think you'll get it. So, bye.
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
#156 - I spend way too much time on this site to have adblock on. I w… 04/02/2015 on Literal Thumbwhoring for FJ 0
#51 - in base 5 or higher, 4 in base 4, 10 in base 3, 11 …  [+] (22 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Smart 0
User avatar #52 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
I have two apples.
I get two more apples.
I physically have 4 apples.
Anything else is a lie, which the one who tells the truth can't do.

Sorry m8.
#53 - ainise (04/02/2015) [-]
You..do know what base means, right? The number 4 doesn't EXIST in base 4 & lower. Base 2 is Binary, 0's and 1's only. Base 3 is Ternary, 0's, 1's and 2's only. Meaning, having 4 apples in binary, is 10 in Ternary. (count with me, 1, 2, 3, 10).

That's like saying 10+1 = A, anything other than that is a lie. (Base 16 uses 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F)
User avatar #54 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
You do know that I don't magically have more than 4 apples, right?
#67 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Okay, but in base 10, this many: | | | | is 4. That's what you're using.

In base 4, this many: | | | | is 10.
User avatar #70 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Does not change the fact that I am holding only 4 apples
#55 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
I don't know how else to explain this.. I mean this is basic level math.

In systems under base 5, the number "4" does not exist. |||| <- this many marks is 10 in base 4.

1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, 23, 30, 31, 32, 33, 100, 101, etc.

"Base" refers to the number of numbers you use. Binary, a base 2 system, uses only 1s and 0s. Meaning the number "100", translated to decimal(aka base 10), is only 4. (1, 10, 11, 100)
#57 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Made this for you.

The answer is 4 apples
User avatar #56 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Are you actually autistic?

If I have two apples.
Then someone gives me two more apples.
I physically only have four apples.
There is no magic number bullshit that will make me not have 4 apples.
#58 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
This is how many apples you have.

How you SAY this many apples depends ENTIRELY on the base system you use. You're used to the traditional Decimal system, which is a base 10 system. They count 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - A total of 10 numbers. This is where the "10" in base 10 comes from. Base 2, 4, 8, 10 and 16 are all fairly used systems.

In base 2, this many apples would be written as "100". You would count them as thus: 1, 10, 11, 100.

In base 4, this many apples would be written as "10". You would count them as thus:
1, 2, 3, 10.

In any base above 4, this many apples would be written as "4". You would count them as thus: 1, 2, 3, 4.

I don't know if I can honestly explain this any clearer.
#59 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
I have four apples.

How many apples do I have
#61 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argue without reading a word I'm saying, or if you are actually too stupid to understand what I'm saying - but either way, I don't think you'll get it. So, bye.
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
#49 - You didn't specify, and it is the truth. 2+2 = 4 can be a lie.…  [+] (30 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Smart 0
User avatar #50 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
"If I have two apples, and get two more, how many apples do I have?"
#66 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
If we are using base 4, then you'd have 10 apples. That counting system goes from 1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, 23, 30...

So to say you have 10 apples would be the truth if the mythical beasts count in base 4.

Now, to make it more complicated, what if the two beasts are using different bases? You could get two completely different answers other than 4 and you'd have no way of knowing who gave you the correct answer in the base they're using.
User avatar #71 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
And if we're using real life, I'm only holding 4 apples.
#73 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude; you're sitting on a computer. Your computer uses a system called binary which comprised of 1s and 0s. Literally if we were to look closely enough at the code in your computer, you just told me you have 100 apples.
#74 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude, I'm holding two apples.
I am handed two more apples.
I now have 4 apples.
#76 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
And in binary you have 100 apples. If your computer could only show binary, and you asked it to output the number related to that many apples, it would say 100.
#78 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
And in real life I have 4 apples.
Sorry.
#51 - ainise (04/02/2015) [-]
in base 5 or higher, 4
in base 4, 10
in base 3, 11
in base 2, n/a (Since you used 2, you can't have been in base 2(aka Binary)) If you wanted to translate that, though, it'd be 100
In base 1, n/a (Since you used 2, you can't have been in base 2(aka Unary)) If you wanted to translate that, though, it'd be ////
User avatar #52 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
I have two apples.
I get two more apples.
I physically have 4 apples.
Anything else is a lie, which the one who tells the truth can't do.

Sorry m8.
#53 - ainise (04/02/2015) [-]
You..do know what base means, right? The number 4 doesn't EXIST in base 4 & lower. Base 2 is Binary, 0's and 1's only. Base 3 is Ternary, 0's, 1's and 2's only. Meaning, having 4 apples in binary, is 10 in Ternary. (count with me, 1, 2, 3, 10).

That's like saying 10+1 = A, anything other than that is a lie. (Base 16 uses 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F)
User avatar #54 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
You do know that I don't magically have more than 4 apples, right?
#67 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Okay, but in base 10, this many: | | | | is 4. That's what you're using.

In base 4, this many: | | | | is 10.
User avatar #70 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Does not change the fact that I am holding only 4 apples
#55 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
I don't know how else to explain this.. I mean this is basic level math.

In systems under base 5, the number "4" does not exist. |||| <- this many marks is 10 in base 4.

1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, 23, 30, 31, 32, 33, 100, 101, etc.

"Base" refers to the number of numbers you use. Binary, a base 2 system, uses only 1s and 0s. Meaning the number "100", translated to decimal(aka base 10), is only 4. (1, 10, 11, 100)
#57 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Made this for you.

The answer is 4 apples
User avatar #56 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Are you actually autistic?

If I have two apples.
Then someone gives me two more apples.
I physically only have four apples.
There is no magic number bullshit that will make me not have 4 apples.
#58 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
This is how many apples you have.

How you SAY this many apples depends ENTIRELY on the base system you use. You're used to the traditional Decimal system, which is a base 10 system. They count 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - A total of 10 numbers. This is where the "10" in base 10 comes from. Base 2, 4, 8, 10 and 16 are all fairly used systems.

In base 2, this many apples would be written as "100". You would count them as thus: 1, 10, 11, 100.

In base 4, this many apples would be written as "10". You would count them as thus:
1, 2, 3, 10.

In any base above 4, this many apples would be written as "4". You would count them as thus: 1, 2, 3, 4.

I don't know if I can honestly explain this any clearer.
#59 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
I have four apples.

How many apples do I have
#61 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argue without reading a word I'm saying, or if you are actually too stupid to understand what I'm saying - but either way, I don't think you'll get it. So, bye.
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
#47 - >To the one who tells the truth "10" >…  [+] (32 new replies) 04/02/2015 on Smart 0
User avatar #48 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
But that isn't the truth, or part of the question you asked.
#49 - ainise (04/02/2015) [-]
You didn't specify, and it is the truth. 2+2 = 4 can be a lie. 2+2 = 10 or 11 can be true. 2+2 = 0 can also be true. 2+2 = 1 can also be true. For the exact same reason 1+1=1 and 1+1=0 can be true.

The point of these kinds of riddles are to mislead you, to force you down the wrong path. They are answering your question in a confusing manner intentionally to attempt to mislead you. There's numerous ways they could do that.
User avatar #50 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
"If I have two apples, and get two more, how many apples do I have?"
#66 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
If we are using base 4, then you'd have 10 apples. That counting system goes from 1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, 23, 30...

So to say you have 10 apples would be the truth if the mythical beasts count in base 4.

Now, to make it more complicated, what if the two beasts are using different bases? You could get two completely different answers other than 4 and you'd have no way of knowing who gave you the correct answer in the base they're using.
User avatar #71 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
And if we're using real life, I'm only holding 4 apples.
#73 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude; you're sitting on a computer. Your computer uses a system called binary which comprised of 1s and 0s. Literally if we were to look closely enough at the code in your computer, you just told me you have 100 apples.
#74 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude, I'm holding two apples.
I am handed two more apples.
I now have 4 apples.
#76 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
And in binary you have 100 apples. If your computer could only show binary, and you asked it to output the number related to that many apples, it would say 100.
#78 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
And in real life I have 4 apples.
Sorry.
#51 - ainise (04/02/2015) [-]
in base 5 or higher, 4
in base 4, 10
in base 3, 11
in base 2, n/a (Since you used 2, you can't have been in base 2(aka Binary)) If you wanted to translate that, though, it'd be 100
In base 1, n/a (Since you used 2, you can't have been in base 2(aka Unary)) If you wanted to translate that, though, it'd be ////
User avatar #52 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
I have two apples.
I get two more apples.
I physically have 4 apples.
Anything else is a lie, which the one who tells the truth can't do.

Sorry m8.
#53 - ainise (04/02/2015) [-]
You..do know what base means, right? The number 4 doesn't EXIST in base 4 & lower. Base 2 is Binary, 0's and 1's only. Base 3 is Ternary, 0's, 1's and 2's only. Meaning, having 4 apples in binary, is 10 in Ternary. (count with me, 1, 2, 3, 10).

That's like saying 10+1 = A, anything other than that is a lie. (Base 16 uses 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F)
User avatar #54 - leonhardt (04/02/2015) [-]
You do know that I don't magically have more than 4 apples, right?
#67 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Okay, but in base 10, this many: | | | | is 4. That's what you're using.

In base 4, this many: | | | | is 10.
User avatar #70 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Does not change the fact that I am holding only 4 apples
#55 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
I don't know how else to explain this.. I mean this is basic level math.

In systems under base 5, the number "4" does not exist. |||| <- this many marks is 10 in base 4.

1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 22, 23, 30, 31, 32, 33, 100, 101, etc.

"Base" refers to the number of numbers you use. Binary, a base 2 system, uses only 1s and 0s. Meaning the number "100", translated to decimal(aka base 10), is only 4. (1, 10, 11, 100)
#57 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Made this for you.

The answer is 4 apples
User avatar #56 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
Are you actually autistic?

If I have two apples.
Then someone gives me two more apples.
I physically only have four apples.
There is no magic number bullshit that will make me not have 4 apples.
#58 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
This is how many apples you have.

How you SAY this many apples depends ENTIRELY on the base system you use. You're used to the traditional Decimal system, which is a base 10 system. They count 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - A total of 10 numbers. This is where the "10" in base 10 comes from. Base 2, 4, 8, 10 and 16 are all fairly used systems.

In base 2, this many apples would be written as "100". You would count them as thus: 1, 10, 11, 100.

In base 4, this many apples would be written as "10". You would count them as thus:
1, 2, 3, 10.

In any base above 4, this many apples would be written as "4". You would count them as thus: 1, 2, 3, 4.

I don't know if I can honestly explain this any clearer.
#59 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
I have four apples.

How many apples do I have
#61 - ainise (04/03/2015) [-]
Man...I can't tell if you've just decided you're going to argue without reading a word I'm saying, or if you are actually too stupid to understand what I'm saying - but either way, I don't think you'll get it. So, bye.
#69 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Dude... I think he's actually too stupid to get it. I just read through this and I was explaining things (in the same way you were) and he's just not understanding what you mean by changing to base 3.
User avatar #83 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
I fully understand all your base bullshit.
What I don't understand is how pants shittingly stupid you have to be to think that applying bases to real life magically makes me have more than 4 apples.

Try going to the store with that shit.
"Here's a 5 dollar bill"
"Your total is 14.95"
"B-BUT I GAVE YOU 100 DOLLARS! IN BASE #!!!"
#88 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Money by definition is in base 10. We've clarified. Simply asking for 2+2 doesn't.
User avatar #89 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Apples don't have bases. We've clarified.
#91 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, but numbers do. You're using numbers to describe the apples so any numerical system can accurately describe those apples.
#93 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
Except this is also the real, physical world.
You can say it's 100 apples all you like.
But really it's only 4.
Anything else is a lie.
#86 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Except we're not in a store. In the post we're in a labyrinth talking to mythical two headed beasts.
User avatar #87 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
That can see how many apples I have.
#90 - cdroid (04/07/2015) [-]
Yes, and they can choose to use any numerical system they want to describe the amount of apples you have.
#92 - leonhardt (04/07/2015) [-]
But I will never have more than 4 apples.
Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp.

They could say I have 100 apples.
But they would be lying.
User avatar #63 - leonhardt (04/03/2015) [-]
The answer is four.

Stay in school.
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If I have two things, and someone gives me two more, I will have four things.
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User avatar #189 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
The debate was there bro, it's just that it's very unlikely that this is brought up in the context of an english class, because it's easier to work with clearly defined terms.

Terms have been muddy forever. Grammar books and dictionaries give the impression that there is a clear cut 'right' and 'wrong', but this has never been the case. These works are merely attempts to capture something as fluid as language and set it in stone by making rules. These books would have you believe that you cannot end a sentence with a preposition and yet people do it every day and the people they are talking to don't have any trouble understanding them.
Language is not mathematics. It isn't about what's right or wrong, it's about what works.
#186 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
12 years of english in 1st through 12th grade* not just high school lol
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User avatar #181 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
They're not fundamentally different. They were created via the exact same processes of word formation. The pronunciation, however, turned out different, and therefore we can assign the words with different labels if we wish to make this distinction.
'.gif' isn't pronounced as a word because it's an acronym.
We call '.gif' an acronym because it's pronounced as a word.
#176 - The post I responded to is using the argument "we don't s…  [+] (3 new replies) 03/29/2015 on GIF or JIF? 0
User avatar #177 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
This all boils down to arguing semantics. We're trying to put a definition to terms that aren't very relevant in the larger debate frame.
#179 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
They are relevant, and I pointed out why. They're not subject to the same pronunciation rules. The entire debate is BASED on pronunciation;gif vs jif, and using "USA" as a reason to dictate its pronunciation is nonsensical, since they're fundamentally different types of abbreviations.
User avatar #181 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
They're not fundamentally different. They were created via the exact same processes of word formation. The pronunciation, however, turned out different, and therefore we can assign the words with different labels if we wish to make this distinction.
'.gif' isn't pronounced as a word because it's an acronym.
We call '.gif' an acronym because it's pronounced as a word.
#174 - But that's an abbreviation, not an acronym. Abbreviation is th…  [+] (4 new replies) 03/29/2015 on GIF or JIF? 0
User avatar #175 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
Abbreviation would be an umbrella term on a higher level.
Applying the merriam-webster definition:
Abbrev. is an abbreviation but not an acronym.
Radar is an abbreviation and an acronym but not an initialism.
NSA is an abbreviation, an acronym and an initialism.
#185 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
And this is exactly my problem. Going through English 1101 8 years ago, English 1102 7 years ago, 12 years of English in high school; we learned very clearly that Abbreviation is an umbrella term for ACronym & initialism, not that Acronym is an umbrella term for the, now unnamed, and Initialisms. There was no debate, there was no discussion, people who used it wrong, were simply wrong...

And that's slowly changing - changing our language in a negative way, muddying words that were clearly defined. Literally is now defined as virtually.( www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally ) Irony is now defined as coincidence in more circles(happy I couldn't find that in a dictionary, honestly). And now, Acronym isn't how we defined acronym just 10 years ago.

Bah.
User avatar #189 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
The debate was there bro, it's just that it's very unlikely that this is brought up in the context of an english class, because it's easier to work with clearly defined terms.

Terms have been muddy forever. Grammar books and dictionaries give the impression that there is a clear cut 'right' and 'wrong', but this has never been the case. These works are merely attempts to capture something as fluid as language and set it in stone by making rules. These books would have you believe that you cannot end a sentence with a preposition and yet people do it every day and the people they are talking to don't have any trouble understanding them.
Language is not mathematics. It isn't about what's right or wrong, it's about what works.
#186 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
12 years of english in 1st through 12th grade* not just high school lol
#171 - Up until early 2000s, pretty much no dictionary would agree th…  [+] (11 new replies) 03/29/2015 on GIF or JIF? 0
User avatar #173 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
And that all of this really doesn't matter to this debate, because even if you find the correct fancy term to label the word with, that term does not dictate how it's pronounced, but derives from how it's pronounced.
#176 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
The post I responded to is using the argument "we don't say USA as OOSA" as a reason to not say GIF as GIF. As if they are both the same type of abbreviation(acronyms) and they are both subject to the same rules of grammar. This can be immediately attributed to him(or her) thinking that GIF and USA are both acronyms.
User avatar #177 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
This all boils down to arguing semantics. We're trying to put a definition to terms that aren't very relevant in the larger debate frame.
#179 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
They are relevant, and I pointed out why. They're not subject to the same pronunciation rules. The entire debate is BASED on pronunciation;gif vs jif, and using "USA" as a reason to dictate its pronunciation is nonsensical, since they're fundamentally different types of abbreviations.
User avatar #181 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
They're not fundamentally different. They were created via the exact same processes of word formation. The pronunciation, however, turned out different, and therefore we can assign the words with different labels if we wish to make this distinction.
'.gif' isn't pronounced as a word because it's an acronym.
We call '.gif' an acronym because it's pronounced as a word.
User avatar #172 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
I'm just saying that you can't appeal to a clear definition of the terms, because even the linguistic community can't agree on them.

Merriam webster sees acronym as an umbrella term and initialism as a specification, whereas the OED puts them in contrast.
#174 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
But that's an abbreviation, not an acronym. Abbreviation is the umbrella term. The primary reason there's even a discussion in the linguistic world is because so many people are using "acronym" to mean abbreviation. Again I say, muddying up already defined terms because the masses choose to use the incorrectly(like literally, acronym, irony, etc.) is just wrong.
User avatar #175 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
Abbreviation would be an umbrella term on a higher level.
Applying the merriam-webster definition:
Abbrev. is an abbreviation but not an acronym.
Radar is an abbreviation and an acronym but not an initialism.
NSA is an abbreviation, an acronym and an initialism.
#185 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
And this is exactly my problem. Going through English 1101 8 years ago, English 1102 7 years ago, 12 years of English in high school; we learned very clearly that Abbreviation is an umbrella term for ACronym & initialism, not that Acronym is an umbrella term for the, now unnamed, and Initialisms. There was no debate, there was no discussion, people who used it wrong, were simply wrong...

And that's slowly changing - changing our language in a negative way, muddying words that were clearly defined. Literally is now defined as virtually.( www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally ) Irony is now defined as coincidence in more circles(happy I couldn't find that in a dictionary, honestly). And now, Acronym isn't how we defined acronym just 10 years ago.

Bah.
User avatar #189 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
The debate was there bro, it's just that it's very unlikely that this is brought up in the context of an english class, because it's easier to work with clearly defined terms.

Terms have been muddy forever. Grammar books and dictionaries give the impression that there is a clear cut 'right' and 'wrong', but this has never been the case. These works are merely attempts to capture something as fluid as language and set it in stone by making rules. These books would have you believe that you cannot end a sentence with a preposition and yet people do it every day and the people they are talking to don't have any trouble understanding them.
Language is not mathematics. It isn't about what's right or wrong, it's about what works.
#186 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
12 years of english in 1st through 12th grade* not just high school lol
#165 - Seriously..? A wiki article? I expected more out of you, langu…  [+] (15 new replies) 03/29/2015 on GIF or JIF? 0
User avatar #167 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
It's convenient. And they happen to have it pretty much right. Problem?
#171 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
Up until early 2000s, pretty much no dictionary would agree that initialisms & acronyms were the same. As of recent, some dictionaries have either kept it ambigious(IE: Websters) or are just expanding the defniition of acronym to also mean initialism.

I just disagree that we should muddy the words up like that. The words have very clear and concise meanings. Muddying them because people chose to remain ignorant is stupid. To me, Acronym and Initialisms will never be the same.

VIVA LA RESISTANCE!
User avatar #173 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
And that all of this really doesn't matter to this debate, because even if you find the correct fancy term to label the word with, that term does not dictate how it's pronounced, but derives from how it's pronounced.
#176 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
The post I responded to is using the argument "we don't say USA as OOSA" as a reason to not say GIF as GIF. As if they are both the same type of abbreviation(acronyms) and they are both subject to the same rules of grammar. This can be immediately attributed to him(or her) thinking that GIF and USA are both acronyms.
User avatar #177 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
This all boils down to arguing semantics. We're trying to put a definition to terms that aren't very relevant in the larger debate frame.
#179 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
They are relevant, and I pointed out why. They're not subject to the same pronunciation rules. The entire debate is BASED on pronunciation;gif vs jif, and using "USA" as a reason to dictate its pronunciation is nonsensical, since they're fundamentally different types of abbreviations.
User avatar #181 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
They're not fundamentally different. They were created via the exact same processes of word formation. The pronunciation, however, turned out different, and therefore we can assign the words with different labels if we wish to make this distinction.
'.gif' isn't pronounced as a word because it's an acronym.
We call '.gif' an acronym because it's pronounced as a word.
User avatar #172 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
I'm just saying that you can't appeal to a clear definition of the terms, because even the linguistic community can't agree on them.

Merriam webster sees acronym as an umbrella term and initialism as a specification, whereas the OED puts them in contrast.
#174 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
But that's an abbreviation, not an acronym. Abbreviation is the umbrella term. The primary reason there's even a discussion in the linguistic world is because so many people are using "acronym" to mean abbreviation. Again I say, muddying up already defined terms because the masses choose to use the incorrectly(like literally, acronym, irony, etc.) is just wrong.
User avatar #175 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
Abbreviation would be an umbrella term on a higher level.
Applying the merriam-webster definition:
Abbrev. is an abbreviation but not an acronym.
Radar is an abbreviation and an acronym but not an initialism.
NSA is an abbreviation, an acronym and an initialism.
#185 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
And this is exactly my problem. Going through English 1101 8 years ago, English 1102 7 years ago, 12 years of English in high school; we learned very clearly that Abbreviation is an umbrella term for ACronym & initialism, not that Acronym is an umbrella term for the, now unnamed, and Initialisms. There was no debate, there was no discussion, people who used it wrong, were simply wrong...

And that's slowly changing - changing our language in a negative way, muddying words that were clearly defined. Literally is now defined as virtually.( www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally ) Irony is now defined as coincidence in more circles(happy I couldn't find that in a dictionary, honestly). And now, Acronym isn't how we defined acronym just 10 years ago.

Bah.
User avatar #189 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
The debate was there bro, it's just that it's very unlikely that this is brought up in the context of an english class, because it's easier to work with clearly defined terms.

Terms have been muddy forever. Grammar books and dictionaries give the impression that there is a clear cut 'right' and 'wrong', but this has never been the case. These works are merely attempts to capture something as fluid as language and set it in stone by making rules. These books would have you believe that you cannot end a sentence with a preposition and yet people do it every day and the people they are talking to don't have any trouble understanding them.
Language is not mathematics. It isn't about what's right or wrong, it's about what works.
#186 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
12 years of english in 1st through 12th grade* not just high school lol
#159 - USA isn't an acronym, it's an initialism you ignorant twat. …  [+] (17 new replies) 03/29/2015 on GIF or JIF? 0
#165 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
Seriously..? A wiki article? I expected more out of you, languagexplain. I expected so much more.
User avatar #167 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
It's convenient. And they happen to have it pretty much right. Problem?
#171 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
Up until early 2000s, pretty much no dictionary would agree that initialisms & acronyms were the same. As of recent, some dictionaries have either kept it ambigious(IE: Websters) or are just expanding the defniition of acronym to also mean initialism.

I just disagree that we should muddy the words up like that. The words have very clear and concise meanings. Muddying them because people chose to remain ignorant is stupid. To me, Acronym and Initialisms will never be the same.

VIVA LA RESISTANCE!
User avatar #173 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
And that all of this really doesn't matter to this debate, because even if you find the correct fancy term to label the word with, that term does not dictate how it's pronounced, but derives from how it's pronounced.
#176 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
The post I responded to is using the argument "we don't say USA as OOSA" as a reason to not say GIF as GIF. As if they are both the same type of abbreviation(acronyms) and they are both subject to the same rules of grammar. This can be immediately attributed to him(or her) thinking that GIF and USA are both acronyms.
User avatar #177 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
This all boils down to arguing semantics. We're trying to put a definition to terms that aren't very relevant in the larger debate frame.
#179 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
They are relevant, and I pointed out why. They're not subject to the same pronunciation rules. The entire debate is BASED on pronunciation;gif vs jif, and using "USA" as a reason to dictate its pronunciation is nonsensical, since they're fundamentally different types of abbreviations.
User avatar #181 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
They're not fundamentally different. They were created via the exact same processes of word formation. The pronunciation, however, turned out different, and therefore we can assign the words with different labels if we wish to make this distinction.
'.gif' isn't pronounced as a word because it's an acronym.
We call '.gif' an acronym because it's pronounced as a word.
User avatar #172 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
I'm just saying that you can't appeal to a clear definition of the terms, because even the linguistic community can't agree on them.

Merriam webster sees acronym as an umbrella term and initialism as a specification, whereas the OED puts them in contrast.
#174 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
But that's an abbreviation, not an acronym. Abbreviation is the umbrella term. The primary reason there's even a discussion in the linguistic world is because so many people are using "acronym" to mean abbreviation. Again I say, muddying up already defined terms because the masses choose to use the incorrectly(like literally, acronym, irony, etc.) is just wrong.
User avatar #175 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
Abbreviation would be an umbrella term on a higher level.
Applying the merriam-webster definition:
Abbrev. is an abbreviation but not an acronym.
Radar is an abbreviation and an acronym but not an initialism.
NSA is an abbreviation, an acronym and an initialism.
#185 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
And this is exactly my problem. Going through English 1101 8 years ago, English 1102 7 years ago, 12 years of English in high school; we learned very clearly that Abbreviation is an umbrella term for ACronym & initialism, not that Acronym is an umbrella term for the, now unnamed, and Initialisms. There was no debate, there was no discussion, people who used it wrong, were simply wrong...

And that's slowly changing - changing our language in a negative way, muddying words that were clearly defined. Literally is now defined as virtually.( www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally ) Irony is now defined as coincidence in more circles(happy I couldn't find that in a dictionary, honestly). And now, Acronym isn't how we defined acronym just 10 years ago.

Bah.
User avatar #189 - languagexplain (03/29/2015) [-]
The debate was there bro, it's just that it's very unlikely that this is brought up in the context of an english class, because it's easier to work with clearly defined terms.

Terms have been muddy forever. Grammar books and dictionaries give the impression that there is a clear cut 'right' and 'wrong', but this has never been the case. These works are merely attempts to capture something as fluid as language and set it in stone by making rules. These books would have you believe that you cannot end a sentence with a preposition and yet people do it every day and the people they are talking to don't have any trouble understanding them.
Language is not mathematics. It isn't about what's right or wrong, it's about what works.
#186 - ainise (03/29/2015) [-]
12 years of english in 1st through 12th grade* not just high school lol
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