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#56 - Why did I use SFX.. I meant effects in general. Sorry. 13 hours ago on pok 0
#54 - Unfair equivocation. Sound quality is rarely a big deal, and f…  [+] (2 new replies) 13 hours ago on pok 0
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#61 - OtisMcWonderful (12 hours ago) [-]
>The greats worked with what they had and used it masterfully.
Exactly. Developers worked around limited hardware to achieve effects beyond what the hardware was technically capable of. Compare early releases to later releases on the same hardware.

>>FF6 vs FF7
It's the opposite for me. I tend to see 7 get way more attention, even though it's the lesser game. It's also way more overrated than OoT ever was.

As hardware gets stronger, you're going to see developers pushing for better looking games. That's how it was, is, and always will be. As much as people like to argue otherwise, visuals are an important aspect to a certain degree. And yes, OoT is fine. You're comparing it to newer games on more powerful hardware when you should be comparing it to games on the N64. It's not the best looking game, but it works. Also, if you're thinking of emulation or playing on an HDTV, just stop. I promise it looks much better on a CRT at the game's native res.


But reading your comment, I think dated will work just fine. It gets the same general point across while also making it clear that it's because of the time, rather than the game itself.
#56 - ainise (13 hours ago) [-]
Why did I use SFX.. I meant effects in general. Sorry.
#48 - NES* not snes..zz 14 hours ago on pok +1
#47 - Why are you being so pedantic over this? Games ARE scored on a…  [+] (5 new replies) 14 hours ago on pok 0
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#50 - OtisMcWonderful (13 hours ago) [-]
Visuals aside, OoT of time was re-released essentially intact just a few years ago and received a 94 on Metacritic and is currently in the top 100 games of all time, not to mention the fact that the original still holds the top spot. However, I will kind of go along with your point and say that it's overrated. It's a good game to be sure, but I much prefer Zelda 2 and Windwaker.




But anyway, my point is that saying a game ages is just wrong. You generally don't get people saying that movies age well/poorly. You generally don't get people saying music ages well/poorly. If anything, they're gauged by people while considering that they're a product of their time. So why do we have this in gaming? I think my biggest gripe with it is that it causes people to just cast legitimately good games aside and not play them just because X game did something better.

I enjoy games. I enjoy games from all genres and times. It's my hobby. That's why I get so pedantic over it. It's something that I love doing, and no one likes to see people "ruin" their hobby.
#54 - ainise (13 hours ago) [-]
Unfair equivocation. Sound quality is rarely a big deal, and for songs that were popular when it WAS a big deal are either never recorded or were enhanced by the problems in the recording - looking at you big band where the low bass high treble recording with high tamber enhanced the sounds of the loud brass and the voice. In fact, I'd argue it'd be hard to pull off that same sound making big band music less likely to be played now. Music evolved so people had more ways to express themselves, not out of advancements in science. You can certainly argue that better recording and amplification tools allowed for more music to arise, but it certainly didn't hurt prior sounds. As such, music of the past still has very large followings. The greats in 'classical' (I use this term loosely, but you know what I mean) music are irrelevant of the time they lived.

As for movies: I hear SFX being dated all the time. Just because you use a different term for it doesn't change the fact that it means it's not aging well. Star Wars, for example, is a tough watch after watching Guardians of the Galaxy. That being said, people enjoy the bad SFX - I mean look at the MASSIVE followings of B rated movies in general. Birdemic, sharknado and its sequels, etc.

People /enjoy/ the bad SFX, people /enjoy/ the bad sound quality, people /enjoy/ the corny acting. The greats worked with what they had and used it masterfully. Look at psycho with chocolate syrup.

No, this is different. There's no redeemable factor about the graphics in original release of OoT. Look at how much love is showered on FF6 and how little on 7 - even though 7 was CLEARLY more beloved by fans of the time. I STILL hear people talk about 6, while 7 barely gets a passing mention.

Graphical decisions /don't/ have to make a game bad. Games that work with it, often do very well. The unfortunate fact is that was very rare. Often they just wanted to put out the best looking thing they could pushing the top graphics they could even if that wasn't necessarily for the best. ZeldaoT is one of the best examples of that.

Also, OoT is always going to get a 90+ score out of nostalgic reasons, I suspect. That's why I specified "If it came out today".
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#61 - OtisMcWonderful (12 hours ago) [-]
>The greats worked with what they had and used it masterfully.
Exactly. Developers worked around limited hardware to achieve effects beyond what the hardware was technically capable of. Compare early releases to later releases on the same hardware.

>>FF6 vs FF7
It's the opposite for me. I tend to see 7 get way more attention, even though it's the lesser game. It's also way more overrated than OoT ever was.

As hardware gets stronger, you're going to see developers pushing for better looking games. That's how it was, is, and always will be. As much as people like to argue otherwise, visuals are an important aspect to a certain degree. And yes, OoT is fine. You're comparing it to newer games on more powerful hardware when you should be comparing it to games on the N64. It's not the best looking game, but it works. Also, if you're thinking of emulation or playing on an HDTV, just stop. I promise it looks much better on a CRT at the game's native res.


But reading your comment, I think dated will work just fine. It gets the same general point across while also making it clear that it's because of the time, rather than the game itself.
#56 - ainise (13 hours ago) [-]
Why did I use SFX.. I meant effects in general. Sorry.
#48 - ainise (14 hours ago) [-]
NES* not snes..zz
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#584 - anon (13 hours ago) [-]
The Admin plagiarized this code from github without citing the source.
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