I was fucking looking at it... And just slowly dawned on me after seeing the boot.

running around was far more dangerous, you could sniped from just about anywhere.
the strategy was that almost everybody in those games pushed the objectives and pushed for them. people would try NOT to get killed BECAUSE of the fact that you could run out of reinforcements

the issue is that battlefront and cod LITERALLY are running around and killing stuff.
its not any boiling down or summing up. they are running around and kill stuff.
the original battlefront games did have strategy, the maps were huge as fuck and running around literally would get you killed unless you were a jedi, and even then it wasnt that hard to get killed. if you didnt know the maps even remotely you wouldnt know anything about where the goals were whereas in battlefront i literally roamed around and little and was able to find the goals.

the original battlefronts maps were so big running around was less dangerous than it is in the newer one, and what sort of strategy are you talking about? it was literally just stand on the point for a few seconds and make sure your team had more points and that you were ultimately killing more people, since, if you dont remember, the games were determined based off of the side that lost all of its reinforcements first, while in battlefront ea the objective actually matters, which makes it different from cod as well, since most cod gamemodes boil down to kills as well. the new bf makes it easy to run around and kill people, but if youre not at least killing the people who are trying to do objective, youre going to lose

running around was far more dangerous, you could sniped from just about anywhere.
the strategy was that almost everybody in those games pushed the objectives and pushed for them. people would try NOT to get killed BECAUSE of the fact that you could run out of reinforcements

The general gameplay still runs the same path of "Run around and kill what you see, occasionally do goals"
theres very little if any strategy to either of the games other then "be faster then your enemy"
sure there are minor tweaks as in the card system which was incredibly shittily implemented but they dont change the general gameplay by much.

EVERY FPS is run around kill what you see and occasionally do goals

no they really arent. nowhere near to the extent of battlefront atleast.
try playing insurgency just running around killing everything.
try playing one of the most widely known and best fps every, counter strike just running around killing everything

not knowing the map and general strategies literally gets you killed before you can get more then a couple kills.

been playing Counter strike for about 10 years on and off now

i could also be lieing about this, just as much as you could be.

and my father was on one of the top 10 teams of counter strike in the entire world.
i learnt plenty from him

that's cool, never been too into the esports side of it. just play it cause I've enjoyed it you know.

neither have i, i dont hardly enjoy playing cs or csgo
more of an insurgency guy.

I havn't played insurgency since it was a re-skinned CS mod that even used dust (was fun though) Counter Strike is running around killing people (or sitting on a counter with an awp) and planting a bomb or rescuing hostages which is an objective mate.

counter strike is far from running around killing people
you need to communicate and effectively eliminate targets with teamwork
the best of just about any teams ever did this, even casual ones that sucked at 1 on 1 could decimate great players with teamwork.

I know what counter strike is man. just the way you described is pretty much just a generic way of describing the fps genre.

that sort of thing doesnt happen at all in battlefront and probably rarely in cod.
its not running around killing shit
its using teamwork, map knowlege and knowledge of the weapons to eliminate your enemies, not mindlessly killing shit.

the problem is CS is a tacticle shooter the onlys ones getting into that are Rainbow Six, Insurgency and Socom back in the Socom 2 days. Battlefront is more of that arena style in the way of battlefield, CoD, Doom and Quake. just hop in and blast things you know?

i dont care for that style of game, its rediculous and just rage inducing at this point.
its the same reason the communities are usually populated with screaming pre-teens.

mmhmm. It's why If I do play Battlefront etc I usually have them muted with music playing in the background. Shame it's starting to happen to CS as well really should get into insurgency. How active is the playerbase for insurgency these days?

i saw that happening with CS go, its the main reason why i didnt buy it over break
insurgency the standalone release is going pretty well, lots of servers and players.

if you're gonna play CS stick to CSS to be honest. Also that's good to here I'll have to pick it up when I get a chance

true enough, but most major shooters could be summed up by "run around and kill what you see, occasionally doing goals." That was what the original battlefront games were as well. If you're looking for a tactical type of thing, go play R6S, where the devs are actually known for making that sort of game and did it well, or fuck csgo csgo, where team strats become necessary after a certain point

the issue is that battlefront and cod LITERALLY are running around and killing stuff.
its not any boiling down or summing up. they are running around and kill stuff.
the original battlefront games did have strategy, the maps were huge as fuck and running around literally would get you killed unless you were a jedi, and even then it wasnt that hard to get killed. if you didnt know the maps even remotely you wouldnt know anything about where the goals were whereas in battlefront i literally roamed around and little and was able to find the goals.

the original battlefronts maps were so big running around was less dangerous than it is in the newer one, and what sort of strategy are you talking about? it was literally just stand on the point for a few seconds and make sure your team had more points and that you were ultimately killing more people, since, if you dont remember, the games were determined based off of the side that lost all of its reinforcements first, while in battlefront ea the objective actually matters, which makes it different from cod as well, since most cod gamemodes boil down to kills as well. the new bf makes it easy to run around and kill people, but if youre not at least killing the people who are trying to do objective, youre going to lose

running around was far more dangerous, you could sniped from just about anywhere.
the strategy was that almost everybody in those games pushed the objectives and pushed for them. people would try NOT to get killed BECAUSE of the fact that you could run out of reinforcements

and youve done nothing to dispute the point that its not a COD reskin aside from mention powerups, which was the reason i put it in a spoiler, because its not quite the same method of obtaining them, yet it is the same purpose.

cod: 2 gun system primary/secondary, small maps that are essentially a series of boxes, loadout of limited items and/or(in the newer ones) perks, with no sort of coop(unless they added it in the newer ones i havent played) but having a singleplayer campaign

bettlefront: 1 primary weapon, choice of 2 cards which could give anything from a sidearm to a jetpack(unlike cod's perks which give things like faster speed or whatever), large and open maps(for the most part), more diverse gamemodes, mesh of vehicles and infantry(though not well-executed), a few different types of coop while not having a singleplayer

good enough??

The general gameplay still runs the same path of "Run around and kill what you see, occasionally do goals"
theres very little if any strategy to either of the games other then "be faster then your enemy"
sure there are minor tweaks as in the card system which was incredibly shittily implemented but they dont change the general gameplay by much.

EVERY FPS is run around kill what you see and occasionally do goals

no they really arent. nowhere near to the extent of battlefront atleast.
try playing insurgency just running around killing everything.
try playing one of the most widely known and best fps every, counter strike just running around killing everything

not knowing the map and general strategies literally gets you killed before you can get more then a couple kills.

been playing Counter strike for about 10 years on and off now

i could also be lieing about this, just as much as you could be.

and my father was on one of the top 10 teams of counter strike in the entire world.
i learnt plenty from him

that's cool, never been too into the esports side of it. just play it cause I've enjoyed it you know.

neither have i, i dont hardly enjoy playing cs or csgo
more of an insurgency guy.

I havn't played insurgency since it was a re-skinned CS mod that even used dust (was fun though) Counter Strike is running around killing people (or sitting on a counter with an awp) and planting a bomb or rescuing hostages which is an objective mate.

counter strike is far from running around killing people
you need to communicate and effectively eliminate targets with teamwork
the best of just about any teams ever did this, even casual ones that sucked at 1 on 1 could decimate great players with teamwork.

I know what counter strike is man. just the way you described is pretty much just a generic way of describing the fps genre.

that sort of thing doesnt happen at all in battlefront and probably rarely in cod.
its not running around killing shit
its using teamwork, map knowlege and knowledge of the weapons to eliminate your enemies, not mindlessly killing shit.

the problem is CS is a tacticle shooter the onlys ones getting into that are Rainbow Six, Insurgency and Socom back in the Socom 2 days. Battlefront is more of that arena style in the way of battlefield, CoD, Doom and Quake. just hop in and blast things you know?

i dont care for that style of game, its rediculous and just rage inducing at this point.
its the same reason the communities are usually populated with screaming pre-teens.

mmhmm. It's why If I do play Battlefront etc I usually have them muted with music playing in the background. Shame it's starting to happen to CS as well really should get into insurgency. How active is the playerbase for insurgency these days?

i saw that happening with CS go, its the main reason why i didnt buy it over break
insurgency the standalone release is going pretty well, lots of servers and players.

if you're gonna play CS stick to CSS to be honest. Also that's good to here I'll have to pick it up when I get a chance

true enough, but most major shooters could be summed up by "run around and kill what you see, occasionally doing goals." That was what the original battlefront games were as well. If you're looking for a tactical type of thing, go play R6S, where the devs are actually known for making that sort of game and did it well, or fuck csgo csgo, where team strats become necessary after a certain point

the issue is that battlefront and cod LITERALLY are running around and killing stuff.
its not any boiling down or summing up. they are running around and kill stuff.
the original battlefront games did have strategy, the maps were huge as fuck and running around literally would get you killed unless you were a jedi, and even then it wasnt that hard to get killed. if you didnt know the maps even remotely you wouldnt know anything about where the goals were whereas in battlefront i literally roamed around and little and was able to find the goals.

the original battlefronts maps were so big running around was less dangerous than it is in the newer one, and what sort of strategy are you talking about? it was literally just stand on the point for a few seconds and make sure your team had more points and that you were ultimately killing more people, since, if you dont remember, the games were determined based off of the side that lost all of its reinforcements first, while in battlefront ea the objective actually matters, which makes it different from cod as well, since most cod gamemodes boil down to kills as well. the new bf makes it easy to run around and kill people, but if youre not at least killing the people who are trying to do objective, youre going to lose

running around was far more dangerous, you could sniped from just about anywhere.
the strategy was that almost everybody in those games pushed the objectives and pushed for them. people would try NOT to get killed BECAUSE of the fact that you could run out of reinforcements

i never said fallout 4 didnt have flaws
battlefront has far too many, specifically that it is a cod clone with powerups which cod has mind you
it was also literally shit compared to the previous games
the literal only reason to play the new battlefront is that it has better graphics, other then that it is far worse then the previous games.

god damn if you think you can just say its a cod reskin and be done with it then fuck off.
The powerups in cod are given at certain numbers of kills, while theyre either always with you in SWBF or random around the map(which is an inherently flawed system but different from cod nevertheless). the entire loadout system of the two games is different as well, and what cod game was it that had the gamemodes where you played as the main characters from the series?? oh wait.
while BF2 was a better game, there are things in the new battlefront that are preferable, such as: people play the game(whoa playerbase matters in a multiplayer shooter? fuck me right) the gamemodes are more involved in whats actually going on instead of "go stand on the point and keep them form standing on the point" for the most part, except for the gamemodes that ARE the same gamemodes.

and youve done nothing to dispute the point that its not a COD reskin aside from mention powerups, which was the reason i put it in a spoiler, because its not quite the same method of obtaining them, yet it is the same purpose.

cod: 2 gun system primary/secondary, small maps that are essentially a series of boxes, loadout of limited items and/or(in the newer ones) perks, with no sort of coop(unless they added it in the newer ones i havent played) but having a singleplayer campaign

bettlefront: 1 primary weapon, choice of 2 cards which could give anything from a sidearm to a jetpack(unlike cod's perks which give things like faster speed or whatever), large and open maps(for the most part), more diverse gamemodes, mesh of vehicles and infantry(though not well-executed), a few different types of coop while not having a singleplayer

good enough??

The general gameplay still runs the same path of "Run around and kill what you see, occasionally do goals"
theres very little if any strategy to either of the games other then "be faster then your enemy"
sure there are minor tweaks as in the card system which was incredibly shittily implemented but they dont change the general gameplay by much.

EVERY FPS is run around kill what you see and occasionally do goals

no they really arent. nowhere near to the extent of battlefront atleast.
try playing insurgency just running around killing everything.
try playing one of the most widely known and best fps every, counter strike just running around killing everything

not knowing the map and general strategies literally gets you killed before you can get more then a couple kills.

been playing Counter strike for about 10 years on and off now

i could also be lieing about this, just as much as you could be.

and my father was on one of the top 10 teams of counter strike in the entire world.
i learnt plenty from him

that's cool, never been too into the esports side of it. just play it cause I've enjoyed it you know.

neither have i, i dont hardly enjoy playing cs or csgo
more of an insurgency guy.

I havn't played insurgency since it was a re-skinned CS mod that even used dust (was fun though) Counter Strike is running around killing people (or sitting on a counter with an awp) and planting a bomb or rescuing hostages which is an objective mate.

counter strike is far from running around killing people
you need to communicate and effectively eliminate targets with teamwork
the best of just about any teams ever did this, even casual ones that sucked at 1 on 1 could decimate great players with teamwork.

I know what counter strike is man. just the way you described is pretty much just a generic way of describing the fps genre.

that sort of thing doesnt happen at all in battlefront and probably rarely in cod.
its not running around killing shit
its using teamwork, map knowlege and knowledge of the weapons to eliminate your enemies, not mindlessly killing shit.

the problem is CS is a tacticle shooter the onlys ones getting into that are Rainbow Six, Insurgency and Socom back in the Socom 2 days. Battlefront is more of that arena style in the way of battlefield, CoD, Doom and Quake. just hop in and blast things you know?

i dont care for that style of game, its rediculous and just rage inducing at this point.
its the same reason the communities are usually populated with screaming pre-teens.

mmhmm. It's why If I do play Battlefront etc I usually have them muted with music playing in the background. Shame it's starting to happen to CS as well really should get into insurgency. How active is the playerbase for insurgency these days?

i saw that happening with CS go, its the main reason why i didnt buy it over break
insurgency the standalone release is going pretty well, lots of servers and players.

if you're gonna play CS stick to CSS to be honest. Also that's good to here I'll have to pick it up when I get a chance

true enough, but most major shooters could be summed up by "run around and kill what you see, occasionally doing goals." That was what the original battlefront games were as well. If you're looking for a tactical type of thing, go play R6S, where the devs are actually known for making that sort of game and did it well, or fuck csgo csgo, where team strats become necessary after a certain point

the issue is that battlefront and cod LITERALLY are running around and killing stuff.
its not any boiling down or summing up. they are running around and kill stuff.
the original battlefront games did have strategy, the maps were huge as fuck and running around literally would get you killed unless you were a jedi, and even then it wasnt that hard to get killed. if you didnt know the maps even remotely you wouldnt know anything about where the goals were whereas in battlefront i literally roamed around and little and was able to find the goals.

the original battlefronts maps were so big running around was less dangerous than it is in the newer one, and what sort of strategy are you talking about? it was literally just stand on the point for a few seconds and make sure your team had more points and that you were ultimately killing more people, since, if you dont remember, the games were determined based off of the side that lost all of its reinforcements first, while in battlefront ea the objective actually matters, which makes it different from cod as well, since most cod gamemodes boil down to kills as well. the new bf makes it easy to run around and kill people, but if youre not at least killing the people who are trying to do objective, youre going to lose

running around was far more dangerous, you could sniped from just about anywhere.
the strategy was that almost everybody in those games pushed the objectives and pushed for them. people would try NOT to get killed BECAUSE of the fact that you could run out of reinforcements

oh shit i forgot to say that i dont really like either game and that i think Fallout 4 is the better game of the two, but whatever