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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
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I guess I did...
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#89 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
It may make sense in other languages, but I have never once heard -ians, -ites, -ans, ever coupled with United States. In English, it doesnt sound right when coupling the two together. In other language it may translate well, but it has never caught on with Americans because it really doesnt sound right in English, or to us at least. Cultural differences may be different if youre across the pond in Europe, you may see America as a broad term that encompasses the entire culture of all the lands over here, but it really doesnt at least with the cultures on this side of the world. It is like saying that Russian is a term that defines many of the different countries that became independent after the USSR was dissolved. While it may somewhat fit it is not an accurate term, especially when used by those who live in the area in question. Originally Europeans used to call the land to the West, the Americas as a broad term, which fit, because they did not understand the differences between the land, location, peoples and cultures. When settled by the British, they were called the American colonies as the same sort of broad name as the Europeans generalized the land as being called. When founded as the United States of America, America was a part of name that was originally generalized by the Europeans who settled and named this land. As history progressed, the land was divided by name into: North, South, and Central. But America retained its original name, and citizens were and still are called Americans.

Im sure a Canadian and Mexican will understand specifically what is said by America and American, moreso than a European. It may be a broader term to you, but it is much more specific over here (assuming youre European).
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#91 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Look, mate, I won't enter in a history and sociology discussion here as to why Americans call themselves American, I'm just pointing out what I find strange, and maybe it's because I'm from Europe, maybe it's because it's plain strange. Every nation has it's own culture and we ought respect that, but I know mexicans, colombians and argentinian people that agree with me more than with the "It's the United States of America, so let's call it America" argument

In the end, all of this seems quite quaint to me, and it's rather amusing to see how anal "americans" get when you point this out

This is the last thing I've got to say about this topic, tho, ain't no use wasting more time discussing culturally subjective shit
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#90 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Or as another comparison:

South Africa. South Africa is the name of a country in the South of Africa. Their people would be called South Africans, but geographical nations in the South of Africa could also be called South Africans, despite not being from the country. Not saying they do, but this is just illustrating the point.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. The Americas (plural) is ALL of the countries in North, South, and Central America. If you were referring to citizens of the Americas (plural) in a very broad and almost useless way, you would say it as Americans. We simply do not do that, but if you lived across the pond, and you wanted a generic way of saying "everybody over there", then I could see why saying Americans and America are perceived as being self absorbed and self centered, but it is the way it is because it makes sense from the cultures on this side of the world, and may be somewhat confusing if youre from Europe.
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#85 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
What?
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#86 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
What what?
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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
#88 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
I guess I did...
#82 - That sounds like a really silly excuse to me, matey. Call it t…  [+] (9 new replies) 11/14/2015 on Dream team -1
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#83 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Possibly, but when you say Americans, what would people from the United States of America call themselves if not Americans? There are Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, but if US citizens were not Americans would we be United Statians or some nonsensical name? Thing is that there are vast differences between the cultures of South and Central America vs North America. To Lump all of the Americas in one category is not something that can be done because it is too broad. Despite being on a connected landmass, having divisions on identity makes a whole lot of sense. Europe and Asia are a single land mass with vastly different cultures and different identities.

You really cant call American citizens anything other than Americans because of the way the name of United States of America is set up. But if you had to set it up it would be like this:

Canada: Canadians (as a citizen), North Americans (as a larger subdivision of citizen based on the larger geographic location)
United States of America: Americans, North Americans
Mexico: Mexicans, North Americans (technically)
Costa Rico: Costa Ricans, Central Americans
Brazil: Brazilians, South Americans

This is also shorthand when the people of the USA call their country America. It is a part of the name of our country, and is just shorthanded name of the United States of America. Literally, I cannot break it down further to explain why we call ourselves Americans and why we call our country America sometimes. It is just a part of the name and has been so for over 200 years when the United States of America were founded.
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#84 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Well, you said it, they can call themselves United Statians, yeah, which is what they are called in some of the other countries and languages, we spaniards call them "estadounidenses", angloparlants call them "etats-uniens", it's not nonsensical, it makes a great deal of sense, actually

Here in Europe we have a pretty big deal of divisions, mate, there's central Europe, east Europe, scandinavian Europe, mediterranean Europe, which is where I live, and all those agrupations have also a quite diverse array of cultures and languages

The thing is, everything can be breaken apart in smaller and smaller regions, reaching eventually to neighborhoods and then families, in that sense you'd call me a Martínez, Fuencarralense, Madrileño, Castellano, Español, Mediterráneo, Europeo occidental, Europeo, but you won't see me as a spanish man call my country "Europe", or call myself "European" refering to my nationality, mate

And that's why the fact that the citizens of the United States don't have a demonym to refer to its pertenence to the US specifically and they use a word as big as "America" to refer to themselves... it just feels odd to me, matey, even if it's a deep ingrained cultural thing, it just feels wrong

And that's all I complain for
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#89 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
It may make sense in other languages, but I have never once heard -ians, -ites, -ans, ever coupled with United States. In English, it doesnt sound right when coupling the two together. In other language it may translate well, but it has never caught on with Americans because it really doesnt sound right in English, or to us at least. Cultural differences may be different if youre across the pond in Europe, you may see America as a broad term that encompasses the entire culture of all the lands over here, but it really doesnt at least with the cultures on this side of the world. It is like saying that Russian is a term that defines many of the different countries that became independent after the USSR was dissolved. While it may somewhat fit it is not an accurate term, especially when used by those who live in the area in question. Originally Europeans used to call the land to the West, the Americas as a broad term, which fit, because they did not understand the differences between the land, location, peoples and cultures. When settled by the British, they were called the American colonies as the same sort of broad name as the Europeans generalized the land as being called. When founded as the United States of America, America was a part of name that was originally generalized by the Europeans who settled and named this land. As history progressed, the land was divided by name into: North, South, and Central. But America retained its original name, and citizens were and still are called Americans.

Im sure a Canadian and Mexican will understand specifically what is said by America and American, moreso than a European. It may be a broader term to you, but it is much more specific over here (assuming youre European).
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#91 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Look, mate, I won't enter in a history and sociology discussion here as to why Americans call themselves American, I'm just pointing out what I find strange, and maybe it's because I'm from Europe, maybe it's because it's plain strange. Every nation has it's own culture and we ought respect that, but I know mexicans, colombians and argentinian people that agree with me more than with the "It's the United States of America, so let's call it America" argument

In the end, all of this seems quite quaint to me, and it's rather amusing to see how anal "americans" get when you point this out

This is the last thing I've got to say about this topic, tho, ain't no use wasting more time discussing culturally subjective shit
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#90 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Or as another comparison:

South Africa. South Africa is the name of a country in the South of Africa. Their people would be called South Africans, but geographical nations in the South of Africa could also be called South Africans, despite not being from the country. Not saying they do, but this is just illustrating the point.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. The Americas (plural) is ALL of the countries in North, South, and Central America. If you were referring to citizens of the Americas (plural) in a very broad and almost useless way, you would say it as Americans. We simply do not do that, but if you lived across the pond, and you wanted a generic way of saying "everybody over there", then I could see why saying Americans and America are perceived as being self absorbed and self centered, but it is the way it is because it makes sense from the cultures on this side of the world, and may be somewhat confusing if youre from Europe.
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#85 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
What?
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#86 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
What what?
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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
#88 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
I guess I did...
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#66 - Where I live America is a whole continent which can be dividie…  [+] (11 new replies) 11/14/2015 on Dream team -1
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#80 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Technically we are not the United States, but the United States of America, I already acknowledged it in the former comment, but with the only country in the Americas with America literally IN its name and the fact that there are 3 subdivisions of North, Central, and South America, when North, Central, and South are not mentioned with America, it is most likely referring to the nation vs the entire landmass.
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#82 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
That sounds like a really silly excuse to me, matey. Call it the United States, the States, USA, but calling it plain "America" just creates unnecessary confussion, especially when one talks about "americans" or "american things" refering to the US culture alone, when the "American" culture as a whole is a bit tad bigger and richer than that, and it includes a shitton of different nations, languages and cultures

I don't know, man, maybe it's because of the language gap, but when somebody calls the US "America"... it just reeks of americentrism to me, matey
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#83 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Possibly, but when you say Americans, what would people from the United States of America call themselves if not Americans? There are Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, but if US citizens were not Americans would we be United Statians or some nonsensical name? Thing is that there are vast differences between the cultures of South and Central America vs North America. To Lump all of the Americas in one category is not something that can be done because it is too broad. Despite being on a connected landmass, having divisions on identity makes a whole lot of sense. Europe and Asia are a single land mass with vastly different cultures and different identities.

You really cant call American citizens anything other than Americans because of the way the name of United States of America is set up. But if you had to set it up it would be like this:

Canada: Canadians (as a citizen), North Americans (as a larger subdivision of citizen based on the larger geographic location)
United States of America: Americans, North Americans
Mexico: Mexicans, North Americans (technically)
Costa Rico: Costa Ricans, Central Americans
Brazil: Brazilians, South Americans

This is also shorthand when the people of the USA call their country America. It is a part of the name of our country, and is just shorthanded name of the United States of America. Literally, I cannot break it down further to explain why we call ourselves Americans and why we call our country America sometimes. It is just a part of the name and has been so for over 200 years when the United States of America were founded.
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#84 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Well, you said it, they can call themselves United Statians, yeah, which is what they are called in some of the other countries and languages, we spaniards call them "estadounidenses", angloparlants call them "etats-uniens", it's not nonsensical, it makes a great deal of sense, actually

Here in Europe we have a pretty big deal of divisions, mate, there's central Europe, east Europe, scandinavian Europe, mediterranean Europe, which is where I live, and all those agrupations have also a quite diverse array of cultures and languages

The thing is, everything can be breaken apart in smaller and smaller regions, reaching eventually to neighborhoods and then families, in that sense you'd call me a Martínez, Fuencarralense, Madrileño, Castellano, Español, Mediterráneo, Europeo occidental, Europeo, but you won't see me as a spanish man call my country "Europe", or call myself "European" refering to my nationality, mate

And that's why the fact that the citizens of the United States don't have a demonym to refer to its pertenence to the US specifically and they use a word as big as "America" to refer to themselves... it just feels odd to me, matey, even if it's a deep ingrained cultural thing, it just feels wrong

And that's all I complain for
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#89 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
It may make sense in other languages, but I have never once heard -ians, -ites, -ans, ever coupled with United States. In English, it doesnt sound right when coupling the two together. In other language it may translate well, but it has never caught on with Americans because it really doesnt sound right in English, or to us at least. Cultural differences may be different if youre across the pond in Europe, you may see America as a broad term that encompasses the entire culture of all the lands over here, but it really doesnt at least with the cultures on this side of the world. It is like saying that Russian is a term that defines many of the different countries that became independent after the USSR was dissolved. While it may somewhat fit it is not an accurate term, especially when used by those who live in the area in question. Originally Europeans used to call the land to the West, the Americas as a broad term, which fit, because they did not understand the differences between the land, location, peoples and cultures. When settled by the British, they were called the American colonies as the same sort of broad name as the Europeans generalized the land as being called. When founded as the United States of America, America was a part of name that was originally generalized by the Europeans who settled and named this land. As history progressed, the land was divided by name into: North, South, and Central. But America retained its original name, and citizens were and still are called Americans.

Im sure a Canadian and Mexican will understand specifically what is said by America and American, moreso than a European. It may be a broader term to you, but it is much more specific over here (assuming youre European).
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#91 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Look, mate, I won't enter in a history and sociology discussion here as to why Americans call themselves American, I'm just pointing out what I find strange, and maybe it's because I'm from Europe, maybe it's because it's plain strange. Every nation has it's own culture and we ought respect that, but I know mexicans, colombians and argentinian people that agree with me more than with the "It's the United States of America, so let's call it America" argument

In the end, all of this seems quite quaint to me, and it's rather amusing to see how anal "americans" get when you point this out

This is the last thing I've got to say about this topic, tho, ain't no use wasting more time discussing culturally subjective shit
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#90 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Or as another comparison:

South Africa. South Africa is the name of a country in the South of Africa. Their people would be called South Africans, but geographical nations in the South of Africa could also be called South Africans, despite not being from the country. Not saying they do, but this is just illustrating the point.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. The Americas (plural) is ALL of the countries in North, South, and Central America. If you were referring to citizens of the Americas (plural) in a very broad and almost useless way, you would say it as Americans. We simply do not do that, but if you lived across the pond, and you wanted a generic way of saying "everybody over there", then I could see why saying Americans and America are perceived as being self absorbed and self centered, but it is the way it is because it makes sense from the cultures on this side of the world, and may be somewhat confusing if youre from Europe.
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#85 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
What?
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#86 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
What what?
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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
#88 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
I guess I did...
#57 - Where I live America is a continent, not a country, so I can'…  [+] (18 new replies) 11/14/2015 on Dream team +8
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#79 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Yeah I can see how it may sound wrong. It is just differences in how we were brought up. While the states are officially called the United States of America, we often shorthand it to USA, US, United States, or America. To say the USA's name in full every time is lengthy and it is easier to shorthand. Now when we say America you may think of North America, but there is a South America, and Central America as well. As the only country in North America with America in it's name, it can be somewhat reasonably deduced that we are talking about the USA.
#64 - anon (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is landmasses that consists of two continents named "North America" and "South America" and in one of those continents is a country named "United States of America."

So I can't help myself when someone refers to the landmasses as a single continent, it just sounds wrong, mate.
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#66 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is a whole continent which can be dividied in three sub-continents named "North America", "South America" and "Central America", and the United States are plain named "United States"

So I can't help myself when some piece of shit anon tries to outsmart me, it just sounds wrong, mate
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#80 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Technically we are not the United States, but the United States of America, I already acknowledged it in the former comment, but with the only country in the Americas with America literally IN its name and the fact that there are 3 subdivisions of North, Central, and South America, when North, Central, and South are not mentioned with America, it is most likely referring to the nation vs the entire landmass.
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#82 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
That sounds like a really silly excuse to me, matey. Call it the United States, the States, USA, but calling it plain "America" just creates unnecessary confussion, especially when one talks about "americans" or "american things" refering to the US culture alone, when the "American" culture as a whole is a bit tad bigger and richer than that, and it includes a shitton of different nations, languages and cultures

I don't know, man, maybe it's because of the language gap, but when somebody calls the US "America"... it just reeks of americentrism to me, matey
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#83 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Possibly, but when you say Americans, what would people from the United States of America call themselves if not Americans? There are Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, but if US citizens were not Americans would we be United Statians or some nonsensical name? Thing is that there are vast differences between the cultures of South and Central America vs North America. To Lump all of the Americas in one category is not something that can be done because it is too broad. Despite being on a connected landmass, having divisions on identity makes a whole lot of sense. Europe and Asia are a single land mass with vastly different cultures and different identities.

You really cant call American citizens anything other than Americans because of the way the name of United States of America is set up. But if you had to set it up it would be like this:

Canada: Canadians (as a citizen), North Americans (as a larger subdivision of citizen based on the larger geographic location)
United States of America: Americans, North Americans
Mexico: Mexicans, North Americans (technically)
Costa Rico: Costa Ricans, Central Americans
Brazil: Brazilians, South Americans

This is also shorthand when the people of the USA call their country America. It is a part of the name of our country, and is just shorthanded name of the United States of America. Literally, I cannot break it down further to explain why we call ourselves Americans and why we call our country America sometimes. It is just a part of the name and has been so for over 200 years when the United States of America were founded.
User avatar
#84 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Well, you said it, they can call themselves United Statians, yeah, which is what they are called in some of the other countries and languages, we spaniards call them "estadounidenses", angloparlants call them "etats-uniens", it's not nonsensical, it makes a great deal of sense, actually

Here in Europe we have a pretty big deal of divisions, mate, there's central Europe, east Europe, scandinavian Europe, mediterranean Europe, which is where I live, and all those agrupations have also a quite diverse array of cultures and languages

The thing is, everything can be breaken apart in smaller and smaller regions, reaching eventually to neighborhoods and then families, in that sense you'd call me a Martínez, Fuencarralense, Madrileño, Castellano, Español, Mediterráneo, Europeo occidental, Europeo, but you won't see me as a spanish man call my country "Europe", or call myself "European" refering to my nationality, mate

And that's why the fact that the citizens of the United States don't have a demonym to refer to its pertenence to the US specifically and they use a word as big as "America" to refer to themselves... it just feels odd to me, matey, even if it's a deep ingrained cultural thing, it just feels wrong

And that's all I complain for
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#89 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
It may make sense in other languages, but I have never once heard -ians, -ites, -ans, ever coupled with United States. In English, it doesnt sound right when coupling the two together. In other language it may translate well, but it has never caught on with Americans because it really doesnt sound right in English, or to us at least. Cultural differences may be different if youre across the pond in Europe, you may see America as a broad term that encompasses the entire culture of all the lands over here, but it really doesnt at least with the cultures on this side of the world. It is like saying that Russian is a term that defines many of the different countries that became independent after the USSR was dissolved. While it may somewhat fit it is not an accurate term, especially when used by those who live in the area in question. Originally Europeans used to call the land to the West, the Americas as a broad term, which fit, because they did not understand the differences between the land, location, peoples and cultures. When settled by the British, they were called the American colonies as the same sort of broad name as the Europeans generalized the land as being called. When founded as the United States of America, America was a part of name that was originally generalized by the Europeans who settled and named this land. As history progressed, the land was divided by name into: North, South, and Central. But America retained its original name, and citizens were and still are called Americans.

Im sure a Canadian and Mexican will understand specifically what is said by America and American, moreso than a European. It may be a broader term to you, but it is much more specific over here (assuming youre European).
User avatar
#91 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Look, mate, I won't enter in a history and sociology discussion here as to why Americans call themselves American, I'm just pointing out what I find strange, and maybe it's because I'm from Europe, maybe it's because it's plain strange. Every nation has it's own culture and we ought respect that, but I know mexicans, colombians and argentinian people that agree with me more than with the "It's the United States of America, so let's call it America" argument

In the end, all of this seems quite quaint to me, and it's rather amusing to see how anal "americans" get when you point this out

This is the last thing I've got to say about this topic, tho, ain't no use wasting more time discussing culturally subjective shit
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#90 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Or as another comparison:

South Africa. South Africa is the name of a country in the South of Africa. Their people would be called South Africans, but geographical nations in the South of Africa could also be called South Africans, despite not being from the country. Not saying they do, but this is just illustrating the point.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. The Americas (plural) is ALL of the countries in North, South, and Central America. If you were referring to citizens of the Americas (plural) in a very broad and almost useless way, you would say it as Americans. We simply do not do that, but if you lived across the pond, and you wanted a generic way of saying "everybody over there", then I could see why saying Americans and America are perceived as being self absorbed and self centered, but it is the way it is because it makes sense from the cultures on this side of the world, and may be somewhat confusing if youre from Europe.
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#85 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
What?
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#86 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
What what?
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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
#88 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
I guess I did...
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#58 - warioteam (11/14/2015) [-]
it just makes you sound like a overliteral prude, but i can see why i guess
#68 - adamks (11/14/2015) [-]
Practically anywhere in the world America would mean the two continents, not the super narcissistic country.
#63 - narwhalsforhire (11/14/2015) [-]
most of the rest of the world refers to either North America or both north and South America as "America." People in the US (maybe some in EU and AUZ) are the only ones who call the USA America
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#62 - reican (11/14/2015) [-]
It makes him sound correct and not like a hick living in mountains where reading is considered witchcraft
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#56 - warioteam (11/14/2015) [-]
he means america as in the usa, sure its not technically right, but anyone who tries to be technically right are technically huge faggots
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#57 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is a continent, not a country, so I can't help myself, it just sounds wrong when somebody refers to the States as "America", it just sounds wrong, mate
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#79 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Yeah I can see how it may sound wrong. It is just differences in how we were brought up. While the states are officially called the United States of America, we often shorthand it to USA, US, United States, or America. To say the USA's name in full every time is lengthy and it is easier to shorthand. Now when we say America you may think of North America, but there is a South America, and Central America as well. As the only country in North America with America in it's name, it can be somewhat reasonably deduced that we are talking about the USA.
#64 - anon (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is landmasses that consists of two continents named "North America" and "South America" and in one of those continents is a country named "United States of America."

So I can't help myself when someone refers to the landmasses as a single continent, it just sounds wrong, mate.
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#66 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is a whole continent which can be dividied in three sub-continents named "North America", "South America" and "Central America", and the United States are plain named "United States"

So I can't help myself when some piece of shit anon tries to outsmart me, it just sounds wrong, mate
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#80 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Technically we are not the United States, but the United States of America, I already acknowledged it in the former comment, but with the only country in the Americas with America literally IN its name and the fact that there are 3 subdivisions of North, Central, and South America, when North, Central, and South are not mentioned with America, it is most likely referring to the nation vs the entire landmass.
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#82 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
That sounds like a really silly excuse to me, matey. Call it the United States, the States, USA, but calling it plain "America" just creates unnecessary confussion, especially when one talks about "americans" or "american things" refering to the US culture alone, when the "American" culture as a whole is a bit tad bigger and richer than that, and it includes a shitton of different nations, languages and cultures

I don't know, man, maybe it's because of the language gap, but when somebody calls the US "America"... it just reeks of americentrism to me, matey
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#83 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Possibly, but when you say Americans, what would people from the United States of America call themselves if not Americans? There are Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, but if US citizens were not Americans would we be United Statians or some nonsensical name? Thing is that there are vast differences between the cultures of South and Central America vs North America. To Lump all of the Americas in one category is not something that can be done because it is too broad. Despite being on a connected landmass, having divisions on identity makes a whole lot of sense. Europe and Asia are a single land mass with vastly different cultures and different identities.

You really cant call American citizens anything other than Americans because of the way the name of United States of America is set up. But if you had to set it up it would be like this:

Canada: Canadians (as a citizen), North Americans (as a larger subdivision of citizen based on the larger geographic location)
United States of America: Americans, North Americans
Mexico: Mexicans, North Americans (technically)
Costa Rico: Costa Ricans, Central Americans
Brazil: Brazilians, South Americans

This is also shorthand when the people of the USA call their country America. It is a part of the name of our country, and is just shorthanded name of the United States of America. Literally, I cannot break it down further to explain why we call ourselves Americans and why we call our country America sometimes. It is just a part of the name and has been so for over 200 years when the United States of America were founded.
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#84 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Well, you said it, they can call themselves United Statians, yeah, which is what they are called in some of the other countries and languages, we spaniards call them "estadounidenses", angloparlants call them "etats-uniens", it's not nonsensical, it makes a great deal of sense, actually

Here in Europe we have a pretty big deal of divisions, mate, there's central Europe, east Europe, scandinavian Europe, mediterranean Europe, which is where I live, and all those agrupations have also a quite diverse array of cultures and languages

The thing is, everything can be breaken apart in smaller and smaller regions, reaching eventually to neighborhoods and then families, in that sense you'd call me a Martínez, Fuencarralense, Madrileño, Castellano, Español, Mediterráneo, Europeo occidental, Europeo, but you won't see me as a spanish man call my country "Europe", or call myself "European" refering to my nationality, mate

And that's why the fact that the citizens of the United States don't have a demonym to refer to its pertenence to the US specifically and they use a word as big as "America" to refer to themselves... it just feels odd to me, matey, even if it's a deep ingrained cultural thing, it just feels wrong

And that's all I complain for
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#89 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
It may make sense in other languages, but I have never once heard -ians, -ites, -ans, ever coupled with United States. In English, it doesnt sound right when coupling the two together. In other language it may translate well, but it has never caught on with Americans because it really doesnt sound right in English, or to us at least. Cultural differences may be different if youre across the pond in Europe, you may see America as a broad term that encompasses the entire culture of all the lands over here, but it really doesnt at least with the cultures on this side of the world. It is like saying that Russian is a term that defines many of the different countries that became independent after the USSR was dissolved. While it may somewhat fit it is not an accurate term, especially when used by those who live in the area in question. Originally Europeans used to call the land to the West, the Americas as a broad term, which fit, because they did not understand the differences between the land, location, peoples and cultures. When settled by the British, they were called the American colonies as the same sort of broad name as the Europeans generalized the land as being called. When founded as the United States of America, America was a part of name that was originally generalized by the Europeans who settled and named this land. As history progressed, the land was divided by name into: North, South, and Central. But America retained its original name, and citizens were and still are called Americans.

Im sure a Canadian and Mexican will understand specifically what is said by America and American, moreso than a European. It may be a broader term to you, but it is much more specific over here (assuming youre European).
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#91 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Look, mate, I won't enter in a history and sociology discussion here as to why Americans call themselves American, I'm just pointing out what I find strange, and maybe it's because I'm from Europe, maybe it's because it's plain strange. Every nation has it's own culture and we ought respect that, but I know mexicans, colombians and argentinian people that agree with me more than with the "It's the United States of America, so let's call it America" argument

In the end, all of this seems quite quaint to me, and it's rather amusing to see how anal "americans" get when you point this out

This is the last thing I've got to say about this topic, tho, ain't no use wasting more time discussing culturally subjective shit
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#90 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Or as another comparison:

South Africa. South Africa is the name of a country in the South of Africa. Their people would be called South Africans, but geographical nations in the South of Africa could also be called South Africans, despite not being from the country. Not saying they do, but this is just illustrating the point.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. The Americas (plural) is ALL of the countries in North, South, and Central America. If you were referring to citizens of the Americas (plural) in a very broad and almost useless way, you would say it as Americans. We simply do not do that, but if you lived across the pond, and you wanted a generic way of saying "everybody over there", then I could see why saying Americans and America are perceived as being self absorbed and self centered, but it is the way it is because it makes sense from the cultures on this side of the world, and may be somewhat confusing if youre from Europe.
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#85 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
What?
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#86 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
What what?
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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
#88 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
I guess I did...
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#58 - warioteam (11/14/2015) [-]
it just makes you sound like a overliteral prude, but i can see why i guess
#68 - adamks (11/14/2015) [-]
Practically anywhere in the world America would mean the two continents, not the super narcissistic country.
#63 - narwhalsforhire (11/14/2015) [-]
most of the rest of the world refers to either North America or both north and South America as "America." People in the US (maybe some in EU and AUZ) are the only ones who call the USA America
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#62 - reican (11/14/2015) [-]
It makes him sound correct and not like a hick living in mountains where reading is considered witchcraft
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#75 - ChuckNorrisVsMRT (11/14/2015) [-]
No one wants to pronounce more than 3 syllabus for the US. If I, as a canadian said I was going to america and you had to find me. Where would you go? Would you consider that useless information and keep searching canada and mexico regardless?
No because that'd be retarded. Everyone knows what people mean when people say "america" which means that will eventually be the staple definition of america at this rate because that's how language evolves and are developed.
#53 - anon (11/14/2015) [-]
Don't be that guy, you know what he means.
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#54 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
But it's true...
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#56 - warioteam (11/14/2015) [-]
he means america as in the usa, sure its not technically right, but anyone who tries to be technically right are technically huge faggots
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#57 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is a continent, not a country, so I can't help myself, it just sounds wrong when somebody refers to the States as "America", it just sounds wrong, mate
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#79 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Yeah I can see how it may sound wrong. It is just differences in how we were brought up. While the states are officially called the United States of America, we often shorthand it to USA, US, United States, or America. To say the USA's name in full every time is lengthy and it is easier to shorthand. Now when we say America you may think of North America, but there is a South America, and Central America as well. As the only country in North America with America in it's name, it can be somewhat reasonably deduced that we are talking about the USA.
#64 - anon (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is landmasses that consists of two continents named "North America" and "South America" and in one of those continents is a country named "United States of America."

So I can't help myself when someone refers to the landmasses as a single continent, it just sounds wrong, mate.
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#66 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Where I live America is a whole continent which can be dividied in three sub-continents named "North America", "South America" and "Central America", and the United States are plain named "United States"

So I can't help myself when some piece of shit anon tries to outsmart me, it just sounds wrong, mate
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#80 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Technically we are not the United States, but the United States of America, I already acknowledged it in the former comment, but with the only country in the Americas with America literally IN its name and the fact that there are 3 subdivisions of North, Central, and South America, when North, Central, and South are not mentioned with America, it is most likely referring to the nation vs the entire landmass.
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#82 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
That sounds like a really silly excuse to me, matey. Call it the United States, the States, USA, but calling it plain "America" just creates unnecessary confussion, especially when one talks about "americans" or "american things" refering to the US culture alone, when the "American" culture as a whole is a bit tad bigger and richer than that, and it includes a shitton of different nations, languages and cultures

I don't know, man, maybe it's because of the language gap, but when somebody calls the US "America"... it just reeks of americentrism to me, matey
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#83 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Possibly, but when you say Americans, what would people from the United States of America call themselves if not Americans? There are Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, but if US citizens were not Americans would we be United Statians or some nonsensical name? Thing is that there are vast differences between the cultures of South and Central America vs North America. To Lump all of the Americas in one category is not something that can be done because it is too broad. Despite being on a connected landmass, having divisions on identity makes a whole lot of sense. Europe and Asia are a single land mass with vastly different cultures and different identities.

You really cant call American citizens anything other than Americans because of the way the name of United States of America is set up. But if you had to set it up it would be like this:

Canada: Canadians (as a citizen), North Americans (as a larger subdivision of citizen based on the larger geographic location)
United States of America: Americans, North Americans
Mexico: Mexicans, North Americans (technically)
Costa Rico: Costa Ricans, Central Americans
Brazil: Brazilians, South Americans

This is also shorthand when the people of the USA call their country America. It is a part of the name of our country, and is just shorthanded name of the United States of America. Literally, I cannot break it down further to explain why we call ourselves Americans and why we call our country America sometimes. It is just a part of the name and has been so for over 200 years when the United States of America were founded.
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#84 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Well, you said it, they can call themselves United Statians, yeah, which is what they are called in some of the other countries and languages, we spaniards call them "estadounidenses", angloparlants call them "etats-uniens", it's not nonsensical, it makes a great deal of sense, actually

Here in Europe we have a pretty big deal of divisions, mate, there's central Europe, east Europe, scandinavian Europe, mediterranean Europe, which is where I live, and all those agrupations have also a quite diverse array of cultures and languages

The thing is, everything can be breaken apart in smaller and smaller regions, reaching eventually to neighborhoods and then families, in that sense you'd call me a Martínez, Fuencarralense, Madrileño, Castellano, Español, Mediterráneo, Europeo occidental, Europeo, but you won't see me as a spanish man call my country "Europe", or call myself "European" refering to my nationality, mate

And that's why the fact that the citizens of the United States don't have a demonym to refer to its pertenence to the US specifically and they use a word as big as "America" to refer to themselves... it just feels odd to me, matey, even if it's a deep ingrained cultural thing, it just feels wrong

And that's all I complain for
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#89 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
It may make sense in other languages, but I have never once heard -ians, -ites, -ans, ever coupled with United States. In English, it doesnt sound right when coupling the two together. In other language it may translate well, but it has never caught on with Americans because it really doesnt sound right in English, or to us at least. Cultural differences may be different if youre across the pond in Europe, you may see America as a broad term that encompasses the entire culture of all the lands over here, but it really doesnt at least with the cultures on this side of the world. It is like saying that Russian is a term that defines many of the different countries that became independent after the USSR was dissolved. While it may somewhat fit it is not an accurate term, especially when used by those who live in the area in question. Originally Europeans used to call the land to the West, the Americas as a broad term, which fit, because they did not understand the differences between the land, location, peoples and cultures. When settled by the British, they were called the American colonies as the same sort of broad name as the Europeans generalized the land as being called. When founded as the United States of America, America was a part of name that was originally generalized by the Europeans who settled and named this land. As history progressed, the land was divided by name into: North, South, and Central. But America retained its original name, and citizens were and still are called Americans.

Im sure a Canadian and Mexican will understand specifically what is said by America and American, moreso than a European. It may be a broader term to you, but it is much more specific over here (assuming youre European).
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#91 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
Look, mate, I won't enter in a history and sociology discussion here as to why Americans call themselves American, I'm just pointing out what I find strange, and maybe it's because I'm from Europe, maybe it's because it's plain strange. Every nation has it's own culture and we ought respect that, but I know mexicans, colombians and argentinian people that agree with me more than with the "It's the United States of America, so let's call it America" argument

In the end, all of this seems quite quaint to me, and it's rather amusing to see how anal "americans" get when you point this out

This is the last thing I've got to say about this topic, tho, ain't no use wasting more time discussing culturally subjective shit
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#90 - ultimatebuttercup (11/14/2015) [-]
Or as another comparison:

South Africa. South Africa is the name of a country in the South of Africa. Their people would be called South Africans, but geographical nations in the South of Africa could also be called South Africans, despite not being from the country. Not saying they do, but this is just illustrating the point.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. The Americas (plural) is ALL of the countries in North, South, and Central America. If you were referring to citizens of the Americas (plural) in a very broad and almost useless way, you would say it as Americans. We simply do not do that, but if you lived across the pond, and you wanted a generic way of saying "everybody over there", then I could see why saying Americans and America are perceived as being self absorbed and self centered, but it is the way it is because it makes sense from the cultures on this side of the world, and may be somewhat confusing if youre from Europe.
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#85 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
What?
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#86 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
What what?
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#87 - breaken (11/14/2015) [-]
You said my name
#88 - agronimo (11/14/2015) [-]
I guess I did...
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#58 - warioteam (11/14/2015) [-]
it just makes you sound like a overliteral prude, but i can see why i guess
#68 - adamks (11/14/2015) [-]
Practically anywhere in the world America would mean the two continents, not the super narcissistic country.
#63 - narwhalsforhire (11/14/2015) [-]
most of the rest of the world refers to either North America or both north and South America as "America." People in the US (maybe some in EU and AUZ) are the only ones who call the USA America
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#62 - reican (11/14/2015) [-]
It makes him sound correct and not like a hick living in mountains where reading is considered witchcraft
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