I thought you get a call later saying he faked his death

Are you saying you want a child to potentially grow up in a household that didn't want it or can't support it? Let's face it, people in poverty get around a lot because there isn't much for them to do. Do you really want the two people living in a run down apartment who do heroin to have kids when they themselves don't want any? There are a lot of people who don't want to be and/or not ready to be parents(either psychologically or economically).

Don't even say "well they can put the kid(s) up or adoption!" because just let me fill you in on the little details. The adoption system is complete shit. It's a huge process to even get approved and most families want their own children. There are way more kids than families who want to adopt so they try to toss them at the families as soon as they can. The thing is that that family can be abusive. My friend went through multiple homes where she was beaten and raped. Yes the adoption people check in once in a while, but they don't check every day and if they find out the home is bad they put you right back in the adoption center to wait for another(which could be a long time) and you're essentially back to square one. If a kid isn't adopted when they reach a certain age, they are booted out onto the street because the adoption centers can't support adults or all homeless people would flock to them.

Besides, like shaddz said this isn't a debate on your morals. This is a debate on equality. The fact is that right now the parenthood system is incredibly unfair. It doesn't matter what the father wants. It's in the hands of the mother. If she wants to keep it then the father is forced to pay. If she doesn't then they are fine. If he doesn't want to keep it, but she does? She keeps it and he pays. If he wants to keep it, but she doesn't? She doesn't keep it. It's a completely unfair decision. It doesn't matter what the father wants whatsoever. It's all up to the mother. She now holds the outcome of two(assuming it's a single child and not twins/triplets) when it should be a shared responsibility. For it to be fair, if the father doesn't want to keep it, then he can opt out. If they are both truly equally responsible then they should both have equal rights in the outcome.

"Be a fucking responsible adult is the point, and if you have a fucking child take care of it, even if that means giving the mother money so she can provide a decent life for them and have them go to school without holes in their clothes and shit."

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You're grossly misunderstanding how shitty people can be. First of all, a lot of people who end up having children are absolute pieces of trash. There is an asshole on my street who is the physical representation of white trash redneck. Beats his kids and his wives(big shocker, he's had a few). He is also very short tempered and violent. He starts bar fights and assaults people. A few years ago he ripped this giant of a man out of his car and relentlessly punched his face because they guy was driving on Halloween and his family was in the middle of the road. The giant guy just stared at him and took the punches when he could have ripped him in two, but he didn't like violence. The trash guy spends more money on himself than the kids and hits them if they say anything he doesn't like. There are tons of people like that and you want to force them to be part of a child's life? Also, not everyone can afford children. What about two homeless people who shacked up and got prego? Who pays for and raises it? Don't say adoption because I already explained the flaws in it and it only creates a whole new problem. Being a responsible adult is not a law. You can't go to jail for swinging on the swing and refusing to get a job. You can't force people to do that so why would you just assume every parent would be a "fucking responsible adult" when you snap your fingers? It doesn't matter what your opinions are, parents are going to be as responsible or irresponsible as they damn well please. Your "advice" will mean jack shit when it comes to people who simply don't care. Another problem is that the mother has no obligation to spend all the child support money on the children. She could stick tot he bare minimum and spend the rest on herself. People also can skip out on paying child support if they don't have a job. My dad owes my mom over a decade of child support for two kids so obviously people get away with not paying.

what kid, we are talking early stages where abortion is an option. your own moral preference doesn't change the law, until THAT debate is settled, that is how it is, and should be, your opinion is just that, an opinion. Try learn science before you decide what defines a life as separate from a developing bundle of cells and exactly how they differentiate at that stage.