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Sven, your government doesn't even allow you to know the current crime stats due to the impact refugees have had on them. You've no room to talk.
Unlike your government?
The government that has more than once has said the wage gap is a problem
The government that is OPENLY CORRUPT
The government that didnt even try to hide it covering for Shillary
The point is that I'm not willing to trade my liberties away, knowing that my government is a corrupt sack of shit as are most.
There are scant times in history where individuals existed that sought good for others to the degree that they would've ever upheld such codified moral understanding as certain inalienable rights, and it is not this era for sure.
So again, so much for trading that liberty for security, eh faggot?
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Your point is pretty meaningless considering that it still clearly works since your country has far more murders and crime even though you havent invited the religion of peace with infinite get out of jail free cards
More people = more absolute crime
Relatively speaking, there's hardly a difference except at least we know where the crime is occurring, who is perpetrating it, and who is being victimized.
Let's talk three major categories of crime: Murder, Rape, and Assault
Allow me to break it down:
US pop. = ~323.1 Million
Sweden pop. = ~10 million
US Murder rate / 100,000 = (17250/323,100,000)x100,000 = 5.3
Sweden Murder rate / 100,000 = (338/10,000,000)x100,000 = 3.4
Oh look, with only a tiny fraction of our population, you still manage a murder rate that's 63% of ours. But wait, there's more!
Depending on the legal definition used, the US rape rate / 100,000 is as follows
New (114,730/320,100,000)x100,000 = 41.2
Old (6,607/320,100,000)x100,000 = 25.1
Man, those rates sure do seem high. I wonder how Sweden stacks up?
Sweden rape rate/100,000 = (6,715/10,000,000)x100,000 = 67.15
Well fuck me in the ass, you Swedes sure seem to enjoy raping!
And so US rape rate only 61% or 37% that of Sweden's, with respect to definition, despite a vast population? Well gosh, I sure hope we learn to contain our redneck urges and don't pillage our way through college campuses. Better yet, this doesn't even touch on sexual assault - which is included in US statistics for rape but is accounted for separately by category in Sweden.
But what about assault? The US has a fair amount of annual brawls from Independence Day to Black Friday shopping - surely we're just absolute brutes?
I'll break the US down by aggravated assault and simple assault; Swedish assault shares no distinctions as I can see, so I'll compare it to both categories individually and overall.
US Aggravated Assault/100,000 = (803,007/320,100,000)x100,000 = 250.86
US Simple Assault/100,000 =(1,078,808/320,100,000)x100,000 = 337.02
US Assault (combined)/100,000 = (1,881,815/320,100,000)x 100,000 = 587.88
Hot damn, we sure love wailing each other around in the US of A. Let's check up on those Swedes!
Sweden Assault/100,000 = (88,576/10,000,000) x 100,000 = 885.76
Wow! Hockey sure runs in the blood you're spilling everywhere! The Swedish assault rate is 350% the US aggravated assault rate, 262% the US simple assault rate, and just 150% the combined total US rates.
As far as methodology goes, I used the most recently available 2016 FBI stats for the US and 2016 Total reported offense stats from Sweden's National Council for Crime Prevention. Populations are only rough estimates to the nearest 1,000,000, which does affect my math a little from those reflecting exact population, but insignificantly so.
Overall, my point remains. You've traded a shit ton of your liberties for a negligible amount of security, if any at all. Your government's failed sociological experiments are fucking your countrymen sideways, yet you stand by the defense that "it's not as bad as if we had guns everywhere."
The US has guns everywhere, a vastly more ethnically mixed population and culture, yet its victimization rates are only just barely higher for murder and astronomically less by the other two categories by huge margins.
In spite of your (mostly) homogeneous culture, social programs, and extreme government control, you face greater rates of crime than anywhere in Clapistan. Meanwhile, the factors contributing to these issues are only ever increasing due to the aforementioned self destructive policies of your government.
At least I can safely that if my country falls apart into an absolute clusterfuck of calamity, I'll have the opportunity to adequately defend myself, whether it be from the tyrannical government or hordes of looters. As for you, my Swedish FJer, I cannot say the same.
You act like having 40% less murder is something minor, are you retarded?
And you seriously bring up the rape statistics when we use different systems?
In Sweden all the rapes of one rapist counts as separate cases, we also included sexual harassment in it, so it bloated like crazy, not surprised you dont know something that has been debunked several dozens of times though
One reason why we have more assault is because we actually report assault when you just go home after getting your ass beat
And are you retarded? Why would you separate the aggravated and simple assault rates and then compare them to our combined?
We still have far more security than you do, and literally ANY country with laws have traded rights for security
Also, while were at it, lets look at the murder rates compared, according to wikipedia
your country has 4.88 murders per a 100000 while we have 1.15, thats 4 times more murders, but no you dont have any problems there
And i have a gun, so i could defend myself just fine, difference is i had to prove myself mature and an adult before i could get mine, also my country doesnt actually have hordes of looters, unlike yours i guess
What's that you say, cultural differences play a part in crime?
I thought it was simply because our barbaric laws didn't outlaw all the guns.
And yes, I'm being facetious because we, too, are required to undergo background checks and safety courses depending on the firearms. You act as if the US is a lawless wasteland, yet you can't account for the differences of crime rates with evidence.
Citing wikipedia, let alone a wikipedia with old data, is a horrid defense of your country's crime epidemic. Note how the wikipedia page cites 2015 data while the 2016 data is what I have used. Additionally, note the spike that you have incurred over the past year - coincidence, Sven?
By the way, we don't quantify rape incidents per rapist either, but per rape. How you see that as a potential discrepancy boggles me. Cry all you want about how it doesn't really reflect the situation, but the rapes happened either way.
I made the effort to breakdown our assault categories individually because that's how they are reported - I then did the individual comparisons and the collective comparison for the added benefit of showing how pants on head retarded you are for believing your country commits less violent crime in any case.
Nonetheless, you can insist all you want that it's "not so bad" over yonder in Cuckland, or that the US is a land of godless criminals seeking to blast each other away. You're wrong either way. Presenting how many multitudes of countries that does things the "proper" way by trading away rights won't do anything to convince me that I'm wrong for seeking to secure mine, but rather that there just that many fools who have surrendered themselves entirely to the whims of their government.
The US may not be perfect, but the Constitution is codified such that there is an understanding that all people have certain inalienable rights - meaning that they should never be infringed upon. Every day, political figures in the US seem to be willing to do whatever it takes to remove these rights in order to "secure the nation," when in reality such is the necessity for moving towards tyranny. You've no room to speak when you aren't even allowed to read a book for it's potential to "radicalize you," nor when child marriage is de facto condoned by your government because removing them from the situation might offend the sensibilities of a girl's adult husband.
Is it that you are a living doormat that you support restricting the rights of the people?
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You gave literally no reason why anything i said was wrong, you just throw insults like they make you right
Heres a source on how our rape statistics work
Not to mention even with our "crime epidemics" we still have far lower crime rates than you
You go "Nonetheless, you can insist all you want that it's "not so bad" over yonder in Cuckland, or that the US is a land of godless criminals seeking to blast each other away" like it means something but have literally nothing to back it up with
I can also GUARANTEE that literally any crime that has happened here happens in the US as well, you seriously think your muslims dont have child brides?
Keep on acting like a retard, youre enforcing every bad stereotype about your country
Dear God, is your memory shot entirely? I'm not going to repeat the same statistic when making the same point.
You simply do not have a lower crime rate. I emphatically proved such with the absurd amount of evidence I provided on the matter.
I will thank you for trying to provide the cultural context of Sweden and rape, but that which you have provided simply discusses the continuum of violence that precedes and follows sexual harassment, among other crimes, towards women. According to the Swedish penal code,
Anyone who, through abuse or otherwise by force or by threat of criminal offense, forces a person into sexual intercourse or to undertake or withstand another sexual act which, in view of the gravity of the violation, is comparable to intercourse, shall be convicted of rape to imprisonment for at least two and no more than six years.
This is comparable to the new US definition of rape, which is as follows: Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. Attempts or assaults to commit rape are also included; however, statutory rape and incest are excluded.
When I worked through the stats, I specifically included only those instances of crime that were relevant - e.g. actual reported rapes / population - and excluded those results which were obviously not, though they might have otherwise fallen under the definition - e.g. sexual misconduct by groping. By my misunderstanding of the law, I actually underestimated the "rape" rate of Sweden, according to legal definition, but have given a real rate according to actual rapes that have occurred, which is still incredibly higher than the US rape rate, whether in consideration of the new or legacy definition of the act.
As I have said before, YES you have less numerical crime in that there are less crimes committed. This is the reality of having a nation of 10 million versus a nation of 320+ million.
However, as a nation, the crime rates in the two particular instances of Assault and Rape exhibited in Sweden far exceed those found in the United States. If you do not understand the rate at which something occurs relative to population, there is no way we can continue a discussion regarding crime per capita.
My insults are a reflection of my frustration that you obviously do not comprehend the meaning of the numbers that I have presented to you, which is that Sweden, despite your best wishes, has an incredibly high crime victimization rate, even compared to a supposedly lawless place like the US. Even considering old data aggregates that do not account for the recent rise in crime due to refugees, Sweden ranks high among nations globally for assault and rape, even moreso than some 3rd world nations.
Do not try to deflect the reality that is the decline in your nation by stating that bad things are also happening here. It's one of those unspoken realities that bad things are obviously occurring, such as modern slavery in the first world, but our government is not presently seeking to justify such practices so as not to offend their culture.
I will speak out against such vile efforts to displace what I see as good in America the same as I speak out against those that occur in Sweden now, should it ever happen here. However, that is not presently the case, and so it is Sweden, rather than the US that is dealing with a major cultural dilemma.
Not only do you seem inept, based on your comprehension of what I have laid before you, but ignorant as well. You consistently reject reality and espouse nonsense in an effort to discredit me, but you've provided the least evidence, let alone that which is substantive, to disprove anything I have said.
So I say again, fix your own problems, Swedecuck. The US has a decent handle on its domestic affairs by comparison.
Not really, you know nothing of Sweden, pretty much all you know is from shit news that are our version of CNN
A big difference between the Swedish rape statistic and other countries is again that we count every single rape, in other countries it tends to be if a man rapes a woman a hundred times that is one case, for us it is a hundred cases
Theres an ENORMOUS difference between penetration and just sexual acts
I never counted just crimes, only per capita like anyone with half a brain would
The link i shared is the study upon which the rape statistics was based upon, in fact the statistic that came up with the bullshit 1/4 women get raped
Keep acting like youve won, you havent actually disproven my murder statement other than saying "wikipedia is bad"
Keep pretending youre doing fine and that at least the rest of the world is falling towards your level
You are basically judging my country the same way as if i judged your country entirely by BLM, antifa and the people who think Trump is evil incarnate
It's like you aren't even looking at my posts. I'm telling you the per capita rates. I'm showing you the results for such. I'm telling you that we record every act, similar to you, and sometimes even more than that. Despite this reality, Sweden has worse per capita rates of crime, so I don't understand how this could possibly be misunderstood.
I don't give a shit about the murder statement because, as I myself admitted, the US is higher, but nearly inconsequentially so considering the 2016 murder rate for Sweden vs. the US 2016 rate. The point of a murder rate is that it indicates your likelihood of being murdered, regardless of the population size. Now, that will obviously change if you don't live in some shitheap that is constantly engulfed in chaos - e.g. US - Compton, Sweden - Malmo (? wherever refugees are typically processed and set upon the public). It doesn't remove the reality of crime that show those averages.
Idk if you've read that deal, but I took the time to do so and I do not see how they are prescribing the approach to describing sexual crime. Instead, I see simply the various rates of different sexual assault that they then describe as part of a continuum - to which I agree and had already noted such distinctions in the 2016 Sweden crime stats as quoted for the purpose of my little "presentation."
We're obviously at an impasse because you're stuck on the notion of being right without discussing any evidence-based concept as to why I'm wrong whereas I'm apparently going to disagree with you on some similar arbitrary basis. Obviously we both see the other as wrong, and perhaps that's culture speaking, but I don't give a fuck anymore, Swedish Chef.
I will say, most of Europe judges the US that way, or at least appears to, so I wouldn't have been surprised if you had.
I truly do wish you the best as Sweden does seem to be getting the worst of the EU policies and its own liberal agendas.
You think being 40% more likely to get murdered is some small inconsequential rate?
And thats by your numbers
I see them as inconsequential as to the ownership of guns because our murder rate is inclusive of a ton of gang violence, particularly along the borders and within inner cities. Meanwhile, in a supposed Liberal utopia as Sweden, the murder rate is suspiciously high in spite of gun control efforts.
Of the 17250 murders that occurred in the US, ~63% (10,857) occurred with a firearm.
Of the 338 murders that occurred in Sweden, ~23% (76) occurred with a firearm.
Okay, still a fair amount of murder without firearms occurring in both countries (1/3 and 3/4, respectively) and the US obviously takes the cake. However, how likely is it for you or me to be victimized?
We have our average rates, of course, but taking the example of gang violence in the US - which is responsible for 30% of violent crime in the US, on average - we can see that there are about 5,175 gang murders, 63% of which (3,260) with a firearm.
Subtracting gang gun murders (3,260) from total US gun murders (10,857), we find that only 7,597, or 44%, of non-gang related US murders are at the end of a barrel.
So, assuming that you do not live in a US region of heavy gang activity, your risk of murder due to firearms becomes (7,597/320,100,000)x100,000 =2.37
This rate is more in line with reality, in that the majority of the US does not face an epidemic of violence. Rather, it is certain states that face very high rates of gang related violence that inflate the crime stats, murder in particular, to 3rd world levels, similar to how your epidemic of refugees is likely contributing to the 3rd world levels of rape you face in Sweden.
I say that the murder rate is inconsequential because it does not reflect the reality of life in the US, where you can literally live a geographical equivalent of several countries away from any severe crime whatsoever. A crime spike in Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas has less impact on Helena, Montana than Branson, Missouri, for example. Similarly, what happens in Malmo is less likely to impact some place like Orsa.
However, the issue is that if the refugee problem continues to grow and does begin to impact such places further off, you are all still under the some state governance that impedes your civil liberties. Eventually, the far off "small-town" Sweden feels the effects of dangerous refugee replacement policy, but is unable to speak freely against it nor defend themselves adequately against potential waves of violence. The same can be said for the US with gang violence if it continues to proliferate, which is why both nations should seek immediate practical ends to their respective problems.
You do realize that its the same in Sweden right?
Not the gang violence stuff, but some places being more dangerous than others
Yes, I literally made that equivalency.
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