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Ugh i'm done arguing with someone who does not even know the basics of zoology. Have run rolling in your own ignorance but i have better things to do than arguing on the internet.

O god this is like teaching biology to a elementary school kid....

Macroevolution and microevolution are the same thing, with the same underlying mechanism, with one applied over a longer time scale.

Studies in zoology/entomology have examined several cases of speciation in vertebratesas well as invertebrates. Speciation is the starting point of evolution, that one animal can change is such a way that it no longer breeds with the original animal.
One frog species was verifiably traced down the east coast of the United States noting the changes that took place the further south it went. In the end, the Maine representative and the Georgia representative were quite dissimilar and no longer interbred with each other but the steps from one to the other were clearly documented.
In Hawaii, birds were clearly speciated from one island to another. The geographic separation allowed the representatives to develop in divergent ways to become separate species.
Insects such as fruit flies can change and speciate quite rapidly.
These examples were in standard zoology text books.
In making this statement, I don't mean to advocate evolution from phylum to phylum or even from order to order, but speciation has definitely been proven.

The issue ISN'T speciation, it's divergence from species. Phylum to phylum evolution.
And yet you cite speciation like it proves divergence from species. Stop that.


The issue you're missing is that not breeding and having a different chromosomal makeup are completely different things.

Ceasing to breed through divergent evolution is a fact, YES. I UNDERSTAND this. It's TRUE.

The issue is that you look at that and think, "Oh, they must have different chromosomal chemistry now because they don't have sex any more."

There are people with brown hair, blonde hair, red hair, and black hair.
If, for some reason, they all decided to stop having sex with anyone other than another of their same hair color, none of the four groups would ever stop having 23 sets of chromosomes because of it. Get it?

Ugh i'm done arguing with someone who does not even know the basics of zoology. Have run rolling in your own ignorance but i have better things to do than arguing on the internet.