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- Totally neutral on this subject, but what in particular is the…
18h ago on
They need regular mental checkups and take hormonal drugs which take away time, energy, and resources from the military.
Having any type of regular check up is probably bad when people in the military need to be ready to serve on a moments notice.
They expect the taxpayers to fund their dick mutilation when in the service, an issue that's currently occurring.
You mean the less then 1% of the budget?
Even if it was a dollar the point stands, go split your dick on your own dime.
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The military pays 10x for other dick related things like boner pills. So dicks are definitely on the table.
btw it's more like 0.13% of the military's healthcare budget specifically
which like you said, DOES let your point still stand
much like your perfectly intact micro penis.
It exist's, but doesn't bother anyone but you
Are you saying we should waste that money? Because that's what it is. Wasting money. Even if they perform the same as every other soldier, they still cost more due to the regular care they need. It's like trying to buy a PBJ sandwich and your choices are the one for $3 and the one for $5. They're both the same sandwich, but one costs more. You get the same result, but the other will cost you more. It's just wasteful. You're trying to argue that "it's only a small percentage" as if that's a viable counter argument. It really isn't. A waste of money is still a waste of money. Are you trying to advocate for needlessly wasting money?
Everyone is trying to make this an ethical issue and saying that he was bad for doing this, but nobody can really offer a proper counter point as to why we should waste taxpayer money on them when it can be avoided. Every little bit counts and if you're on a strict budget(since we're in debt), we should be cutting costs wherever we can. Having trans servicemen is not any more beneficial than normal servicemen, but it costs more.
As a note, I'm not saying this with hostility so I hope you don't jump to insults and hostility. I'm asking a genuine question and would like a genuine answer. Can you justify spending extra money on servicemen when it can be avoided?
We waste multiple times more money sending tanks and helicopters just specifically to Egypt each year. Which have never been out of the warehouses they were delivered to and Egypt has more vehicles than it does men of fighting age to every be trained and use them.
There's plenty of excessive waste in the military already, I feel like this is penny pinching when theres a gaping hole in the side of the safe
Women cost more to insure as well, but not having a policy against them being in the military means we can select exceptionally qualified women to do jobs they'd be better at than some potential male service members
If an eagle scout, black belt, sharp shooter, engineering educated, TRANS person were to apply to enlist theyd get turned away with a policy like this, while the military would go through the training of average males instead.
I think it should be perfectly fine to discriminate
in more ways than just trans military service
But a policy barring all from service seems like an overreaction and unnecessary in several ways.
I'll ask again, do you think we should waste money on them? All you're saying is equivalent to "well they do it too!". That's not an actual answer, but an excuse to dodge answering.
>There's plenty of excessive waste in the military already, I feel like this is penny pinching when theres a gaping hole in the side of the safe
amount is a good amount if the cost isn't justifiable and spending all that extra money on people who provide no extra benefit than any other servicemen is not justifiable.
>Women cost more to insure as well...
I'm not 100% sure how the military operates in this regard, but I can't imagine the costs are as drastic as you're implying. Only things that really come to mind are tampons and becoming prego(which they get disharged for as they don't want a prego soldier). Tampons are extremely cheap as well. So it really isn't a massive expense to have female servicemen, but the costs for trans servicemen are far more costly.
>...we can select exceptionally qualified women to do jobs they'd be better at than some potential male service members.
I'm not saying women can't serve, but I can't think of a single thing women can out-perform men in (military-wise). Men are physically built bigger and are better suited for fighting. That's a pretty established fact. The only thing that comes to mind is maybe sniping, but even then I'm not sure. Either way, this isn't relevant.
>If an eagle scout, black belt, sharp shooter, engineering educated, TRANS person were to apply to enlist theyd get turned away with a policy like this.
Because it would cost more to keep the trans person. They need regular hormone injections and if they haven't had their surgery yet, that costs a lot too. There's even the recuperating time. Do you not see that it's far more costly to have a trans soldier? If it didn't cost a dime then there would be little problem, but there is another thing you're neglecting. Their need for regular hormone injections. They need them on a regular basis. If they don't get them, they can become unbalanced(I'm assuming this is the case since hormones are what control you and a drastic change to them would cause issues). So, they need extra attention in that regard. Can't ship them out on the third if they have an appointment on the fourth because then you have a soldier who can't perform well. It's the same with diabetics. They can perform perfectly fine as long as they are treated regularly, but if they can't get treated they will not perform well so they are barred from serving.
>But a policy barring all from service seems like an overreaction and unnecessary in several ways.
Yet you don't list any of those "several ways". All you did was say "well these things cost money too"(which again, is not an argumentative point, but an excuse to dodge). Don't use the "there are multiple reasons" excuse and then not list them. I pretty thoroughly explained the issues in this comment. I hope you read them and we can remain civil.
>but I can't imagine the costs are as drastic as you're implying
if they cost more at all, is that not the cost cutting extreme you are advocating?
Okay, okay, okay, okay
Let's back up here for a second
WHY does the military have to pay for all the trans people's bullshit?...
They could just not..
Simply allow them to serve and refuse to give them hormones, surgeries, etc under the health insurance. let them pay out of pocket.
Why the fuck do they need to be turned away? give them a gun, send them to training. If they can cut it who the fuck cares? they'll make enough to pay for the hormones at least, even if not the surgery
Look man, I don't get the whole trans mental handicap tbh, but I don't see how using identity politics to bar people from the military is worth the hassle
>if they cost more at all, is that not the cost cutting extreme you are advocating?
As I said, I'm for any cost cutting when the cost can't be justified. The cost of having women in service is not really much more expensive than men and they perform just fine so the cost if justified.
>WHY does the military have to pay for all the trans people's bullshit?
That's exactly what I just asked you twice. The thing is that they
cover it for a while.
>Simply allow them to serve and refuse to give them hormones, surgeries, etc under the health insurance. let them pay out of pocket.
That covers part of the cost issue, but you're missing a few key parts. first, they need regular treatment so you can't ship them out if you needed to because they're treatment would get in the way. If they don't get their treatment, they can't perform as well as expected and can actually become unstable(drastic hormone change can cause instability). Second, it still would cost more money because you would need to ship them all over in order for them to receive all the treatments they need. That's a constant use of fuel for personal reasons and that adds up. I don't know how often they'd need it, but I imagine it'd be pretty often. I also imagine only specialists can perform these kinds of treatments that they need and I can't imagine they are all over and even if so, those trans servicemen will need to abide by the costs of whoever is nearest(which convenience and being the only doctor around means they can charge a lot). That also affects their availability. They can't do their job if they have to go get the treatment. Let's say they were assigned guard duty, but they got excused because they had to go get treatment. Now someone else has to pick up their slack and everything has to be worked around their schedule because of their personal choice. That's also special/extra treatment. I'd like to see how you can justify that one.
Back to the costs, how do you expect them to pay for it all? Especially with the varying costs of different doctors, that adds up. Sure, put the cost on them, but can they really afford it? Yes, they get paid for serving, but what happens when they get out and have no money left because they spent it all on treatments? Now they're likely homeless.
>Look man, I don't get the whole trans mental handicap tbh
It's fairly common knowledge that drastic changes to your hormonal balance can cause serious issues(especially mentally). That's why the suicide rate for trans people is so damn high. Their bodies are physically not designed to have those hormones so the mind and body react badly most of the time. It's not identity politics and nobody but people attacking Trump's decision is bringing it into the discussion. This decision was a practical one. It was not done for any other reason. Again, it's the same deal with diabetics. They aren't allowed because they need constant treatment and will be a liability if they can't get it(which happens frequently in military)
Miniscule as fuck. Like the healthcare cost for them is 8 million out of like a 6.2billion healthcare budget.
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i dont even think it will scar, doesnt really look like it broke the skin, and even if there was a scar it would probably be invisible in 5-10 years.
i got hurt a lot as a kid, had many scars and most have faded away, the others are very hard to see
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