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#35 - ilovehitler (01/08/2016) [-]
Slavery had zero impact on the war. The slaves he 'freed' were the ones in rebelling states- states loyal to the north were allowed to keep their slaves. The rebelling states, which allegedly had their slaves freed by him, ignored his orders, because, y'know. They were rebelling.
#58 - greyhoundfd (01/08/2016) [-]
Actually, it had a huge impact on the war. Britain was considering coming into the civil war on the side of the Confederacy, since it wanted to prevent the United States becoming a world power by cutting out the heart of its agricultural industry, but by declaring the war about banning slavery, which had been illegal in Britain for decades, popular opinion turned enormously in favor of staying out of the war or even supporting the Union.
In fact, the involvement of Britain was so significant that it's arguable that Lincoln did not even fully want a war banning slavery, but simply needed the strategic benefit in order to keep the Empire out of the war.
#46 - srskate (01/08/2016) [-]
Thats what the emancipation proclamation did, but then the 13th amendment was passed
And that amendment only got passed because the southern states weren't represented in congress due to the war
"President Lincoln had had concerns that the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863 might be reversed or found invalid after the war. He saw constitutional amendment as a more permanent solution. ...Nonetheless, Lincoln's 1864 party platform resolved to abolish slavery by constitutional amendment. After winning the election of 1864, Lincoln made the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment his top legislative priority, beginning his efforts while the "lame duck" session was still in office. Popular support for the amendment mounted. and Lincoln urged Congress on in his December 6 State of the Union speech* "there is only a question of time as to when the proposed amendment will go to the States for their action. And as it is to so go, at all events, may we not agree that the sooner the better?""**
#51 - srskate (01/08/2016) [-]
reading further, it looks like it was actually ratified post war, but much of the leg work had been done prior. Ratification started at the beginning of 1865 and ended at the end of 1865, while the war ended min 1865. Lincoln was actually assassinated before the amendment passed.
I actually didn't know this till today. I read your comment and decided to double-check myself
#45 - sketchysketchist (01/08/2016) [-]
Didn't it have to do with being able to secede from the union.
Slavery had the impact in the sense that people who still wanted to keep slaves felt that they had the right to split the country in half where they make their own rules.
Lincoln wasn't having any of that shit, and as punishment took away their slaves first before abolishing slavery.
Then again, I don't know shit about history, thanks to elementary and middle school glossing over this shit as simply; Racist whites wanted slaves, Lincoln stopped them, MLK did a Cameo, and now we're here.
#52 - sketchysketchist (01/08/2016) [-]
That's exactly correct.
I remember that the North didn't really give two shits about slaves, they only wanted to abolish it because the South depended on slave labor more than the North. However, the South produced more of the important crap like crops and shizz, while the North was only good at mass production, i.e guns. The north didn't want to feel like the South had any power over them, because the North needed the south more, so they tried banning slavery to reduce their worth.
TLDR; No one gave a shit about slaves. North just didn't want to feel worthless.
#63 - falxcariusbro (01/08/2016) [-]
Actually the north had a huge agricultural industry. Remember that the north included the midwest, which is and was better at producing edible crops while the south focused on cash crops rather than edible ones or industry, this ended up backfiring spectacularly for them when they had constant supply shortages thanks to the blockade while the north could basically produce everything it needed at home. Just about the only real industry the confederacy had was in northern Virginia, and that was under constant threat from Union campaigns to capture Richmond. The only real advantage the south had was that they had much better generals who were able to keep the fight going for four years as opposed the one year it probably would have taken if they stayed out of it.
TL;DR the Union had bigger industry and farming, and basically would have won straight away if Confederate generals weren't so good.
#65 - falxcariusbro (01/08/2016) [-]
Well it was about slavery....to the southerners. The south seceded because they were afraid the election of Lincoln meant the republicans would push abolitionism on the south (which was totally f*cking wrong, he just didn't want slavery to be extended to the southwest). For the north, though, it was about putting down a rebellion and keeping America whole.