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#77 - Funny, only now do I realize why I disliked this show. It's ab…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Hey Arnold was deep.. +3
User avatar #84 - thathorse (04/22/2015) [-]
I lived in New York City when I was younger and would watch this show cause shit like this actually happened in my life man
User avatar #81 - hetzerdk (04/22/2015) [-]
Depends on how big the city is.
#3 - Nato simply because America is friendlier with them than Russi… 04/22/2015 on WWIII 0
#14 - Picture 04/22/2015 on I'd carry them in my ass +16
#25 - But it does. He said God and that is a definable term. Gods ha…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard 0
User avatar #85 - emiyashirou (04/22/2015) [-]
god, /ɡɒd/, (n): a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

Does it mention anywhere in there that a god is an all-powerful immortal being?
User avatar #175 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Having power over nature and humans sounds pretty all powerful. It's also called a spirit, does a spirit not sound like an immortal intangible being? So yes, immortal all powerful fits that definition. Spirits can be immortal, if you have power of nature, seeing how nature encompasses pretty much everything, that sounds like all powerful.
#3 - "I don't get why men have manly fantasies about winning a…  [+] (18 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Deep thoughts that keep me... +1
User avatar #4 - strawhatmatthew (04/22/2015) [-]
I meant it more of a way as in I can't get why men enjoy watching other men run around and sweaty and tossing balls around it just doesn't seem enjoyable to me bloody war on the other hand tests skill, tenacity, and power
User avatar #5 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
If sports doesn't test skill, tenacity, and power then what are you watching? Professional bingo?
User avatar #6 - strawhatmatthew (04/22/2015) [-]
I see your point I guess the main difference is that there is not violence in it I enjoy boxing and the such but other sports just feels meh and by violence I mean violence that can be graceful yet brutal you can't say other sports can showcase that
User avatar #7 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps sports are a more refined type of competition for a more civil and morally minded society. Though we could always go back to fights to the death in coliseums if you want. The new MMA fights are getting pretty close to that as is.
User avatar #8 - strawhatmatthew (04/22/2015) [-]
well UFC fights are like that but they aren't refined enough K-1 tournaments and the such are my type of fights. I don't like this you can hold a man and be declared a winner or stomp him out on the ground. I prefer than men fight with honor on their feet.
User avatar #9 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
There's no such thing as fighting with honor. There are rules to each kind of fighting and so long as you stay within those rules then you can win. It's smart to use what is easiest to win. You would be a fool to stop using arrows in battle because the enemy says they are the weapon of a coward. But when it comes to sports there is no honor, that's a made up social thing just the same as when COD players whine about someone camping as though it means something.
User avatar #10 - strawhatmatthew (04/22/2015) [-]
well the idea may seem more realistic in a different type of society or like in a movie where two generals face off without any type of interference, but I mean if it came to two opponents face to face like UFC then I can't enjoy it and I would never participate in a fight like that unless it was unavoidable having respect for a fallen foe is something everyone should have. I wouldn't mind if someone calls me a fool or naiive for that but it goes against my beliefs and lifestyle to do something like that and those without the resolve to live behind their beliefs are a bit lacking in character.
User avatar #11 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
To have real respect for a foe is to not fight them at all but work to find a way to make peace. That's real strength.
User avatar #12 - strawhatmatthew (04/22/2015) [-]
Humanity is not a kind enough race for that
User avatar #13 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
I disagree. We form entire societies where the violent sorts are both rare and shunned by greater society. This is exactly what human kind is most suited for.
User avatar #14 - strawhatmatthew (04/23/2015) [-]
well that depends on a personal standpoint some people have to fight just to survive because the world can't help them or refuses to. I live in Chicago and I got jumped on,got a chipped tooth, and I still need a root canal. At the end of the day I blamed myself for being to weak and could you say I was wrong?
User avatar #15 - Vandeekree (04/23/2015) [-]
It's definitely that we choose not to help those in need. There are more than enough resources in the world for everyone but we have to share.

And yes, I agree that you were too weak. But the way you were weak isn't the way you are thinking. It's not that you didn't have enough muscle or a weapon, it's that you valued your personal possessions. If you are ready to give away everything you have at a moments notice then being mugged doesn't matter. The only thing you should feel is worry for that mugger. Why is he forced to resort to mugging? Is he in need? Is he addicted to drugs? Could I help him?
User avatar #16 - strawhatmatthew (04/23/2015) [-]
I have actually been trying to think like that understanding people's emotions and actions but a long time ago I knew the world was cruel and you must find ways to defend yourself I believe strength is an emotional, physical, and mental thing and you must have all three to live a fulfilling life. I at the same time do believe that humans are naturally violent and find ways to control it but for some people they need a ring to fight in. People are different like that some like me need chaos to feel comfortable they need the madness around them to make sure the life they have hasn't gone stale.
User avatar #17 - Vandeekree (04/23/2015) [-]
That sounds like you have a void in your life you're trying to fill
User avatar #18 - strawhatmatthew (04/23/2015) [-]
In a way yes I find life very empty at times I can understand looking at the good things at life but ever since I had to deal with college and other life choices I feel as if the world is standing still and I'm moving in circles. Trying to find my way in a world corrupt like this is hard.
User avatar #19 - Vandeekree (04/23/2015) [-]
I know exactly how you feel. I'm a college student too and have felt that helplessness to the bad things in the world around me. So please don't take this the wrong way but the bible addresses that emptiness and guides on how to handle it. All I know is it always cures that feeling of doubt in me to read it.
User avatar #20 - strawhatmatthew (04/23/2015) [-]
I have been looking into Buddhism
User avatar #21 - Vandeekree (04/23/2015) [-]
That's not a bad one. I disagree with a lot of things they assert but on the scale of "good religions" I would probably put it second only to Christianity. But the important thing is you're exploring and branching out instead of letting yourself stagnate in unpleasant feelings.
#23 - That's the point. If it's smaller than God than it's not God, …  [+] (4 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard +1
User avatar #24 - pokemonstheshiz (04/22/2015) [-]
The quote is referring to what we/he believes is God. Whether or not there is one higher or it isn't "a true God" or whatever is irrelevant. He's referencing what he believes is his creator, and wondering if that creator lives in fear of what he created, like him. God is what he labels it. Whether the label fits your own criteria has nothing to do with the matter at hand.
User avatar #25 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
But it does. He said God and that is a definable term. Gods have always been all powerful immortal beings. So if you were to find something "above" humans that created us but didn't fit the definition of God then it would merely be a thing we thought was God but weren't looking high enough. The question presumes that God exists and the only uncertainty is if he fears his creations of Earth.
That's why the question is self defeating. Even if we mistake aliens for gods above us there is still room for a "true god" to be above them. You seem to be trying to interpret the words to mean "Is there a God at all? And if not, is whatever created us weaker than us?"
User avatar #85 - emiyashirou (04/22/2015) [-]
god, /ɡɒd/, (n): a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

Does it mention anywhere in there that a god is an all-powerful immortal being?
User avatar #175 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Having power over nature and humans sounds pretty all powerful. It's also called a spirit, does a spirit not sound like an immortal intangible being? So yes, immortal all powerful fits that definition. Spirits can be immortal, if you have power of nature, seeing how nature encompasses pretty much everything, that sounds like all powerful.
#3 - Yeah, regardless of their intent, this comes off as malicious to me. 04/22/2015 on SAVE THEM!!! 0
#20 - You did when you said what if God is just aliens. That means t… 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard -1
#10 - Yes. You might not be able to reach the highs of someone who's…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Cheer Up 0
#12 - redcoatnix (04/22/2015) [-]
wouldn't you agree you're a nigger?
User avatar #13 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Only from the waist up! Wait, I mean from the penis down...wait...fuck....
#16 - But if the thing that created us can feel fear then it is a ra…  [+] (3 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard -1
User avatar #19 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Holy shit, I can't believe I forgot about Vietnam too, we lost that.
User avatar #17 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
I never called it a god, I said what if what we thought were a god is just aliens.
I'm talking like space ships and science, like a more advanced version of us.

Technological superiority doesn't guarantee a win. A good example is the US military, one of the most advanced in the world if not thee most advanced, we were still having a hard time taking on farmers and people that lived in holes.
User avatar #20 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
You did when you said what if God is just aliens. That means those aliens are what we thought was God.

And yes, there is a technology gap that would guarantee a win. The U.S. was never in danger of losing in Vietnam. The Vietcong would never in their most successful scenario made it to American soil and taken over. It was simply that they made it so difficult and there was so much anti war support that the U.S. pulled out.

In the same way if you have a gun and I have a knife and we are fighting in a room you will win every single time. The only way you might not is if you get unlucky and miss me every shot. But that's a tiny margin and no intelligent would being would fear that. It would be like the aliens not invading for fear every crew member on all their battle ships would die of a heart attack at the same time. Or that somehow a Macintosh computer could interface with their computer systems and input a virus that somehow works on their systems, disabling their shields and allowing a crazy hillbilly pilot to fly a fighter jet up into their death ray and explode the entire ship.
#14 - Hard for the small group of mostly unarmed people on the islan… 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard -1
#6 - I'd just summon 1/7 of Shinron and make 1/7 of a wish.  [+] (27 new replies) 04/22/2015 on I'd carry them in my ass +197
User avatar #158 - winstonamora (04/23/2015) [-]
I'd wish magic will co-exist in this world.
User avatar #146 - phenact (04/23/2015) [-]
wish for 7 trillion dollers
User avatar #42 - augnos (04/22/2015) [-]
I'd wish for seven admins so I can get one.
#40 - fefe (04/22/2015) [-]
Wish for 7 immortalities.
User avatar #124 - lordmandy (04/22/2015) [-]
User avatar #66 - morphodite (04/22/2015) [-]
Who wants to be immortal? I mean, ensuring that you only die of old age is fine, but just living forever would seem like a nightmare.
User avatar #127 - zaxzwim (04/23/2015) [-]
i want to live forever, if i need to burry everyone i ever loved then so be it, i will have all the time in the world to do what ever i want to do, read everything, watch everything, meet everyone, walk everywhere, by the time i went around the world once, new things would've happened so time to start again
User avatar #100 - wrpen (04/22/2015) [-]
Take immortality, but specify that you only never age.

The chances of you dying from something physical, like a disease or a heart attack or a knife, go directly up the more you age from a point of about 18-20. Assuming you live healthily, you would probably live a little over 40 years more than usual before someone goes for the left of the spine, 4th lumbar down, even less if you eat like a shitter and eventually die of cholesterol.
#98 - warbob (04/22/2015) [-]
hotsauceandtoast

now this is a common idea suggested by medias nowdays. But have you REALLY thought about it yourselves? I mean, I have yet to hear of someone that he is completely satisfied with his life and wants to die now, except on movies.

I mean ,yeah you'd eventually get bored from things. Withing a few thousands of years maybe. If we don't consider the possibility of humanity actually creating new technilogies. And you yourself don't try to create new technologies.

And you can still play the fuck out of games for, like forever. Don't even get me started on learning history and all the god damn literature mankind has created. I mean, would you seriously not read the fuck out of so many books? But who has the time for it nowdays. Well you do if you're immortal.


But ok , let's assume you get bored. Years go by , decades , centuries. And then you eventually find something interesting again. Hell ,you're immortal. You're not bound to this planet - go look for fucking aliens, that ought to keep you entertained for a while.

Let's say you somehow manage to find all sentinent beings in the UNIVERSE or have just seen enough to already be bored of it. Assuming there wouldn't be anything interesting by the time you get back to earth and do it again, you'd be like VERY bored. For quite a while as well.

But hey , you eventually find out how to create intelligent life yourself for your own amusement. And that's a loooot more years to be entertained.



But I guess you'd eventually still be bored. But you'd have had the chance to experience just about anything life and the universe can offer. Now there's only eternity of boredom. But hey, maybe in a whole eternity you can find something interesting again?
User avatar #157 - masdercheef (04/23/2015) [-]
You make very good points, though I personally still wouldn't go for it. Building emotional attachments with people and subsequently losing them would be far too painful, let alone losing the ones I've already made.
User avatar #162 - warbob (04/23/2015) [-]
also an oftenly raised argument indeed.

But question yourself this - if this happens within your normal lifespan , then would you wish to end your life?
I mean sure, some people kill themselves over this. Their reasoning being they can't imagine their life without whatever they were attached to.

But in the quite literal infinity you'd surely be able to get over it. Maybe even find someone else to attach yourself to. You'd probably get bored of it eventually imo.


There's also something else to my statement. But what if you don't find the person to build a strong emotional attachement to in your ordinary lifespan? I mean, noone said you have to find "the one" within the next 50 years, right? Maybe it'd take you a 100. Or more?

Life ending without managing to experience something you want is probably the most anguishing things I can think of. And as much as we manage to fool ourselves, our greed for new experiences is instatiable.
User avatar #155 - morphodite (04/23/2015) [-]
What about torture, though? Like, say someone finds out (which is a big possibility) and they start testing you and shit. You can't die, but you can still feel pain for an indefinite amount of time.
User avatar #161 - warbob (04/23/2015) [-]
lots of shit is bound to happen to you, idd. But it'll just be temporary in the end. Meaningless infront of the countless lifespan you have.
User avatar #121 - zuereuz (04/22/2015) [-]
if i could live until the end of time i would be very happy, i know i would have to put up with a lot of shit but it would be amazing to see everything
#120 - jakatackka (04/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Personally I'd wish for immortality with the ability to end my own life, so that after a couple trillion years I could end it all if I so wished.

One interesting problem is that after a few hundred years, you'd start forgetting your past experiences. Your mind only has a finite amount of storage, so you'd have to devise a way to increase that storage or just save your current memories.
User avatar #134 - warbob (04/23/2015) [-]
bet I can think of a way to do that for an eternity tho.

but it's not like you want to remember everything anyways.
Atm I have about 3 stare at a random place for a few seconds and think "I will remember this moment for no reason at all" , proceed making a few seconds pause and then snap out of it
User avatar #114 - IamSofaKingdom (04/22/2015) [-]
#1 Go to space to look for aliens and get pulled into a sun. Spend eternity (or at least the lifespan of the sun) burning forever and choking for lack of air. Fire coursing through your lungs perpetually and your eyes permanently boiling and blinded.

Yep, that immortality sure was great.

#2 Get diseases, disablilities and spend eternity paralyzed from the neck down.

#3 The earth eventually explodes and you just get stuck floating in space, alone, until madness overtakes you.

Immortality is stupid.
User avatar #115 - warbob (04/22/2015) [-]
maybe if you're stupid and you don't make a plan for stuff that could go wrong?

I mean really , the problems you just suggested can easily be solved if you have, what, a few thousands of years? Maybe hundreds of thousands at worst?

also being immortal is directly counter to diseases, disabilities and paralyzation since those are a form of detoriation of the body, which is obviously counter to the very concept of being immortal to the point you can live in the core of the fucking sun.

only thing stupid here are your arguments.
User avatar #137 - IamSofaKingdom (04/23/2015) [-]
No, you are confusing immortality with eternal youth and invulnerability. Immortality simply means you live forever. Your physical condition is not promised even the slightest. You can be an immortal brain on a stick and still be immortal.

You can't handle the fact that you made some terrible assumptions about your shitty wish.
User avatar #160 - warbob (04/23/2015) [-]
you are practically limiting the immortality only to the brain in this case.

Which while it has logic on it's own, it is infact a specific case of immortality. If you are immortal, the most common implication would be that everything that composes you is immortal since it's a part of yourself.
User avatar #78 - captnnorway (04/22/2015) [-]
I used to think that. Living forever seems like a nightmare. But on the other hand ... I'd rather suffer an eternity in hell than just vanishing never to be conscious again. I don't know if you've read/seen Peer Gynt, but at one point he tries to argue with the devil that he's bad enough to get into hell simply so he doesn't end up losing his soul. I didn't think much about it when I read it the first time, but nowadays I just don't want to die.
User avatar #70 - hotsauceandtoast (04/22/2015) [-]
What you're thinking of is Invulnerability.
And, same.
Living forever would be fucking terrible.
#13 - ninjamanfu (04/22/2015) [-]
this is 1/7th of a wish
User avatar #52 - Tusura (04/22/2015) [-]
I'd wish to be 1/7th stronger than anyone else I come across.
#133 - ninjamanfu (04/23/2015) [-]
depending on who you find that could be a hell of a wish :3
#14 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
#11 - torazn (04/22/2015) [-]
I wish to be 7 times more immortal than normal immortality.
#12 - So we established they are in "heaven" which, at th…  [+] (5 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard -1
User avatar #15 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Because like I said, we adapt and can retaliate.
User avatar #16 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
But if the thing that created us can feel fear then it is a rational creature that clearly exorcises a lot of control. If it created us by accident then how can you call that God? It's just a mechanism of one chunk of mater causing a reaction in another chunk of matter.

Basically if you can label something God then it is untouchable and if you can't then you're not dealing with God. Which doesn't mean there isn't a God, it only means you mistook something for him.
User avatar #19 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Holy shit, I can't believe I forgot about Vietnam too, we lost that.
User avatar #17 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
I never called it a god, I said what if what we thought were a god is just aliens.
I'm talking like space ships and science, like a more advanced version of us.

Technological superiority doesn't guarantee a win. A good example is the US military, one of the most advanced in the world if not thee most advanced, we were still having a hard time taking on farmers and people that lived in holes.
User avatar #20 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
You did when you said what if God is just aliens. That means those aliens are what we thought was God.

And yes, there is a technology gap that would guarantee a win. The U.S. was never in danger of losing in Vietnam. The Vietcong would never in their most successful scenario made it to American soil and taken over. It was simply that they made it so difficult and there was so much anti war support that the U.S. pulled out.

In the same way if you have a gun and I have a knife and we are fighting in a room you will win every single time. The only way you might not is if you get unlucky and miss me every shot. But that's a tiny margin and no intelligent would being would fear that. It would be like the aliens not invading for fear every crew member on all their battle ships would die of a heart attack at the same time. Or that somehow a Macintosh computer could interface with their computer systems and input a virus that somehow works on their systems, disabling their shields and allowing a crazy hillbilly pilot to fly a fighter jet up into their death ray and explode the entire ship.
#10 - We didn't create dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. We manipulated al…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard -1
User avatar #13 - beardysbrother (04/22/2015) [-]
They still recreated something that we couldn't control. Shit they even knew the some of the stuff would have benn hella hard to keep control over.
User avatar #14 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Hard for the small group of mostly unarmed people on the island. But I find it hard to believe that the dinosaurs went on to wipe out everyone on Earth. They aren't a real threat anymore than bears are a threat. Sure you'd be scared of a bear if you were naked in a room with one but humanity isn't.
#6 - Why would aliens be afraid of us? I find it hard to imagine an…  [+] (12 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard -1
User avatar #11 - theshinypen (04/22/2015) [-]
Why would aliens be afraid of us? Are you fucking retarded?? black people
#8 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Maybe they're not equipped, maybe they don't know how well armed we are, the general unknown might be terrifying to them? Maybe our adaptability and our drive to want to live scares them? We could be an experiment gone wrong and now can't be contained without heavy casualties? That's all I got but the idea of going to war with an advanced alien race is interesting and terrifying.
User avatar #12 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
So we established they are in "heaven" which, at the least, means outer space. Then this race of aliens or alien can't kill a species who themselves have mechanisms to wipe themselves out already? How can you look at the weak and vulnerable state of humans and think anything would be afraid of us when a shift in temperature, a blow to a lower food chain link, or even the introduction of more life that preys on humans like a virus could wipe us out?
User avatar #15 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Because like I said, we adapt and can retaliate.
User avatar #16 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
But if the thing that created us can feel fear then it is a rational creature that clearly exorcises a lot of control. If it created us by accident then how can you call that God? It's just a mechanism of one chunk of mater causing a reaction in another chunk of matter.

Basically if you can label something God then it is untouchable and if you can't then you're not dealing with God. Which doesn't mean there isn't a God, it only means you mistook something for him.
User avatar #19 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Holy shit, I can't believe I forgot about Vietnam too, we lost that.
User avatar #17 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
I never called it a god, I said what if what we thought were a god is just aliens.
I'm talking like space ships and science, like a more advanced version of us.

Technological superiority doesn't guarantee a win. A good example is the US military, one of the most advanced in the world if not thee most advanced, we were still having a hard time taking on farmers and people that lived in holes.
User avatar #20 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
You did when you said what if God is just aliens. That means those aliens are what we thought was God.

And yes, there is a technology gap that would guarantee a win. The U.S. was never in danger of losing in Vietnam. The Vietcong would never in their most successful scenario made it to American soil and taken over. It was simply that they made it so difficult and there was so much anti war support that the U.S. pulled out.

In the same way if you have a gun and I have a knife and we are fighting in a room you will win every single time. The only way you might not is if you get unlucky and miss me every shot. But that's a tiny margin and no intelligent would being would fear that. It would be like the aliens not invading for fear every crew member on all their battle ships would die of a heart attack at the same time. Or that somehow a Macintosh computer could interface with their computer systems and input a virus that somehow works on their systems, disabling their shields and allowing a crazy hillbilly pilot to fly a fighter jet up into their death ray and explode the entire ship.
User avatar #7 - beardysbrother (04/22/2015) [-]
Then why is Jurassic Park so good?
User avatar #10 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
We didn't create dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. We manipulated already existing mechanisms to re-make them. I would say we discovered a circumstance in which dinosaurs could come back but we certainly didn't make them from nothing, didn't even make them from scratch.
User avatar #13 - beardysbrother (04/22/2015) [-]
They still recreated something that we couldn't control. Shit they even knew the some of the stuff would have benn hella hard to keep control over.
User avatar #14 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Hard for the small group of mostly unarmed people on the island. But I find it hard to believe that the dinosaurs went on to wipe out everyone on Earth. They aren't a real threat anymore than bears are a threat. Sure you'd be scared of a bear if you were naked in a room with one but humanity isn't.
#4 - Seems like an oxymoron to me. If he's afraid it's because we c…  [+] (21 new replies) 04/22/2015 on Spy Hard +4
User avatar #22 - pokemonstheshiz (04/22/2015) [-]
only if you assume that God is an omnipotent being

perhaps what we think of as god is little more than a scientist, and we are his experiment.
User avatar #23 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
That's the point. If it's smaller than God than it's not God, it's another step up in the natural order but God is still above it.
User avatar #24 - pokemonstheshiz (04/22/2015) [-]
The quote is referring to what we/he believes is God. Whether or not there is one higher or it isn't "a true God" or whatever is irrelevant. He's referencing what he believes is his creator, and wondering if that creator lives in fear of what he created, like him. God is what he labels it. Whether the label fits your own criteria has nothing to do with the matter at hand.
User avatar #25 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
But it does. He said God and that is a definable term. Gods have always been all powerful immortal beings. So if you were to find something "above" humans that created us but didn't fit the definition of God then it would merely be a thing we thought was God but weren't looking high enough. The question presumes that God exists and the only uncertainty is if he fears his creations of Earth.
That's why the question is self defeating. Even if we mistake aliens for gods above us there is still room for a "true god" to be above them. You seem to be trying to interpret the words to mean "Is there a God at all? And if not, is whatever created us weaker than us?"
User avatar #85 - emiyashirou (04/22/2015) [-]
god, /ɡɒd/, (n): a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

Does it mention anywhere in there that a god is an all-powerful immortal being?
User avatar #175 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Having power over nature and humans sounds pretty all powerful. It's also called a spirit, does a spirit not sound like an immortal intangible being? So yes, immortal all powerful fits that definition. Spirits can be immortal, if you have power of nature, seeing how nature encompasses pretty much everything, that sounds like all powerful.
User avatar #5 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
What if what we thought was god were just aliens?
#21 - quantumranger (04/22/2015) [-]
User avatar #6 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Why would aliens be afraid of us? I find it hard to imagine anything with the power to create us also being so weak it fears us.
User avatar #11 - theshinypen (04/22/2015) [-]
Why would aliens be afraid of us? Are you fucking retarded?? black people
#8 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Maybe they're not equipped, maybe they don't know how well armed we are, the general unknown might be terrifying to them? Maybe our adaptability and our drive to want to live scares them? We could be an experiment gone wrong and now can't be contained without heavy casualties? That's all I got but the idea of going to war with an advanced alien race is interesting and terrifying.
User avatar #12 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
So we established they are in "heaven" which, at the least, means outer space. Then this race of aliens or alien can't kill a species who themselves have mechanisms to wipe themselves out already? How can you look at the weak and vulnerable state of humans and think anything would be afraid of us when a shift in temperature, a blow to a lower food chain link, or even the introduction of more life that preys on humans like a virus could wipe us out?
User avatar #15 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Because like I said, we adapt and can retaliate.
User avatar #16 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
But if the thing that created us can feel fear then it is a rational creature that clearly exorcises a lot of control. If it created us by accident then how can you call that God? It's just a mechanism of one chunk of mater causing a reaction in another chunk of matter.

Basically if you can label something God then it is untouchable and if you can't then you're not dealing with God. Which doesn't mean there isn't a God, it only means you mistook something for him.
User avatar #19 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
Holy shit, I can't believe I forgot about Vietnam too, we lost that.
User avatar #17 - improbablyyourdad (04/22/2015) [-]
I never called it a god, I said what if what we thought were a god is just aliens.
I'm talking like space ships and science, like a more advanced version of us.

Technological superiority doesn't guarantee a win. A good example is the US military, one of the most advanced in the world if not thee most advanced, we were still having a hard time taking on farmers and people that lived in holes.
User avatar #20 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
You did when you said what if God is just aliens. That means those aliens are what we thought was God.

And yes, there is a technology gap that would guarantee a win. The U.S. was never in danger of losing in Vietnam. The Vietcong would never in their most successful scenario made it to American soil and taken over. It was simply that they made it so difficult and there was so much anti war support that the U.S. pulled out.

In the same way if you have a gun and I have a knife and we are fighting in a room you will win every single time. The only way you might not is if you get unlucky and miss me every shot. But that's a tiny margin and no intelligent would being would fear that. It would be like the aliens not invading for fear every crew member on all their battle ships would die of a heart attack at the same time. Or that somehow a Macintosh computer could interface with their computer systems and input a virus that somehow works on their systems, disabling their shields and allowing a crazy hillbilly pilot to fly a fighter jet up into their death ray and explode the entire ship.
User avatar #7 - beardysbrother (04/22/2015) [-]
Then why is Jurassic Park so good?
User avatar #10 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
We didn't create dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. We manipulated already existing mechanisms to re-make them. I would say we discovered a circumstance in which dinosaurs could come back but we certainly didn't make them from nothing, didn't even make them from scratch.
User avatar #13 - beardysbrother (04/22/2015) [-]
They still recreated something that we couldn't control. Shit they even knew the some of the stuff would have benn hella hard to keep control over.
User avatar #14 - Vandeekree (04/22/2015) [-]
Hard for the small group of mostly unarmed people on the island. But I find it hard to believe that the dinosaurs went on to wipe out everyone on Earth. They aren't a real threat anymore than bears are a threat. Sure you'd be scared of a bear if you were naked in a room with one but humanity isn't.
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User avatar #31 - deathchain (04/21/2015) [-]
I don't have the best skin, and when I was 15 I had to get two potentially-cancerous moles removed from my back. Being unusually resistant to anesthetics, the first and second shots didn't have any effect on me. After the third, which did nothing either, I felt like I was being a bother (because I was a stupid) to the nurse-surgeon, told her that one worked, and just dealt with it.

I felt everything and wound up biting my arm so hard for the duration that there were still teeth marks several hours later.
User avatar #22 - wrpen (04/21/2015) [-]
Hell, I didn't even have to exercise to do it. Just fucking around in gym class in Highschool when I heard something pop in my knee. Couldn't walk that easy after that, so I just sat down for the rest of the period. Come to find out, I still couldn't walk easily, so I limped down to the nurses office (Literally an eighth of a mile from the gym), got an ice pack, and ended up on crutches that night.

End result: A nickel-sized piece of my kneecap had to be taken out of my knee, not to mention over 500 mL of drained blood.
#10 - huva (04/20/2015) [-]
One time i was hiking in the mountains i twisted my ankle, several times. I just kept going until i was at my camping spot, put up my tent and went to sleep. I couldnt walk after i woke up the next morning. So i had to stay there for two days until they could get me down on an atv.
This was one of my earlier hikes i did alone when i was 13, I didnt know how badly a twisted ankle could become if left untreated. I sure as hell learned that lesson back then.
Pic related, its the area i set up camp in that night, only theres reindeer there.
User avatar #16 - BowChickaBowWow (04/21/2015) [-]
The worst part about twisting an ankle on the trail, is when you've gotten back to camp, took off your boots, and wake up the next morning unable to put your boot back on because your ankle swelled up like a balloon.
#27 - huva (04/21/2015) [-]
Just tie a bandage or a pice of clothing or whatever you find, just thight enough around your ankle so your blood doesnt stop flowing. Then the swelling wont be nearly as bad in the morning.
Or thats what ive been told, i havent actually expireinced it myself. But thats because i dont twist my ankle alot, and i always forget to try this when i do.
#12 - watshisface (04/20/2015) [-]
As a junior in high school I was going hard as fuck in cross country and thought the harder you trained the more you got out of it.

Nope, you just get more shin splints.

Everyone thought I was bullshitting so I thought I was too and kept going until I couldnt jog anymore. When my coach told me to take a week off I went to the doc to get a pass to stay off it in gym class, i got an MRI and it turned out MY SHIN ACTUALLY SPLINTED and I had a stress fracture and didn't even know it


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User avatar #19 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (05/09/2013) [-]
Do you not have morals? Like seriously do you not have any? You claim that you only do as the bible instructs every time someone asks you about morals, but do you not know right from wrong without religion?

If so perhaps you should learn it. I'm an agnostic and I still know what's right from wrong without a higher entity instructing me on it. If the only thing keeping you from being a moral-less prick is religion then you are probably a psychopath.
User avatar #16 - justinsane (04/04/2013) [-]
Lets just put this here, shall we? Fewer purple lines
User avatar #18 to #16 - justinsane (04/04/2013) [-]
Now I strongly disagree that more studies need to be done in order to come to a consensus. All of the leading bodies which have done research on the subject have found no reason to indicate that gays are naturally more likely through their expression of sexuality to have any types of adverse effects. The only people I have heard calling for more research are the same people claiming that climate change is not a thing or that natural selection doesnt happen. There is a consensus in the scientific community and it is people who are not a part of the community who claim that they cant make conclusions (because they dont like the ones made)
User avatar #17 to #16 - Vandeekree (04/04/2013) [-]
Tis a good idea
#14 - highclassbean (02/11/2013) [-]
thank you for being so informative and calm in that religious conversation with thebritish.guy. really gave a positive look on the religious community.
User avatar #15 to #14 - Vandeekree (02/11/2013) [-]
Why thank you. Simply following the bible though. It says to approach the nonbeliever with respect and politeness.
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******* idiot.
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User avatar #2 to #1 - Vandeekree (07/14/2010) [-]
Thank you, now I feel loved. i guess that's what I get for posting in the morning when the average funnyjunker is asleep.
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