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#4 - I'd disagree with his first point. The separation of church an…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/09/2016 on Progressivism Cult Owned By... +1
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#5 - tanuith (07/11/2016) [-]
Yeah I can understand the reasoning behind it I wouldn't have personally cared if church was with state, however this new cult that is masquerading as a science is caustically unhealthy for humanity and needs to be removed like the tumor it is.. It will take awhile though. I don't necessarily agree 100% with this guy I just like the scathing review of the state of the obscenity of society
#7 - Yellow jackets. Easiest way to get rid of them is to take a cu…  [+] (3 new replies) 07/08/2016 on God save us 0
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#10 - frenulum (07/08/2016) [-]
thats no fun
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#17 - shadowzznz (07/09/2016) [-]
its fun when you light it on fire
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#18 - frenulum (07/09/2016) [-]
#189 - I've found some like that but they are saying that a prostitut… 07/07/2016 on soler 0
#173 - Can you cite me that verse? I tried to find it but none of the…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/07/2016 on soler 0
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#188 - timmywankenobi (07/07/2016) [-]
I don't remember the exact verse but it was something about not judging prostitutes too harshly because we are all sinners and as long as a lady of the night has god in her heart she is okay.
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#189 - Vandeekree (07/07/2016) [-]
I've found some like that but they are saying that a prostitute cane repent and still be saved. None suggest that she can still practice her "business" and be alright though. It'd really help me if you could find that verse though.
#19 - And your morals are based on subjective opinion. But you're ri…  [+] (8 new replies) 07/06/2016 on soler +4
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#50 - timmywankenobi (07/06/2016) [-]
even Jesus was fine with prostitution as a short term job.
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#173 - Vandeekree (07/07/2016) [-]
Can you cite me that verse? I tried to find it but none of the verses by Jesus regarding prostitution immediately jump out at me as saying that.
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#188 - timmywankenobi (07/07/2016) [-]
I don't remember the exact verse but it was something about not judging prostitutes too harshly because we are all sinners and as long as a lady of the night has god in her heart she is okay.
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#189 - Vandeekree (07/07/2016) [-]
I've found some like that but they are saying that a prostitute cane repent and still be saved. None suggest that she can still practice her "business" and be alright though. It'd really help me if you could find that verse though.
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#21 - vorarephilia (07/06/2016) [-]
damn straight. gave up my morals and started ripping tags off mattresses. never looked back.
#113 - miscetc (07/06/2016) [-]
You monster!
#20 - migueldecervantes (07/06/2016) [-]
You are not entitled to an opinion. You have a right to an informed opinion, however. Why would you want to be wrong?
#33 - anon (07/06/2016) [-]
What? You are entitled to an opinion because you can think, therefore you can form opinions. And last I checked, there wasn't much stopping someone from forming an opinion (no matter how uneducated/educated it might be), short of a coma.
#33 - Men are so insecure about their masculinity. It's not like the… 07/03/2016 on Man stuff 0
#16 - I feel like the whole "It's cool to be pessimistic and de…  [+] (5 new replies) 07/02/2016 on New Berserk anime in a... +8
#32 - anon (07/02/2016) [-]
The fuck kind of special ED rejects did you go to school with?
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#35 - plazmaflare (07/02/2016) [-]
Welcome to public school in America my friend.
#49 - anon (07/02/2016) [-]
Yeah, nah, I went to public school in America. Nobody competed to be the best failure.
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#27 - misticalz (07/02/2016) [-]
so annoying
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#18 - deathklokiller (07/02/2016) [-]
failing this class the harde....what?!
#5 - But wouldn't that fatigue the rider more than getting out to p…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/29/2016 on gotta go faster +2
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#15 - gcloud (06/30/2016) [-]
when ur really good at something you can do things that other people would find exhausting.
for example i could run a mile without breaking a sweet, while someone who hasnt been running everyday for 3 years wouldnt be able to make it acouple of steps.

tl:dr practice makes difficult things trivial
#19 - sleeperagent (06/30/2016) [-]
You probably shouldn't be breaking sweets while running, you'll get sugar on your clothes
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#12 - Silver Quantum (06/30/2016) [-]
that's an endurance sport. i seriously doubt he broke a sweat doing that
#113 - The pyramids were built in a time of decline in Egypt to help … 06/29/2016 on Why? +1
#501 - And that's a good thing. I think that every Christian needs to…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/02/2016 on Well he does have a good point 0
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#507 - vladhellsing (06/02/2016) [-]
Oh boy, this'll be fun.

If the bible is "flawless", then why is it so disputed? Why are there so many mistranslations and missing pieces? Why can nobody come to a clear consensus on what the texts mean, even among believers? These are glaring flaws that cannot be overlooked. And again you say "They are always either misinterpretations of the verse, often when the verses are taken out of context." , how do you know you have the 'right' interpretation? If the book is as flawless as you claim, there wouldn't be any need for interpretation!

Not to mention the blatant scientific untruths proclaimed by the bible: it paints a worked far younger than what scientists have determined, the Genesis story is completely convoluted earth before the universe, light before stars, etc , it states that the earth is a flat disc supported on columns and covered by a crystal dome, it defines bats as birds, whales as fish, Jesus says that mustard seeds are the smallest of all seeds even though they're not, and the authors clearly had no idea about germs, pathogens or mental disorders, blaming diseases and epilepsy on demons and other things. And I'm not even mentioning all the talking animals, necromancy, magic, other gods & daemons, the Flood myth or any other supernatural occurence.
On the scientific front the bible falls flat on its face, and like yourself I can cite countless sources that pick apart the claims in the bible from a scientific point of view. AronRa, Thunderf00t and potholer54 have entire playlists dedicated to debunking Creationism and cite all their sources, you can also try talkorigins.org , Matt Dillahunty has repeatedly picked apart biblical inconsistencies and absurdities (he has his own channel on YT but his material is scattered all over the internet), just to name a few

From a historicity perspective, if you look into the history of the bible, how it was put together over the centuries and the origins of many of its myths (from Genesis to Jesus) you can clearly see it was a work of fiction from the start. Again I can cite a number of sources for you to investigate. You've probably heard of Bart Ehrman's lengthy scholarly investigation into the subject, AronRa gives plenty of lectures showing the origins of biblical myths, Matt Dillahunty also delves into the historicity of the bible, etc

The prophecies in the bible are either vague or referring to something else entirely. Just to start with a few:
- Jesus said that his second coming would happen within the lifetime of those he was speaking to, yet it didn't happen.
- The formation of Israel as a nation state gives no particular timeframe for it to happen in so it's another vague prophecy at best - I can prophecy that the USA will fall in the future and it inevitably will, but that doesn't prove my prophetic powers. And Israel is not a Jewish theocracy as the bible intended it to be.
- Daniel's vision gives no definite timeframe for Alexander's rise (if indeed that was who he was referring to) and it states in Daniel 8: 17 that his vision "refers to the time of the end". End of what? End of the world? We're still here, so that didn't come to pass. I did a quick Wiki search en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Daniel#Historical_background looking for the historical manuscripts on which Daniel was based and found a few other prophecies that were inaccurate in the very same book. The rest of that article also shows how the book was put together over the ages, with additions by Greek scholars as well.
- Any prophecy made and passed within the bible can be discredited, as it's quite easy for later authors to just write in whatever they want. On that we agree.

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#508 - vladhellsing (06/02/2016) [-]

Philosophically, there's still nothing to suggest that there must be a first cause or anything to identify this cause as 'god', and the mental gymnastics to make for such an allowance are absurd:

- If something exists, it must have had a beginning.
- The universe exists, therefore it must have had a beginning.
- Therefore, we call this first cause 'god'- NO NO NO! You can't jump from "There had to be a first cause" to "Therefore, god". How do you reach that conclusion? Alternatively:
- Therefore if god exists, then he must have had a beginning. But that can't be true, because supposedly god is eternal, right? If he had a beginning, then what was before god? If god is eternal, why can't we just assume that the universe is eternal and bin the god hypothesis? Physicists have worked out a more complicated cosmological model which is too convoluted to describe here, but in a nutshell: Time and space are connected, and as the Expanding Universe theory suggests, waaaaaaay back in the past all time & space was concentrated into a singular, infinitesimal point. Asking "what was before the Big Bang?" is like asking "what's south of the South Pole?" We don't know what the answer is (if there even is one) but there's nothing to suggest it must be a 'god'.

Philosophy relies entirely on logic (unless you're William Lane Craig) but that can only get you so far when dealing with reality where evidence matters more than what one can fathom on their own. There are many things we've learned about the universe that defy our common sense the earth is round, time & space are connected, air resistance vs. gravity, even the most solid objects are made up mostly of empty space, the speed of light, etc and the only ideas that hold any credibility are the ones that can be demonstrated. Philosophy has had a good run, but when it comes to debating topics that cannot be objectively verified then it ceases to hold any value. The requirement of a god for there to be absolute morality (if there even is such a thing) is not verifiable, the existence of an omnicient god already makes us automatons with no free will, simply because something has a 'beginning' doesn't mean it has a 'creator' and the universe bears no marks of such design (despite what Creationists try and claim), and as for "why is there something rather than nothing?" the answer is "I don't know" not "god did it". And according to Lawrence Krauss the universe is made up mostly of nothing anyway - we're more insignificant than we realise!

As for the "life is pointless without god" debate I'm not even gonna bother as any argument made in favour of one god can be applied to any other god, or anything else for that matter. I will however say that having an all-supervising deity cheapens our existence and makes life far less valuable. Personally, I found the universe to be a far more interesting, make a lot more sense and learned to appreciate a great many more things once I abandoned the notion of god.

If you want we can tackle these issues one at a time just so we have more words to spare.
Also, when typing up longer replies like this, I encourage you to 'save' your work periodically by copying all you've written so far Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C just in case you close a tab, window or close the message box accidentally. Saves having to type it out all over again.