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#61 - Yep. That was my motive. Most normal people wouldn't have caug…  [+] (20 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#65 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so you can prove, empirically, that that is true. Through a set of tests and with consistent results, you can prove what is right and wrong.
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Indeed. Given enough time and resources. But it would take an awfully lot of resources to map out the entire sum of existence and figure out of there is a god or not.
#69 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
wow, that sounds awfully faithful, like you could do something thousands of others throughout time have tried to do and have comeback inconclusive
but are my words compared to blind faith
User avatar #97 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.
User avatar #71 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
That's ok. Not everyone can put so much faith in the scientific method what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true.
#73 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what you are saying is true could easily be just as wrong as all those things we have to go back and change
User avatar #74 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Just because we don't know something is true doesn't make it any less true and vice versa.
#76 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true."
so many other things were false, but come on guys, this has to be right?
User avatar #77 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It is until it isn't.
#94 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
#92 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
No i got a release of pent up anger
and every day i can get that is a win
User avatar #93 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Well good. I'm glad we had a fruitful chat.
#88 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
today was a good day, had a good vent through a pointless internet argument, nothing was accomplished on either side. A good day.
User avatar #89 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Shame you didn't get anything out of it. I sure did.
#84 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that's because right is only right when it actually does something, again, you are only condemning others for their decisions and doing nothing about those condemnations. The chicken AND the farmer are both dead anyway so why does the morality of the situation even matter?
User avatar #86 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't condemn anyone. My word were to those who browse this chat section. They were meant to change the minds of anyone reading it who didn't agree. So there's the action you wanted. Did it? I don't know, I hope so. The reason it matters is because empathy is a subject that always matters. It's never a bad thing to discuss morality with others.
#81 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
implying you haven't been clinging to the same "it isn't right" shpeel for the entire thread
User avatar #83 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
If you can't see why hurting other living things for your amusement isn't right then I go back to my mentally unstable point from before.
And yes, I do cling to what is right and wrong. And so do you, even if you tell me that's wrong for me to do.
#78 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so looping back to "it's right because i believe"
gotcha
User avatar #79 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Finally found something you could cling to huh?
#56 - It's not that at all. It really is a trend that many serial ki…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken +1
#60 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so someone commenting that they feel nothing for a chicken, that they themselves did nothing to, is alike to a serial killer
flawless logic
User avatar #63 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
When that "nothing" that they feel actually is alike to a serial killer then yes. It literally is flawless logic....
#52 - I get a happy feeling? Not at all. It turns my stomach a bit t…  [+] (22 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken +1
#59 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it looks like someone trying to act like their OPINION is the objective truth
where a simple "dude wtf" would be enough you go on a sad sap shpeel
User avatar #61 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yep. That was my motive. Most normal people wouldn't have caught it but when I said that it was disturbing that that chicken was kept alive to suffer my actual motive was to say "Hey everybody! Look at me and how moral I am! I am better than you all!"

And yes. It is objectively true that causing something else to suffer for no gain besides your amusement is morally wrong.
#65 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so you can prove, empirically, that that is true. Through a set of tests and with consistent results, you can prove what is right and wrong.
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Indeed. Given enough time and resources. But it would take an awfully lot of resources to map out the entire sum of existence and figure out of there is a god or not.
#69 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
wow, that sounds awfully faithful, like you could do something thousands of others throughout time have tried to do and have comeback inconclusive
but are my words compared to blind faith
User avatar #97 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.
User avatar #71 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
That's ok. Not everyone can put so much faith in the scientific method what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true.
#73 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what you are saying is true could easily be just as wrong as all those things we have to go back and change
User avatar #74 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Just because we don't know something is true doesn't make it any less true and vice versa.
#76 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true."
so many other things were false, but come on guys, this has to be right?
User avatar #77 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It is until it isn't.
#94 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
#92 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
No i got a release of pent up anger
and every day i can get that is a win
User avatar #93 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Well good. I'm glad we had a fruitful chat.
#88 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
today was a good day, had a good vent through a pointless internet argument, nothing was accomplished on either side. A good day.
User avatar #89 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Shame you didn't get anything out of it. I sure did.
#84 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that's because right is only right when it actually does something, again, you are only condemning others for their decisions and doing nothing about those condemnations. The chicken AND the farmer are both dead anyway so why does the morality of the situation even matter?
User avatar #86 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't condemn anyone. My word were to those who browse this chat section. They were meant to change the minds of anyone reading it who didn't agree. So there's the action you wanted. Did it? I don't know, I hope so. The reason it matters is because empathy is a subject that always matters. It's never a bad thing to discuss morality with others.
#81 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
implying you haven't been clinging to the same "it isn't right" shpeel for the entire thread
User avatar #83 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
If you can't see why hurting other living things for your amusement isn't right then I go back to my mentally unstable point from before.
And yes, I do cling to what is right and wrong. And so do you, even if you tell me that's wrong for me to do.
#78 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so looping back to "it's right because i believe"
gotcha
User avatar #79 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Finally found something you could cling to huh?
#47 - Yes, I've been called naive several times. But if getting rid …  [+] (24 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#49 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what is objectively right?
we look back and condemn because its easy
we get a little happy feeling like we've done something
when we haven't done anything
so get off your little self-righteous pedestal and join the rest of us mortals
User avatar #52 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I get a happy feeling? Not at all. It turns my stomach a bit to think of what it must have been like for that headless chicken to feel such pain for so long. I don't feel like I've done anything of that chicken or the people who kept it alive as an oddity on display. I'm simply posting my opinion about it in the comment section on funnyjunk and that makes me self righteous and on a pedestal? I didn't even say they shouldn't have done it, my comment was that they should have felt sympathy for the suffering bird. Geez dude, does everything everyone says seem like they are directly scolding you and telling you they are better than you?
#59 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it looks like someone trying to act like their OPINION is the objective truth
where a simple "dude wtf" would be enough you go on a sad sap shpeel
User avatar #61 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yep. That was my motive. Most normal people wouldn't have caught it but when I said that it was disturbing that that chicken was kept alive to suffer my actual motive was to say "Hey everybody! Look at me and how moral I am! I am better than you all!"

And yes. It is objectively true that causing something else to suffer for no gain besides your amusement is morally wrong.
#65 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so you can prove, empirically, that that is true. Through a set of tests and with consistent results, you can prove what is right and wrong.
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Indeed. Given enough time and resources. But it would take an awfully lot of resources to map out the entire sum of existence and figure out of there is a god or not.
#69 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
wow, that sounds awfully faithful, like you could do something thousands of others throughout time have tried to do and have comeback inconclusive
but are my words compared to blind faith
User avatar #97 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.
User avatar #71 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
That's ok. Not everyone can put so much faith in the scientific method what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true.
#73 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what you are saying is true could easily be just as wrong as all those things we have to go back and change
User avatar #74 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Just because we don't know something is true doesn't make it any less true and vice versa.
#76 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true."
so many other things were false, but come on guys, this has to be right?
User avatar #77 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It is until it isn't.
#94 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
#92 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
No i got a release of pent up anger
and every day i can get that is a win
User avatar #93 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Well good. I'm glad we had a fruitful chat.
#88 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
today was a good day, had a good vent through a pointless internet argument, nothing was accomplished on either side. A good day.
User avatar #89 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Shame you didn't get anything out of it. I sure did.
#84 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that's because right is only right when it actually does something, again, you are only condemning others for their decisions and doing nothing about those condemnations. The chicken AND the farmer are both dead anyway so why does the morality of the situation even matter?
User avatar #86 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't condemn anyone. My word were to those who browse this chat section. They were meant to change the minds of anyone reading it who didn't agree. So there's the action you wanted. Did it? I don't know, I hope so. The reason it matters is because empathy is a subject that always matters. It's never a bad thing to discuss morality with others.
#81 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
implying you haven't been clinging to the same "it isn't right" shpeel for the entire thread
User avatar #83 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
If you can't see why hurting other living things for your amusement isn't right then I go back to my mentally unstable point from before.
And yes, I do cling to what is right and wrong. And so do you, even if you tell me that's wrong for me to do.
#78 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so looping back to "it's right because i believe"
gotcha
User avatar #79 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Finally found something you could cling to huh?
#44 - I have to say, I've never received such a complement as to be …  [+] (26 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#46 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it wasn't really a compliment, oversympathy is just an expression of naivete
not to mention it was a different time, with different morals
that sort of thing wasn't frowned upon at the time, it was more of "well lookee here jim lookit this here headless chicken, it ain't even dead!"
User avatar #47 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, I've been called naive several times. But if getting rid of my naivete requires losing my sympathy then I will stay blissfully naive I think.
But regardless of the time period it was still wrong. Just because human sacrifice was accepted by the Aztec doesn't mean it was right.
#49 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what is objectively right?
we look back and condemn because its easy
we get a little happy feeling like we've done something
when we haven't done anything
so get off your little self-righteous pedestal and join the rest of us mortals
User avatar #52 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I get a happy feeling? Not at all. It turns my stomach a bit to think of what it must have been like for that headless chicken to feel such pain for so long. I don't feel like I've done anything of that chicken or the people who kept it alive as an oddity on display. I'm simply posting my opinion about it in the comment section on funnyjunk and that makes me self righteous and on a pedestal? I didn't even say they shouldn't have done it, my comment was that they should have felt sympathy for the suffering bird. Geez dude, does everything everyone says seem like they are directly scolding you and telling you they are better than you?
#59 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it looks like someone trying to act like their OPINION is the objective truth
where a simple "dude wtf" would be enough you go on a sad sap shpeel
User avatar #61 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yep. That was my motive. Most normal people wouldn't have caught it but when I said that it was disturbing that that chicken was kept alive to suffer my actual motive was to say "Hey everybody! Look at me and how moral I am! I am better than you all!"

And yes. It is objectively true that causing something else to suffer for no gain besides your amusement is morally wrong.
#65 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so you can prove, empirically, that that is true. Through a set of tests and with consistent results, you can prove what is right and wrong.
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Indeed. Given enough time and resources. But it would take an awfully lot of resources to map out the entire sum of existence and figure out of there is a god or not.
#69 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
wow, that sounds awfully faithful, like you could do something thousands of others throughout time have tried to do and have comeback inconclusive
but are my words compared to blind faith
User avatar #97 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.
User avatar #71 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
That's ok. Not everyone can put so much faith in the scientific method what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true.
#73 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what you are saying is true could easily be just as wrong as all those things we have to go back and change
User avatar #74 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Just because we don't know something is true doesn't make it any less true and vice versa.
#76 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true."
so many other things were false, but come on guys, this has to be right?
User avatar #77 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It is until it isn't.
#94 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
#92 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
No i got a release of pent up anger
and every day i can get that is a win
User avatar #93 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Well good. I'm glad we had a fruitful chat.
#88 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
today was a good day, had a good vent through a pointless internet argument, nothing was accomplished on either side. A good day.
User avatar #89 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Shame you didn't get anything out of it. I sure did.
#84 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that's because right is only right when it actually does something, again, you are only condemning others for their decisions and doing nothing about those condemnations. The chicken AND the farmer are both dead anyway so why does the morality of the situation even matter?
User avatar #86 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't condemn anyone. My word were to those who browse this chat section. They were meant to change the minds of anyone reading it who didn't agree. So there's the action you wanted. Did it? I don't know, I hope so. The reason it matters is because empathy is a subject that always matters. It's never a bad thing to discuss morality with others.
#81 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
implying you haven't been clinging to the same "it isn't right" shpeel for the entire thread
User avatar #83 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
If you can't see why hurting other living things for your amusement isn't right then I go back to my mentally unstable point from before.
And yes, I do cling to what is right and wrong. And so do you, even if you tell me that's wrong for me to do.
#78 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so looping back to "it's right because i believe"
gotcha
User avatar #79 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Finally found something you could cling to huh?
#42 - I have sympathy for a needlessly suffering animal and that put…  [+] (28 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken +1
#43 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
you have too much sympathy, its like someone freaking out over a loss in a videogame. one could call the masses of dead from the black plague needless, but the plague needed those dead people to reproduce and spread itself. sometimes we humans need a form of entertainment, and before we had all this wonderful internet and vidya, we had to make do with other forms of entertainment, like the novelty of a headless chicken that is still alive.
User avatar #44 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I have to say, I've never received such a complement as to be accused of having too much sympathy. Though I don't think one can actually have too much sympathy. To care too much about others. It's nothing like a video game. Video games aren't real. Animals are. They are dumber than people but in no way does that mean they deserve to suffer even for our gain.
And while it is fine to kill something to get its meat to eat, it is in no way fine to kill or hurt something living for your entertainment. You do no need to be entertained. And further more, if the only amusement you can get is to look at a suffering chicken who continued living without half of its head then I would say you need to take a long look at yourself.
#46 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it wasn't really a compliment, oversympathy is just an expression of naivete
not to mention it was a different time, with different morals
that sort of thing wasn't frowned upon at the time, it was more of "well lookee here jim lookit this here headless chicken, it ain't even dead!"
User avatar #47 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, I've been called naive several times. But if getting rid of my naivete requires losing my sympathy then I will stay blissfully naive I think.
But regardless of the time period it was still wrong. Just because human sacrifice was accepted by the Aztec doesn't mean it was right.
#49 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what is objectively right?
we look back and condemn because its easy
we get a little happy feeling like we've done something
when we haven't done anything
so get off your little self-righteous pedestal and join the rest of us mortals
User avatar #52 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I get a happy feeling? Not at all. It turns my stomach a bit to think of what it must have been like for that headless chicken to feel such pain for so long. I don't feel like I've done anything of that chicken or the people who kept it alive as an oddity on display. I'm simply posting my opinion about it in the comment section on funnyjunk and that makes me self righteous and on a pedestal? I didn't even say they shouldn't have done it, my comment was that they should have felt sympathy for the suffering bird. Geez dude, does everything everyone says seem like they are directly scolding you and telling you they are better than you?
#59 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it looks like someone trying to act like their OPINION is the objective truth
where a simple "dude wtf" would be enough you go on a sad sap shpeel
User avatar #61 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yep. That was my motive. Most normal people wouldn't have caught it but when I said that it was disturbing that that chicken was kept alive to suffer my actual motive was to say "Hey everybody! Look at me and how moral I am! I am better than you all!"

And yes. It is objectively true that causing something else to suffer for no gain besides your amusement is morally wrong.
#65 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so you can prove, empirically, that that is true. Through a set of tests and with consistent results, you can prove what is right and wrong.
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Indeed. Given enough time and resources. But it would take an awfully lot of resources to map out the entire sum of existence and figure out of there is a god or not.
#69 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
wow, that sounds awfully faithful, like you could do something thousands of others throughout time have tried to do and have comeback inconclusive
but are my words compared to blind faith
User avatar #97 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.
User avatar #71 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
That's ok. Not everyone can put so much faith in the scientific method what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true.
#73 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what you are saying is true could easily be just as wrong as all those things we have to go back and change
User avatar #74 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Just because we don't know something is true doesn't make it any less true and vice versa.
#76 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true."
so many other things were false, but come on guys, this has to be right?
User avatar #77 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It is until it isn't.
#94 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
#92 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
No i got a release of pent up anger
and every day i can get that is a win
User avatar #93 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Well good. I'm glad we had a fruitful chat.
#88 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
today was a good day, had a good vent through a pointless internet argument, nothing was accomplished on either side. A good day.
User avatar #89 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Shame you didn't get anything out of it. I sure did.
#84 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that's because right is only right when it actually does something, again, you are only condemning others for their decisions and doing nothing about those condemnations. The chicken AND the farmer are both dead anyway so why does the morality of the situation even matter?
User avatar #86 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't condemn anyone. My word were to those who browse this chat section. They were meant to change the minds of anyone reading it who didn't agree. So there's the action you wanted. Did it? I don't know, I hope so. The reason it matters is because empathy is a subject that always matters. It's never a bad thing to discuss morality with others.
#81 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
implying you haven't been clinging to the same "it isn't right" shpeel for the entire thread
User avatar #83 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
If you can't see why hurting other living things for your amusement isn't right then I go back to my mentally unstable point from before.
And yes, I do cling to what is right and wrong. And so do you, even if you tell me that's wrong for me to do.
#78 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so looping back to "it's right because i believe"
gotcha
User avatar #79 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Finally found something you could cling to huh?
#40 - Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?  [+] (8 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#38 - Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to c…  [+] (10 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#36 - I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Inst…  [+] (12 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#30 - True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ev…  [+] (14 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#28 - Then it is my infallible opinion that that is bad.  [+] (20 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#29 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
We're just from different walks of life.
#31 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
If it makes you feel better, I feel no sympathy for either you both or the chicken.
#33 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Congrats, Claim your apathy prize on your way to Fags house of dicks.
#34 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks man, sounds good.
#35 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Bet it does.
User avatar #30 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever lived with an animal?
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#25 - I didn't say my life compared to an animal. I said am I a pers…  [+] (23 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
User avatar #96 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for the mention, hope you are well.
#27 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
No. And im okay with that.
User avatar #28 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Then it is my infallible opinion that that is bad.
#29 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
We're just from different walks of life.
#31 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
If it makes you feel better, I feel no sympathy for either you both or the chicken.
#33 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Congrats, Claim your apathy prize on your way to Fags house of dicks.
#34 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks man, sounds good.
#35 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Bet it does.
User avatar #30 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever lived with an animal?
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#23 - You don't know me. I would assume I hold no special place in y…  [+] (25 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#24 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
As a human being to another, its my moral obligation to feel sympathy to someone of my own species. So if given a choice to choose your life over the life of an animal of any kind, whether it be chicken, dog, cat, or endangered species like the Panda or Tiger, Your life comes first. So to answer your question, Yes, I would care. Because you're a person. Like me. Who has a life, goals, potential, family, friends. We are all we have on this blue rock. But I do not care for this chicken. It has been chosen by nature to be prey.
User avatar #25 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't say my life compared to an animal. I said am I a person who is suffering, and if that deserves sympathy then why does an animal who is similarly suffering not? Don't pit an animal's suffering against a human's. The animal is suffering for no reason in a void, do you care?
User avatar #96 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for the mention, hope you are well.
#27 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
No. And im okay with that.
User avatar #28 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Then it is my infallible opinion that that is bad.
#29 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
We're just from different walks of life.
#31 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
If it makes you feel better, I feel no sympathy for either you both or the chicken.
#33 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Congrats, Claim your apathy prize on your way to Fags house of dicks.
#34 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks man, sounds good.
#35 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Bet it does.
User avatar #30 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever lived with an animal?
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#21 - And I'm just a human, nothing more. The question is how much y…  [+] (27 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken 0
#22 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
I only value things that matter to me. That chicken holds no special place in my heart and will get no sympathy from me.
User avatar #23 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
You don't know me. I would assume I hold no special place in your heart. Would I receive any sympathy were I to be suffering greatly?
#24 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
As a human being to another, its my moral obligation to feel sympathy to someone of my own species. So if given a choice to choose your life over the life of an animal of any kind, whether it be chicken, dog, cat, or endangered species like the Panda or Tiger, Your life comes first. So to answer your question, Yes, I would care. Because you're a person. Like me. Who has a life, goals, potential, family, friends. We are all we have on this blue rock. But I do not care for this chicken. It has been chosen by nature to be prey.
User avatar #25 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't say my life compared to an animal. I said am I a person who is suffering, and if that deserves sympathy then why does an animal who is similarly suffering not? Don't pit an animal's suffering against a human's. The animal is suffering for no reason in a void, do you care?
User avatar #96 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for the mention, hope you are well.
#27 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
No. And im okay with that.
User avatar #28 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Then it is my infallible opinion that that is bad.
#29 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
We're just from different walks of life.
#31 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
If it makes you feel better, I feel no sympathy for either you both or the chicken.
#33 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Congrats, Claim your apathy prize on your way to Fags house of dicks.
#34 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks man, sounds good.
#35 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Bet it does.
User avatar #30 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever lived with an animal?
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#19 - It's a common among the mentally ill to not be able to feel em…  [+] (33 new replies) 02/22/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken +1
#53 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"let's compare them to the mentally ill to feel superior"
User avatar #56 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It's not that at all. It really is a trend that many serial killers displayed inability to identify with the suffering of others at young ages, especially with animals who they would torture for enjoyment.
#60 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so someone commenting that they feel nothing for a chicken, that they themselves did nothing to, is alike to a serial killer
flawless logic
User avatar #63 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
When that "nothing" that they feel actually is alike to a serial killer then yes. It literally is flawless logic....
#20 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
its just a chicken, nothing more.
User avatar #21 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
And I'm just a human, nothing more. The question is how much you value said life form. Does its suffering matter to you? What if that suffering is unnecessary and only for the entertainment of others?
#22 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
I only value things that matter to me. That chicken holds no special place in my heart and will get no sympathy from me.
User avatar #23 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
You don't know me. I would assume I hold no special place in your heart. Would I receive any sympathy were I to be suffering greatly?
#24 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
As a human being to another, its my moral obligation to feel sympathy to someone of my own species. So if given a choice to choose your life over the life of an animal of any kind, whether it be chicken, dog, cat, or endangered species like the Panda or Tiger, Your life comes first. So to answer your question, Yes, I would care. Because you're a person. Like me. Who has a life, goals, potential, family, friends. We are all we have on this blue rock. But I do not care for this chicken. It has been chosen by nature to be prey.
User avatar #25 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't say my life compared to an animal. I said am I a person who is suffering, and if that deserves sympathy then why does an animal who is similarly suffering not? Don't pit an animal's suffering against a human's. The animal is suffering for no reason in a void, do you care?
User avatar #96 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for the mention, hope you are well.
#27 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
No. And im okay with that.
User avatar #28 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Then it is my infallible opinion that that is bad.
#29 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
We're just from different walks of life.
#31 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
If it makes you feel better, I feel no sympathy for either you both or the chicken.
#33 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Congrats, Claim your apathy prize on your way to Fags house of dicks.
#34 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks man, sounds good.
#35 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Bet it does.
User avatar #30 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever lived with an animal?
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
#17 - So it didn't have its head cut off, it had its face cut off an…  [+] (78 new replies) 02/21/2015 on Mike the Headless Chicken +4
#41 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
woah there tumblr, calm the fuck down, its an animal we eat to meet our protein needs as omnivores.
User avatar #45 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
meat eater of dimensions here
not actually possible for me to go veggie, due to stomach disease
yeah, kill them and eat them
but don't leave them in agony for a long-ass time or torture them.
quick deaths.
#48 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it's not even torturing the thing, it was being fed its owners even went to greater lengths to feed it and was probably in a more comfortable state of living than pre-decap
User avatar #50 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
...
do you know anything about how pain works?
getting your face cut off is rather painfull.
getting no medical treatment for it, no painkillers, no nothing, means it was very likely a very large amount of pain, for a very long time.
#51 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
there were probably plenty of people who had to deal with that at the time too
but where's the sad wagon for them
User avatar #55 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
and then you defending it.
User avatar #54 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
it's not a sad wagon
it's just a statement of "you shouldn't do this, this is a bad thing"
#57 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
i'm pointing out people getting bent out of shape over a chicken
not the treatment of chickens in farming
not any sort of actual event
but one chicken that's been dead for years now
it just looks like people trying to feel better about themselves
it looks just like people who comment on feminazi posts
User avatar #58 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
"getting bent out of shape"
the guy literally just pointed out why it was bad, and you jumped onto "woah there tumblr, calm the fuck down"

noone's getting bent out of shape but you, here.
#62 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
you are actually right there, i am getting bent out of shape
but it comes off as someone trying to take the moral high ground
which in my opinion is no different from the vocal minority at tumblr
#64 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
just take a chill pill and sit back
people will be people
tards will be tards
the world goes on.
#67 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that is true, but sometimes we get angry at things
and if we don't vent that, we take it out on other things
User avatar #68 - trollmobile (02/22/2015) [-]
i go here funnyjunk.com/autism/ to whine and vent.
noone listens, noone reacts
but i know they read it.
#75 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
amazing
User avatar #42 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I have sympathy for a needlessly suffering animal and that puts me on par with those on tumblr? Of course it's an animal. If you had read the post you replied to then you'd realize that's exactly what I said. But just because you eat something doesn't mean it's ok to torture that thing needlessly.
#43 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
you have too much sympathy, its like someone freaking out over a loss in a videogame. one could call the masses of dead from the black plague needless, but the plague needed those dead people to reproduce and spread itself. sometimes we humans need a form of entertainment, and before we had all this wonderful internet and vidya, we had to make do with other forms of entertainment, like the novelty of a headless chicken that is still alive.
User avatar #44 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I have to say, I've never received such a complement as to be accused of having too much sympathy. Though I don't think one can actually have too much sympathy. To care too much about others. It's nothing like a video game. Video games aren't real. Animals are. They are dumber than people but in no way does that mean they deserve to suffer even for our gain.
And while it is fine to kill something to get its meat to eat, it is in no way fine to kill or hurt something living for your entertainment. You do no need to be entertained. And further more, if the only amusement you can get is to look at a suffering chicken who continued living without half of its head then I would say you need to take a long look at yourself.
#46 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it wasn't really a compliment, oversympathy is just an expression of naivete
not to mention it was a different time, with different morals
that sort of thing wasn't frowned upon at the time, it was more of "well lookee here jim lookit this here headless chicken, it ain't even dead!"
User avatar #47 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, I've been called naive several times. But if getting rid of my naivete requires losing my sympathy then I will stay blissfully naive I think.
But regardless of the time period it was still wrong. Just because human sacrifice was accepted by the Aztec doesn't mean it was right.
#49 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what is objectively right?
we look back and condemn because its easy
we get a little happy feeling like we've done something
when we haven't done anything
so get off your little self-righteous pedestal and join the rest of us mortals
User avatar #52 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I get a happy feeling? Not at all. It turns my stomach a bit to think of what it must have been like for that headless chicken to feel such pain for so long. I don't feel like I've done anything of that chicken or the people who kept it alive as an oddity on display. I'm simply posting my opinion about it in the comment section on funnyjunk and that makes me self righteous and on a pedestal? I didn't even say they shouldn't have done it, my comment was that they should have felt sympathy for the suffering bird. Geez dude, does everything everyone says seem like they are directly scolding you and telling you they are better than you?
#59 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
it looks like someone trying to act like their OPINION is the objective truth
where a simple "dude wtf" would be enough you go on a sad sap shpeel
User avatar #61 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yep. That was my motive. Most normal people wouldn't have caught it but when I said that it was disturbing that that chicken was kept alive to suffer my actual motive was to say "Hey everybody! Look at me and how moral I am! I am better than you all!"

And yes. It is objectively true that causing something else to suffer for no gain besides your amusement is morally wrong.
#65 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so you can prove, empirically, that that is true. Through a set of tests and with consistent results, you can prove what is right and wrong.
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Indeed. Given enough time and resources. But it would take an awfully lot of resources to map out the entire sum of existence and figure out of there is a god or not.
#69 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
wow, that sounds awfully faithful, like you could do something thousands of others throughout time have tried to do and have comeback inconclusive
but are my words compared to blind faith
User avatar #97 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for using a comparison, hope you are well.
User avatar #71 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
That's ok. Not everyone can put so much faith in the scientific method what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true.
#73 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
then what you are saying is true could easily be just as wrong as all those things we have to go back and change
User avatar #74 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Just because we don't know something is true doesn't make it any less true and vice versa.
#76 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"what with it constantly going back on it'self to write over what it used to think was true."
so many other things were false, but come on guys, this has to be right?
User avatar #77 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It is until it isn't.
#94 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
#92 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
No i got a release of pent up anger
and every day i can get that is a win
User avatar #93 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Well good. I'm glad we had a fruitful chat.
#88 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
today was a good day, had a good vent through a pointless internet argument, nothing was accomplished on either side. A good day.
User avatar #89 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Shame you didn't get anything out of it. I sure did.
#84 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
that's because right is only right when it actually does something, again, you are only condemning others for their decisions and doing nothing about those condemnations. The chicken AND the farmer are both dead anyway so why does the morality of the situation even matter?
User avatar #86 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't condemn anyone. My word were to those who browse this chat section. They were meant to change the minds of anyone reading it who didn't agree. So there's the action you wanted. Did it? I don't know, I hope so. The reason it matters is because empathy is a subject that always matters. It's never a bad thing to discuss morality with others.
#81 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
implying you haven't been clinging to the same "it isn't right" shpeel for the entire thread
User avatar #83 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
If you can't see why hurting other living things for your amusement isn't right then I go back to my mentally unstable point from before.
And yes, I do cling to what is right and wrong. And so do you, even if you tell me that's wrong for me to do.
#78 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so looping back to "it's right because i believe"
gotcha
User avatar #79 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Finally found something you could cling to huh?
#18 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
I think I won't lose any sleep over it.
User avatar #19 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It's a common among the mentally ill to not be able to feel empathy for suffering animals so i would worry for you.
#53 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
"let's compare them to the mentally ill to feel superior"
User avatar #56 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
It's not that at all. It really is a trend that many serial killers displayed inability to identify with the suffering of others at young ages, especially with animals who they would torture for enjoyment.
#60 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
so someone commenting that they feel nothing for a chicken, that they themselves did nothing to, is alike to a serial killer
flawless logic
User avatar #63 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
When that "nothing" that they feel actually is alike to a serial killer then yes. It literally is flawless logic....
#20 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
its just a chicken, nothing more.
User avatar #21 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
And I'm just a human, nothing more. The question is how much you value said life form. Does its suffering matter to you? What if that suffering is unnecessary and only for the entertainment of others?
#22 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
I only value things that matter to me. That chicken holds no special place in my heart and will get no sympathy from me.
User avatar #23 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
You don't know me. I would assume I hold no special place in your heart. Would I receive any sympathy were I to be suffering greatly?
#24 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
As a human being to another, its my moral obligation to feel sympathy to someone of my own species. So if given a choice to choose your life over the life of an animal of any kind, whether it be chicken, dog, cat, or endangered species like the Panda or Tiger, Your life comes first. So to answer your question, Yes, I would care. Because you're a person. Like me. Who has a life, goals, potential, family, friends. We are all we have on this blue rock. But I do not care for this chicken. It has been chosen by nature to be prey.
User avatar #25 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I didn't say my life compared to an animal. I said am I a person who is suffering, and if that deserves sympathy then why does an animal who is similarly suffering not? Don't pit an animal's suffering against a human's. The animal is suffering for no reason in a void, do you care?
User avatar #96 - compared (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks for the mention, hope you are well.
#27 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
No. And im okay with that.
User avatar #28 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Then it is my infallible opinion that that is bad.
#29 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
We're just from different walks of life.
#31 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
If it makes you feel better, I feel no sympathy for either you both or the chicken.
#33 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Congrats, Claim your apathy prize on your way to Fags house of dicks.
#34 - vannon (02/22/2015) [-]
Thanks man, sounds good.
#35 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Bet it does.
User avatar #30 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
True. Tell me, why do you think you feel that way? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever lived with an animal?
#32 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Just emotional detachment. I killed a dog with rabies in my backyard once when I was 15. I used to have a doberman but it died of old age when I was really young, I don't remember it much.
User avatar #36 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I see. I guess my way of thinking came from the opposite. Instead of emotional detachment I garnered respect and empathy from the death around me and when I would behead a chicken we raised. It's understood that the animal is there for a purpose, to be killed and eaten. But to kill it for fun or torture it for amusement was simply wrong.
#37 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Its not that i enjoy it, its just I don't feel bad about it.
User avatar #38 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Yes, you block it out instead of face it. It's easier not to care with a hardened heart.
#39 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
i wouldn't consider it 'blocking it out' just, it dulled me out. Its just life, things live, things prosper, sometimes, things don't. Its just the way it goes. Its been that way for millions of years before, and will be for millions of years after. Suffering is just something everything goes through.
User avatar #40 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Is suffering worth stopping where you can stop it?
#90 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life, It can drag us through a number of things, Though sometimes, its up to us to determine what its dragging us in.
User avatar #91 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Life is life.
#85 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
Suffering builds character. But I know a little something about pain. I'm sure everyone does. So there is such a thing called too much suffering and depending on the degree of it, Some pain is worth preventing. There are some God forsaken things people just shouldn't have to experience. Whether it be emotional or physical. That, I know for sure.
User avatar #87 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I agree. Suffering can make you stronger. But that's not always a good thing. I think I would rather my brother be a weaker person than have to go through torture. That same strength, I would argue, can be gained through discipline and understanding which is a much milder form of suffering if suffering at all.
#80 - solomonkane (02/22/2015) [-]
You can't ever really stop suffering. Not without actually killing.
User avatar #82 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
Perhaps I should have used the word "prevent" then?
#70 - lardking (02/22/2015) [-]
would you avoid stepping on an ant if doing so was a mild inconvenience?
User avatar #72 - Vandeekree (02/22/2015) [-]
I would and have on occasion.
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#25 - kulamia (02/12/2015) [-]
that's the stupid, illogical argument used by Theists and Athiests who are full of as much shit as they are their beliefs.
#12 - ragnarfag (02/11/2015) [-]
Well, I can't help it being right all the time.
User avatar #16 - noneckcomics (02/12/2015) [-]
That guy in the picture, I think I know him..
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#511 - popeflatus (02/09/2015) [-]
I don't think so. Just watch those videos and them I'll have some more for you. Bye.
User avatar #512 - Vandeekree (02/09/2015) [-]
Trust me. As the guy who was attempting to make the point, you did not at all get my point. Like you didn't get it an then disagree with it dispite understanding. You just argued against things I didn't say and brought up contradictions where I wasn't making any. Which, again, was probably my short coming, not yours.
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#509 - popeflatus (02/09/2015) [-]
No, I have understood you quite well, but you need to check out the burden of proof when it comes to logic. It is extremely important to understand. Check those videos when you have some time. Bye friend.
User avatar #510 - Vandeekree (02/09/2015) [-]
Trust me, message 500 shows me that you didn't get any of three topics you listed. I know you think you did but you really didn't.
#511 - popeflatus (02/09/2015) [-]
I don't think so. Just watch those videos and them I'll have some more for you. Bye.
User avatar #512 - Vandeekree (02/09/2015) [-]
Trust me. As the guy who was attempting to make the point, you did not at all get my point. Like you didn't get it an then disagree with it dispite understanding. You just argued against things I didn't say and brought up contradictions where I wasn't making any. Which, again, was probably my short coming, not yours.
#499 - I kind of wonder if you actually read my posts or just hurried…  [+] (6 new replies) 02/09/2015 on Grandma 0
#500 - popeflatus (02/09/2015) [-]
I read them all.

You did say that you showed me that Humans emerged from Africa but that was my explicit point all along.

You said the Bible claim about Adam being the first man is true but later you said he had a mother as well. Obviously non-biblical there and proof you've changed your story.

The physical Mesopotamian evidence is solid no pun intended , and it shows which stories came first and who wrote them. Go and write your papers disproving the current science and historical research. The evidence is strongly stacked against you otherwise those papers would conform to your preconceived notions about the universe based on an old book.
User avatar #508 - Vandeekree (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah, that's what i kind of thought. You don't seem to have understood much of anything I was saying which may very well be my fault for not expressing it in a clear way.
But I have been arguing on here with various people all night, the latest of which being you and I have finally run out of steam so reread my messages if you care to understand because I'm too tuckered to say no more.
#509 - popeflatus (02/09/2015) [-]
No, I have understood you quite well, but you need to check out the burden of proof when it comes to logic. It is extremely important to understand. Check those videos when you have some time. Bye friend.
User avatar #510 - Vandeekree (02/09/2015) [-]
Trust me, message 500 shows me that you didn't get any of three topics you listed. I know you think you did but you really didn't.
#511 - popeflatus (02/09/2015) [-]
I don't think so. Just watch those videos and them I'll have some more for you. Bye.
User avatar #512 - Vandeekree (02/09/2015) [-]
Trust me. As the guy who was attempting to make the point, you did not at all get my point. Like you didn't get it an then disagree with it dispite understanding. You just argued against things I didn't say and brought up contradictions where I wasn't making any. Which, again, was probably my short coming, not yours.

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#27 - fedexman (05/09/2015) [-]
We need more people like you on FJ
We need more people like you on FJ
User avatar #28 to #27 - Vandeekree ONLINE (05/09/2015) [-]
Thanks, might I ask what brought this comment about?
User avatar #29 to #28 - fedexman (05/09/2015) [-]
Just appreciate what you say, too many ignorant people these days,keep it up man.
User avatar #19 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (05/09/2013) [-]
Do you not have morals? Like seriously do you not have any? You claim that you only do as the bible instructs every time someone asks you about morals, but do you not know right from wrong without religion?

If so perhaps you should learn it. I'm an agnostic and I still know what's right from wrong without a higher entity instructing me on it. If the only thing keeping you from being a moral-less prick is religion then you are probably a psychopath.
User avatar #16 - justinsane (04/04/2013) [-]
Lets just put this here, shall we? Fewer purple lines
User avatar #18 to #16 - justinsane (04/04/2013) [-]
Now I strongly disagree that more studies need to be done in order to come to a consensus. All of the leading bodies which have done research on the subject have found no reason to indicate that gays are naturally more likely through their expression of sexuality to have any types of adverse effects. The only people I have heard calling for more research are the same people claiming that climate change is not a thing or that natural selection doesnt happen. There is a consensus in the scientific community and it is people who are not a part of the community who claim that they cant make conclusions (because they dont like the ones made)
User avatar #17 to #16 - Vandeekree ONLINE (04/04/2013) [-]
Tis a good idea
#14 - highclassbean (02/11/2013) [-]
thank you for being so informative and calm in that religious conversation with thebritish.guy. really gave a positive look on the religious community.
User avatar #15 to #14 - Vandeekree ONLINE (02/11/2013) [-]
Why thank you. Simply following the bible though. It says to approach the nonbeliever with respect and politeness.
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******* idiot.
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User avatar #2 to #1 - Vandeekree ONLINE (07/14/2010) [-]
Thank you, now I feel loved. i guess that's what I get for posting in the morning when the average funnyjunker is asleep.
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