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#83 - Broxigar would put hearts in anyone's eyes. Even giant planet-…  [+] (1 reply) 11/29/2016 on Crazy How Nature Do Dat 0
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#84 - volksworgen (11/29/2016) [-]
Hearts in the eyes and crazy nature axes into space satans
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#84 - Well, he was apparently unable to stay erect and fell asleep s…  [+] (1 reply) 11/29/2016 on Amy Schumer +11
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#97 - fables (11/29/2016) [-]
that's why I said if, but you're right
#28 - There literally is a date when they become a human. When it's …  [+] (13 replies) 11/29/2016 on ABORT IT +7
#30 - turbontine (11/29/2016) [-]
IMO that is still entirely arbitrary. Why the brain? It's just another fleshy organ in the body, and it hasn't come close to developing the structures that allow it to process thought like you would associate with people. Why not the heart? Why not when gender-specific organs have formed?

You don't get to decide the date when they "literally" become a human. They're always human. We're talking about when the baby achieves personhood.
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#32 - gravysponge (11/29/2016) [-]
Uh, because the brain is what generates consciousness and that's what's actually important when it comes to what makes a human being?

Aborting before there is brain activity is the same thin in my mind as pulling the plug on a braindead person. There isn't anyone home, the only thing there is an organism kept alive by the intervention of outside forces (be they hospital machinery or womb machinery), and there is no one around to experience death if it occurs.

Just as pulling the plug on someone should not be taken lightly, aborting a fetus should not be taken lightly. A fetus past the point of developing brain activity should not be aborted in my opinion, mostly because you should decide whether to abort as early as possible anyway. However, an adult's life is in my mind definitely more valuable than a fetus' life even if it is late term, because an adult has a fully developed consciousness and experience of a complex world, whereas a fetus at best has the building blocks of the basics of a mind that will not be fully realized until a while after birth.

Put simply, abort early, abort often. A zygote isn't a person, and people are what matter.
#35 - turbontine (11/29/2016) [-]
The analogy is really pretty until you realize that a braindead patient can never think again and a baby murdered before the development of a brain was never given the chance to think.

Even if you don't consider a zygote to be a human being (It is btw) you would at least give it the same rights as an animal, right? And if we find it morally wrong to murder puppies and kittens then I really wonder where the moral compass falls when you're murdering something with human DNA?

Look, at the end of the day we're going to have to agree to disagree.

If it has human DNA and it's not a vegetable on the way out the door anyways to me that is a person. The one rare case where abortion is okay to me is if the mother is going to kill herself over it, or if the baby risks killing the mother before/on delivery. In that situation it's one human life vs. another and I'm going to let the one that can fend for itself live.
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#51 - gravysponge (11/29/2016) [-]
So if I take one of the stem cells in my bone marrow and put it in a dish and keep it at the right temperature, that's a human to you, right? Even though it is just one, unthinking cell, it must be a human because it has a full set of human DNA and could develop into a human with exposure to the right hormones, right?

Going further, since we already have the ability to take simple skin cells, revert them into stem cells, and then expose those stem cells to the hormones that will cause them to develop into embryos, that means all the skin cells in my body and in your body are potentially babies right? And therefore just by exfoliating every day we both kill billions of potential people and are each thousands of times worse than Hitler, right?

Listen, a zygote is not a person. It's not even a human really, it's one cell. One. Given 9 months or so in the right environment with a constant supply of oxygen, nutrients, and warmth, and you'll end up with a human capable of supporting itself biologically (can supply its own food and water and oxygen via digestion and respiration). HOWEVER, the fact that the potential is there is nothing. You for example have the potential to be a world class architect, a serial rapist, a dedicated parent, a political activist, and trillions of other possible things. Just because you have the potential to kill hundreds of people means you need to be put in jail immediately, because you're already a mass murderer right? Just because you have the potential to invent a cure for zika means you already deserve a Nobel prize in medicine right? Potential is shit, it means nothing. Everything has potential so it doesn't matter.

As for the whole animal thing, do you eat any kind of meat? If you do you support the killing of animals, and adult thinking animals that experience things at that. That makes you as bad as a person who aborts twins 9 days before their due date right?

Basing what's good and bad on human DNA is a really shit way of doing things. I personally find many things done to animals to be morally questionable because they are fully conscious beings. We should be killing animals using nitrogen asphyxiation because it is as painless as it gets, but I digress. If you are aborting a fetus without brain activity you're essentially killing a plant, ending the life of a mindless organism that cannot experience pain.

I really want to stress here that I don't encourage abortion, I simply accept that it is not morally questionable until brain activity is occurring in the fetus. Abortion should absolutely be a last resort, it is dangerous to the woman and can lead to permanent medical problems. Contraception should always be the first action.
#48 - anon (11/29/2016) [-]
Also even if I agreed with you the justification that its okay if the mother is suicidal is ridiculous. So the insecurities of the mother suddenly justify what you original claimed was murder. That's the worst possible justification I could think of.
#38 - anon (11/29/2016) [-]
So you think masturbating is murder too or only after it becomes a fertilized ovum?
#40 - turbontine (11/29/2016) [-]
No, ugh, conception is when I believe it happens. Sperm is only half of a person.
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#63 - gravysponge (11/29/2016) [-]
It is genetically possible to convert normal human stem cells directly into zygote cells that will develop into babies on their own if they are in the right environment, that means according to your logic there are currently hundreds of millions of human babies in your bone marrow right now, and they're all being created and killed at a rate of millions per day in order to be converted into your blood cells.
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#64 - gravysponge (11/29/2016) [-]
*And by convert I mean expose to the right hormones, essentially just flipping a genetic switch.
#41 - anon (11/29/2016) [-]
So you're dictating the magical point when life is created?
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#37 - ninjaroo (11/29/2016) [-]
By that logic, it's wrong to kill cancer because it's human.

I understand if you believe in a soul or something, but to me, being made of meat doesn't make you important. It's being a person that does that, which can't happen if they don't have a brain yet.
#39 - turbontine (11/29/2016) [-]
Cancer threatens your life, that's the difference. Read the end of my comment, that's the takeaway. I'm done with this argument, it's late & I don't wanna discuss the justification of murder anymore.
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#42 - ninjaroo (11/29/2016) [-]
I mean, sure. I think literally everything you've said so far is so far off the mark that if this were archery you'd have shot the crowd, but sure.
#50 - Hey, piss off. She is a national treasure and one of the great…  [+] (2 replies) 11/29/2016 on Amy Schumer +27
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#51 - wellimnotsure (11/29/2016) [-]
9.5 out of 10. Should have used the word "ham" "pig" in there somewhere
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#144 - rejakted (11/29/2016) [-]
Hamy Schumer*
#1509891 - These "hopeless" horror games where you can't win an…  [+] (10 replies) 11/29/2016 on Video Games 0
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#1509897 - nosurprise (11/29/2016) [-]
I agree, there are way too many horror games out there made by people that know jack shit about designing a horror game
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#1509894 - ohemgeezus (11/29/2016) [-]
what do you mean by that? In alien isolation, the xenomorph is invincible, so I guess that fits what you're saying, but still it's a god dang good game
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#1509992 - Tyranitar (11/29/2016) [-]
Yeah, but the game ends with you getting away from the thing. I'm talking about games that, no matter what you do or how well you do it, you can't survive or get away. It's boring to play a game if the best ending is no better than a game over.
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#1509909 - thematthew (11/29/2016) [-]
games like slender, where you keep going till you die.
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#1509896 - desacabose (11/29/2016) [-]
Is he saying games where you can't kill the thing
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#1509901 - ohemgeezus (11/29/2016) [-]
I think so, that's what I'm asking about because he said "where you can't win", since you can't kill the xenomorph at all
#1509892 - anon (11/29/2016) [-]
havent played one since slender man
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#1509893 - desacabose (11/29/2016) [-]
Can't you beat slender though
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#1509912 - thematthew (11/29/2016) [-]
nah, once you get all 8 pages he kills you.
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#1509915 - desacabose (11/29/2016) [-]
ah fuck