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#85 - The P90 disagrees.  [+] (2 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -1
User avatar #86 - kilotech (01/23/2015) [-]
a submachine gun is any weapon chambered in pistol rounds capable of using fully automatic or burst fire, if it's semi auto it's not an SMG, it's a pistol, if it's using rifle rounds it's not an SMG, it's a rifle. if you can't get basic concepts of firearms you shouldn't be talking about them
#87 - TheMather (01/24/2015) [-]
The FN P90 is an SMG (specifically of the PDW subtype), but it fires 5.7x28mm rounds (picture related).
#72 - Did you somehow completely miss the word submachinegun ? 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -1
#28 - They had to obey it because the regulations were above them. T…  [+] (1 new reply) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -3
#38 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* Yeah... random shooters don't work in teams or have any training.

Yeah... the Columbine shooters, plural, were two uncooperative individuals with completely separate agendas who happened to plan things ahead, like planting a bomb miles away to distract the police, were completely separate from one another and didn't work together in any effective way. *end sarcasm*
#26 - Military-grade submachineguns are chambered with rifle round…  [+] (9 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -4
User avatar #84 - kilotech (01/23/2015) [-]
a submachine gun by definition uses pistol rounds
User avatar #85 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
The P90 disagrees.
User avatar #86 - kilotech (01/23/2015) [-]
a submachine gun is any weapon chambered in pistol rounds capable of using fully automatic or burst fire, if it's semi auto it's not an SMG, it's a pistol, if it's using rifle rounds it's not an SMG, it's a rifle. if you can't get basic concepts of firearms you shouldn't be talking about them
#87 - TheMather (01/24/2015) [-]
The FN P90 is an SMG (specifically of the PDW subtype), but it fires 5.7x28mm rounds (picture related).
#34 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Do you even do any research? What do you think hunting rifles and the AR-15 use? The Ak47 generally uses 7.62x39 rounds and I can have 500 of them mailed to my house within a few days for $100, or 22 cents per round, which is cheaper than 9mm ammo.

California is also one of, if not the only, state with a specific ban on 50 caliber rifles. THE ONLY STATE WITH A BAN. That means you can buy a 50 caliber rifle LEGALLY in most other states. You don't get more 'military-grade high powered' than a 50 caliber.

What is banned are the high penetration explosive rounds that can pierce 6 feet of concrete and brick and then set off an explosive after exiting the other side of the wall.
User avatar #72 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Did you somehow completely miss the word submachinegun?
#27 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Lol let me tell you about securitas. They worked on my college campus. It was a gun free zone. Guess what? That applied to them too. They weren't legally allowed to have a firearm on them while on school grounds. So tell me more about companies like Securitas, because they have to obey those rules too. And I'm not concerned with one person. A three man team like what happened in France is what I am worried about. Get a group of just a few criminals together and they become an effective force. Doesn't take much to get into the military grade weapons. It's just as easy to get illegal military weapons as it is to get civ weapons.
User avatar #28 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
They had to obey it because the regulations were above them. They weren't in charge of security there, just tasked with enforcing it. When they're in charge, they make the rules.
And random shooters don't work in teams. They attacked Charlie Hebdo in a team because that was a targeted attack, they weren't after random civilians.
Russian weapons are easy to obtain, Chinese weapons are easy to obtain, Israeli, American, Swiss, German and Belgian weapons are not. And the former two are way behind, they are the ones that chamber pistol rounds.
#38 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* Yeah... random shooters don't work in teams or have any training.

Yeah... the Columbine shooters, plural, were two uncooperative individuals with completely separate agendas who happened to plan things ahead, like planting a bomb miles away to distract the police, were completely separate from one another and didn't work together in any effective way. *end sarcasm*
#24 - >Fully automatic rifle >Submachine gun Yes,…  [+] (4 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -3
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
#22 - Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure th…  [+] (6 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -3
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
#20 - That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door wit…  [+] (8 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -3
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
#18 - Look, you won't get over a 10 thousand in a mall even during a…  [+] (11 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -2
#41 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* So being able to perfectly survail everyone and able to detect even the most inconspicuous of criminals is why shoplifting is no longer a major problem. The NASP doesn't say there's 27 million shoplifters in the US... we caught them all *end sarcasm*

The fact is, if major corporations could actually implement a system as efficient as you are describing in a manner that isn't counter productive to profit then they would have already. They haven't; because it's too expensive and impractical. Having a security force so strong that you can literally see a guard everywhere you look would drive off customers (no one likes being watched, even if it's for their own good).
#19 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
"trouble makers". I think one guy with a fully automatic rifle constitutes more than that. And by the time officers show up, he's out of ammo, and either surrendering, or committing suicide.
User avatar #20 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door with 2 or 3 handguns pointed at his face immediately, courtesy of the security guards. He would not have time to cause trouble since it's standard procedure to pay extra attention to the entrances.
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
#16 - You don't have 300 million shoppers in a mall at a time.  [+] (13 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -1
#17 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Go to mall in a big city. It may not be 300 million, but it's a whole lot more than any security force is going to be able to handle.
User avatar #18 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Look, you won't get over a 10 thousand in a mall even during a large convention. Even a large mall is lucky to get that many in a day. At most you'll have one or two thousand shoppers in a huge mall during the busy hours. And in the same mall you'll have maybe 150-200 cameras divided over several security sectors. With probably 5-10 guards assigned to each sector.
Should the entire mall riot at once, then no you won't have enough guards, but you have more than enough guards and equipment to keep surveillance of everyone and take care of any troublemakers.
#41 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* So being able to perfectly survail everyone and able to detect even the most inconspicuous of criminals is why shoplifting is no longer a major problem. The NASP doesn't say there's 27 million shoplifters in the US... we caught them all *end sarcasm*

The fact is, if major corporations could actually implement a system as efficient as you are describing in a manner that isn't counter productive to profit then they would have already. They haven't; because it's too expensive and impractical. Having a security force so strong that you can literally see a guard everywhere you look would drive off customers (no one likes being watched, even if it's for their own good).
#19 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
"trouble makers". I think one guy with a fully automatic rifle constitutes more than that. And by the time officers show up, he's out of ammo, and either surrendering, or committing suicide.
User avatar #20 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door with 2 or 3 handguns pointed at his face immediately, courtesy of the security guards. He would not have time to cause trouble since it's standard procedure to pay extra attention to the entrances.
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
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#75 - Crisakapsycho (01/24/2015) [-]
Zaheer and his gang were never a part of the original White Lotus. The Red Lotus was founded by Xai Bau right after the hundred year war when The White Lotus had become public. Zaheer would have been a baby or not even have been born yet at this time. The way he interacts and cares for his friends always gave me the impression that they had known each other for a very long time. Whose to say that it wasn't they're harsh childhood that made them decide to join the Red Lotus, I believe that fits their character if it were true.
User avatar #45 - somuchfreedom (01/24/2015) [-]
how the fuck did she ming learn bending without arms when arms are pretty much a pre-requisit for all bending minus a few examples, especially in water bending
#14 - anonymous (01/23/2015) [-]
Thought the same thing

I think Zaheer did mention they became against order and stuff after the white lotus got "corrupted"
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#15 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because I'm sure they have enough man power and resources to police 300 million people.
User avatar #16 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You don't have 300 million shoppers in a mall at a time.
#17 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Go to mall in a big city. It may not be 300 million, but it's a whole lot more than any security force is going to be able to handle.
User avatar #18 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Look, you won't get over a 10 thousand in a mall even during a large convention. Even a large mall is lucky to get that many in a day. At most you'll have one or two thousand shoppers in a huge mall during the busy hours. And in the same mall you'll have maybe 150-200 cameras divided over several security sectors. With probably 5-10 guards assigned to each sector.
Should the entire mall riot at once, then no you won't have enough guards, but you have more than enough guards and equipment to keep surveillance of everyone and take care of any troublemakers.
#41 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* So being able to perfectly survail everyone and able to detect even the most inconspicuous of criminals is why shoplifting is no longer a major problem. The NASP doesn't say there's 27 million shoplifters in the US... we caught them all *end sarcasm*

The fact is, if major corporations could actually implement a system as efficient as you are describing in a manner that isn't counter productive to profit then they would have already. They haven't; because it's too expensive and impractical. Having a security force so strong that you can literally see a guard everywhere you look would drive off customers (no one likes being watched, even if it's for their own good).
#19 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
"trouble makers". I think one guy with a fully automatic rifle constitutes more than that. And by the time officers show up, he's out of ammo, and either surrendering, or committing suicide.
User avatar #20 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door with 2 or 3 handguns pointed at his face immediately, courtesy of the security guards. He would not have time to cause trouble since it's standard procedure to pay extra attention to the entrances.
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
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#35 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The moment that guard taps them on the shoulder is when the blood bath will begin. You are very naive.

PERHAPS spotting a gun on a gunman and taking him aside before he starts shooting will defuse SOME situations. Very rarely. Compare it to suicide; talking down someone who is suicidal SOMETIMES works, but on the other end of the spectrum you have people you have to forcible stop from killing themselves. You have to yank them off the ledge, or overwhelm them with force. And everyday we fail to stop many, many people from killing themselves. Just like suicide, shooting up a public area is a premeditated, and deliberate action of someone who feels as if society has failed them, or they're too mentally disturbed to be helped.

If we detect the warning signs we might be able to talk them down. And while they are hesitating moments before pulling out the guns to start off their attack we might have the opportunity to talk them down; but once they've decided they are going to do what they are going to do the most we can do to stop it is to use deadly force.

An unarmed guard MIGHT be able to diffuse a horrible situation, but it's not foolproof and that unarmed guard will PROBABLY just end up being the first victim.
#13 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because people are all going to trained to recognize those things right? There will always just happen to be a cop around. And Bags and other such things couldn't hide a large gun. And he's totes gonna wait for the cops to arrive after pulling hiss gun and not shoot immediately. Yeah he'll TOTALLY wait the fifteen minutes for the authorities to show up.
User avatar #14 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You know privatized security companies exist right? Say the no-gun zone in question is a mall, then that mall hires a security company to take care of the surveillance, alarms and guards. That's how stuff works.
#15 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because I'm sure they have enough man power and resources to police 300 million people.
User avatar #16 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You don't have 300 million shoppers in a mall at a time.
#17 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Go to mall in a big city. It may not be 300 million, but it's a whole lot more than any security force is going to be able to handle.
User avatar #18 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Look, you won't get over a 10 thousand in a mall even during a large convention. Even a large mall is lucky to get that many in a day. At most you'll have one or two thousand shoppers in a huge mall during the busy hours. And in the same mall you'll have maybe 150-200 cameras divided over several security sectors. With probably 5-10 guards assigned to each sector.
Should the entire mall riot at once, then no you won't have enough guards, but you have more than enough guards and equipment to keep surveillance of everyone and take care of any troublemakers.
#41 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* So being able to perfectly survail everyone and able to detect even the most inconspicuous of criminals is why shoplifting is no longer a major problem. The NASP doesn't say there's 27 million shoplifters in the US... we caught them all *end sarcasm*

The fact is, if major corporations could actually implement a system as efficient as you are describing in a manner that isn't counter productive to profit then they would have already. They haven't; because it's too expensive and impractical. Having a security force so strong that you can literally see a guard everywhere you look would drive off customers (no one likes being watched, even if it's for their own good).
#19 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
"trouble makers". I think one guy with a fully automatic rifle constitutes more than that. And by the time officers show up, he's out of ammo, and either surrendering, or committing suicide.
User avatar #20 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door with 2 or 3 handguns pointed at his face immediately, courtesy of the security guards. He would not have time to cause trouble since it's standard procedure to pay extra attention to the entrances.
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
#10 - You don't. You see a weapon; you throw them out or detain them…  [+] (20 new replies) 01/23/2015 on 2edgy4u -3
#11 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Did you not even read the concealed weapon part? Concealing a gun is super easy. One big jacket during the winter, a gym bag when going on trips, literally anything can be used to hide a weapon.
User avatar #12 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yes, and guess what? You have to pull the weapon out of hiding before you can use it. Security guard see someone looking around shiftily while reaching into their jacket/bag? Tap them on the shoulder and bring them aside.
Also concealment is not always perfect; see a holster on the inside of someone's jacket? Stop them.

It won't catch everyone, but it will catch some, and it'll prevent anyone from bringing large weapons. And that is better than catching none.
#35 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The moment that guard taps them on the shoulder is when the blood bath will begin. You are very naive.

PERHAPS spotting a gun on a gunman and taking him aside before he starts shooting will defuse SOME situations. Very rarely. Compare it to suicide; talking down someone who is suicidal SOMETIMES works, but on the other end of the spectrum you have people you have to forcible stop from killing themselves. You have to yank them off the ledge, or overwhelm them with force. And everyday we fail to stop many, many people from killing themselves. Just like suicide, shooting up a public area is a premeditated, and deliberate action of someone who feels as if society has failed them, or they're too mentally disturbed to be helped.

If we detect the warning signs we might be able to talk them down. And while they are hesitating moments before pulling out the guns to start off their attack we might have the opportunity to talk them down; but once they've decided they are going to do what they are going to do the most we can do to stop it is to use deadly force.

An unarmed guard MIGHT be able to diffuse a horrible situation, but it's not foolproof and that unarmed guard will PROBABLY just end up being the first victim.
#13 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because people are all going to trained to recognize those things right? There will always just happen to be a cop around. And Bags and other such things couldn't hide a large gun. And he's totes gonna wait for the cops to arrive after pulling hiss gun and not shoot immediately. Yeah he'll TOTALLY wait the fifteen minutes for the authorities to show up.
User avatar #14 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You know privatized security companies exist right? Say the no-gun zone in question is a mall, then that mall hires a security company to take care of the surveillance, alarms and guards. That's how stuff works.
#15 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because I'm sure they have enough man power and resources to police 300 million people.
User avatar #16 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You don't have 300 million shoppers in a mall at a time.
#17 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Go to mall in a big city. It may not be 300 million, but it's a whole lot more than any security force is going to be able to handle.
User avatar #18 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Look, you won't get over a 10 thousand in a mall even during a large convention. Even a large mall is lucky to get that many in a day. At most you'll have one or two thousand shoppers in a huge mall during the busy hours. And in the same mall you'll have maybe 150-200 cameras divided over several security sectors. With probably 5-10 guards assigned to each sector.
Should the entire mall riot at once, then no you won't have enough guards, but you have more than enough guards and equipment to keep surveillance of everyone and take care of any troublemakers.
#41 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* So being able to perfectly survail everyone and able to detect even the most inconspicuous of criminals is why shoplifting is no longer a major problem. The NASP doesn't say there's 27 million shoplifters in the US... we caught them all *end sarcasm*

The fact is, if major corporations could actually implement a system as efficient as you are describing in a manner that isn't counter productive to profit then they would have already. They haven't; because it's too expensive and impractical. Having a security force so strong that you can literally see a guard everywhere you look would drive off customers (no one likes being watched, even if it's for their own good).
#19 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
"trouble makers". I think one guy with a fully automatic rifle constitutes more than that. And by the time officers show up, he's out of ammo, and either surrendering, or committing suicide.
User avatar #20 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door with 2 or 3 handguns pointed at his face immediately, courtesy of the security guards. He would not have time to cause trouble since it's standard procedure to pay extra attention to the entrances.
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
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#9 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
If people want guns, they'll get guns. And it's as simple as concealing a weapon. A backpack, a trench coat, suitcases, hell, even a long shirt or skirt can hide a weapon. How do you propose that you search every individual every time they go anywhere public?
User avatar #26 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Military-grade submachineguns are chambered with rifle rounds. You'll have to go deep, deep into the black market to find anything that doesn't use pistol rounds.
And no, they don't have to be super guards, they just have to have enough training not to fuck up. Aim for the chest, one round should be enough to stop anyone that isn't used to combat. If he's firing at civilians, don't shout to grab his attention, just shoot the fucker. Chances are they'll never take a single bullet unless someone decides to target them first.
And most security companies in employ of big customers are fucking massive, like Securitas.
User avatar #84 - kilotech (01/23/2015) [-]
a submachine gun by definition uses pistol rounds
User avatar #85 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
The P90 disagrees.
User avatar #86 - kilotech (01/23/2015) [-]
a submachine gun is any weapon chambered in pistol rounds capable of using fully automatic or burst fire, if it's semi auto it's not an SMG, it's a pistol, if it's using rifle rounds it's not an SMG, it's a rifle. if you can't get basic concepts of firearms you shouldn't be talking about them
#87 - TheMather (01/24/2015) [-]
The FN P90 is an SMG (specifically of the PDW subtype), but it fires 5.7x28mm rounds (picture related).
#34 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Do you even do any research? What do you think hunting rifles and the AR-15 use? The Ak47 generally uses 7.62x39 rounds and I can have 500 of them mailed to my house within a few days for $100, or 22 cents per round, which is cheaper than 9mm ammo.

California is also one of, if not the only, state with a specific ban on 50 caliber rifles. THE ONLY STATE WITH A BAN. That means you can buy a 50 caliber rifle LEGALLY in most other states. You don't get more 'military-grade high powered' than a 50 caliber.

What is banned are the high penetration explosive rounds that can pierce 6 feet of concrete and brick and then set off an explosive after exiting the other side of the wall.
User avatar #72 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Did you somehow completely miss the word submachinegun?
#27 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Lol let me tell you about securitas. They worked on my college campus. It was a gun free zone. Guess what? That applied to them too. They weren't legally allowed to have a firearm on them while on school grounds. So tell me more about companies like Securitas, because they have to obey those rules too. And I'm not concerned with one person. A three man team like what happened in France is what I am worried about. Get a group of just a few criminals together and they become an effective force. Doesn't take much to get into the military grade weapons. It's just as easy to get illegal military weapons as it is to get civ weapons.
User avatar #28 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
They had to obey it because the regulations were above them. They weren't in charge of security there, just tasked with enforcing it. When they're in charge, they make the rules.
And random shooters don't work in teams. They attacked Charlie Hebdo in a team because that was a targeted attack, they weren't after random civilians.
Russian weapons are easy to obtain, Chinese weapons are easy to obtain, Israeli, American, Swiss, German and Belgian weapons are not. And the former two are way behind, they are the ones that chamber pistol rounds.
#38 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* Yeah... random shooters don't work in teams or have any training.

Yeah... the Columbine shooters, plural, were two uncooperative individuals with completely separate agendas who happened to plan things ahead, like planting a bomb miles away to distract the police, were completely separate from one another and didn't work together in any effective way. *end sarcasm*
User avatar #10 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You don't. You see a weapon; you throw them out or detain them and alert the police depending on what level of jurisdiction you have.
This adds a level of security because it gives you a chance to stop them before they hurt anyone. To allow the showing of intent in favor of waiting for an attempt is just stupid.
#11 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Did you not even read the concealed weapon part? Concealing a gun is super easy. One big jacket during the winter, a gym bag when going on trips, literally anything can be used to hide a weapon.
User avatar #12 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yes, and guess what? You have to pull the weapon out of hiding before you can use it. Security guard see someone looking around shiftily while reaching into their jacket/bag? Tap them on the shoulder and bring them aside.
Also concealment is not always perfect; see a holster on the inside of someone's jacket? Stop them.

It won't catch everyone, but it will catch some, and it'll prevent anyone from bringing large weapons. And that is better than catching none.
#35 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The moment that guard taps them on the shoulder is when the blood bath will begin. You are very naive.

PERHAPS spotting a gun on a gunman and taking him aside before he starts shooting will defuse SOME situations. Very rarely. Compare it to suicide; talking down someone who is suicidal SOMETIMES works, but on the other end of the spectrum you have people you have to forcible stop from killing themselves. You have to yank them off the ledge, or overwhelm them with force. And everyday we fail to stop many, many people from killing themselves. Just like suicide, shooting up a public area is a premeditated, and deliberate action of someone who feels as if society has failed them, or they're too mentally disturbed to be helped.

If we detect the warning signs we might be able to talk them down. And while they are hesitating moments before pulling out the guns to start off their attack we might have the opportunity to talk them down; but once they've decided they are going to do what they are going to do the most we can do to stop it is to use deadly force.

An unarmed guard MIGHT be able to diffuse a horrible situation, but it's not foolproof and that unarmed guard will PROBABLY just end up being the first victim.
#13 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because people are all going to trained to recognize those things right? There will always just happen to be a cop around. And Bags and other such things couldn't hide a large gun. And he's totes gonna wait for the cops to arrive after pulling hiss gun and not shoot immediately. Yeah he'll TOTALLY wait the fifteen minutes for the authorities to show up.
User avatar #14 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You know privatized security companies exist right? Say the no-gun zone in question is a mall, then that mall hires a security company to take care of the surveillance, alarms and guards. That's how stuff works.
#15 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah because I'm sure they have enough man power and resources to police 300 million people.
User avatar #16 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
You don't have 300 million shoppers in a mall at a time.
#17 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Go to mall in a big city. It may not be 300 million, but it's a whole lot more than any security force is going to be able to handle.
User avatar #18 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Look, you won't get over a 10 thousand in a mall even during a large convention. Even a large mall is lucky to get that many in a day. At most you'll have one or two thousand shoppers in a huge mall during the busy hours. And in the same mall you'll have maybe 150-200 cameras divided over several security sectors. With probably 5-10 guards assigned to each sector.
Should the entire mall riot at once, then no you won't have enough guards, but you have more than enough guards and equipment to keep surveillance of everyone and take care of any troublemakers.
#41 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
*sarcasm* So being able to perfectly survail everyone and able to detect even the most inconspicuous of criminals is why shoplifting is no longer a major problem. The NASP doesn't say there's 27 million shoplifters in the US... we caught them all *end sarcasm*

The fact is, if major corporations could actually implement a system as efficient as you are describing in a manner that isn't counter productive to profit then they would have already. They haven't; because it's too expensive and impractical. Having a security force so strong that you can literally see a guard everywhere you look would drive off customers (no one likes being watched, even if it's for their own good).
#19 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
"trouble makers". I think one guy with a fully automatic rifle constitutes more than that. And by the time officers show up, he's out of ammo, and either surrendering, or committing suicide.
User avatar #20 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
That guy with the full auto rifle would be met at the door with 2 or 3 handguns pointed at his face immediately, courtesy of the security guards. He would not have time to cause trouble since it's standard procedure to pay extra attention to the entrances.
#21 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Again, hide it. Takes two minutes to thing of ten ways to hide it. Take it past security, find a place where guards aren't in the immediate area and boom.
User avatar #22 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Yeah. Walk in with a large bag or a bulky duster coat. Sure the camera operators won't keep a close eye on you because that's not suspicious at all, right?
He'll walk to a remote area, pull out the gun and the first people he'll see are a squad of guards wearing bullet-proof armor after being alerted by a camera operator.
#23 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Doesn't have to be bulky. Most submachine guns can be easily concealed under a light jacket or hoodie. And they get more compact with every iteration. Could hide one in a purse. And you're assuming that a guy, who's probably bored out of his head, to be watching every camera at the same time, and miss nothing. Even watching two different cameras is difficult, especially with hundreds of people moving in and out of view. It gives me a headache just thinking about the strain.
User avatar #24 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
>Fully automatic rifle
>Submachine gun

Yes, a submachine gun is more of a threat than a pistol. With one might actually be able to kill a few people before a guard shoots him dead.

And guess what, camera operators tend to be trained for their job, and if they notice anyone suspicious, they'll pay attention to where they are at any given time in case they try something funny.
#130 - ARRRGGGG (01/24/2015) [-]
Lol dude do you know what you're talking about? Seriously, do you have any expertise on this subject? Because I've worked security before and I can safely say that it is nowhere near as good as you think it is. 5-10 guards PER SECTOR in a MALL? You won't even get 5 guards period. There's like 2-3 walking around and that's it. There will be a few people watching the cameras. Not an entire crew like you think. And they typically aren't highly paid or highly trained either. They aren't viewing through HD monitors and the cameras aren't amazing quality either. The result is you'd need to enter the mall guns blazing for them to really notice anything.

My next point is you also highly overrate a typical security personnel. They aren't highly paid or motivated (who would risk their life to keep a low paying job that they likely don't care much about?) and have at best a minimal understanding of how to handle a situation like a mass shooting. Their training probably ends there with the instructions "call the cops" because I know mine did. A security guard is also not always armed and even if they were, they would have minimal training with their firearm unless they go shooting on their free time. You're gonna expect that guy to instantly whip out his pistol and plant some shots in a guy's chest? No, because he's not some rock hard killer. Honestly, the best outcome for that scenario would be the guard getting the fuck out of there and getting the police.

Lastly, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEARCH EVERY PERSON IN A MALL??? Hell, even just a cursory glance over every patron entering would take several times more personnel than the security staff actually has (and that's without searching anyone). And if you only had 2 seconds to look me over then I guarantee you I could hide a small weapon with just a hoodie and jeans. Disneyland only has one entrance and yet they need 8-10 people in order to do a quick 5 second search of everyone's bags (not including their person). Your typical mall has dozens of entrances.
#44 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
Pictured is the FMG9, a folding submachine gun... it can fit in a tablet or laptop bag...

Concealing weapons is not something new that people suck at, and we're getting better at it with each passing day.
#36 - theXsjados (01/23/2015) [-]
The 'suspicious' man with a duffle bag that is the hypothetical perpetrator of this hypothetical mall shooting is a very nondescript sounding person.

The picture is a Thompson, aka the Tommy Gun, concealed inside of a violin case. The frames of the newer rifles, pistols, and submachine guns of today are thin enough to hide in a briefcase. Are your hypothetical, infallible, super guards going to stop individuals wearing business clothes and search their suitcases?

If someone put on a suit they bought from GoodWill for $5 and slipped a .45 into a briefcase with 4 or 5 magazines of ammo they could easily get into your super-mall-cop mall undetected.
#25 - blakeserene (01/23/2015) [-]
Submachine guns today are chambered with rifle grade rounds. The whole point of submachine guns to have the firepower of a rifle compacted to the size of a pistol frame. And I still think your five to ten highly trained, well equipped, "super guards" are something more akin to military police than guards. Bullet proof ARMOR? Maybe a vest. And you think the guards will have anything more than pistols? And they might have a second clip if things go well. Plus five to ten PER SECTOR? Even if we're talking just a medium sized mall, that could easily be a hundred guards. You'd need to be a super wealthy organization to be providing that kind of salary on top of all this equipment and training they are getting.

And even if ALL of this is possible, you basically have a standing military sized group acting as "guards". You don't think that's a bit extreme? Because to me, that sounds like a totalitarian military regime.
#19 - And the answer to that is rape.  [+] (1 new reply) 01/23/2015 on Love?! 0
#20 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
But.... that would be a crime.
#19 - I know practically every square meter of it the whole thing. A… 01/23/2015 on Can anyone relate? 0
#17 - Because they both found that the other was the wrong gender. …  [+] (3 new replies) 01/23/2015 on Love?! +1
#18 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
Yes, and they got that far but discovered the truth, even if one of them was the gender they pretend to be they would figure out the other weren't and would most likely not wanna sleep with them.

Hey, edgeworthy look at me I'm almost like an investigation master like you.
User avatar #19 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
And the answer to that is rape.
#20 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
But.... that would be a crime.
#15 - By that time it would've been too late.  [+] (5 new replies) 01/23/2015 on Love?! +1
#16 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
But..... doesn't what happen in this very comic disprove that?
They both figured out the truth and got no sexy times.
User avatar #17 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Because they both found that the other was the wrong gender.
The guy wanted to trick a guy into sleeping with him, the girl wanted to trick a girl into sleeping with her.
#18 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
Yes, and they got that far but discovered the truth, even if one of them was the gender they pretend to be they would figure out the other weren't and would most likely not wanna sleep with them.

Hey, edgeworthy look at me I'm almost like an investigation master like you.
User avatar #19 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
And the answer to that is rape.
#20 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
But.... that would be a crime.
#13 - They're both gay and trying to trick the other.  [+] (7 new replies) 01/23/2015 on Love?! +1
#14 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
Hmmm, seems to make sense, but wouldn't they know that the other one would find out eventually?
User avatar #15 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
By that time it would've been too late.
#16 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
But..... doesn't what happen in this very comic disprove that?
They both figured out the truth and got no sexy times.
User avatar #17 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
Because they both found that the other was the wrong gender.
The guy wanted to trick a guy into sleeping with him, the girl wanted to trick a girl into sleeping with her.
#18 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
Yes, and they got that far but discovered the truth, even if one of them was the gender they pretend to be they would figure out the other weren't and would most likely not wanna sleep with them.

Hey, edgeworthy look at me I'm almost like an investigation master like you.
User avatar #19 - TheMather (01/23/2015) [-]
And the answer to that is rape.
#20 - dabutz (01/23/2015) [-]
But.... that would be a crime.
#39 - Koe to Oshigoto I believe. 01/23/2015 on Popsicles. +1
#38 - To Love-Ru. 01/23/2015 on Popsicles. 0
#148 - Spend all of the money on multiple server-grade computers set … 01/23/2015 on May i have your attention... 0
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User avatar #91 - hotpost ONLINE (11/27/2014) [-]
u suxk
User avatar #92 to #91 - TheMather ONLINE (11/27/2014) [-]
no u
#89 - Valid (11/21/2014) [-]
what is themather with you
User avatar #90 to #89 - TheMather ONLINE (11/21/2014) [-]
Everything.
User avatar #80 - kninee ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Still playing RS?
User avatar #81 to #80 - TheMather ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Yup. Just got my quest cape a few days ago.
User avatar #82 to #81 - kninee ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Add me: Tsurara
User avatar #83 to #82 - TheMather ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Done.
By the looks of it, you're not in a clan. Might I suggest applying to Anime Lobby? That's the clan I'm in, lawuser was in there too for a while until he gave up on EOC. It's a lot less weeaboo than you'd expect of a Runescape anime clan, it does monthly events and has a tier-5 citadel.
User avatar #84 to #83 - kninee ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Yeah, sure. I was in /rsg/ until a couple of minutes ago. I'll apply when I finish mining granite.
User avatar #87 to #86 - kninee ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
done
User avatar #88 to #87 - TheMather ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Now just mention it in the chat and the staff will review it (basically just a formality), then you're in.
User avatar #85 to #84 - TheMather ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Sweet.
User avatar #69 - yibdiy ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
"lordsaten requires that you be a friend to view this profile."
What's the mention about?
User avatar #70 to #69 - TheMather ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
"users you'd like to eat breakfast with/meet IRL"
User avatar #79 to #70 - tormain ONLINE (10/11/2014) [-]
Thanks man, but I'm also not part of the social board.
User avatar #72 to #70 - zomaru (09/14/2014) [-]
Now I'm even more curious as to how I of all people was mentioned.
User avatar #73 to #72 - TheMather ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
Well, you're a cool guy and we share a taste for Shana clones. That's all it takes for me to like you.
User avatar #74 to #73 - yibdiy ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
Oh, and why me then?
I mean, I hate tsundere, I didn't enjoy your favorite anime much and I'm not really a fan of romcoms. We have pretty different tastes, I'd say.
One thing we most certainly do share, though, is liking Misaka.
User avatar #75 to #74 - TheMather ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
It's not like Shana clones and romcoms are all I like. I prefer tomboys over Shana clones and romance-heavy action stories over romcoms.
Misaka is my overall favorite character in any medium, and unlike so many of the others who like her you don't just dismiss Index as inferior to Railgun. And to rationally be able to explain the things you don't like about it, of course that makes you a swell dude in my book.

Also your contribution to the recommendation board. The fact that you're willing to help other people like that is just awesome.
User avatar #76 to #75 - yibdiy ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
I see
Thanks, man. It's probably because I like having discussions and you are great for this, I like talking to you. You aren't self-entitled elitist little **** and behave like a well-behaved person, I like that aspect of you very much. Something I thought was going to happen on /anime/... I thought wrong (for the most part, anyway).

Well, I remember how clueless I was back then when I started, so I'd like to help others to get into the hobby that I enjoy so much and is quite a big part of my life now.

Oh boy, that sounds so gay, but you understand, right?

Also saten added me to friends, so I can now go to Shin, great. Too bad I'll just lurk a lot to learn how things work over there before actually posting anything.
User avatar #77 to #76 - TheMather ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
Thanks. I often worry that how stubborn I am with my opinions makes me sound like a douche in prolonged discussions, so hearing you say that really means a lot to me.

And I decided to make the rec board for a similar reason. I quickly gained momentum when I started out, thanks to two of the guys I hang out with every day for the first year having years of experience watching anime, but as I ran out of obvious stuff to watch, I became more and more reliant on /anime/ for finding new ones. So last summer while the rec threads were rolling in like crazy, and due to the large disparity between people that were trying to help them out and people that were just bitching about it, I used that as an excuse to make a place where people that are having trouble finding stuff, like I was, could get help.
User avatar #78 to #77 - yibdiy ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
Nah, you are completely fine, you just stand by your convictions and opinions but without being an asshole about it and with rational explanations.

Yeah, it's great place for people to get recs from those, who are well-versed (unlike most of the internet) in anime/manga without being shat on (like they would be on /anime/ or /a/). It's also good when you'd like to watch/read something specific.
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User avatar #68 - zomaru (09/14/2014) [-]
Psst. You mentioned me.
User avatar #66 - tanabata ONLINE (07/20/2014) [-]
Where did all the good romance anime go?
User avatar #67 to #66 - TheMather ONLINE (07/20/2014) [-]
It promptly ****** off when summer started.
Well, most of it did. There's still Glasslip, Jinsei (presumably), Majimoji Rurumo (as annoying as the fact that it's ironic comedy is), Rail Wars and Rokujyoma no Shinryakusha. Plus Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei (goddamn that's hard to spell while drunk) leftover from last season.
#64 - tanabata ONLINE (06/20/2014) [-]
Flawless Victory!
#54 - flybager (05/31/2014) [-]
Can I trade with you now?
Can I trade with you now?
User avatar #56 to #54 - TheMather ONLINE (05/31/2014) [-]
Ah, **** , sorry. It says I need to have had Steam Guard enabled for 15 days to trade. I enabled it now but I can't do anything about the wait.
#59 to #56 - flybager (05/31/2014) [-]
Oh, that's alright, there's no real hurry behind it.

Only reason why I've been pushing you is that I'm afraid I'm going to forget I bothered you for it.

So how's you anyways? we never really chit-chat'd after the Xmad random gifter we did
User avatar #61 to #59 - TheMather ONLINE (05/31/2014) [-]
I'm good. I've just been enjoying life with anime and binge drinking while hoping not to fail too many exams.
User avatar #55 to #54 - TheMather ONLINE (05/31/2014) [-]
Yeah, sorry. Volume was a bit screwed up and I was ingame both of the times you tried to contact me, so I didn't see your messages until hours later.
#57 to #55 - flybager (05/31/2014) [-]
It's telling me I can't send a trade request, my guess because you're on a mobile.

User avatar #58 to #57 - TheMather ONLINE (05/31/2014) [-]
Nah, mobile is just in addition to to the computer, plus I think the mobile app lets you trade as well.
User avatar #60 to #58 - flybager (05/31/2014) [-]
Oh, well, we'll see in 15 days, then?
User avatar #62 to #60 - TheMather ONLINE (05/31/2014) [-]
Sure.
#29 - bababadsheep ONLINE (05/15/2014) [-]
docs.google.com/document/d/1Ur6mqoQuOBskk-N3lJarVamVFMvx1vfQ3zmo80AdIPU/edit?usp=sharing

Review this please. Check for spelling mistakes, and if there is anything I missed or that you think I should add.
#47 to #46 - bababadsheep ONLINE (05/20/2014) [-]
Go away Josh, nobody likes you. And your in my shop this time, skit skit or I'll cut you on my edge.
User avatar #48 to #47 - joshlol (05/20/2014) [-]
sorry m8 I just love to post that at every chance I get
User avatar #49 to #48 - bababadsheep ONLINE (05/20/2014) [-]
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User avatar #30 to #29 - TheMather ONLINE (05/15/2014) [-]
Woo. I am the most informed!

Anyways, it's romaji, not romanji.
Also didn't know asking for source/opinions was frowned on, and you might want to add "outside of the dedicated recommendation board" to the part about requests.
User avatar #31 to #30 - bababadsheep ONLINE (05/15/2014) [-]
Updated what you commented on. Should I add some notes on VNs, or not bother? Also, trying to decide what format I want to put this in. Structure it as an image, make it a post, I don't know. Thoughts?
User avatar #24 - flybager (12/18/2013) [-]
Hi there.

Holy crap did I truly find someone who knew hansjsand?
User avatar #25 to #24 - TheMather ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
Yo.

I don't know him per se, but we've talked before and gotten along.
User avatar #26 to #25 - flybager (12/18/2013) [-]
How're things?

He was the first person I met and became friends with on funnyjunk, and one of my best friends here.

'bout a year ago he finished college and went to work, and nowadays doesn't come on funnyjunk anymore at all due to no time.
Last time he was to be considered 'active' was back when the pony-fandom first erupted here, on funnyjunk. (to give you a refference)
Assuming you remember that

I'm just glad to have found a trace of him on funnyjunk itself.
#19 - zameckis (11/23/2013) [-]
good day, sir themather.
User avatar #20 to #19 - TheMather ONLINE (11/23/2013) [-]
Uhm, hello?
User avatar #21 to #20 - zameckis (11/23/2013) [-]
how's the day treating you?
User avatar #22 to #21 - TheMather ONLINE (11/23/2013) [-]
Good, but it'd be hard for it to treat me badly since I started it with vodka.

You?
#23 to #22 - zameckis (11/23/2013) [-]
apologize for pending reply, something pop up.   
   
ah i see, what a good start eh.   
as for myself, my day seems quite dandy so far, thanks for asking.
apologize for pending reply, something pop up.

ah i see, what a good start eh.
as for myself, my day seems quite dandy so far, thanks for asking.
#17 - anonymousbrony (08/14/2013) [-]
Well I posted it.   
   
I hope you realize what is most likely going to happen is that we'll get a BUNCH of people going to the anime board with 						********					 rec thread requests. That or it will just get thumbed down. Either way, I lose something. Enjoy the rest of your day friend.   
www.funnyjunk.com/channel/animemanga/Recommendations+Board/qfjtGds
Well I posted it.

I hope you realize what is most likely going to happen is that we'll get a BUNCH of people going to the anime board with ******** rec thread requests. That or it will just get thumbed down. Either way, I lose something. Enjoy the rest of your day friend.
www.funnyjunk.com/channel/animemanga/Recommendations+Board/qfjtGds
User avatar #13 - anonymousbrony (08/14/2013) [-]
So I finally started making the post.

I'm just doing something simple, basically just a text post. Anything you want me to say, I'm not very literate when it comes to these things. I figured I would just say something along the lines of this...

"To the users of FJ
The /anime/ board community has made a "Recommendations Board" for any to visit where they can ask for what ever type of anime they want. We have many images and links already up that would take days to complete, and you can create threads if you wish for a specific anime. Many of the /anime/ regulars are posting there and keeping an eye on the board so you will get the replies you wish for. If anyone has posted a rec thread before on the /anime/ board, do you recall the crappy anime, shota, and hate you received for doing so? With the creation of the Rec Thread we ask you to please stop coming to the /anime/ board asking for recommendations, we receive multiple of these threads a day and would like them to stop."

I didn't spend much time on it so if you want me to add anything I don't mind.
User avatar #15 to #13 - TheMather ONLINE (08/14/2013) [-]
Sounds perfect to me.
User avatar #16 to #15 - anonymousbrony (08/14/2013) [-]
Well, I'll put the text in the image.

I'm going to see if the anime board likes it or not.
I just hope it's not so bad I get banned.
User avatar #14 to #13 - anonymousbrony (08/14/2013) [-]
Well, it's going to be an image though.
#9 - anonymous (08/04/2013) [-]
ur rong
User avatar #10 to #9 - TheMather ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
I don't think I'll trust someone who lacks the ability to follow even a single gramatical or conversational rule to judge the correctness of any statement I've made.
And by the way, you're a coward.
#11 to #10 - anonymous (08/04/2013) [-]
ur still rong ya fagget
User avatar #12 to #11 - TheMather ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
You yet again fail to convince me you've got an IQ above even a single multiple of ten. Especially because you apparently fail to realize that posting on a profile means you can be IP blocked, which you just were.
User avatar #3 - lawuser ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
You wouldn't happen to play RuneScape, would you?
User avatar #4 to #3 - TheMather ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
I do.
I'm guessing you maybe recognize my name from a clan event that took place yesterday?
User avatar #5 to #4 - lawuser ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
Not exactly, I was just there sometime last week and I recognixed your name is all. I asked if it was you but you never answered.
User avatar #6 to #5 - TheMather ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
Must've been a really bad timing. I usually respond when people talk to me, and if you mentioned my name that should have caught my attention right away.
What's your username? Mine's The Mather1 as you know.
User avatar #7 to #6 - lawuser ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
The Lawuser. I joined the clan some weeks ago although I mostly play 07 at the time being.
User avatar #8 to #7 - TheMather ONLINE (05/06/2013) [-]
I only joined about 5 weeks ago myself. I play the current version but I'm not really progressing that fast since I can't bear to grind. I've had the account since 2006, but I've only got a total level of 1666.
#1 - hansjsand (05/19/2011) [-]
Hello! wazzup?

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