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#276 - it's called worshipping the gaps, the fallacy of "if scie…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/08/2012 on Science or Religion +1
User avatar #281 - sketchE (08/08/2012) [-]
im just open to the possibility still. theres always going to be a "well what caused that" in my mind
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#493 - 1. You have two choices in this case then -etiher I am rig… 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... 0
#492 - WHAT? This isnt pascals wager, not even at all. Pascals wa…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... 0
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User avatar #492 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
WHAT? This isnt pascals wager, not even at all.
Pascals wager is stating that you SHOULD believe in God because it is safer, I'm saying that it is important to know whether we are going to hell or not because it would be nice to know that tidbit of information or find some proof, because if there was some proof, it wouldnt be a matter of "believing" it would be a matter of knowing, thus rendering pascal's wager invalid.

TL:DR This is not pascal's wager and you should feel bad.
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#1250 - I am especially angry that you called out my deep angry atheis… 07/06/2012 on Arguing with a Christian 0
#339 - 1) God DID write the bible, just indirectly, he used the vario…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... 0
User avatar #348 - alfredtheweak (07/06/2012) [-]
(Damn you for making me log in to reply to your stupidity)
1. You're an idiot. Inspiration is not dictation.
2. See above.
3. Prove it.
4. Little to say? The Gospels ARE his words...
5. Read the anon's whole comment before replying to it.

Jesus does address the fact that he has changed some teachings from the Old Testament. He says that the Jews' hearts were made of stone, so they could not receive the full law. And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy.
User avatar #493 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1. You have two choices in this case then
-etiher I am right
-or the writers of the bible can go wrong, and if they are, who is anyone to decide how god REALLY wanted it? How the hell do you know that they're even right? You cant be picky, you cant be choosy. The authors either have the word of god here or they dont, because they second they dont you can start to second guess the whole fucking book.

2. covered

3. "And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy"

4. all of the sudden these words are flawless and are the words of jesus, youre selectively reading the bible again.

5. fine ill use another counterargument IF THE BIBLE IS EDITED, WHY FOLLOW IT? You're supposed to follow the word of god, how do you decide where that is in the mess of edits?
#335 - It's very vague, all i can tell you is that god someone manipu… 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... 0
#315 - you misunderstand then God DID write the bible, just …  [+] (2 new replies) 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... 0
User avatar #328 - rodthegodx (07/06/2012) [-]
what dictates a human vessel? how is this person chosen? again i do not see eye to eye with many of the writings in the bible. were the people chosen by God pure themselves? even today we are discovering new things in our religions that we never even heard of. im asking to bring clarity to help me see your point

i dont use chrome but i did just download it so i will keep that in mind.
User avatar #335 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
It's very vague, all i can tell you is that god someone manipulated each author into writing these pieces (or so the story goes) which make it even more suspicious.
#308 - A) Not true, you cant pick and choose what bible verses to fol…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... 0
#326 - devout feminist (07/06/2012) [-]
Christianity is the teaching of Christ. His teachings is the only thing that must be followed. You can (but shouldn't) ignore the Old Testament completely. There are several factors you should need to count.

1. Even though the Bible is supposed to be the word of God, it is written by man.
2. The teachings of the Bible is just that, teachings.
3. The Bible has been edited several times (damn the Catholic Church).
4. Everything in the Bible should be interpreted with emphasis on what Jesus said.
5. You can't interpret every part of the Bible, as things like "You must believe in Jesus to get to Heaven" was edited in later to scare people into the religion.
User avatar #339 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1) God DID write the bible, just indirectly, he used the various authors of the bible to create it for him, like a human vessel. The story goes that he literally "Dictated" what to write.

2) It's a rulebook, God wrote it this way, through man, his words are flawless, our interpretation is what matters, but with the verses ive pointed out i see no toher way to interpret it.

3) yes and no, Verses i've pointed out have not.

4) Jesus actually has very little to say (again see above verses) considering his importance, the fact that he skipped a whole book written by his father is a bit frustrating.

5) You can, it's in english, if you couldnt, why the hell would you put it in? Even parts "added in" can be read and interpreted.
User avatar #348 - alfredtheweak (07/06/2012) [-]
(Damn you for making me log in to reply to your stupidity)
1. You're an idiot. Inspiration is not dictation.
2. See above.
3. Prove it.
4. Little to say? The Gospels ARE his words...
5. Read the anon's whole comment before replying to it.

Jesus does address the fact that he has changed some teachings from the Old Testament. He says that the Jews' hearts were made of stone, so they could not receive the full law. And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy.
User avatar #493 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1. You have two choices in this case then
-etiher I am right
-or the writers of the bible can go wrong, and if they are, who is anyone to decide how god REALLY wanted it? How the hell do you know that they're even right? You cant be picky, you cant be choosy. The authors either have the word of god here or they dont, because they second they dont you can start to second guess the whole fucking book.

2. covered

3. "And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy"

4. all of the sudden these words are flawless and are the words of jesus, youre selectively reading the bible again.

5. fine ill use another counterargument IF THE BIBLE IS EDITED, WHY FOLLOW IT? You're supposed to follow the word of god, how do you decide where that is in the mess of edits?
#290 - Leviticus 18:22 New International Version (©1984) &qu…  [+] (10 new replies) 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... -2
#312 - rodthegodx (07/06/2012) [-]
Be aware that god (if he does exist) did not write the bible. people did. i had a conversation with one of my friends about this. i agree that there are many things in the bible that are outlandish to many (as well as myself). christian catholic but i respect other forms of religion as well as athiesm (spelling?). im just asking to think about it. overtime, im sure that many things in the bible were changed just because people believed things were crazy to themselves, without regard to entire the population.
User avatar #315 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
you misunderstand then

God DID write the bible, just indirectly, he used the various authors of the bible to create it for him, like a human vessel. The story goes that he literally "Dictated" what to write.

Protip: Chrome has built in spellcheck
User avatar #328 - rodthegodx (07/06/2012) [-]
what dictates a human vessel? how is this person chosen? again i do not see eye to eye with many of the writings in the bible. were the people chosen by God pure themselves? even today we are discovering new things in our religions that we never even heard of. im asking to bring clarity to help me see your point

i dont use chrome but i did just download it so i will keep that in mind.
User avatar #335 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
It's very vague, all i can tell you is that god someone manipulated each author into writing these pieces (or so the story goes) which make it even more suspicious.
#299 - devout feminist (07/06/2012) [-]
That's from the OT. Jesus died so the old testament would be nothing more than guide lines. I'm an Atheist, but everyone should know that Christianity isn't bound by the OT. You should look into Jesus' teachings, there are some good stuff there.
User avatar #308 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
A) Not true, you cant pick and choose what bible verses to follow this is God's word, do you think he wrote it down wrong? or fucked up somewhere? No he didnt, because if he did, then this could be applied to the entire book, then the OT would mean nothing. If read properly, (picking and choosing verses) Harry Potter could be taken as fact.

B) Here's from the new testament:

1 Timothy 2:12
New International Version (NIV)
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[a] she must be quiet.
#326 - devout feminist (07/06/2012) [-]
Christianity is the teaching of Christ. His teachings is the only thing that must be followed. You can (but shouldn't) ignore the Old Testament completely. There are several factors you should need to count.

1. Even though the Bible is supposed to be the word of God, it is written by man.
2. The teachings of the Bible is just that, teachings.
3. The Bible has been edited several times (damn the Catholic Church).
4. Everything in the Bible should be interpreted with emphasis on what Jesus said.
5. You can't interpret every part of the Bible, as things like "You must believe in Jesus to get to Heaven" was edited in later to scare people into the religion.
User avatar #339 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1) God DID write the bible, just indirectly, he used the various authors of the bible to create it for him, like a human vessel. The story goes that he literally "Dictated" what to write.

2) It's a rulebook, God wrote it this way, through man, his words are flawless, our interpretation is what matters, but with the verses ive pointed out i see no toher way to interpret it.

3) yes and no, Verses i've pointed out have not.

4) Jesus actually has very little to say (again see above verses) considering his importance, the fact that he skipped a whole book written by his father is a bit frustrating.

5) You can, it's in english, if you couldnt, why the hell would you put it in? Even parts "added in" can be read and interpreted.
User avatar #348 - alfredtheweak (07/06/2012) [-]
(Damn you for making me log in to reply to your stupidity)
1. You're an idiot. Inspiration is not dictation.
2. See above.
3. Prove it.
4. Little to say? The Gospels ARE his words...
5. Read the anon's whole comment before replying to it.

Jesus does address the fact that he has changed some teachings from the Old Testament. He says that the Jews' hearts were made of stone, so they could not receive the full law. And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy.
User avatar #493 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1. You have two choices in this case then
-etiher I am right
-or the writers of the bible can go wrong, and if they are, who is anyone to decide how god REALLY wanted it? How the hell do you know that they're even right? You cant be picky, you cant be choosy. The authors either have the word of god here or they dont, because they second they dont you can start to second guess the whole fucking book.

2. covered

3. "And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy"

4. all of the sudden these words are flawless and are the words of jesus, youre selectively reading the bible again.

5. fine ill use another counterargument IF THE BIBLE IS EDITED, WHY FOLLOW IT? You're supposed to follow the word of god, how do you decide where that is in the mess of edits?
#286 - Deuteronomy Chapter 22 13 If a man takes a wife and, …  [+] (11 new replies) 07/06/2012 on Fucking Catholics Fucking... -1
User avatar #290 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
Leviticus 18:22
New International Version (©1984)
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Here we go again. People should be able to be themselves without having to burn in hell for it.

If this is God's word, god is a fucking dick.
#312 - rodthegodx (07/06/2012) [-]
Be aware that god (if he does exist) did not write the bible. people did. i had a conversation with one of my friends about this. i agree that there are many things in the bible that are outlandish to many (as well as myself). christian catholic but i respect other forms of religion as well as athiesm (spelling?). im just asking to think about it. overtime, im sure that many things in the bible were changed just because people believed things were crazy to themselves, without regard to entire the population.
User avatar #315 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
you misunderstand then

God DID write the bible, just indirectly, he used the various authors of the bible to create it for him, like a human vessel. The story goes that he literally "Dictated" what to write.

Protip: Chrome has built in spellcheck
User avatar #328 - rodthegodx (07/06/2012) [-]
what dictates a human vessel? how is this person chosen? again i do not see eye to eye with many of the writings in the bible. were the people chosen by God pure themselves? even today we are discovering new things in our religions that we never even heard of. im asking to bring clarity to help me see your point

i dont use chrome but i did just download it so i will keep that in mind.
User avatar #335 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
It's very vague, all i can tell you is that god someone manipulated each author into writing these pieces (or so the story goes) which make it even more suspicious.
#299 - devout feminist (07/06/2012) [-]
That's from the OT. Jesus died so the old testament would be nothing more than guide lines. I'm an Atheist, but everyone should know that Christianity isn't bound by the OT. You should look into Jesus' teachings, there are some good stuff there.
User avatar #308 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
A) Not true, you cant pick and choose what bible verses to follow this is God's word, do you think he wrote it down wrong? or fucked up somewhere? No he didnt, because if he did, then this could be applied to the entire book, then the OT would mean nothing. If read properly, (picking and choosing verses) Harry Potter could be taken as fact.

B) Here's from the new testament:

1 Timothy 2:12
New International Version (NIV)
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[a] she must be quiet.
#326 - devout feminist (07/06/2012) [-]
Christianity is the teaching of Christ. His teachings is the only thing that must be followed. You can (but shouldn't) ignore the Old Testament completely. There are several factors you should need to count.

1. Even though the Bible is supposed to be the word of God, it is written by man.
2. The teachings of the Bible is just that, teachings.
3. The Bible has been edited several times (damn the Catholic Church).
4. Everything in the Bible should be interpreted with emphasis on what Jesus said.
5. You can't interpret every part of the Bible, as things like "You must believe in Jesus to get to Heaven" was edited in later to scare people into the religion.
User avatar #339 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1) God DID write the bible, just indirectly, he used the various authors of the bible to create it for him, like a human vessel. The story goes that he literally "Dictated" what to write.

2) It's a rulebook, God wrote it this way, through man, his words are flawless, our interpretation is what matters, but with the verses ive pointed out i see no toher way to interpret it.

3) yes and no, Verses i've pointed out have not.

4) Jesus actually has very little to say (again see above verses) considering his importance, the fact that he skipped a whole book written by his father is a bit frustrating.

5) You can, it's in english, if you couldnt, why the hell would you put it in? Even parts "added in" can be read and interpreted.
User avatar #348 - alfredtheweak (07/06/2012) [-]
(Damn you for making me log in to reply to your stupidity)
1. You're an idiot. Inspiration is not dictation.
2. See above.
3. Prove it.
4. Little to say? The Gospels ARE his words...
5. Read the anon's whole comment before replying to it.

Jesus does address the fact that he has changed some teachings from the Old Testament. He says that the Jews' hearts were made of stone, so they could not receive the full law. And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy.
User avatar #493 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
1. You have two choices in this case then
-etiher I am right
-or the writers of the bible can go wrong, and if they are, who is anyone to decide how god REALLY wanted it? How the hell do you know that they're even right? You cant be picky, you cant be choosy. The authors either have the word of god here or they dont, because they second they dont you can start to second guess the whole fucking book.

2. covered

3. "And no, I'm not going to cite it. I'm far too lazy"

4. all of the sudden these words are flawless and are the words of jesus, youre selectively reading the bible again.

5. fine ill use another counterargument IF THE BIBLE IS EDITED, WHY FOLLOW IT? You're supposed to follow the word of god, how do you decide where that is in the mess of edits?
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User avatar #1232 - RugbyKing (05/21/2012) [-]
In b4 "those arent scientific facts"

Point being that you cant be picky, you cant be choosy, who are you to say that god didnt mean it "in that way" he told people to write it just like the way it was written. If he said seven days to Mr. Genesis, why would he mean it in any other way than seven days? why would he not write it in such a way as to provide a full understanding to others who read it? Why would cause cause this endless debate between literalists, metaphorists, and scientists? If God was smarter than a fucking brick he would have handled the book writing a bit better.

ps In b4 it's translated from jewish, Jewish still sucks and is fought over by literalists and metaphorists, you know this because both still exist.
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#670 - racingferret (05/20/2012) [-]
>Doesn't understand that a lot of the Bible is metaphorical
>Doesn't understand that the universe is 13.8 billion years old

Nice going demonstrating the exact kind of person I was talking about.
User avatar #1250 - RugbyKing (07/06/2012) [-]
I am especially angry that you called out my deep angry atheist self and had nothing to rebuttal with. :(
User avatar #1231 - RugbyKing (05/21/2012) [-]
METAPHORICAL? WHAT.

Have you ever spoken to a literalist? im sure he'll have something else to tell you.

Leviticus 18:22
1 timothy 2:12
Deuteronomy Chapter 22

PLEASE tell me how thats metaphorical.
User avatar #1232 - RugbyKing (05/21/2012) [-]
In b4 "those arent scientific facts"

Point being that you cant be picky, you cant be choosy, who are you to say that god didnt mean it "in that way" he told people to write it just like the way it was written. If he said seven days to Mr. Genesis, why would he mean it in any other way than seven days? why would he not write it in such a way as to provide a full understanding to others who read it? Why would cause cause this endless debate between literalists, metaphorists, and scientists? If God was smarter than a fucking brick he would have handled the book writing a bit better.

ps In b4 it's translated from jewish, Jewish still sucks and is fought over by literalists and metaphorists, you know this because both still exist.

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User avatar #3 - copy (01/13/2012) [-]
I stand up for my beliefs and I get pinkies down. This is why we can't have intelligent discussions.
User avatar #4 to #3 - RugbyKing (01/13/2012) [-]
and i shot them down violently, because they were flawed severely. Here ill break it down for you:
P=premise C=Conclusion.

Your thought process:
P1: Good things happen to those who believe in God
P2: This man believes in God
C: Good things will happen to this man.

Now, you see, I used a counter example of children starving in Africa, which defeats your second premise. Something like 30k children die a day from starvation, using basic probability we can say that without a doubt, at least one of them believe in the same god you do, yet they are subject to a cruel malicious reality. Please don't respond with "oh there's shit waiting for them in heaven" Because we aren't talking about that, we're talking about what happened to the man with the golden voice. In this exact example, your theory doesn't work.


User avatar #5 to #4 - copy (01/13/2012) [-]
But what you didn't calculate are the many variables in which you must not have knowledge of. For if you had knowledge of these variables, then your answer would be different. For example, people who are Christians, normally have a harder life than people who don't believe in God. Evidence is of this conversation right now, and if not, then look at Egypt and Lybia, and even China, who mass murder people who claim to be Christians. Not to mention that you're logic is based on pure opinion which you have so deeply thought for so long that you now accept it as fact. Also, the children in africa, statistically wise, are either of the muslim faith, or of a natural faith found in the tribes. So they wouldn't know of God.

User avatar #6 to #5 - RugbyKing (01/14/2012) [-]
you fail to define these variables, you arent even attacking my premises, jesus what are you even saying is wrong of what im saying? christians having a hard life has nothing to do with what you said. Please tell me exactly where i am wrong here and dont dance around it. your argument isnt even an argument, it's just attempting to educate.
User avatar #7 to #6 - copy (01/14/2012) [-]
Variable. Christians are persecuted by other of different faiths.
Now if I may, use your theory of a=b=c, I'll show you your flaw.
You say that the way I am thinking is as simple as that, yet you didn't throw in the variable.
Now if we throw in this variable, then we have taken out your first sequence, in which, makes the other null and void, for there is no base in your argument. God blesses everyone on earth, not just Christians. Christians are the only ones who thank God for the blessings, in doing so, are singled out for it. By just believing in God, it does not state that your life will be filled with wonders and presents. It actually says that your life will be 10X harder to live. So in saying that, my point is, that God blessed that man with the voice, and in turn, he thanked God by giving him the glory for it. It's simple logic.

#8 to #7 - RugbyKing (01/14/2012) [-]
You are being so unbelievably vague it's hard to tell what you are even saying. take for instance:

"You say that the way I am thinking is as simple as that, yet you didn't throw in the variable. Now if we throw in this variable, then we have taken out your first sequence..."

What is "The variable" You clearly state above there are many variables, but now there is only one? You keep jumping around. Tell me exactly what you're talking about. Use simple language, it makes life a lot easier, you sound like the post-modernism bible. I'm not trying to be insulting, but there is definitely an easier way to say what you're saying without me having to break down every word, and i dont have to find 20 different interpretations.

As for your second part, god chooses to single out this man but not starving african children? Wait, what? this is seems very wrong, not something a kind, caring, god would do. And your fact that you say they are muslims is totally irrelevant, im saying in at least one of the millions of children who have died this way MUST have been a christian like you. Why do they die? Why dont they get the golden help of god? I choose to attribute this mans success to youtube and human beings, not an invisible man.

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User avatar #10 to #8 - copy (01/14/2012) [-]
Oh, and if you want to, I can break out pictures also.
User avatar #9 to #8 - copy (01/14/2012) [-]
You're not looking at it the way I'm looking at it. I did say there are many variables, but I did not say that that is the only variable. That is just an example of a variable. I am making it as clear as possible, if you can't understand this logic then open your mind to newer things instead of closing it in.

Now to the starving children in Africa, why do you believe that God doesn't bless them? They are alive, aren't they? But the reason they are in the situation they are in is because of man, because of sin.
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