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|#209 - Sorry guys the website took down the article I linked but it's… [+] (1 new reply)||08/31/2012 on Bill Nye motherfucker||0|
#215 - 2scared2login (08/31/2012) [-]
you can still access the cached version
|#199 - I don't think it's right, but I also don't really think it's m… [+] (9 new replies)||08/31/2012 on Bill Nye motherfucker||0|
#207 - johnshepherd (08/31/2012) [-]
I don't hate you. I think that's a very interesting perspective on the issue, but I don't hate you for it.
You say that we don't have the right to choose what somebody does to a child. But, if somebody were to rape a child, poison it, beat it, lock it up, starve it, or anything else, that person would be put in jail. I am just applying the same principals of equal rights for all to the child as those who are pro-choice would to the mother.
#233 - PickleTickle (08/31/2012) [-]
I guess it most of the arguments about this would be debating about when life starts. In my opinion, I don't think life starts until the baby can feel or move because that's when it becomes a separate entity from the mother's body, but that still comes relatively early in pregnancy. The first few weeks though it's medically just a clump of cells attached to the mother. But it's everyone's own opinion on it. I won't tell people they're wrong because they aren't, that's what they believe so to them it's right.
#256 - johnshepherd (08/31/2012) [-]
I can see the argument you are making there, you can argue that, in a certain sense you can say it isn't alive since it isn't able to react in a macroscopic scale.
But you have to remember, it can react on a microscopic scale, it prevents the entry of other sperm once it has been fertilized and attaches itself to the mother's womb, so in that sense, it is alive. It could also be considered a separate entity since it's genetic coding is different from the mother's.
I'm liking this civilized debate we seem to be having. I hadn't thought it was possible with this topic or the internet! :)
#280 - PickleTickle (08/31/2012) [-]
I agree with the fact that it is alive on a microscopic scale but in my opinion I wouldn't classify it as a child until it is aware of itself in some way, like if it could feel or hear or think etc. But that's my opinion, it's not based on medical fact. And if a woman was looking to have an abortion, a child (in most cases) wouldn't be wanted. Sure they could still continue the pregnancy but when the child is born it places tremendous hardship on the mother and father if there is one. And of course they could always put the child up for adoption, but many times children go through the adoption system and end up going to multiple families or they may not end up in a very good family.
Now my opinion on this may be a bit biased because of the fact that I am a female and I kind of know a little bit about what it would be like if there was a case where someone wanted an abortion. If I ever got pregnant I would never get an abortion, even if it was rape, but I feel like if a woman is aware that she is carrying a baby she doesn't want or can't provide for, then I think she should have a choice of what she thinks is right for her. Because I know if I was raped and got pregnant, I would not want to go through 9 months of pregnancy for a child that I didn't want. I'm not against abortion for any religious reasons and I respect people who are. But I don't think anyone should be making a decision like this on behalf of women. And I do think there needs to be restrictions on abortion, but I don't believe there should be an outright ban of it.
Wow I got a bit long winded on that one, sorry lol.
#297 - johnshepherd (08/31/2012) [-]
I can see the argument about preventing a bad life for the child. There is a chance that the child would have a horrible life. But is that worse than not living? I know for a fact that it isn't.
The pregnancy harming the mother is an interesting argument as well. Certainly, there is some risk to the mother's health, but if the octomom can survive and be fine, so can a person with 1-2 kids in their womb.
No need to be sorry. It certainly beats "WHAT IF SHE'S RAEP'D BIACH?!" which is what I normally expect on the internet.
#318 - thessalonaki (08/31/2012) [-]
Pic...I'm not sure if it's related.
#598 - chucknorrisTHEGAME (08/31/2012) [-]
Hope you don't mind if I join in on the conversation. In my opinion, if someone's life isn't worth living, it should be the choice of the person living it. The child may be in a woman's body, but it's not her life, so I don't think she should be making the choice. I always think that a person should be given a chance to live a good life, instead of having the choice made for them and the chance taken away.
#328 - johnshepherd (08/31/2012) [-]
I appreciate that you might feel that the odds of a bad life for the child outweigh the value of that life, but I disagree. Let me tell you a little story:
A woman was pregnant for the first time and she had triplets. Everything was proceeding as planned until they had to be born prematurely....as in second trimester premature. All the doctors told her that the odds of her children living were puny and that, even if they did live, the myriad of physical and mental problems would make that life miserable. She told them shut up, and gave birth to her kids. 18 years later, those kids are attending Stanford University, hold several extra-curricular state offices and one is on the top 2010 sporting clays squads nationwide.
I'm that kid. Tell me my life wasn't worth living.
#299 - johnshepherd (08/31/2012) [-]
Forgot part of my post. lol.
Well, children can certainly move voluntarily in the womb as early as 7 weeks, which would seem to indicate independent thought, to me at least. The fetus can even respond to stimuli by 2 weeks, indicating self-awareness on top of mere thought.
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#126 - 2scared2login (08/31/2012) [-]
McCain actually seem to be one of the few reasonable republicans left
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#70 - badgerbaiting (08/31/2012) [-]
<== In essence, it's a less funny version of this sort of picture.
#74 - PickleTickle (08/31/2012) [-]
I see what you mean, maybe you don't find it funny, but other people did. And I didn't put words in his mouth, I didn't write the article this came from, and I didn't even make the picture, I just found it and thought other people might like it. Sorry you didn't like it.
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