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#85 - icouldgetsome (12/09/2014) [-]
I see this notion all the time but I have to call out its ignorance each time. Southern founding fathers did not think slavery would be "phased out"—they could not possible imagine a world in which white and black people lived together. This is an absurd notion—why do you think the 2/3s compromise, the fugitive slave clause, and 11 other mentions of securing slavery were put in the Constitution?
Most states voluntarily banned the atlantic slave trade, this is true—but there was a protectionist economic motive: it was more efficient to trade in homegrown slaves, and slaves brought directly from Africa were generally more educated and had a stronger sense of nationhood and warrior culture, thereby presenting a threat of rebellion (see Stono Rebellion).
So, is there any evidence that supports this "phased out" idea? Perhaps Northern Democrats in the 1850s believed this. But the southerners of the founding generation could never imagine it. Jefferson did, in Notes on the State of Virginia, and he came to this conclusion:
"It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the state, and thus save the expence of supplying, by importation of white settlers, the vacancies they will leave? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites; ten thousand recollections, by the blacks, of the injuries they have sustained; new provocations; the real distinctions which nature has made; and many other circumstances, will divide us into parties, and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race."
Even Lincoln was in favor of forced deportation, being unable to comprehend a biracial America.
So when you say that anyone in the late 18th Century whose livelihood and economy depended on slaves thought slavery would be "phased out," that is a fucking dumb statement and has absolutely no support in the historical record.
#17 - anonymous (12/09/2014) [-]
Ha Ha no, the main reason for the war of independence was to *keep* slaves after Britain had started dismantling the slave trade.
#33 - hanabro (12/09/2014) [-]
Complete and utter bullshit. The British were taxing us without giving any representation in their government. We got pissed and rebelled. "Taxation without Representation," nigga. Do you even history?
Though, to be fair, we probably just wanted to rebel anyway, and that was our excuse. But still.
#53 - anonymous (12/09/2014) [-]
Nigga everyone wanted to leave Britain
#68 - jeffthellamaking (12/09/2014) [-]
If you're putting it in the context of every British colony, rather than solely the American colonies, there would be some truth to the statement.
But I was referring to the American colonies.
Most of the colonists wanted to stick with Britain, stay with the tyrant you know rather than switch him out for a new one.
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