i'm saying our current government needs to kick the union in the ass and tell them to quit bitching, unnecessarily.

The bakery union, which represents about 30 percent of Hostess workers, went on strike after rejecting the company's latest contract offer, even though it never filed an objection to it.

interesting.


if the union is busted we may be able to keep the jobs

Well it's not too far away, January 25th!

www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/

thanks!

he was anti-public sector union

so are you saying you support his views or dont support his views
are you saying our gov't will take over hostess?


i guess im still a dumbass

i'm saying our current government needs to kick the union in the ass and tell them to quit bitching, unnecessarily.

The bakery union, which represents about 30 percent of Hostess workers, went on strike after rejecting the company's latest contract offer, even though it never filed an objection to it.

interesting.


if the union is busted we may be able to keep the jobs

How does that even work You can't even balance a girl like that.

btw what program do you use to make gifs?

Jasc Animation Shop

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Animation-Shop-Download-2929.html

thanks!

So Global HD is a program to play the videos?
Or it is the actual tv channel?

It's a channel.

<---my only response

Roosevelt was a liberal pro Union Democrat
he basically pioneered collective bargaining in the US
are you likening him to today's political system?

I need more than a sexy picture

he was anti-public sector union

so are you saying you support his views or dont support his views
are you saying our gov't will take over hostess?


i guess im still a dumbass

i'm saying our current government needs to kick the union in the ass and tell them to quit bitching, unnecessarily.

The bakery union, which represents about 30 percent of Hostess workers, went on strike after rejecting the company's latest contract offer, even though it never filed an objection to it.

interesting.


if the union is busted we may be able to keep the jobs

I fucking love that show, hope I see more of your bad ass gifs sir.

i hope to see more of that show

Well it's not too far away, January 25th!

www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/

Well I liked it :D

XD

How does that even work You can't even balance a girl like that.

btw what program do you use to make gifs?

Jasc Animation Shop

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Animation-Shop-Download-2929.html

thanks!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/judge-asks-hostess-mediate-union-203749038.html

or potentially this ^

i would hate for all those people to loose their jobs, but with the new healthcare reform its even harder for semi functioning companies to stay afloat.

The union would have to make major sacrifices, and most of the employees would end up under employed.

Unions don't usually accept sacrifices

<---my only response

Roosevelt was a liberal pro Union Democrat
he basically pioneered collective bargaining in the US
are you likening him to today's political system?

I need more than a sexy picture

he was anti-public sector union

so are you saying you support his views or dont support his views
are you saying our gov't will take over hostess?


i guess im still a dumbass

i'm saying our current government needs to kick the union in the ass and tell them to quit bitching, unnecessarily.

The bakery union, which represents about 30 percent of Hostess workers, went on strike after rejecting the company's latest contract offer, even though it never filed an objection to it.

interesting.


if the union is busted we may be able to keep the jobs

Then why isn't food, water, and other essential needs for living not allowed in Gaza?
The Freedom Flotilla carrying aid and supplies needed for the Gazans was raided and looted and some activists were even killed by Israeli commandos.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/31/israel-kills-activists-flotilla-gaza

And of course it's a Palestinian doctor. Someone who is IN Gaza and knows what is going on. Who would you want telling that story? A doctor in China, or the US, or someone not living in Gaza OR someone who actually sees these things with his own eyes?
oh and for your PTSD. the article stated "Some parents in southern Israel say the constant sound of rocket fire means their children are showing signs of post-traumatic stress."

key word: Some
which is not a specific number. and 1/5 of Gazas 1.6 million population is about 320,000. im pretty sure 320,000 is more than "some"

The subsequent economic blockade imposed upon the Strip by the Israeli government at one stage prevented the residents of Gaza from importing, among other things, coriander, ginger, nutmeg and, even, newspapers.
Most international lawyers, as well as the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), consider the blockade to be illegal under international humanitarian law;

your psychological damage: One in five children in Gaza suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), according to the award-winning Palestinian psychiatrist Dr Eyad El-Sarraj. (More than half of Gaza's residents, incidentally, are under the age of 18.)


www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-10-things-you-need-to-know_b_2139356.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

This is the last time i reply to you, as I believe that you are either trying to counter my arguments or trolling me.

The reason for the blockade is to stop weapons smuggling as well as drug trafficking. It would be a horrible situation for Israel if missile sites were set up in Gaza.

As for the psychology bit, it could be true, but I would be remiss if I didn't say I would assume that a Palestinian Doctor would have Bias.

Here is an article about Israeli children with PTSD because they are in Gaza rocket range. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20390968

I will not reply
Consider your arguments from both sides.

Then why isn't food, water, and other essential needs for living not allowed in Gaza?
The Freedom Flotilla carrying aid and supplies needed for the Gazans was raided and looted and some activists were even killed by Israeli commandos.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/31/israel-kills-activists-flotilla-gaza

And of course it's a Palestinian doctor. Someone who is IN Gaza and knows what is going on. Who would you want telling that story? A doctor in China, or the US, or someone not living in Gaza OR someone who actually sees these things with his own eyes?
oh and for your PTSD. the article stated "Some parents in southern Israel say the constant sound of rocket fire means their children are showing signs of post-traumatic stress."

key word: Some
which is not a specific number. and 1/5 of Gazas 1.6 million population is about 320,000. im pretty sure 320,000 is more than "some"

"remember that if they had the technology to kill more effectively they would. BUT THEY DONT!!! EVERYTHING Israel has, military wise, is funded by the USA.
-and yes killing people is much worse than property damage and psychological damage.

source of picture: ifamericansknew.org

Taken at face value your statistics look nice, but The IDF demolishes STRUCTURES that are
1.being used as terror bases, bombs labs, weapons factories, weapons and ammunition warehouses, headquarters, offices etc
2. Built either in an illegal zone or unsafe
3.Forcing out an individual barricaded inside a house, which may be rigged with explosives, without risking soldiers' lives
4.Combat engineering, clearing a path for tanks and heavy armored personnel carriers
5. Destroying structures rigged with booby traps and explosives in order to prevent risk to soldiers and civilians

Do you believe that 24,813 Palestinian families were uprooted ?
Do you believe that sensible Palestinians want to have a family next to the militarized border?

This bias is insane. Yes i am sure that not all 100% of demolitions were necessary, but I'm am positive that more than half were, and that they did save Israeli lives.

The subsequent economic blockade imposed upon the Strip by the Israeli government at one stage prevented the residents of Gaza from importing, among other things, coriander, ginger, nutmeg and, even, newspapers.
Most international lawyers, as well as the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), consider the blockade to be illegal under international humanitarian law;

your psychological damage: One in five children in Gaza suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), according to the award-winning Palestinian psychiatrist Dr Eyad El-Sarraj. (More than half of Gaza's residents, incidentally, are under the age of 18.)


www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-10-things-you-need-to-know_b_2139356.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

This is the last time i reply to you, as I believe that you are either trying to counter my arguments or trolling me.

The reason for the blockade is to stop weapons smuggling as well as drug trafficking. It would be a horrible situation for Israel if missile sites were set up in Gaza.

As for the psychology bit, it could be true, but I would be remiss if I didn't say I would assume that a Palestinian Doctor would have Bias.

Here is an article about Israeli children with PTSD because they are in Gaza rocket range. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20390968

I will not reply
Consider your arguments from both sides.

Then why isn't food, water, and other essential needs for living not allowed in Gaza?
The Freedom Flotilla carrying aid and supplies needed for the Gazans was raided and looted and some activists were even killed by Israeli commandos.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/31/israel-kills-activists-flotilla-gaza

And of course it's a Palestinian doctor. Someone who is IN Gaza and knows what is going on. Who would you want telling that story? A doctor in China, or the US, or someone not living in Gaza OR someone who actually sees these things with his own eyes?
oh and for your PTSD. the article stated "Some parents in southern Israel say the constant sound of rocket fire means their children are showing signs of post-traumatic stress."

key word: Some
which is not a specific number. and 1/5 of Gazas 1.6 million population is about 320,000. im pretty sure 320,000 is more than "some"

please tell me how many deaths are from those missiles.

Source of the picture: http://www.ifamericansknew . org/stats/deaths . html

Those statistics are nice, but they ignore the cause.
Israel spends billions of dollars building bomb shelters, developing and applying systems like iron dome to protect its civilians, and in general keeping as many of its people safe as possible.
Hamas stockpiles weapons and sets up missile launch sites in densely populated areas, inside civilian buildings, in the hopes that Israel will kill civilians in self defense and help Hamas look like the oppressed underdog.
Knowing that, those numbers aren't very surprising.

I'm sorry, I don't see psychological, or property damage on that list.

And if you mention that death is much worse than either of those things, remember that if they had the technology to kill more effectively they would.

All Israelis live in constant fear, before they can go to college they are forced into the military.

If Palestinian extremists didn't fire missiles from schools and mosks, casualties will be much lower.

"remember that if they had the technology to kill more effectively they would. BUT THEY DONT!!! EVERYTHING Israel has, military wise, is funded by the USA.
-and yes killing people is much worse than property damage and psychological damage.

source of picture: ifamericansknew.org

Taken at face value your statistics look nice, but The IDF demolishes STRUCTURES that are
1.being used as terror bases, bombs labs, weapons factories, weapons and ammunition warehouses, headquarters, offices etc
2. Built either in an illegal zone or unsafe
3.Forcing out an individual barricaded inside a house, which may be rigged with explosives, without risking soldiers' lives
4.Combat engineering, clearing a path for tanks and heavy armored personnel carriers
5. Destroying structures rigged with booby traps and explosives in order to prevent risk to soldiers and civilians

Do you believe that 24,813 Palestinian families were uprooted ?
Do you believe that sensible Palestinians want to have a family next to the militarized border?

This bias is insane. Yes i am sure that not all 100% of demolitions were necessary, but I'm am positive that more than half were, and that they did save Israeli lives.

The subsequent economic blockade imposed upon the Strip by the Israeli government at one stage prevented the residents of Gaza from importing, among other things, coriander, ginger, nutmeg and, even, newspapers.
Most international lawyers, as well as the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), consider the blockade to be illegal under international humanitarian law;

your psychological damage: One in five children in Gaza suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), according to the award-winning Palestinian psychiatrist Dr Eyad El-Sarraj. (More than half of Gaza's residents, incidentally, are under the age of 18.)


www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-10-things-you-need-to-know_b_2139356.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

This is the last time i reply to you, as I believe that you are either trying to counter my arguments or trolling me.

The reason for the blockade is to stop weapons smuggling as well as drug trafficking. It would be a horrible situation for Israel if missile sites were set up in Gaza.

As for the psychology bit, it could be true, but I would be remiss if I didn't say I would assume that a Palestinian Doctor would have Bias.

Here is an article about Israeli children with PTSD because they are in Gaza rocket range. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20390968

I will not reply
Consider your arguments from both sides.

Then why isn't food, water, and other essential needs for living not allowed in Gaza?
The Freedom Flotilla carrying aid and supplies needed for the Gazans was raided and looted and some activists were even killed by Israeli commandos.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/31/israel-kills-activists-flotilla-gaza

And of course it's a Palestinian doctor. Someone who is IN Gaza and knows what is going on. Who would you want telling that story? A doctor in China, or the US, or someone not living in Gaza OR someone who actually sees these things with his own eyes?
oh and for your PTSD. the article stated "Some parents in southern Israel say the constant sound of rocket fire means their children are showing signs of post-traumatic stress."

key word: Some
which is not a specific number. and 1/5 of Gazas 1.6 million population is about 320,000. im pretty sure 320,000 is more than "some"

Thank you so much.

Don't forget that Hamas launches the rockets from civilian buildings, hoping that when Israel retaliates they'll hit civilians and improve Hamas' image as the oppressed underdog.

Whenever I watch these, I always wonder, "what the fuck did they expect to happen?"

people these days are unbelievably retarded.