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#92 - Kylo still should have easily beat her. He is trained in the …  [+] (2 replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
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#94 - Haruhi (08/12/2016) [-]
You're making a lot of assumptions, too, you know. And no, no girl survives in the star wars universe on an OUTER RIM DESERT PLANET by running and hiding. you sound like a jackass.
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#95 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Dude you're the one whose got such a massive boner for his waifu that he can't see the obvious flaws in her writing and how mary sue she is. Talk about being a jackass.
#89 - Not on the falcon its mentioned that it hasn't been touched. …  [+] (14 replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +1
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#96 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Not on the falcon its mentioned that it hasn't been touched.

I don't recall this. If it hasn't been touched since he got it then the ship shouldn't be in any position to fly in the first place. There had to have been maintence

>And unless its shown in the films that she is repairing things on it in the past that's a massive leap. All she's known to be is an orphan scavenger, not a mechanic.

This is why the new canon consists of the books, the movies, the comics, the games, and the TV show. This is why said canon is considered on the same tier as the movies regardless of your thoughts.

Current canon states that she salvaged a computer display from an old Y-wing starfighter that she used to learn alien languages, study the schematics of Republic and Imperial starships, and run flight simulations in order to hone her skills as a pilot.

Current canon also states that she studied schematics to learn how the ships in the Jakku starship graveyard worked, what role they played, what types of weapons they were armed with, their models and classes, how many crew they held, etc. It's because of this, combined with actually going into the ships themselves and dicking around with their systems, that she knows what each part does, how valuable it was, and whether or not it worked.

Current canon also states that Rey knew about the modifications Unkar Plutt made to the falcon before the force awakens even starts, hence why she knows to remove the compressor on the ship.

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#97 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
A movie should not have to rely on outside sources to justify why or how a character can do something, that just means the film and character are poorly written. Outside universe has no bearing on the actual characters in the film universe.
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#100 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And the outside universe is the actual universe. Your opinion, regarding whether it does or not, doesn't matter.

Everything regarding star wars matters unless it's stated to be non-canon by lucasfilm. This is, again, why the books, the comics, The games, the TV shows, etc are considered definite canon that is on the same tier as the movies.
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#103 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Think about it this way, the Lord of Rings movies function as a closed series although they are based on books and have many games, comics and so on describing characters and expanding the universe. There isn't a scene where Frodo picks up a sword for the first time and instantly defeats all the wraiths, he fails and gets stabbed and that's ok because it provides character development.

Failure is an important part of a story and its important for characters. Failure allows for characters to grow and develop, and to eventually overcome the trial that had bested them before. Character development comes from failure. Having a character that's instantly good at everything they do means they don't have to develop and grow. Then having to go write books and comics outside the actual story to justify this person being instantly good at everything means you're a shitty writer and your character is shitty, flat and boring.
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#105 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
Okay, but star wars isn't a closed series, as far as I know. Every thing you're bitching about is explained in the canon and you're sitting here arguing with me about how she's a mary sue and how the writers somehow fucked up because they didn't spoon-feed you the character's backstory and explain why she's able to do all this shit. Hell, despite the flight simulation crap, she still nearly crashed the falcon multiple times during that escape scene, It's not exactly a perfect escape.
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#106 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.
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#109 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

Then that's your problem. When I talk about the series, I'm not only considering the movies, I believe everything matters, which it does, regardless of your opinion.

>I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

No, anakin was a mary sue, and a lot of the shit he did was bullshit as well. Especially the whole, getting into a naboo starfighter and blowing up a fucking trade federation ship thing. However I believe that's canceled out due to the fact that he ended up falling to the dark side.

>It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.

I'm pretty sure the book that explained this shit, actually came out a month before the movie. Or maybe it was the day of.
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#98 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
The film takes place 30 years after the last one. You know how much shit happens in 30 years? For comparison, 30 years ago we were still in the cold war with russia. Within the last thirty years, the world has seen countless wars, as well as advancements within medicine, technology, science, etc.

You're not going to be able to explain all of that with a lampshaded reference, same with a universe as large as the star wars universe. It wouldn't be satisfying, and you, along with a few others, would be bitching about it non-stop regardless.
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#99 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
It's called a character arc, having a scene or two devoted to showing her repairing something on the falcon or a ship on the compound is not that difficult.
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#102 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And that's where we get the scene where finn picks up many little components while she's in the floor trying to fix something and she has to point it out multiple times.

Logically speaking if a scavenger's working with mechanical parts, chances are that scavenger probably knows how they work. But no, everything has to be spoonfed to the audience within two hours, no?
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#104 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
You've obviously never worked in scrap have you? You don't have to know how a piece of machinery works in order to grasp that it could be valuable. For example I could see a v8 engine and assume its worth money, doesn't mean I know how to fix and assembly a fucking engine.

Its not spoonfeeding, its developing a character and a backstory, but no lets just have all our characters instantly good at everything they do and never have any short comings or character. Ha characters without character. That soounds an awful lot like the chosen one, no?
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#107 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
She's not instantly good though. Again she nearly crashed the falcon during the escape, missed a couple of shots with the pistol Han gave her, and she failed her first mind trick attempt, hell it wasn't even really a fair fight with Kylo Ren, since the nigga got shot with a wookiee crossbow, something we've seen in the film itself to send people flying the moment they get hit with the bolt, he just murdered his father thinking it would cut his ties to the light side of the force, when it obviously didn't, and even then all she was really doing until he got her over the cliff was hold him back and even then after that she just started wailing at him like a goddamn child, grabbed his wrist and then got in a couple of lucky shots in.
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#108 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily. A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games. That would have been interesting. And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Don't get me wrong there are many many more problems with the film that I could go on about, but were just talking about Rey right now.
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#112 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily.

And yet she still nearly crashed and she had to try the mind trick thing again in order to get it to work. You know who did a mind trick perfectly the first time? Luke. Through out the original trilogy, Luke never...exactly trained with that shit, he just did some PT, tried to raise an X-wing, raised a couple of rocks onto each other, lifted R2-D2, and mostly did shit with telekinesis and his lightsaber, nothing complex as using a mind trick, and for all we know what he did with Yoda in episode V could have taken a week or a month, and we know he never went back to Dagobah until Episode VI, which happens a year later.

>A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games.

No, that would have been just as bad. Not to mention, it would have just gotten her killed.

>And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Actually I agree, it would have been neater.
#85 - Maybe know how to whack someone with a staff, but beat someone…  [+] (21 replies) 08/12/2016 on Star Wars: Rogue One Story... +9
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#90 - Haruhi (08/12/2016) [-]
kylo was heavily injured by the blast from the bowcaster, and remember, he just fucking murdered his dad! He clearly still feels the pull to the light, so kylo was nowhere near 100%. meanwhile, Ray has had to fend for herself her whole life and so obviously knows how to fight.
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#93 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Also the killing of his father is the metaphorical killing of his pull to the light.
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#92 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Kylo still should have easily beat her. He is trained in the way of the saber and force. And again. no you're assuming things that haven't been shown. It is highly more likely that a lone child on a strange planet would learn to fend for themselves by running and hiding.
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#94 - Haruhi (08/12/2016) [-]
You're making a lot of assumptions, too, you know. And no, no girl survives in the star wars universe on an OUTER RIM DESERT PLANET by running and hiding. you sound like a jackass.
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#95 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Dude you're the one whose got such a massive boner for his waifu that he can't see the obvious flaws in her writing and how mary sue she is. Talk about being a jackass.
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#88 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
That second one's got a pass though...she's been on jakku most of her life, and simon pegg's character "owns" the falcon at this point in time, which means he probably put her to work on the ship at various points in her life.
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#89 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Not on the falcon its mentioned that it hasn't been touched. And unless its shown in the films that she is repairing things on it in the past that's a massive leap. All she's known to be is an orphan scavenger, not a mechanic.
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#96 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Not on the falcon its mentioned that it hasn't been touched.

I don't recall this. If it hasn't been touched since he got it then the ship shouldn't be in any position to fly in the first place. There had to have been maintence

>And unless its shown in the films that she is repairing things on it in the past that's a massive leap. All she's known to be is an orphan scavenger, not a mechanic.

This is why the new canon consists of the books, the movies, the comics, the games, and the TV show. This is why said canon is considered on the same tier as the movies regardless of your thoughts.

Current canon states that she salvaged a computer display from an old Y-wing starfighter that she used to learn alien languages, study the schematics of Republic and Imperial starships, and run flight simulations in order to hone her skills as a pilot.

Current canon also states that she studied schematics to learn how the ships in the Jakku starship graveyard worked, what role they played, what types of weapons they were armed with, their models and classes, how many crew they held, etc. It's because of this, combined with actually going into the ships themselves and dicking around with their systems, that she knows what each part does, how valuable it was, and whether or not it worked.

Current canon also states that Rey knew about the modifications Unkar Plutt made to the falcon before the force awakens even starts, hence why she knows to remove the compressor on the ship.

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#97 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
A movie should not have to rely on outside sources to justify why or how a character can do something, that just means the film and character are poorly written. Outside universe has no bearing on the actual characters in the film universe.
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#100 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And the outside universe is the actual universe. Your opinion, regarding whether it does or not, doesn't matter.

Everything regarding star wars matters unless it's stated to be non-canon by lucasfilm. This is, again, why the books, the comics, The games, the TV shows, etc are considered definite canon that is on the same tier as the movies.
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#103 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Think about it this way, the Lord of Rings movies function as a closed series although they are based on books and have many games, comics and so on describing characters and expanding the universe. There isn't a scene where Frodo picks up a sword for the first time and instantly defeats all the wraiths, he fails and gets stabbed and that's ok because it provides character development.

Failure is an important part of a story and its important for characters. Failure allows for characters to grow and develop, and to eventually overcome the trial that had bested them before. Character development comes from failure. Having a character that's instantly good at everything they do means they don't have to develop and grow. Then having to go write books and comics outside the actual story to justify this person being instantly good at everything means you're a shitty writer and your character is shitty, flat and boring.
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#105 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
Okay, but star wars isn't a closed series, as far as I know. Every thing you're bitching about is explained in the canon and you're sitting here arguing with me about how she's a mary sue and how the writers somehow fucked up because they didn't spoon-feed you the character's backstory and explain why she's able to do all this shit. Hell, despite the flight simulation crap, she still nearly crashed the falcon multiple times during that escape scene, It's not exactly a perfect escape.
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#106 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.
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#109 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>Oh my god dude how are you not getting the basics here. You've completely missed my point. A MOVIE SHOULD NOT RELY ON A BOOK OR COMIC OUTSIDE THE MOVIE TO JUSTIFY A CHARACTER'S SKILLS. How hard is it to grasp that. Just try to imagine that only the movies exist and that's it. And you might say HURR DURR but the comics do exist. But you're missing my point the movie series is what I'm talking about and its not explained shes simply good at everything literally mary sue.

Then that's your problem. When I talk about the series, I'm not only considering the movies, I believe everything matters, which it does, regardless of your opinion.

>I bet you think the prequels were great to and Anakin wasn't completely mary sure either because of the expanded universe or some shit.

No, anakin was a mary sue, and a lot of the shit he did was bullshit as well. Especially the whole, getting into a naboo starfighter and blowing up a fucking trade federation ship thing. However I believe that's canceled out due to the fact that he ended up falling to the dark side.

>It's easy to go back and right 16 books justifying why are how a character can do something, but thats shitty writing.

I'm pretty sure the book that explained this shit, actually came out a month before the movie. Or maybe it was the day of.
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#98 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
The film takes place 30 years after the last one. You know how much shit happens in 30 years? For comparison, 30 years ago we were still in the cold war with russia. Within the last thirty years, the world has seen countless wars, as well as advancements within medicine, technology, science, etc.

You're not going to be able to explain all of that with a lampshaded reference, same with a universe as large as the star wars universe. It wouldn't be satisfying, and you, along with a few others, would be bitching about it non-stop regardless.
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#99 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
It's called a character arc, having a scene or two devoted to showing her repairing something on the falcon or a ship on the compound is not that difficult.
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#102 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
And that's where we get the scene where finn picks up many little components while she's in the floor trying to fix something and she has to point it out multiple times.

Logically speaking if a scavenger's working with mechanical parts, chances are that scavenger probably knows how they work. But no, everything has to be spoonfed to the audience within two hours, no?
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#104 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
You've obviously never worked in scrap have you? You don't have to know how a piece of machinery works in order to grasp that it could be valuable. For example I could see a v8 engine and assume its worth money, doesn't mean I know how to fix and assembly a fucking engine.

Its not spoonfeeding, its developing a character and a backstory, but no lets just have all our characters instantly good at everything they do and never have any short comings or character. Ha characters without character. That soounds an awful lot like the chosen one, no?
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#107 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
She's not instantly good though. Again she nearly crashed the falcon during the escape, missed a couple of shots with the pistol Han gave her, and she failed her first mind trick attempt, hell it wasn't even really a fair fight with Kylo Ren, since the nigga got shot with a wookiee crossbow, something we've seen in the film itself to send people flying the moment they get hit with the bolt, he just murdered his father thinking it would cut his ties to the light side of the force, when it obviously didn't, and even then all she was really doing until he got her over the cliff was hold him back and even then after that she just started wailing at him like a goddamn child, grabbed his wrist and then got in a couple of lucky shots in.
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#108 - MrDeadiron (08/12/2016) [-]
She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily. A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games. That would have been interesting. And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Don't get me wrong there are many many more problems with the film that I could go on about, but were just talking about Rey right now.
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#112 - huntergriff (08/12/2016) [-]
>She pulled off extremely complex flight maneuvers throughout the flight. And managed to due an extremely difficult mind trick easily.

And yet she still nearly crashed and she had to try the mind trick thing again in order to get it to work. You know who did a mind trick perfectly the first time? Luke. Through out the original trilogy, Luke never...exactly trained with that shit, he just did some PT, tried to raise an X-wing, raised a couple of rocks onto each other, lifted R2-D2, and mostly did shit with telekinesis and his lightsaber, nothing complex as using a mind trick, and for all we know what he did with Yoda in episode V could have taken a week or a month, and we know he never went back to Dagobah until Episode VI, which happens a year later.

>A good thing would have been when she comes into her force power she uses a massive force push to basically blow out her room. Allowing her to escape like we've seen in other star wars movies and games.

No, that would have been just as bad. Not to mention, it would have just gotten her killed.

>And with the fight with kylo ren it would have been much more interesting if she lost but someone saved her at the last second like poe or chewy. Or rather if she had to beat him I would have rather seen her use her newly acquired force powers to blast him back far enough to escape with finn while kylo is forced to escape because the planets imploding.

Actually I agree, it would have been neater.
#254 - No, they're the party faking civil rights in order to get votes.  [+] (1 reply) 08/10/2016 on Trumper Comp7 0
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#256 - kanyesfishsticks (08/10/2016) [-]
Yeah no shit, I'm not saying they're doing it out of a moral obligation, but that's how they get black votes.
#7 - I agree with not taking things at face value, but the Democrat…  [+] (19 replies) 08/09/2016 on Trumper Comp7 +9
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#253 - kanyesfishsticks (08/10/2016) [-]
Sure, but times have change. The Democrats are the party of civil rights now.
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#254 - MrDeadiron (08/10/2016) [-]
No, they're the party faking civil rights in order to get votes.
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#256 - kanyesfishsticks (08/10/2016) [-]
Yeah no shit, I'm not saying they're doing it out of a moral obligation, but that's how they get black votes.
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#11 - avatice (08/09/2016) [-]
I'm not really trying to make a point.
I don't care about either party at all. I'm just pointing out what isn't true.
I dunno why you gave me a red for it.
#13 - anon (08/09/2016) [-]
>I'm pointing out what isn't true
>"Since then the democratic and republican parties have basically switched ideologies."
>Proven to be not true.

Are you well?
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#16 - avatice (08/09/2016) [-]
The comic is a lie, ergo, not true?
Are you well anon?
And for all the people saying it never happened. I don't know how to convince you. Read some history books I guess. Obviously anyone can pull out articles to support their view, that black republican anon up there for example, but I'll give you some I found anyway.
www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html
www.deathandtaxesmag.com/197976/explainer-how-democrats-and-republicans-switched-sides-on-civil-rights/
chronicle.com/blognetwork/edgeofthewest/2010/05/20/when-and-to-an-extent-why-did-the-parties-switch-places/
Maybe they're accurate, maybe not. I just googled like all the rest of you
I just know what I learned in school.
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#28 - lean (08/09/2016) [-]
Fact: The Democrat Party has been the liberal party for over 100 years.
Fact: The KKK was the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party.
Fact: Robert Byrd was a liberal democrat and a member of the KKK.
Fact: The KKK was strongest (2.6 million members) During Woodrow Wilson.
Fact: Woodrow Wilson played "Birth of a Nation" in the White House.
This is the truth, not propaganda.
Natalie Wolchover's article skips 76 years. She fails to provide any proof republicans were liberals and democrats were conservatives. She fails to talk about democrats history of racism under "liberal" administrations.
LBJ was a segregationist. He and Kennedy were against the 1957 Civil Rights Act. He signed the Civil Rights Act on July 2, 1964. Then in August of 1964, he kicked the black delegates from Mississippi out of his nominating convention.

Kennedy/ Nixon debates: MR. NIXON: Senator Kennedy has expressed some hopes in this field, hopes which I think all Americans would share who want some problem - some progress in this area. But let's look at the performance. When he selected his vice presidential running mate, he selected a man who had voted against most of these proposals and who opposes them at the present time.

Let's have a look at their party platforms from 1960 and see which party is for de-segregation, and who is just paying lip service for it:

Democratic Party:

A new Democratic Administration will also use its full powers—legal and moral—to ensure the beginning of good-faith compliance with the Constitutional requirement that racial discrimination be ended in public education.

We believe that every school district affected by the Supreme Court's school desegregation decision should submit a plan providing for at least first-step compliance by 1963, the 100th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation.
Eight years later, the Kennedy-Johnson Era, there was no desegregation. The promises were broken.

Republican Party:

We pledge:
The Department of Justice will continue its vigorous support of court orders for school desegregation. Desegregation suits now pending involve at least 39 school districts. Those suits and others already concluded will affect most major cities in which school segregation is being practiced.

It will use the new authority provided by the Civil Rights Act of 1960 to prevent obstruction of court orders.

We will propose legislation to authorize the Attorney General to bring actions for school desegregation in the name of the United States in appropriate cases, as when economic coercion or threat of physical harm is used to deter persons from going to court to establish their rights.

Our continuing support of the President's proposal, to extend federal aid and technical assistance to schools which in good faith attempted to desegregate.

We oppose the pretense of fixing a target date 3 years from now for the mere submission of plans for school desegregation. Slow-moving school districts would construe it as a three-year moratorium during which progress would cease, postponing until 1963 the legal process to enforce compliance. We believe that each of the pending court actions should proceed as the Supreme Court has directed and that in no district should there be any such delay.
By his first year in office, Nixon had desegregated most of the schools. Republicans were right, the democrats were just using the 3 years target date as a pretense. Nixon and republicans kept the promise in 1969.
Actions speak louder than words. 1936 was a populist (FDR) vs a moderate (Alf Landon). I will remind you that FDR was a democrat, and 6 years later signed Executive Order 9066, an internment order for hundreds of thousands of japanese immigrants and japanese american citizens.

Your other two articles are essentially uncited liberal blogs. Not going to try and refute an "author" who's wiki page is getting deleted:
deletedwikipedia.gawker-labs.com/wiki/Robyn_Pennacchia
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#35 - MuahahaOfLore (08/09/2016) [-]
great post

Wow
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#18 - anon (08/09/2016) [-]
"I just know what I learned in school."

Which the harder you try it's becoming clearer what you learned. Literally fucking nothing.
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#20 - avatice (08/09/2016) [-]
Well I guess we should now call into question the ability of american public schools to give people the basic facts.
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#39 - lean (08/09/2016) [-]
Take a look at the party pushing federal mandates across school curriculum, the politics of an overwhelming amount of public school teachers, and the publishing companies making billions off standardized testing and textbooks.

Pearson publishing in NYC, a subsidiary of pearson PLC (London) was founded in 1998. In 2010 they signed a 5 year $32 million dollar contract with the state of new york's DEA. New York also signed the first Common Core teacher evaluation law mandating 20% minimum grades based off test scores. What a coincidence.

Today Pearson's $9 billion revenues are 60% in the USA. Their non-profit branch, PCF, donated over half a million dollars to Education think tanks in 2009, a year before Common core. Makes you wonder who's picking what's in the textbooks these days.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/09/23/common-core-the-gift-that-pearson-counts-on-to-keep-giving/
www.alternet.org/education/corporations-profit-standardized-tests
www.pearsoned.com/news/pearson-joins-president-and-mrs-obama-education-secretary-duncan-for-white-house-higher-education-summit/
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#29 - thegamepixel (08/09/2016) [-]
You should. A lot of us already have. Public schools are controlled by the government thanks to the common core initiative which was drafted by people who were not educators and pushed by the left. It is unconstitutional, illegal, and manipulative. Since common core has started the public school system is required to teach both evolution and creationism, that global warming is caused by human intervention, that sexual diversity is a natural trait someone is born with, as well as revising history to fit their narratives (as they've done with you taking knowledge from school which supports the parties switching). These are all left-wing ideologies (whether you agree with them or not) and the science for them is very much uncertain. You were the one preaching about not taking things at face value. Practice what you preach.

btw we don't all just take things from articles and school. We do research and think critically.
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#32 - avatice (08/09/2016) [-]
You think you know the system but you don't know the man. I know the man. Not every teacher is a mindless drone. A fair few are but there are some you have to respect. I can't explain to you why without you knowing him.
He was just, a good teacher.
#92 - anon (08/10/2016) [-]
My aunt is a teacher. I respect her. Very smart lady, very articulate. But she's a drone when it comes to teaching because that's how you get by as a teacher I've had plenty of good teachers who actually know their shit and don't play by the book, but more often than not you're going to get the drones because that's how the current incentives work. One of my high school math teachers blatantly refused to help me when I was having trouble in class. Several other complaints of similar nature from parents and students alike. She didn't even receive a slap on the wrist because she's tenured.

One of the best teachers I've ever had was suspended for offering students cans of soda for doing volunteer work after class such as cleaning up the shop room, which I did all the time for that sweet fucking Dr. Pepper . The system is a joke.
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#96 - avatice (08/10/2016) [-]
Sorry to hear that. I have had somewhat of a special experience when it came to education thus far. I have been fortunate to have good teachers. I guess they are rarely seen.
#40 - thegamepixel (08/09/2016) [-]
good teacher =/= fully knowledgable about complex historic political issues.
He's still required to teach what the government demands. The vast majority of teachers are liberal, so even if he is a good teacher, he probably believes in that. He may not be a bad person, but the Democrat elites are.

You didn't even mention the teacher before.
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#46 - avatice (08/09/2016) [-]
Like I said you do that know who he was or what he did. He taught what he was supposed to, but also a whole lot more. He was not a democrat. He consistently did his own research and presented both sides.
I know I didn't mention my teacher, buy you were the one who assumed the whole education system was the same.
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#47 - thegamepixel (08/09/2016) [-]
well it is. That's how common core works. They have to teach the curriculum no matter how politically fused it is.
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#13 - velcharis (08/06/2016) [-]
Aw damn, language barrier messed it up :<
Guess "Darkness" is fine too.