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#43 - Which is all the girl cares about. She just wants to deal with…  [+] (2 new replies) 11 hours ago on description is true +1
#47 - jugheadi (10 hours ago) [-]
the girl said it would be easier without letters
because without letters there are only numbers
with only numbers, it is simple to solve
User avatar #86 - thepastryistrue (9 hours ago) [-]
Yes. That what it was all about: The girl in the first comment was arguing about the necessity to substitute pure numbers with something that has a shiftable semantic content, like letters. In her mind it would be much easier to solve problems without using anything beside pure numbers - which would render variables useless. And what good would math do without variables? The simple question of "A has x apples. He gives y apples to B. How many apples has A left?" would be unsolvable with her demand.
#39 - Yeah, but we're talking about if letters weren't used so why a…  [+] (4 new replies) 11 hours ago on description is true +1
#42 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
that replaces letters, not the concept of letters
your wheels are spinning
User avatar #43 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Which is all the girl cares about. She just wants to deal with numbers and not letters. ie. replace them.

You think I want to try and argue against the concept of letters in math? Who would do that. Letters are useful as.
#47 - jugheadi (10 hours ago) [-]
the girl said it would be easier without letters
because without letters there are only numbers
with only numbers, it is simple to solve
User avatar #86 - thepastryistrue (9 hours ago) [-]
Yes. That what it was all about: The girl in the first comment was arguing about the necessity to substitute pure numbers with something that has a shiftable semantic content, like letters. In her mind it would be much easier to solve problems without using anything beside pure numbers - which would render variables useless. And what good would math do without variables? The simple question of "A has x apples. He gives y apples to B. How many apples has A left?" would be unsolvable with her demand.
#24 - *sigh* the more important part is that words represent meaning…  [+] (6 new replies) 11 hours ago on description is true +1
#30 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
i like how you set up a condescending tone
unfortunately understanding the relations between different concepts is to find the answer, which in algebra is represented by a letter
i dont think you thought this through
User avatar #39 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, but we're talking about if letters weren't used so why are you bringing up the thing we're pretending didn't exist? Just because letters aren't used doesn't mean that the math to work things out is any different. They still have to do the exact same calculations. They just have to know what to do with the numbers, not put them into letter variables in equations.
#42 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
that replaces letters, not the concept of letters
your wheels are spinning
User avatar #43 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Which is all the girl cares about. She just wants to deal with numbers and not letters. ie. replace them.

You think I want to try and argue against the concept of letters in math? Who would do that. Letters are useful as.
#47 - jugheadi (10 hours ago) [-]
the girl said it would be easier without letters
because without letters there are only numbers
with only numbers, it is simple to solve
User avatar #86 - thepastryistrue (9 hours ago) [-]
Yes. That what it was all about: The girl in the first comment was arguing about the necessity to substitute pure numbers with something that has a shiftable semantic content, like letters. In her mind it would be much easier to solve problems without using anything beside pure numbers - which would render variables useless. And what good would math do without variables? The simple question of "A has x apples. He gives y apples to B. How many apples has A left?" would be unsolvable with her demand.
#20 - It doesn't have to be. It can be written as "Kinetic ener…  [+] (8 new replies) 12 hours ago on description is true +1
#21 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
and what are words made of....
User avatar #24 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
*sigh* the more important part is that words represent meanings to people without them having to memorise what specific letters stand for. Also the 'letters' in my words you are talking about aren't in the math part of the equation. The words they form are the result of the math. Not part of the math, which is what the girl in the original comment was probably talking about. I doubt she would have been complaining about something like x = 4 + 3. It would have been something like y = (3x^2 + 5x)/(4 + x)

Also, you missed my point. The reason that someone would actually have numbers instead of letters in a real life situation is because they took the measurement of something. Whether that be mass or speed or distance or length or whatever it is. So now where do they go with that number they measured? If they didn't know the physics they wouldn't be able to do anything with them. This doesn't involve letters at all. It involves knowing what to do with the numbers you have.
#30 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
i like how you set up a condescending tone
unfortunately understanding the relations between different concepts is to find the answer, which in algebra is represented by a letter
i dont think you thought this through
User avatar #39 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, but we're talking about if letters weren't used so why are you bringing up the thing we're pretending didn't exist? Just because letters aren't used doesn't mean that the math to work things out is any different. They still have to do the exact same calculations. They just have to know what to do with the numbers, not put them into letter variables in equations.
#42 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
that replaces letters, not the concept of letters
your wheels are spinning
User avatar #43 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Which is all the girl cares about. She just wants to deal with numbers and not letters. ie. replace them.

You think I want to try and argue against the concept of letters in math? Who would do that. Letters are useful as.
#47 - jugheadi (10 hours ago) [-]
the girl said it would be easier without letters
because without letters there are only numbers
with only numbers, it is simple to solve
User avatar #86 - thepastryistrue (9 hours ago) [-]
Yes. That what it was all about: The girl in the first comment was arguing about the necessity to substitute pure numbers with something that has a shiftable semantic content, like letters. In her mind it would be much easier to solve problems without using anything beside pure numbers - which would render variables useless. And what good would math do without variables? The simple question of "A has x apples. He gives y apples to B. How many apples has A left?" would be unsolvable with her demand.
#17 - If being logical is my crime, then I shall stick with my comme…  [+] (10 new replies) 12 hours ago on description is true +2
#18 - jugheadi (12 hours ago) [-]
you would already know the answer to the equation because the number you were trying to solve is represented by a letter
my point remains valid
User avatar #20 - Menko (12 hours ago) [-]
It doesn't have to be. It can be written as "Kinetic energy = half mass times velocity squared."

That's two words which someone can actually read and interpret a meaning from. Not an arbitrary letter chosen to represent a value, which are the letters you are talking about.
#21 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
and what are words made of....
User avatar #24 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
*sigh* the more important part is that words represent meanings to people without them having to memorise what specific letters stand for. Also the 'letters' in my words you are talking about aren't in the math part of the equation. The words they form are the result of the math. Not part of the math, which is what the girl in the original comment was probably talking about. I doubt she would have been complaining about something like x = 4 + 3. It would have been something like y = (3x^2 + 5x)/(4 + x)

Also, you missed my point. The reason that someone would actually have numbers instead of letters in a real life situation is because they took the measurement of something. Whether that be mass or speed or distance or length or whatever it is. So now where do they go with that number they measured? If they didn't know the physics they wouldn't be able to do anything with them. This doesn't involve letters at all. It involves knowing what to do with the numbers you have.
#30 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
i like how you set up a condescending tone
unfortunately understanding the relations between different concepts is to find the answer, which in algebra is represented by a letter
i dont think you thought this through
User avatar #39 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, but we're talking about if letters weren't used so why are you bringing up the thing we're pretending didn't exist? Just because letters aren't used doesn't mean that the math to work things out is any different. They still have to do the exact same calculations. They just have to know what to do with the numbers, not put them into letter variables in equations.
#42 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
that replaces letters, not the concept of letters
your wheels are spinning
User avatar #43 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Which is all the girl cares about. She just wants to deal with numbers and not letters. ie. replace them.

You think I want to try and argue against the concept of letters in math? Who would do that. Letters are useful as.
#47 - jugheadi (10 hours ago) [-]
the girl said it would be easier without letters
because without letters there are only numbers
with only numbers, it is simple to solve
User avatar #86 - thepastryistrue (9 hours ago) [-]
Yes. That what it was all about: The girl in the first comment was arguing about the necessity to substitute pure numbers with something that has a shiftable semantic content, like letters. In her mind it would be much easier to solve problems without using anything beside pure numbers - which would render variables useless. And what good would math do without variables? The simple question of "A has x apples. He gives y apples to B. How many apples has A left?" would be unsolvable with her demand.
#9 - Well, I guess she isn't wrong...  [+] (12 new replies) 14 hours ago on description is true +2
#11 - jugheadi (12 hours ago) [-]
you're either being thumbed down for being logical on funnyjunk
or because having the numbers before you do the math would diminish the purpose of math and science all together
that concept would end in total disaster or a utopia
i couldn't say which, but both seem as likely
User avatar #17 - Menko (12 hours ago) [-]
If being logical is my crime, then I shall stick with my comment!

And having the numbers before you did the math wouldn't diminish the purpose of math and science at all really. People would still need to have an understanding of physics/math to know what to do with the numbers to make them useful.

example: Knowing that if you multiply half the mass of an object by it's velocity squared gives you its kinetic energy. If the person doesn't know that, then knowing what its mass and velocity are doesn't actually accomplish much.
#18 - jugheadi (12 hours ago) [-]
you would already know the answer to the equation because the number you were trying to solve is represented by a letter
my point remains valid
User avatar #20 - Menko (12 hours ago) [-]
It doesn't have to be. It can be written as "Kinetic energy = half mass times velocity squared."

That's two words which someone can actually read and interpret a meaning from. Not an arbitrary letter chosen to represent a value, which are the letters you are talking about.
#21 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
and what are words made of....
User avatar #24 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
*sigh* the more important part is that words represent meanings to people without them having to memorise what specific letters stand for. Also the 'letters' in my words you are talking about aren't in the math part of the equation. The words they form are the result of the math. Not part of the math, which is what the girl in the original comment was probably talking about. I doubt she would have been complaining about something like x = 4 + 3. It would have been something like y = (3x^2 + 5x)/(4 + x)

Also, you missed my point. The reason that someone would actually have numbers instead of letters in a real life situation is because they took the measurement of something. Whether that be mass or speed or distance or length or whatever it is. So now where do they go with that number they measured? If they didn't know the physics they wouldn't be able to do anything with them. This doesn't involve letters at all. It involves knowing what to do with the numbers you have.
#30 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
i like how you set up a condescending tone
unfortunately understanding the relations between different concepts is to find the answer, which in algebra is represented by a letter
i dont think you thought this through
User avatar #39 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, but we're talking about if letters weren't used so why are you bringing up the thing we're pretending didn't exist? Just because letters aren't used doesn't mean that the math to work things out is any different. They still have to do the exact same calculations. They just have to know what to do with the numbers, not put them into letter variables in equations.
#42 - jugheadi (11 hours ago) [-]
that replaces letters, not the concept of letters
your wheels are spinning
User avatar #43 - Menko (11 hours ago) [-]
Which is all the girl cares about. She just wants to deal with numbers and not letters. ie. replace them.

You think I want to try and argue against the concept of letters in math? Who would do that. Letters are useful as.
#47 - jugheadi (10 hours ago) [-]
the girl said it would be easier without letters
because without letters there are only numbers
with only numbers, it is simple to solve
User avatar #86 - thepastryistrue (9 hours ago) [-]
Yes. That what it was all about: The girl in the first comment was arguing about the necessity to substitute pure numbers with something that has a shiftable semantic content, like letters. In her mind it would be much easier to solve problems without using anything beside pure numbers - which would render variables useless. And what good would math do without variables? The simple question of "A has x apples. He gives y apples to B. How many apples has A left?" would be unsolvable with her demand.
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