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#3930 - I have been single for like 3 years  [+] (1 new reply) 11/20/2014 on what do you look like? 0
User avatar #4488 - plataeiou (11/20/2014) [-]
GLORIOUS
#60 - this was ******* retarded 11/16/2014 on Flirting Level: Over 9000!!! +5
#24 - why is anyone upset about this. she isn't trying to call him o…  [+] (1 new reply) 11/15/2014 on (untitled) +19
#75 - skindread (11/15/2014) [-]
but if it was a guy was flirting with a girl as much as she was it, it would be considered harrasment
#101 - it is DEFINITELY not ironic. 11/06/2014 on glorious pc gaming master race 0
#60 - you're a ******* monster 10/28/2014 on The end +2
#82 - jesus christ the flower one though. i read the first one and w… 10/24/2014 on HUGE 4chan comp. Part 8/32 +5
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#22 - yeah exactly! The question is where you put your threshold for…  [+] (6 new replies) 10/14/2014 on Ken M is Love 0
#29 - twilightdusk (10/14/2014) [-]
Science, real science, usually says things along the lines of "This is the most probably explanation" rather than saying things in absolutes. We don't know for sure if the theory of evolution is correct but it's the best explanation we have and it's useful for making predictions about things. Same deal with the Big Bang and most other scientific theories.

The only things science holds 100% true are what we call Laws, which is a fancy way to describe observations we've made about the world. Gravity is a theory, but we know for certain that if we drop something in a vacuum here on Earth, it falls towards the ground with an acceleration of about 9.8 meters per second.

With your jumping off a 50 story building example, the most probable result is you will go splat against the ground below, but there are cases where that isn't so, especially if there's something to cushion your fall at the bottom.
User avatar #36 - krobeles (10/14/2014) [-]
There isn't really a differance between a hypothesis and a law. Its all just stuff which we have found to be a pretty good approximation of reality - most of the time.
That said, certain principles work out with such an astounding frequency and with so little error, that it is not inaccurate to describe them as universal truths in common parlance.

To get away from explaining what scientific theory is, and into what you were saying: The dude MCmc is correct. Agnostic is a bullshit definition, seeing as how nobody can ever be 100% sure of anything, especially not the existance or none-existance of an ephemeral entity we have no data or observations on. We cannot decide anything with regards to his existance and since his existance would defy allmost every single physical principle we have constructed, we are therefor forced to write his existance off as being so implausible that we can approximate the slim chance of him actually existing as being effectively 0.

It is impossible to be agnostic. You either believe or you dont. I understand the need that some people have, to pick a middle-ground which they hope will offend nobody, but I feel like its a dumb thing to do. It doesn't contribute anything to the debate, and it doesn't allow you to grow as you decide your own personal stance on the issue.
#37 - twilightdusk (10/14/2014) [-]
"There isn't really a differance between a hypothesis and a law."

...No. This first line invalidates anything else you could possibly say. A hypothesis is just some guy saying "This is what I think might happen," It's what non-science people call a Theory. The scientific process starts from a hypothesis like that and tests it, confirming or refuting the hypothesis which is then refined and tested again and again.

A Law is an observation of the natural world that has been tested to the point that we know it to be correct. F = G (m1*m2 / r2) is a scientific law, we have proven over and over again that this formula correctly predicts the force of gravity between two objects.

From a collection of laws, we then come up with scientific theories, explanations for why things happen, to complement laws describing what happens. These are a lot more malleable, often needing to change if new laws are discovered, or if what we thought was a law is proven to be incorrect. Theories are impossible to prove in any real respect, they're just our best guesses at explaining scientific laws, and the moment they're proven to be inaccurate, scientists stop caring about them.
User avatar #39 - krobeles (10/14/2014) [-]
I am at a loss for words. You narrow-mindedly looked at the first sentence and used that slight fault to discredit everything else I wrote. How very miopically of you. Nifty little tactic. Wouldn't want you to answer the rest of my post, now would we?

To refute what you said:
A hypothesis is merely a theory that hasn't been properly tested yet. A theory is merely a law which hasn't been properly verified yet.
As such, a hypothesis is a nacent law. Atleast ideally, it is. Of course this is rarely the case, but since both laws, theories and hypothesis is merely our most educated guess at how the world may work, you cant try to postulate a hierachy of them where one is held in greater reverance than the other. Its all just intangible principles which we attempt to describe our world with. Some of them may be more reliable tools to do so with than others, but it doesn't discredit any of them.

I think its a lawed notion to apply scientific theory to the question of gods existance in the first place. According to science, there is no debate. His existance is quite simply irrelevant.

Oh, and by the way: Dont sling equations around thinking it makes you look smart. Frankly, it just makes it seem like you're one of those people who learned about Newtons gravitational laws last week, and are still totally hyped up about them.
#38 - twilightdusk (10/14/2014) [-]
Formula should have been written F = G (m1 * m2 / r^2), sorry.
User avatar #27 - YllekNayr (10/14/2014) [-]
Are you really comparing whether you'll fall off a building to the existence of a deity in terms of likelihood?
#18 - excellent chart. by that logic you also are agnostic about evo…  [+] (9 new replies) 10/14/2014 on Ken M is Love -4
#21 - techjoker (10/14/2014) [-]
It says it's not possible to be 100% certain, but it still is possible to be 99.999 % certain.
If you jump from a roof of a 50 story building, you know that you're probably going to die, but not necessarily.
#22 - MCmc (10/14/2014) [-]
yeah exactly! The question is where you put your threshold for significance. According to his chart you should claim to be agnostic about anything that is not 100% certain. I'm suggesting you should should be willing to be gnostic about things that are, as you put it 99.999% certain.

That way instead of saying something stupid like "hey I don't know if i'll die when I jump" you can say, "I'm pretty fucking certain I'll die if I jump" even though it isn't 100% certain
#29 - twilightdusk (10/14/2014) [-]
Science, real science, usually says things along the lines of "This is the most probably explanation" rather than saying things in absolutes. We don't know for sure if the theory of evolution is correct but it's the best explanation we have and it's useful for making predictions about things. Same deal with the Big Bang and most other scientific theories.

The only things science holds 100% true are what we call Laws, which is a fancy way to describe observations we've made about the world. Gravity is a theory, but we know for certain that if we drop something in a vacuum here on Earth, it falls towards the ground with an acceleration of about 9.8 meters per second.

With your jumping off a 50 story building example, the most probable result is you will go splat against the ground below, but there are cases where that isn't so, especially if there's something to cushion your fall at the bottom.
User avatar #36 - krobeles (10/14/2014) [-]
There isn't really a differance between a hypothesis and a law. Its all just stuff which we have found to be a pretty good approximation of reality - most of the time.
That said, certain principles work out with such an astounding frequency and with so little error, that it is not inaccurate to describe them as universal truths in common parlance.

To get away from explaining what scientific theory is, and into what you were saying: The dude MCmc is correct. Agnostic is a bullshit definition, seeing as how nobody can ever be 100% sure of anything, especially not the existance or none-existance of an ephemeral entity we have no data or observations on. We cannot decide anything with regards to his existance and since his existance would defy allmost every single physical principle we have constructed, we are therefor forced to write his existance off as being so implausible that we can approximate the slim chance of him actually existing as being effectively 0.

It is impossible to be agnostic. You either believe or you dont. I understand the need that some people have, to pick a middle-ground which they hope will offend nobody, but I feel like its a dumb thing to do. It doesn't contribute anything to the debate, and it doesn't allow you to grow as you decide your own personal stance on the issue.
#37 - twilightdusk (10/14/2014) [-]
"There isn't really a differance between a hypothesis and a law."

...No. This first line invalidates anything else you could possibly say. A hypothesis is just some guy saying "This is what I think might happen," It's what non-science people call a Theory. The scientific process starts from a hypothesis like that and tests it, confirming or refuting the hypothesis which is then refined and tested again and again.

A Law is an observation of the natural world that has been tested to the point that we know it to be correct. F = G (m1*m2 / r2) is a scientific law, we have proven over and over again that this formula correctly predicts the force of gravity between two objects.

From a collection of laws, we then come up with scientific theories, explanations for why things happen, to complement laws describing what happens. These are a lot more malleable, often needing to change if new laws are discovered, or if what we thought was a law is proven to be incorrect. Theories are impossible to prove in any real respect, they're just our best guesses at explaining scientific laws, and the moment they're proven to be inaccurate, scientists stop caring about them.
User avatar #39 - krobeles (10/14/2014) [-]
I am at a loss for words. You narrow-mindedly looked at the first sentence and used that slight fault to discredit everything else I wrote. How very miopically of you. Nifty little tactic. Wouldn't want you to answer the rest of my post, now would we?

To refute what you said:
A hypothesis is merely a theory that hasn't been properly tested yet. A theory is merely a law which hasn't been properly verified yet.
As such, a hypothesis is a nacent law. Atleast ideally, it is. Of course this is rarely the case, but since both laws, theories and hypothesis is merely our most educated guess at how the world may work, you cant try to postulate a hierachy of them where one is held in greater reverance than the other. Its all just intangible principles which we attempt to describe our world with. Some of them may be more reliable tools to do so with than others, but it doesn't discredit any of them.

I think its a lawed notion to apply scientific theory to the question of gods existance in the first place. According to science, there is no debate. His existance is quite simply irrelevant.

Oh, and by the way: Dont sling equations around thinking it makes you look smart. Frankly, it just makes it seem like you're one of those people who learned about Newtons gravitational laws last week, and are still totally hyped up about them.
#38 - twilightdusk (10/14/2014) [-]
Formula should have been written F = G (m1 * m2 / r^2), sorry.
User avatar #27 - YllekNayr (10/14/2014) [-]
Are you really comparing whether you'll fall off a building to the existence of a deity in terms of likelihood?
User avatar #20 - hanabro (10/14/2014) [-]
Or, you don't really care enough to risk it.

These charts always have a tragic lack of Apathy.
#72 - its much scarier when you concede that ouija boards dont work.…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/12/2014 on 2spooky4me 0
User avatar #83 - darksideofthebeast (10/12/2014) [-]
Actually, just believing that an Ouija board works, it starts working.
That's how spiritual things work, the brain does all the work to making it real.
And if it becomes real, then it is real for that person. Spirituality is subjective, what is real for one, is fake for the other.

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#14 to #14 - MCmc ONLINE (06/24/2012) [-]
why?
User avatar #11 - lolninjakik ONLINE (07/06/2011) [-]
May i have the ip to your server?
#12 to #12 - MCmc ONLINE (07/07/2011) [-]
sorry no, I only let my personal friends play on the server
User avatar #6 - MCPie (10/28/2010) [-]
MY NAME STARTS WITH MC
#7 to #6 - MCmc ONLINE (11/13/2010) [-]
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#1 - PeterPhanTheAZn **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#2 to #1 - MCmc ONLINE (10/17/2010) [-]
haha yeah man thats funnyjunk.
probably a lot of people didn't see the earlier post of futurama in 3 pixels though. or they haven't seen fry's i see what you did pic. you need a lot of background to get it...
#3 to #2 - PeterPhanTheAZn **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#4 to #3 - MCmc ONLINE (10/17/2010) [-]
thats tight.
Yeah you eventually have to give up any idea of ownership. My roommate is actually the one who first posted the "caution this is sparta." You've probably seen the original of that, it's an actual picture with the "caution this is sparta" written on paper and posted on a sign. He made it at his work, I didn't believe him for a week until he showed me a picture of him holding up that exact sign haha. That **** is on tshirts now but of course he doesn't say anything about it.
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