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#436 - Irrelevant situation. 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! 0
#193 - But you wouldn't be able to care, you're a fetus. I t…  [+] (1 new reply) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! 0
User avatar #201 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I meant as if I was the father. I would be extremely upset that my potential child was down a drain somewhere and would cut all ties with the "mother".

And this is where we disagree. You sacrifice a potential child because you fucked up (no pun intended). That's fine in your book, not in mine. Can't be helped.
#163 - A person in a coma is already experiencing life, and for one h…  [+] (3 new replies) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! 0
User avatar #169 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I would if it was my "fetus".
We aren't going to come to an agreement because we are both set in our ways, and it doesn't really matter anyways because we agree on the legality of it. Get your abortions, default on your loans, blame the guy next to you, cheat on your spouse, it's all legal and hey, it should be. I'm still going to disagree with you and your lifestyle. It shows a massive lack of responsibility and chances are I would have no respect for you.
I say "we" as in myself and someone who does any of the above I said, not you specifically.
#193 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
But you wouldn't be able to care, you're a fetus.

I think paying for the abortion and having to undergo the operation is responsibility enough for learning from your mistakes. A whole life to be responsible for as a result of not being careful enough during sex is way too much to ask anyone to be responsible for.
User avatar #201 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I meant as if I was the father. I would be extremely upset that my potential child was down a drain somewhere and would cut all ties with the "mother".

And this is where we disagree. You sacrifice a potential child because you fucked up (no pun intended). That's fine in your book, not in mine. Can't be helped.
#157 - If you don't want a baby, you don't want a baby and shouldn't …  [+] (5 new replies) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! -1
User avatar #160 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Same with people in comas am I right?
#163 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
A person in a coma is already experiencing life, and for one his death might actually matter to whoever cares about him. A mother getting an abortion doesn't care about the fetus, and nobody's going to care about a dead fetus anyway.
User avatar #169 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I would if it was my "fetus".
We aren't going to come to an agreement because we are both set in our ways, and it doesn't really matter anyways because we agree on the legality of it. Get your abortions, default on your loans, blame the guy next to you, cheat on your spouse, it's all legal and hey, it should be. I'm still going to disagree with you and your lifestyle. It shows a massive lack of responsibility and chances are I would have no respect for you.
I say "we" as in myself and someone who does any of the above I said, not you specifically.
#193 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
But you wouldn't be able to care, you're a fetus.

I think paying for the abortion and having to undergo the operation is responsibility enough for learning from your mistakes. A whole life to be responsible for as a result of not being careful enough during sex is way too much to ask anyone to be responsible for.
User avatar #201 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I meant as if I was the father. I would be extremely upset that my potential child was down a drain somewhere and would cut all ties with the "mother".

And this is where we disagree. You sacrifice a potential child because you fucked up (no pun intended). That's fine in your book, not in mine. Can't be helped.
#153 - And furthermore, how is it responsible to accept a kid you don… 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! -1
#149 - How can you call it murder if the child doesn't even realize i…  [+] (4 new replies) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! -4
#340 - zendir (03/08/2014) [-]
What if someone went crazy and decided you looked like a nice first victim and shot you in the fucking head. You did not even realize you were being killed.
#436 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
Irrelevant situation.
#198 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah we should allow abortion until the child hits the age of 1 year old. I mean 3 month olds don't even know they are being killed nor are they self aware!
#153 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
And furthermore, how is it responsible to accept a kid you don't want to raise? Force a child to be up for adoption? Who are you to dictate that?
#98 - Contraceptives aren't always 100% reliable (especially in the …  [+] (19 new replies) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! -3
#136 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
you can always put the kid up for adoption. Who are you to deny it life? You were the irresponsible one who got pregnant without wanting a child in the first place. If it was rape or incest i understand but there are consequences to being irresponsible and it's unfair to the child to be murdered
#149 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
How can you call it murder if the child doesn't even realize it's being killed?
How can you call it murder if it's not self aware?
#340 - zendir (03/08/2014) [-]
What if someone went crazy and decided you looked like a nice first victim and shot you in the fucking head. You did not even realize you were being killed.
#436 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
Irrelevant situation.
#198 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah we should allow abortion until the child hits the age of 1 year old. I mean 3 month olds don't even know they are being killed nor are they self aware!
#153 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
And furthermore, how is it responsible to accept a kid you don't want to raise? Force a child to be up for adoption? Who are you to dictate that?
User avatar #118 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
God I can't stand the whole "I'm sparing the baby" argument for abortion. You aren't thinking about the baby's life when you decide to get an abortion, you are thinking of yourself. You don't want the responsibility of having a child so you take the easy way out. I can guarantee if they polled people who were raised by mothers who during their pregnancy didn't want them the amount who said they are glad they were given a chance at life would be pretty much the same as a control group.
That being said, I think abortion should be legal. I would never want my significant other to get one and would fight them about it if it was an issue, but my personal opinion doesn't dictate law.
I underlined "during their pregnancy" because a lot of mothers love their children once they are born even if they didn't want it before.
User avatar #176 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
Then do please tell me, Einstein, if your child, while still a fetus, is diagnosed with a horrible disease that will kill him in several years...
Would you not spare yourself AND the soon-to-be child from all the pain and suffering?! Do you not think that it is the most humane thing to NOT allow such a child to have to go through all that?

Doesn't this apply, albeit to a lesser extent, to those who are not in a position to raise their child properly i.e. are still in poverty and can't yet be truly independent?!
Are you even aware of how much of a cost a child actually is, if you want your fucking OFFSPRING, your most precious thing in life, to have the best you can give to him, so that they will become AT LEAST as successful as you are?!
User avatar #185 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I know how hard it is raising a child on a tight budget. My niece was born when my brother was 18 and her mother was 16. He worked full time and took out loans to pay for college and the mother got a job in nursing. Watching them has only reassured my stance on this whole thing.
As for the hypothetical scenario where the child is diagnosed with an illness, I would still opt to have the child. There is no way that they could 100% guarantee that the child would die, and at the point where they could diagnose something like that the baby would already be very very developed, you don't get an early term abortion over something like that, and that's chiefly what I'm against.
And even though I don't agree with your point in the first place, I still don't think it applies to people in poverty. The chance of the child dying in poverty due to the poverty,!! not having awful irresponsible parents!! is barely if at all higher than any other child.
If the abortion is for a reason like incest, rape, or health of the mother/child I really have no problem with it.
I guess I just have a really really strong disgust for irresponsible people.
User avatar #188 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
"I guess I just have a really really strong disgust for irresponsible people."

Ironically, since you're way more irresponsible for wanting to have a child no matter the circumstances, even though that child will have a fucked up life.
YOU are the irresponsible one, because you only think about YOUR feels on the whole abortion stance, not about either the mother's feels or the child's feels.

Basically, it boils down to
"I don't think abortions should be allowed"
"Well, why so?"
"I am against the principle, I don't like it"
"Well, fuck you then!"
User avatar #190 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
If you read what I said you would know that I think they should be allowed. I am against the principle of it, but my morals don't dictate law.
There is NO guarantee that the child will have a fucked up life. Make up all the scenarios you want there is no guarantee.
That is hypocritical, YOU disregard the child's feelings and instead YOU assume that it will wish it was dead. And it isn't irresponsible even *IF* I didn't think think about their feelings, it's a lack of empathy.
User avatar #191 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
I did NOT assume that the child will wish he/she would rather be dead.

And it IS irresponsible because your child is YOUR responsibility. And honestly, there are so many social cases in which a family or three (or four) can barely make a living and the child has so many cases of becoming a failure (which can lead to even more bad shit, such as entering more-or-less organized crime circles) because they can't afford a proper education, not only in the US mind you, it's really astounding you did not think of all this.

Basically, if you can't fucking afford raising a child, don't have one. You're doing to yourself, the child and the society a huge fucking favor.
User avatar #200 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Your argument is all over the place, I'll try to address it the best I can.
If the child wouldn't wish itself dead then how are you doing it a favor by aborting it?
As for the whole feels thing, I didn't think you meant my potential child and its mother, just any mother and her potential child. If it was my baby-mom(for lack of a better term) and she was insistent on getting an abortion then there isn't anything I can do, my potential kid is down a drain somewhere and I'd cut all ties with the baby-mom.
And yes, I know being born in poverty is unfair and your life will probably be somewhat harder that others, but that's life.

Just to clarify: I think abortions should be legal, but I have no respect for those who get them. If you are a responsible person you either a) use plenty of protection/morning after pills to stop the pregnancy from happening or b) Have the kid and take care of it. It won't be easy but if you are a decent person and you really try you can make do. If you are an irresponsible person you either a) get an abortion or b) have the kid and neglect it. I would have the same lack of respect for someone who gets an abortion as a neglectful parent.
#157 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
If you don't want a baby, you don't want a baby and shouldn't have the baby. The only reason they even say they're glad is that they know they're alive; you don't know you're alive as a fetus. You're a fetus. You not existing will make literally no difference.
User avatar #160 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Same with people in comas am I right?
#163 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
A person in a coma is already experiencing life, and for one his death might actually matter to whoever cares about him. A mother getting an abortion doesn't care about the fetus, and nobody's going to care about a dead fetus anyway.
User avatar #169 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I would if it was my "fetus".
We aren't going to come to an agreement because we are both set in our ways, and it doesn't really matter anyways because we agree on the legality of it. Get your abortions, default on your loans, blame the guy next to you, cheat on your spouse, it's all legal and hey, it should be. I'm still going to disagree with you and your lifestyle. It shows a massive lack of responsibility and chances are I would have no respect for you.
I say "we" as in myself and someone who does any of the above I said, not you specifically.
#193 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
But you wouldn't be able to care, you're a fetus.

I think paying for the abortion and having to undergo the operation is responsibility enough for learning from your mistakes. A whole life to be responsible for as a result of not being careful enough during sex is way too much to ask anyone to be responsible for.
User avatar #201 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I meant as if I was the father. I would be extremely upset that my potential child was down a drain somewhere and would cut all ties with the "mother".

And this is where we disagree. You sacrifice a potential child because you fucked up (no pun intended). That's fine in your book, not in mine. Can't be helped.
#73 - What makes it OK to kill a fetus is not wanting to or being ab…  [+] (23 new replies) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! -4
User avatar #403 - commontroll (03/08/2014) [-]
Ah yes, thus we should kill people when they're fifty, to avoid the worst of their decent into being senile and decrepit.
User avatar #78 - MasterManiac (03/08/2014) [-]
If you can make the decision to kill a foetus and carry it out then you are more than capable of getting and using contraceptives in the first place. Of course there are cases when it can be justified (eg. rape) but otherwise it is really inexcusable.
#239 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
People are arguing abortion to excuse their moronic behavior. I don't think abortion should NOT be used. It should be an option. However, if you are just irresponsible as shit and get knocked up 24/7, you don't deserve that abortion, they will just use Abortion as a form of birth control when its not intended as such.
#98 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
Contraceptives aren't always 100% reliable (especially in the case of condoms) for one, and for two even if you didn't take the precaution the end result is a little much of a responsibility and a burden for just being silly enough to have unprotected sex - or think the risk is worth the sex.

Also imagine the impact of being raised by a mother who didn't want to have you would be. I'd honestly rather be killed as a fetus than that.
#136 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
you can always put the kid up for adoption. Who are you to deny it life? You were the irresponsible one who got pregnant without wanting a child in the first place. If it was rape or incest i understand but there are consequences to being irresponsible and it's unfair to the child to be murdered
#149 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
How can you call it murder if the child doesn't even realize it's being killed?
How can you call it murder if it's not self aware?
#340 - zendir (03/08/2014) [-]
What if someone went crazy and decided you looked like a nice first victim and shot you in the fucking head. You did not even realize you were being killed.
#436 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
Irrelevant situation.
#198 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah we should allow abortion until the child hits the age of 1 year old. I mean 3 month olds don't even know they are being killed nor are they self aware!
#153 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
And furthermore, how is it responsible to accept a kid you don't want to raise? Force a child to be up for adoption? Who are you to dictate that?
User avatar #118 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
God I can't stand the whole "I'm sparing the baby" argument for abortion. You aren't thinking about the baby's life when you decide to get an abortion, you are thinking of yourself. You don't want the responsibility of having a child so you take the easy way out. I can guarantee if they polled people who were raised by mothers who during their pregnancy didn't want them the amount who said they are glad they were given a chance at life would be pretty much the same as a control group.
That being said, I think abortion should be legal. I would never want my significant other to get one and would fight them about it if it was an issue, but my personal opinion doesn't dictate law.
I underlined "during their pregnancy" because a lot of mothers love their children once they are born even if they didn't want it before.
User avatar #176 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
Then do please tell me, Einstein, if your child, while still a fetus, is diagnosed with a horrible disease that will kill him in several years...
Would you not spare yourself AND the soon-to-be child from all the pain and suffering?! Do you not think that it is the most humane thing to NOT allow such a child to have to go through all that?

Doesn't this apply, albeit to a lesser extent, to those who are not in a position to raise their child properly i.e. are still in poverty and can't yet be truly independent?!
Are you even aware of how much of a cost a child actually is, if you want your fucking OFFSPRING, your most precious thing in life, to have the best you can give to him, so that they will become AT LEAST as successful as you are?!
User avatar #185 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I know how hard it is raising a child on a tight budget. My niece was born when my brother was 18 and her mother was 16. He worked full time and took out loans to pay for college and the mother got a job in nursing. Watching them has only reassured my stance on this whole thing.
As for the hypothetical scenario where the child is diagnosed with an illness, I would still opt to have the child. There is no way that they could 100% guarantee that the child would die, and at the point where they could diagnose something like that the baby would already be very very developed, you don't get an early term abortion over something like that, and that's chiefly what I'm against.
And even though I don't agree with your point in the first place, I still don't think it applies to people in poverty. The chance of the child dying in poverty due to the poverty,!! not having awful irresponsible parents!! is barely if at all higher than any other child.
If the abortion is for a reason like incest, rape, or health of the mother/child I really have no problem with it.
I guess I just have a really really strong disgust for irresponsible people.
User avatar #188 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
"I guess I just have a really really strong disgust for irresponsible people."

Ironically, since you're way more irresponsible for wanting to have a child no matter the circumstances, even though that child will have a fucked up life.
YOU are the irresponsible one, because you only think about YOUR feels on the whole abortion stance, not about either the mother's feels or the child's feels.

Basically, it boils down to
"I don't think abortions should be allowed"
"Well, why so?"
"I am against the principle, I don't like it"
"Well, fuck you then!"
User avatar #190 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
If you read what I said you would know that I think they should be allowed. I am against the principle of it, but my morals don't dictate law.
There is NO guarantee that the child will have a fucked up life. Make up all the scenarios you want there is no guarantee.
That is hypocritical, YOU disregard the child's feelings and instead YOU assume that it will wish it was dead. And it isn't irresponsible even *IF* I didn't think think about their feelings, it's a lack of empathy.
User avatar #191 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
I did NOT assume that the child will wish he/she would rather be dead.

And it IS irresponsible because your child is YOUR responsibility. And honestly, there are so many social cases in which a family or three (or four) can barely make a living and the child has so many cases of becoming a failure (which can lead to even more bad shit, such as entering more-or-less organized crime circles) because they can't afford a proper education, not only in the US mind you, it's really astounding you did not think of all this.

Basically, if you can't fucking afford raising a child, don't have one. You're doing to yourself, the child and the society a huge fucking favor.
User avatar #200 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Your argument is all over the place, I'll try to address it the best I can.
If the child wouldn't wish itself dead then how are you doing it a favor by aborting it?
As for the whole feels thing, I didn't think you meant my potential child and its mother, just any mother and her potential child. If it was my baby-mom(for lack of a better term) and she was insistent on getting an abortion then there isn't anything I can do, my potential kid is down a drain somewhere and I'd cut all ties with the baby-mom.
And yes, I know being born in poverty is unfair and your life will probably be somewhat harder that others, but that's life.

Just to clarify: I think abortions should be legal, but I have no respect for those who get them. If you are a responsible person you either a) use plenty of protection/morning after pills to stop the pregnancy from happening or b) Have the kid and take care of it. It won't be easy but if you are a decent person and you really try you can make do. If you are an irresponsible person you either a) get an abortion or b) have the kid and neglect it. I would have the same lack of respect for someone who gets an abortion as a neglectful parent.
#157 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
If you don't want a baby, you don't want a baby and shouldn't have the baby. The only reason they even say they're glad is that they know they're alive; you don't know you're alive as a fetus. You're a fetus. You not existing will make literally no difference.
User avatar #160 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Same with people in comas am I right?
#163 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
A person in a coma is already experiencing life, and for one his death might actually matter to whoever cares about him. A mother getting an abortion doesn't care about the fetus, and nobody's going to care about a dead fetus anyway.
User avatar #169 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I would if it was my "fetus".
We aren't going to come to an agreement because we are both set in our ways, and it doesn't really matter anyways because we agree on the legality of it. Get your abortions, default on your loans, blame the guy next to you, cheat on your spouse, it's all legal and hey, it should be. I'm still going to disagree with you and your lifestyle. It shows a massive lack of responsibility and chances are I would have no respect for you.
I say "we" as in myself and someone who does any of the above I said, not you specifically.
#193 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
But you wouldn't be able to care, you're a fetus.

I think paying for the abortion and having to undergo the operation is responsibility enough for learning from your mistakes. A whole life to be responsible for as a result of not being careful enough during sex is way too much to ask anyone to be responsible for.
User avatar #201 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I meant as if I was the father. I would be extremely upset that my potential child was down a drain somewhere and would cut all ties with the "mother".

And this is where we disagree. You sacrifice a potential child because you fucked up (no pun intended). That's fine in your book, not in mine. Can't be helped.
#63 - But that's an entirely different situation. One's already full…  [+] (26 new replies) 03/08/2014 on Fetus vs Baby!! -8
#126 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
but a fetus isn't guaranteed a life. There can still be natural miscarriages and whatnot
User avatar #71 - MasterManiac (03/08/2014) [-]
Then repeat the experiment with a 20 year old and a 60 year old. It'll still be the 20 year old getting chosen. And of course it's a different situation, because there are lots of differences between babies, foeti and the elderly. Just because you may value one over the others doesn't make it ok to kill them.
#73 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
What makes it OK to kill a fetus is not wanting to or being able to raise it and getting it over with before it's fully developed into a human baby, to avoid the worst of it.
User avatar #403 - commontroll (03/08/2014) [-]
Ah yes, thus we should kill people when they're fifty, to avoid the worst of their decent into being senile and decrepit.
User avatar #78 - MasterManiac (03/08/2014) [-]
If you can make the decision to kill a foetus and carry it out then you are more than capable of getting and using contraceptives in the first place. Of course there are cases when it can be justified (eg. rape) but otherwise it is really inexcusable.
#239 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
People are arguing abortion to excuse their moronic behavior. I don't think abortion should NOT be used. It should be an option. However, if you are just irresponsible as shit and get knocked up 24/7, you don't deserve that abortion, they will just use Abortion as a form of birth control when its not intended as such.
#98 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
Contraceptives aren't always 100% reliable (especially in the case of condoms) for one, and for two even if you didn't take the precaution the end result is a little much of a responsibility and a burden for just being silly enough to have unprotected sex - or think the risk is worth the sex.

Also imagine the impact of being raised by a mother who didn't want to have you would be. I'd honestly rather be killed as a fetus than that.
#136 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
you can always put the kid up for adoption. Who are you to deny it life? You were the irresponsible one who got pregnant without wanting a child in the first place. If it was rape or incest i understand but there are consequences to being irresponsible and it's unfair to the child to be murdered
#149 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
How can you call it murder if the child doesn't even realize it's being killed?
How can you call it murder if it's not self aware?
#340 - zendir (03/08/2014) [-]
What if someone went crazy and decided you looked like a nice first victim and shot you in the fucking head. You did not even realize you were being killed.
#436 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
Irrelevant situation.
#198 - mr skeltal (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah we should allow abortion until the child hits the age of 1 year old. I mean 3 month olds don't even know they are being killed nor are they self aware!
#153 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
And furthermore, how is it responsible to accept a kid you don't want to raise? Force a child to be up for adoption? Who are you to dictate that?
User avatar #118 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
God I can't stand the whole "I'm sparing the baby" argument for abortion. You aren't thinking about the baby's life when you decide to get an abortion, you are thinking of yourself. You don't want the responsibility of having a child so you take the easy way out. I can guarantee if they polled people who were raised by mothers who during their pregnancy didn't want them the amount who said they are glad they were given a chance at life would be pretty much the same as a control group.
That being said, I think abortion should be legal. I would never want my significant other to get one and would fight them about it if it was an issue, but my personal opinion doesn't dictate law.
I underlined "during their pregnancy" because a lot of mothers love their children once they are born even if they didn't want it before.
User avatar #176 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
Then do please tell me, Einstein, if your child, while still a fetus, is diagnosed with a horrible disease that will kill him in several years...
Would you not spare yourself AND the soon-to-be child from all the pain and suffering?! Do you not think that it is the most humane thing to NOT allow such a child to have to go through all that?

Doesn't this apply, albeit to a lesser extent, to those who are not in a position to raise their child properly i.e. are still in poverty and can't yet be truly independent?!
Are you even aware of how much of a cost a child actually is, if you want your fucking OFFSPRING, your most precious thing in life, to have the best you can give to him, so that they will become AT LEAST as successful as you are?!
User avatar #185 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I know how hard it is raising a child on a tight budget. My niece was born when my brother was 18 and her mother was 16. He worked full time and took out loans to pay for college and the mother got a job in nursing. Watching them has only reassured my stance on this whole thing.
As for the hypothetical scenario where the child is diagnosed with an illness, I would still opt to have the child. There is no way that they could 100% guarantee that the child would die, and at the point where they could diagnose something like that the baby would already be very very developed, you don't get an early term abortion over something like that, and that's chiefly what I'm against.
And even though I don't agree with your point in the first place, I still don't think it applies to people in poverty. The chance of the child dying in poverty due to the poverty,!! not having awful irresponsible parents!! is barely if at all higher than any other child.
If the abortion is for a reason like incest, rape, or health of the mother/child I really have no problem with it.
I guess I just have a really really strong disgust for irresponsible people.
User avatar #188 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
"I guess I just have a really really strong disgust for irresponsible people."

Ironically, since you're way more irresponsible for wanting to have a child no matter the circumstances, even though that child will have a fucked up life.
YOU are the irresponsible one, because you only think about YOUR feels on the whole abortion stance, not about either the mother's feels or the child's feels.

Basically, it boils down to
"I don't think abortions should be allowed"
"Well, why so?"
"I am against the principle, I don't like it"
"Well, fuck you then!"
User avatar #190 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
If you read what I said you would know that I think they should be allowed. I am against the principle of it, but my morals don't dictate law.
There is NO guarantee that the child will have a fucked up life. Make up all the scenarios you want there is no guarantee.
That is hypocritical, YOU disregard the child's feelings and instead YOU assume that it will wish it was dead. And it isn't irresponsible even *IF* I didn't think think about their feelings, it's a lack of empathy.
User avatar #191 - tkfourtwoone (03/08/2014) [-]
I did NOT assume that the child will wish he/she would rather be dead.

And it IS irresponsible because your child is YOUR responsibility. And honestly, there are so many social cases in which a family or three (or four) can barely make a living and the child has so many cases of becoming a failure (which can lead to even more bad shit, such as entering more-or-less organized crime circles) because they can't afford a proper education, not only in the US mind you, it's really astounding you did not think of all this.

Basically, if you can't fucking afford raising a child, don't have one. You're doing to yourself, the child and the society a huge fucking favor.
User avatar #200 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Your argument is all over the place, I'll try to address it the best I can.
If the child wouldn't wish itself dead then how are you doing it a favor by aborting it?
As for the whole feels thing, I didn't think you meant my potential child and its mother, just any mother and her potential child. If it was my baby-mom(for lack of a better term) and she was insistent on getting an abortion then there isn't anything I can do, my potential kid is down a drain somewhere and I'd cut all ties with the baby-mom.
And yes, I know being born in poverty is unfair and your life will probably be somewhat harder that others, but that's life.

Just to clarify: I think abortions should be legal, but I have no respect for those who get them. If you are a responsible person you either a) use plenty of protection/morning after pills to stop the pregnancy from happening or b) Have the kid and take care of it. It won't be easy but if you are a decent person and you really try you can make do. If you are an irresponsible person you either a) get an abortion or b) have the kid and neglect it. I would have the same lack of respect for someone who gets an abortion as a neglectful parent.
#157 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
If you don't want a baby, you don't want a baby and shouldn't have the baby. The only reason they even say they're glad is that they know they're alive; you don't know you're alive as a fetus. You're a fetus. You not existing will make literally no difference.
User avatar #160 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
Same with people in comas am I right?
#163 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
A person in a coma is already experiencing life, and for one his death might actually matter to whoever cares about him. A mother getting an abortion doesn't care about the fetus, and nobody's going to care about a dead fetus anyway.
User avatar #169 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I would if it was my "fetus".
We aren't going to come to an agreement because we are both set in our ways, and it doesn't really matter anyways because we agree on the legality of it. Get your abortions, default on your loans, blame the guy next to you, cheat on your spouse, it's all legal and hey, it should be. I'm still going to disagree with you and your lifestyle. It shows a massive lack of responsibility and chances are I would have no respect for you.
I say "we" as in myself and someone who does any of the above I said, not you specifically.
#193 - Lotias (03/08/2014) [-]
But you wouldn't be able to care, you're a fetus.

I think paying for the abortion and having to undergo the operation is responsibility enough for learning from your mistakes. A whole life to be responsible for as a result of not being careful enough during sex is way too much to ask anyone to be responsible for.
User avatar #201 - xxiixx (03/08/2014) [-]
I meant as if I was the father. I would be extremely upset that my potential child was down a drain somewhere and would cut all ties with the "mother".

And this is where we disagree. You sacrifice a potential child because you fucked up (no pun intended). That's fine in your book, not in mine. Can't be helped.
#50 - remember when dogs were as intelligent and capable of human ti…  [+] (6 new replies) 02/21/2014 on At the same location +22
#174 - WolfPrince (02/21/2014) [-]
Intelligence =/= Worth
If that was true we would value pigs more than dogs and our celebrities would all be scientists.
User avatar #103 - SCREWTHERULES (02/21/2014) [-]
THey are not intelligent as us. THey are self aware and conscious beings. If you have ever owned a dog and actually paid attention to it you would know that.
#67 - rdobet (02/21/2014) [-]
remember when humans were as strong and capable of ant tier lifting
me neither.
#93 - lamarisagoodname (02/21/2014) [-]
ants don't have lungs or fat deposits or other organs like we do, they're literally almost entirely contractile tissue so of course they're going to carry a lot more than they weigh. it's the equivalent of you being made up entirely of muscle, no brain or fat or complex intestines or a heart

hercules beetle is stronger than an ant too.
#153 - rdobet (02/21/2014) [-]
Jeez it was a joke man, I was just pointing out how dumb it was to measure a dog's worth by some arbitrary standard about 2 other animals even have chances of passing.

I figured less people would understand the joke. also Hercules Beetle Tier lifting is kind of a mouthful.
#129 - mr skeltal (02/21/2014) [-]
also remember the square-cube law, all animals at that size have similar lifting and mobility capabilities, even mammals
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