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#74 - Comment deleted 08/01/2012 on Fuck yeah, Pikachu. 0
#334 - I don't fully believe this actually OP, but whatever, cool stu… 07/30/2012 on Never get married :/ 0
#5661 - Comment deleted 07/29/2012 on Do it. I fucking dare you. 0
#5642 - Comment deleted  [+] (2 new replies) 07/29/2012 on Do it. I fucking dare you. +1
#5653 - dastuke Comment deleted by JHoYouKnow
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#117 - I'm pretty sure this is from cracked... 07/28/2012 on Movie Poster Cliches +1
#173 - HAHAHAHA, only bronies would defend bieber... ******** .  [+] (1 new reply) 07/27/2012 on holster your fuuuuuus bronys +8
#185 - mrsirius (07/27/2012) [-]
ok maybe he is being protected
by whom
no matter what any one says every one is going to judge him
why because Justin bieber has had it way to easy no scaring of any kind
the media maid him this way a tool for merchandise nothing else why because dumb teenage girls like him way to much. At one point where no one knew Justin beiber he was a good kid why because he was not famous.
Now his just a faggot in every ones eye's and i can see why.
His a sell out nothing else.
What "OP" is trying to say is that by him being in the brony community does not make every one a faggot.
#52 - Tried. Realized that I had too full a bank account to play as…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/26/2012 on Some of us never stopped... 0
User avatar #55 - agingpharmacist (07/27/2012) [-]
I logged on again. Realized that my once valuable pieces of armor are worth one tenth of what they where worth, my bank is full, it seems like just about every city has changed, and I can't figure out most of the new buttons on the interface.
#1110 - Dude... punctuation? Also, I think you forgot a word.  [+] (1 new reply) 07/26/2012 on IT FINALLY HAPPENED +2
User avatar #1111 - sorcha (07/26/2012) [-]
yep realised that after i hit reply but you understood what i meant
#19 - Comment deleted  [+] (1 new reply) 07/21/2012 on OP delivers +8
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#128 - **JHoYouKnow rolls 492** time for a mini workout 07/20/2012 on Do you? 0
#38 - Thanks guys. Guess I need to replay that one.  [+] (1 new reply) 07/20/2012 on Assassin Feels. +1
#39 - imanassassin (07/20/2012) [-]
Nessun problema, mio fratello.
#16 - Who was he? Or, at least, what game?  [+] (5 new replies) 07/20/2012 on Assassin Feels. +1
User avatar #18 - Happybean (07/20/2012) [-]
Revelations. He is the main man in the Brotherhood Constantinople.
User avatar #19 - Happybean (07/20/2012) [-]
*in

And I was beaten to it by a hair's breadth...
#17 - imanassassin (07/20/2012) [-]
He was the first main character you encounter in Assassin's Creed Revelations.
User avatar #38 - JHoYouKnow (07/20/2012) [-]
Thanks guys. Guess I need to replay that one.
#39 - imanassassin (07/20/2012) [-]
Nessun problema, mio fratello.
#14 - I've played all the assassin's creed. Religiously. Why don't…  [+] (7 new replies) 07/20/2012 on Assassin Feels. +1
#15 - imanassassin (07/20/2012) [-]
Probably because you didn't see him a whole lot.
User avatar #16 - JHoYouKnow (07/20/2012) [-]
Who was he? Or, at least, what game?
User avatar #18 - Happybean (07/20/2012) [-]
Revelations. He is the main man in the Brotherhood Constantinople.
User avatar #19 - Happybean (07/20/2012) [-]
*in

And I was beaten to it by a hair's breadth...
#17 - imanassassin (07/20/2012) [-]
He was the first main character you encounter in Assassin's Creed Revelations.
User avatar #38 - JHoYouKnow (07/20/2012) [-]
Thanks guys. Guess I need to replay that one.
#39 - imanassassin (07/20/2012) [-]
Nessun problema, mio fratello.
#45 - How bad is it? I'm not even start. haha  [+] (1 new reply) 07/16/2012 on 90´ Bitches +3
User avatar #47 - bitchplzzz (07/16/2012) [-]
It was so bad I accidentally my sentence
#3868 - Finally, the last problem I want to elaborate on that I hav…  [+] (3 new replies) 07/11/2012 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #3898 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
I've actually had very good conversations on here, the best of which was with a Marxist too! I still have not given up hope that you change your mind on minimum wage law. Along with rent control laws and price ceilings for gas prices, they are terrible. Even if I still had liberal economic views, I would still strongly oppose these things- they make life much harder for the people they are trying to help.

I don't believe "in the corporation", I believe in the people as well. That's why I think that the people should have economic freedom. Let me point out some reasons that corporations become more monopolistic in the current economy rather than a free market one:
- Government lobbying creates benefits for big companies that put them above others (see link at the end of this paragraph). THis is one of the single worst problems with the government in America.
- Government bailouts (like for banks) are only given to very large corporations. This means those banks or companies can do whatever they like and still get bailed out, this happened to Bear Stearns, AIG, and Lehman brothers (except the Fed erroneously let Lehman Brothers fall, causing the market to be even more unstable). Another consequence is that companies start merging because they want to be bigger so they are guaranteed to be bailed out.
- GSE's or "Government Sponsored Enterprises" are companies, similar to the USPS that are run largely by the government. A good example of GSE's ruining the economy are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - the mortgage giants. The two companies consistently loose money every year (2 of the few countries in the fortune 500 that have a negative profit). Regardless of how badly they're run, they will always be bailed out by the government. Not only that, but they were also two of the biggest causes of the sub-prime mortgage crisis.

Here is a link to the 60 minutes episode I was talking about:

www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7387331n&tag=contentMain;contentBody
User avatar #3901 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
As for libertarians, you don't know any really good ones to base an opinion. I like Ron Paul a lot, but mostly because he is not a typical politician- he stands up for what he believes in, even if I don't always agree. Also, he does have many many books, and they're actually completely history-based and I think you would find much more merit in those arguments. I read the bullet points of the article.. some of it is bull shit and some of it is true. Obviously the abortion on is true and I do not agree with him on it, along with some of the others. But let me present you this link to a Ron Paul video to discount the thought of him being "racist". Maybe he is deep down, but just because he opposes affirmative action doesn't mean he is:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtPzOukjZA

Take it or leave it, the video just almost brings tears to my eyes. If you want to real libertarian economics see F.A. Hayek, Ludwig Von Mises, Milton Friedman, and Ayn Rand.
User avatar #3902 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Also, I'm voting for Gary Johnson, not Paul.
#3867 - This is probably the nicest discussion I've had with an intell…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/11/2012 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #3868 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]

Finally, the last problem I want to elaborate on that I have with Libertarians (wow that was worded badly), is Ron Paul. IDK if you like or dislike him (let me know), but from what I've seen and heard from both him and his (crazier) supporters is fucking ludicrous. He's racist, anti-Semitic, and plain out crazy in some of his beliefs... Then I see his fans (usually I try not to hate someone for their fans, but this goes beyond normal) writing all these crazy conspiracy theories about how he secretly won all the primaries and the media is afraid to admit it.

I'll give you a link to someone describing his crazier points. I don't blame you for not clicking it, I usually don't when I see one:
www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/
User avatar #3898 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
I've actually had very good conversations on here, the best of which was with a Marxist too! I still have not given up hope that you change your mind on minimum wage law. Along with rent control laws and price ceilings for gas prices, they are terrible. Even if I still had liberal economic views, I would still strongly oppose these things- they make life much harder for the people they are trying to help.

I don't believe "in the corporation", I believe in the people as well. That's why I think that the people should have economic freedom. Let me point out some reasons that corporations become more monopolistic in the current economy rather than a free market one:
- Government lobbying creates benefits for big companies that put them above others (see link at the end of this paragraph). THis is one of the single worst problems with the government in America.
- Government bailouts (like for banks) are only given to very large corporations. This means those banks or companies can do whatever they like and still get bailed out, this happened to Bear Stearns, AIG, and Lehman brothers (except the Fed erroneously let Lehman Brothers fall, causing the market to be even more unstable). Another consequence is that companies start merging because they want to be bigger so they are guaranteed to be bailed out.
- GSE's or "Government Sponsored Enterprises" are companies, similar to the USPS that are run largely by the government. A good example of GSE's ruining the economy are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - the mortgage giants. The two companies consistently loose money every year (2 of the few countries in the fortune 500 that have a negative profit). Regardless of how badly they're run, they will always be bailed out by the government. Not only that, but they were also two of the biggest causes of the sub-prime mortgage crisis.

Here is a link to the 60 minutes episode I was talking about:

www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7387331n&tag=contentMain;contentBody
User avatar #3901 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
As for libertarians, you don't know any really good ones to base an opinion. I like Ron Paul a lot, but mostly because he is not a typical politician- he stands up for what he believes in, even if I don't always agree. Also, he does have many many books, and they're actually completely history-based and I think you would find much more merit in those arguments. I read the bullet points of the article.. some of it is bull shit and some of it is true. Obviously the abortion on is true and I do not agree with him on it, along with some of the others. But let me present you this link to a Ron Paul video to discount the thought of him being "racist". Maybe he is deep down, but just because he opposes affirmative action doesn't mean he is:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtPzOukjZA

Take it or leave it, the video just almost brings tears to my eyes. If you want to real libertarian economics see F.A. Hayek, Ludwig Von Mises, Milton Friedman, and Ayn Rand.
User avatar #3902 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Also, I'm voting for Gary Johnson, not Paul.
#65 - That's actually awesome 07/11/2012 on Photoshop Pro +1
#3854 - With minimum wage I understand your point. My old gov teacher…  [+] (8 new replies) 07/11/2012 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #3857 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Okay I had never heard the "company's money" thing before, but let me try to address every point. For starters, I still think it is more important to have more people employed as opposed to less. What do you tell the person who loses their job because a minimum wage law is put in place? You basically create a surplus of people willing to give their labor, and if they can not find a job at all they will result to other means of making money. They are also not able to climb the corporate ladder if they are unemployed.

Employers offering "company money"? I'm not quite sure why you made this point... If someone agrees to work for "company money" then they are obviously consenting to it. No one has to accept a job.

Private companies are NOT easier to pay off. Want to know why? Competition, there would be multiple companies that would all set their own individual standards for food, if one company screws up then another company would catch it very quick because of competition. This kind of thing happens with accounting firms that audit companies all the time. Know who DOESN'T have competition? The U.S. Government (or any other government for that matter). And yes, the FDA is much more likely to be bought off by lobbyists, I saw an entire 60 minutes episode about it on Sunday (I can look for it if you want?).

I was talking about the USPS in the early 1900's. It used to have a monopoly on the postal service but was corrupt and inefficient so companies similar to UPS and FedEx started privately doing this, and they did a much better job. I'm not talking about the current times at all, I know this because I wrote a paper about monopolies last year.

(continued...)
User avatar #3859 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
A few things:

I believe liberalism is much more idealistic.

(1) Liberal economics is under the assumption that the reason there are problems with the economy is not because of problems with humans, but because the social institutions are flawed. The belief is that government can fix this. But the libertarian belief, shared by fiscal conservatives is that there are problems with the economy because humans are flawed (we are). That is why there are wealth differences, humans are not equal. The only problems with capitalism are the problems that exist in humans in the first place.

(2) Just because it is believed that government spending will help something, doesn't mean it is true. I view liberal economics as elitist because it is believed that government officials know how to allocate money better than the millions of citizens who are economically attached to these decisions. It has been proven throughout history that free market bear prosperity.
User avatar #3860 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
This is also a very bad statement:

"How could I possibly support myself when I'm unemployed if someone can pay me as little as they want?"

They can't. They can only pay you what you are willing to accept. They either pay you more or find someone else willing to work for that amount. If there is someone willing to work for 1 dollar, they are consenting to it, then why is that wrong?
User avatar #3867 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]
This is probably the nicest discussion I've had with an intelligent person opposed to me politically as well as any person on the internet. The problem is that neither of us are going to change (at least due to this conversation). Either way...

I'm going to try to sum up our differences...
You believe in the corporation and distrust the population, I believe in the people and distrust the corporation.
You look at a free market as the chance for open competition, which makes sense; but I feel as though the corporation has more power, without restrictions, than the people. When there are 300+ million people in America and what really ends up being <100 major companies (the number of which would shrink as one grows to the point of owning everything [probably Apple, unfortunately]) it is much easier for the small group of companies to band to together and create an artificial minimum wage, at something like $1/hour.

You've also stated multiple times that history has shown that the free market is the best. Starting with current world economics, the fastest growing economy at this moment is China; a country which, while having rudimentary free markets, is still a more Communist nation. If we instead choose to look at American history it is seen consistently that the time the country had the biggest gap between rich and poor was in early history, until somewhere around the start of the 20th century , when the focus was on keeping the government out of economics. It lead to the worst conditions for the working class, the most unsafe of any working conditions in history, the biggest monopolies putting a stranglehold on the consumer and the worker. It was only after WWII, when the government really stepped in to interfere with poor business practices that the economy had a strong upturn and the gap started closing.

(Continued)
User avatar #3868 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]

Finally, the last problem I want to elaborate on that I have with Libertarians (wow that was worded badly), is Ron Paul. IDK if you like or dislike him (let me know), but from what I've seen and heard from both him and his (crazier) supporters is fucking ludicrous. He's racist, anti-Semitic, and plain out crazy in some of his beliefs... Then I see his fans (usually I try not to hate someone for their fans, but this goes beyond normal) writing all these crazy conspiracy theories about how he secretly won all the primaries and the media is afraid to admit it.

I'll give you a link to someone describing his crazier points. I don't blame you for not clicking it, I usually don't when I see one:
www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/
User avatar #3898 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
I've actually had very good conversations on here, the best of which was with a Marxist too! I still have not given up hope that you change your mind on minimum wage law. Along with rent control laws and price ceilings for gas prices, they are terrible. Even if I still had liberal economic views, I would still strongly oppose these things- they make life much harder for the people they are trying to help.

I don't believe "in the corporation", I believe in the people as well. That's why I think that the people should have economic freedom. Let me point out some reasons that corporations become more monopolistic in the current economy rather than a free market one:
- Government lobbying creates benefits for big companies that put them above others (see link at the end of this paragraph). THis is one of the single worst problems with the government in America.
- Government bailouts (like for banks) are only given to very large corporations. This means those banks or companies can do whatever they like and still get bailed out, this happened to Bear Stearns, AIG, and Lehman brothers (except the Fed erroneously let Lehman Brothers fall, causing the market to be even more unstable). Another consequence is that companies start merging because they want to be bigger so they are guaranteed to be bailed out.
- GSE's or "Government Sponsored Enterprises" are companies, similar to the USPS that are run largely by the government. A good example of GSE's ruining the economy are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - the mortgage giants. The two companies consistently loose money every year (2 of the few countries in the fortune 500 that have a negative profit). Regardless of how badly they're run, they will always be bailed out by the government. Not only that, but they were also two of the biggest causes of the sub-prime mortgage crisis.

Here is a link to the 60 minutes episode I was talking about:

www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7387331n&tag=contentMain;contentBody
User avatar #3901 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
As for libertarians, you don't know any really good ones to base an opinion. I like Ron Paul a lot, but mostly because he is not a typical politician- he stands up for what he believes in, even if I don't always agree. Also, he does have many many books, and they're actually completely history-based and I think you would find much more merit in those arguments. I read the bullet points of the article.. some of it is bull shit and some of it is true. Obviously the abortion on is true and I do not agree with him on it, along with some of the others. But let me present you this link to a Ron Paul video to discount the thought of him being "racist". Maybe he is deep down, but just because he opposes affirmative action doesn't mean he is:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtPzOukjZA

Take it or leave it, the video just almost brings tears to my eyes. If you want to real libertarian economics see F.A. Hayek, Ludwig Von Mises, Milton Friedman, and Ayn Rand.
User avatar #3902 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Also, I'm voting for Gary Johnson, not Paul.
#12243 - Haha. Then, I suggest the first part. When I'm really bored … 07/11/2012 on Advice - love advice,... 0
#3850 - I don't know if you'll ever realize how much you just restored… 07/11/2012 on Politics - politics news,... +1
#12238 - No joke, solving a rubik's cube is obscenely easy with the int… 07/11/2012 on Advice - love advice,... +1
#103 - Can't tell if joke is lack of dinner... or lack of mom.  [+] (6 new replies) 07/11/2012 on Third world jokes +24
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User avatar #167 - emilychan (07/11/2012) [-]
which anime is that from?
User avatar #104 - knightpnyou (07/11/2012) [-]
why not both?
#111 - trollchildxy (07/11/2012) [-]
User avatar #149 - seffo (07/11/2012) [-]
how is that good?!
User avatar #179 - trollchildxy (07/12/2012) [-]
Because double the funny?!
#3848 - ... Did you guys even notice his username?  [+] (2 new replies) 07/11/2012 on Politics - politics news,... +2
#3849 - cockshitasshole (07/11/2012) [-]
They never do until they read their reply again.
User avatar #3850 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]
I don't know if you'll ever realize how much you just restored my faith in humanity. I literally was clicking my notifications thinking, "god damn, what insults and anger does this guy have to throw at me for calling him out?" Honestly, right now, you're my favorite person in the world for taking it in stride or at least not caring. Thank you.
#3847 - That is an idea I can kind of support (kind of like a governed…  [+] (11 new replies) 07/11/2012 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #3852 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Okay... That wasn't really "quick".
User avatar #3851 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
sorry sir, but your comment has VERY BAD economics. My head was spinning from it, let me point out a few things quickly- tell me if you want a more in-depth explanation.

1) Minimum Wage. Minimum wage helps the people who KEEP their jobs, because their wage goes up. However, how do employers deal with being legally required to pay people more? They hire less people. That means more people are unemployed, and I don't know about you, but having a job with a low wage is better than no job (believe me, this has an immense amount of research backing it, look it up). In addition, since employers hire less people, this allows them more of an opportunity to discriminate people when hiring employees. See a book by the economist Walter E. Williams (he is black) about this topic.

2) What makes you think if the FDA was eliminated that companies would just start doing whatever they like with foods and drugs? They wouldn't and I'll tell you why: because a private company could take the FDA's job and would do a MUCH more efficient job. There are very few things that the government does which a private institution could not.

3) Child labor... This is iffy. A child should be able to work if the child WANTS to I think, but obviously that is hard to determine. So I don't necessarily have a grievance with this what you wrote.

Keep this in mind: anything the government does is 40-60% less efficient as the free market. That includes if the FDA were replaced. The same thing happened with the United States Postal Service, which tried to hold an artificial monopoly on the market since it was government run. However, the service was so inefficient and had so much corruption that private companies soon took over the job much more efficiently.
User avatar #3854 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]
With minimum wage I understand your point. My old gov teacher (libertarian) used to say he opposed unemployment benefits as well as minimum wage, and that really confused me. How could I possibly support myself when I'm unemployed if someone can pay me as little as they want? Laissez-faire economics is what started this country and people (the working class) where living in the worst conditions, while the rich got richer. Another thing that springs to mind when I think about a lack of minimum wage is something that occurred in the past: a company would pay their employees in self printed money (something I want to mention in a second), that led to a system where the people where forced into the company's city to use the otherwise useless money they were payed.


Honestly, I'd never really thought about the fact that the FDA would be replaced with a private company. However, my immediate reaction was that a private company (especially with an uninvolved government) is much easier to pay off than a government funded corporation (please, try not to get to into the conspiracy theories, I believe/hope the government isn't actually paid off by certain companies).

Child labor could be a good thing, but it's bad mostly because it leads to forced child labor (usually by the parents).

I don't necessarily believe that the postal service failed because of private sector competition (Fed Ex has existed for quite awhile), but instead believe it's because of a booming internet and it's usage. The postal service was far and above the best when letters were still useful, they only have started to fall since the intervention of email, and can't compete for payments in respect to packages.

Much like most government's beginnings, a lot of your stuff is based in idealism. I base all these things on the two liberterians I've learned the most from, Ron Paul and my gov teacher the above are from my teacher. And I've heard a lot of weird things from Ron Paul...
User avatar #3857 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Okay I had never heard the "company's money" thing before, but let me try to address every point. For starters, I still think it is more important to have more people employed as opposed to less. What do you tell the person who loses their job because a minimum wage law is put in place? You basically create a surplus of people willing to give their labor, and if they can not find a job at all they will result to other means of making money. They are also not able to climb the corporate ladder if they are unemployed.

Employers offering "company money"? I'm not quite sure why you made this point... If someone agrees to work for "company money" then they are obviously consenting to it. No one has to accept a job.

Private companies are NOT easier to pay off. Want to know why? Competition, there would be multiple companies that would all set their own individual standards for food, if one company screws up then another company would catch it very quick because of competition. This kind of thing happens with accounting firms that audit companies all the time. Know who DOESN'T have competition? The U.S. Government (or any other government for that matter). And yes, the FDA is much more likely to be bought off by lobbyists, I saw an entire 60 minutes episode about it on Sunday (I can look for it if you want?).

I was talking about the USPS in the early 1900's. It used to have a monopoly on the postal service but was corrupt and inefficient so companies similar to UPS and FedEx started privately doing this, and they did a much better job. I'm not talking about the current times at all, I know this because I wrote a paper about monopolies last year.

(continued...)
User avatar #3859 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
A few things:

I believe liberalism is much more idealistic.

(1) Liberal economics is under the assumption that the reason there are problems with the economy is not because of problems with humans, but because the social institutions are flawed. The belief is that government can fix this. But the libertarian belief, shared by fiscal conservatives is that there are problems with the economy because humans are flawed (we are). That is why there are wealth differences, humans are not equal. The only problems with capitalism are the problems that exist in humans in the first place.

(2) Just because it is believed that government spending will help something, doesn't mean it is true. I view liberal economics as elitist because it is believed that government officials know how to allocate money better than the millions of citizens who are economically attached to these decisions. It has been proven throughout history that free market bear prosperity.
User avatar #3860 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
This is also a very bad statement:

"How could I possibly support myself when I'm unemployed if someone can pay me as little as they want?"

They can't. They can only pay you what you are willing to accept. They either pay you more or find someone else willing to work for that amount. If there is someone willing to work for 1 dollar, they are consenting to it, then why is that wrong?
User avatar #3867 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]
This is probably the nicest discussion I've had with an intelligent person opposed to me politically as well as any person on the internet. The problem is that neither of us are going to change (at least due to this conversation). Either way...

I'm going to try to sum up our differences...
You believe in the corporation and distrust the population, I believe in the people and distrust the corporation.
You look at a free market as the chance for open competition, which makes sense; but I feel as though the corporation has more power, without restrictions, than the people. When there are 300+ million people in America and what really ends up being <100 major companies (the number of which would shrink as one grows to the point of owning everything [probably Apple, unfortunately]) it is much easier for the small group of companies to band to together and create an artificial minimum wage, at something like $1/hour.

You've also stated multiple times that history has shown that the free market is the best. Starting with current world economics, the fastest growing economy at this moment is China; a country which, while having rudimentary free markets, is still a more Communist nation. If we instead choose to look at American history it is seen consistently that the time the country had the biggest gap between rich and poor was in early history, until somewhere around the start of the 20th century , when the focus was on keeping the government out of economics. It lead to the worst conditions for the working class, the most unsafe of any working conditions in history, the biggest monopolies putting a stranglehold on the consumer and the worker. It was only after WWII, when the government really stepped in to interfere with poor business practices that the economy had a strong upturn and the gap started closing.

(Continued)
User avatar #3868 - JHoYouKnow (07/11/2012) [-]

Finally, the last problem I want to elaborate on that I have with Libertarians (wow that was worded badly), is Ron Paul. IDK if you like or dislike him (let me know), but from what I've seen and heard from both him and his (crazier) supporters is fucking ludicrous. He's racist, anti-Semitic, and plain out crazy in some of his beliefs... Then I see his fans (usually I try not to hate someone for their fans, but this goes beyond normal) writing all these crazy conspiracy theories about how he secretly won all the primaries and the media is afraid to admit it.

I'll give you a link to someone describing his crazier points. I don't blame you for not clicking it, I usually don't when I see one:
www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/
User avatar #3898 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
I've actually had very good conversations on here, the best of which was with a Marxist too! I still have not given up hope that you change your mind on minimum wage law. Along with rent control laws and price ceilings for gas prices, they are terrible. Even if I still had liberal economic views, I would still strongly oppose these things- they make life much harder for the people they are trying to help.

I don't believe "in the corporation", I believe in the people as well. That's why I think that the people should have economic freedom. Let me point out some reasons that corporations become more monopolistic in the current economy rather than a free market one:
- Government lobbying creates benefits for big companies that put them above others (see link at the end of this paragraph). THis is one of the single worst problems with the government in America.
- Government bailouts (like for banks) are only given to very large corporations. This means those banks or companies can do whatever they like and still get bailed out, this happened to Bear Stearns, AIG, and Lehman brothers (except the Fed erroneously let Lehman Brothers fall, causing the market to be even more unstable). Another consequence is that companies start merging because they want to be bigger so they are guaranteed to be bailed out.
- GSE's or "Government Sponsored Enterprises" are companies, similar to the USPS that are run largely by the government. A good example of GSE's ruining the economy are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - the mortgage giants. The two companies consistently loose money every year (2 of the few countries in the fortune 500 that have a negative profit). Regardless of how badly they're run, they will always be bailed out by the government. Not only that, but they were also two of the biggest causes of the sub-prime mortgage crisis.

Here is a link to the 60 minutes episode I was talking about:

www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7387331n&tag=contentMain;contentBody
User avatar #3901 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
As for libertarians, you don't know any really good ones to base an opinion. I like Ron Paul a lot, but mostly because he is not a typical politician- he stands up for what he believes in, even if I don't always agree. Also, he does have many many books, and they're actually completely history-based and I think you would find much more merit in those arguments. I read the bullet points of the article.. some of it is bull shit and some of it is true. Obviously the abortion on is true and I do not agree with him on it, along with some of the others. But let me present you this link to a Ron Paul video to discount the thought of him being "racist". Maybe he is deep down, but just because he opposes affirmative action doesn't mean he is:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtPzOukjZA

Take it or leave it, the video just almost brings tears to my eyes. If you want to real libertarian economics see F.A. Hayek, Ludwig Von Mises, Milton Friedman, and Ayn Rand.
User avatar #3902 - airguitar (07/11/2012) [-]
Also, I'm voting for Gary Johnson, not Paul.
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