No, calling you a ''retard'', ''autist'' and a ''hypocrite', shows just how observant I am. You have acted in such a way as to fit you under such labels. You are the ignorant one here.

<-- Also, I reccomend you take this advice. The world will become a better place for all if you were to. :)

Really? Thats your comeback? Saying you never said thing while you just did? Then say I should kill myself? You call yourself a grown-up woman? Stop wasting my fucking time you lame 13 year old. Your not observant, your just making false claims and you are mad as hell.

YFW

Logging out after you lost the battle and replying as anonymous? How pathetic...

I was on a mobile device and was unable to login.

You completely ignore everything I say and only praise yourself. I didn't lost shit, you never even counterd. You just flamed.

You are a weak minded idiot who thinks you are the best in the world. Instead, you are a basement dwelling pony loving freak.

''basement dwelling pony loving freak.''

Shows just how much you know (nothing). Don't argue or judge that which you haven't got any understanding of. Learn your facts before you try to insult, it just makes you look like a fool otherwise.

Facts like? That MLP actually was made for small girls to teach them basic things like "Invite your friends to events" and "appreciate everything people do". Those facts?

Or the fact that it hit the wrong public? The fact there is porn of it? The fact that there is a NSFW board for it on FJ? The fact you are a fail troll? The fact you already insulted more people then me? The fact bronies have a high elitist thinking manner?

What facts?

The fact that you are wrong.

End.

Don't expect me to reply further, all you say (despite what ''logic'' you think may have in it) is void and null from now on. Any further rants from you will be ignored and no one will even take a second look, so don't waste your life trying to think of a way to justify the unjustifiable.

Wow, you lost and now you chicken out? God, you really are close-minded.

Again, trying to glorify yourself, thinking you are everything. "Is void and null from now on" You didnt even listen anyways because your ignorance was blocking your hearing.

You cant even explain why I am wrong, go back to being a fat basement dweller.

Well you obviously do care about those who watch it, otherwise you wouldn't spew spagetti everywhere whenever someone mentions ponies.

Last time I checked, autistic people are not a race of their own. Why the fuck would a show, which you stated was ''for small girls'' teach a grown woman anything? Are you a hypocrite, or just simply have no idea what you are talking about?

I'm not asking for any attention, retards like you are the ones giving us it...

Not once have I called myself a brony. I do not call myself anything specific just because I watch a specific TV show. You seem to be misinformed, or just completely arrogant.

I post pictures that I want to, and they are almost always relevant to the original topic.

It takes a special kind of autistic person to assume that I was ever making fun of autistic people. I was merely stating a fact... unless of course, you are something which should be made fun of?

You are ignorant as hell, you just conclude that I hate ponies because I hate people like you. You obviously are very upset because we don't accept your show here. Your just making false claims, I never "spew spagetti" when I see ponies, I move on. But you in particular are one hell of a douche, since you pick on everybody and think you stand above them.

Again, you are an asshole, because you are making fun of people that are "less" in your view. If you are a so called "woman", fucking show it.

Calling me a retard, autist and a hypocrite show how much of a douchebag you are.

No, calling you a ''retard'', ''autist'' and a ''hypocrite', shows just how observant I am. You have acted in such a way as to fit you under such labels. You are the ignorant one here.

<-- Also, I reccomend you take this advice. The world will become a better place for all if you were to. :)

Really? Thats your comeback? Saying you never said thing while you just did? Then say I should kill myself? You call yourself a grown-up woman? Stop wasting my fucking time you lame 13 year old. Your not observant, your just making false claims and you are mad as hell.

YFW

Logging out after you lost the battle and replying as anonymous? How pathetic...

I was on a mobile device and was unable to login.

You completely ignore everything I say and only praise yourself. I didn't lost shit, you never even counterd. You just flamed.

You are a weak minded idiot who thinks you are the best in the world. Instead, you are a basement dwelling pony loving freak.

''basement dwelling pony loving freak.''

Shows just how much you know (nothing). Don't argue or judge that which you haven't got any understanding of. Learn your facts before you try to insult, it just makes you look like a fool otherwise.

Facts like? That MLP actually was made for small girls to teach them basic things like "Invite your friends to events" and "appreciate everything people do". Those facts?

Or the fact that it hit the wrong public? The fact there is porn of it? The fact that there is a NSFW board for it on FJ? The fact you are a fail troll? The fact you already insulted more people then me? The fact bronies have a high elitist thinking manner?

What facts?

The fact that you are wrong.

End.

Don't expect me to reply further, all you say (despite what ''logic'' you think may have in it) is void and null from now on. Any further rants from you will be ignored and no one will even take a second look, so don't waste your life trying to think of a way to justify the unjustifiable.

Wow, you lost and now you chicken out? God, you really are close-minded.

Again, trying to glorify yourself, thinking you are everything. "Is void and null from now on" You didnt even listen anyways because your ignorance was blocking your hearing.

You cant even explain why I am wrong, go back to being a fat basement dweller.

I have dealt with the fact that we are outside it's target demographic. The people who need to ''grow up'' are those that give a fuck that we watch it. It takes a special kind of autism to throw a fit whenever you see a pony or someone enjoying themselves. Also, the only dedication to cartoon ponies seems to be from your end...

Give a fuck about peopl who watch it? I couldn't care less.

Why are you saying autism is bad? Are you a racist or something? I see your show tought you nothing.

I don't give a shit that you watch it. But I cant stand your kind of attention seeking morons.

"Hey, I watch a show, I give myself a name, I am more important then other people. Hey, give me attention. Hey? HEY, are you even listening! I AM A brony! I WATCH MLP!!!!!"

I don't call myself a Laganny, or a Gurreny. Nor do I go around using only Gurren Lagann reaction pics.

It takes a special kind of douchebag to make fun of autistic people.

Well you obviously do care about those who watch it, otherwise you wouldn't spew spagetti everywhere whenever someone mentions ponies.

Last time I checked, autistic people are not a race of their own. Why the fuck would a show, which you stated was ''for small girls'' teach a grown woman anything? Are you a hypocrite, or just simply have no idea what you are talking about?

I'm not asking for any attention, retards like you are the ones giving us it...

Not once have I called myself a brony. I do not call myself anything specific just because I watch a specific TV show. You seem to be misinformed, or just completely arrogant.

I post pictures that I want to, and they are almost always relevant to the original topic.

It takes a special kind of autistic person to assume that I was ever making fun of autistic people. I was merely stating a fact... unless of course, you are something which should be made fun of?

You are ignorant as hell, you just conclude that I hate ponies because I hate people like you. You obviously are very upset because we don't accept your show here. Your just making false claims, I never "spew spagetti" when I see ponies, I move on. But you in particular are one hell of a douche, since you pick on everybody and think you stand above them.

Again, you are an asshole, because you are making fun of people that are "less" in your view. If you are a so called "woman", fucking show it.

Calling me a retard, autist and a hypocrite show how much of a douchebag you are.

No, calling you a ''retard'', ''autist'' and a ''hypocrite', shows just how observant I am. You have acted in such a way as to fit you under such labels. You are the ignorant one here.

<-- Also, I reccomend you take this advice. The world will become a better place for all if you were to. :)

Really? Thats your comeback? Saying you never said thing while you just did? Then say I should kill myself? You call yourself a grown-up woman? Stop wasting my fucking time you lame 13 year old. Your not observant, your just making false claims and you are mad as hell.

YFW

Logging out after you lost the battle and replying as anonymous? How pathetic...

I was on a mobile device and was unable to login.

You completely ignore everything I say and only praise yourself. I didn't lost shit, you never even counterd. You just flamed.

You are a weak minded idiot who thinks you are the best in the world. Instead, you are a basement dwelling pony loving freak.

''basement dwelling pony loving freak.''

Shows just how much you know (nothing). Don't argue or judge that which you haven't got any understanding of. Learn your facts before you try to insult, it just makes you look like a fool otherwise.

Facts like? That MLP actually was made for small girls to teach them basic things like "Invite your friends to events" and "appreciate everything people do". Those facts?

Or the fact that it hit the wrong public? The fact there is porn of it? The fact that there is a NSFW board for it on FJ? The fact you are a fail troll? The fact you already insulted more people then me? The fact bronies have a high elitist thinking manner?

What facts?

The fact that you are wrong.

End.

Don't expect me to reply further, all you say (despite what ''logic'' you think may have in it) is void and null from now on. Any further rants from you will be ignored and no one will even take a second look, so don't waste your life trying to think of a way to justify the unjustifiable.

Wow, you lost and now you chicken out? God, you really are close-minded.

Again, trying to glorify yourself, thinking you are everything. "Is void and null from now on" You didnt even listen anyways because your ignorance was blocking your hearing.

You cant even explain why I am wrong, go back to being a fat basement dweller.

You are a prime example of an autistic manchild. See this, everybody! Someone who goes out of their way to spread hatred and suffering since they care so much about the happiness of others. You must be so pathetic if you must compare your own choice in media to that of others.

I feel sorry for you.

Really, you call us Autistic Manchildren and you say we are the pathetic ones?
God, grow up and deal with the fact that its for small girls.

How old are you, 12? You need to learn happiness and tolerance from a girls cartoon?

You must be pathetic, deticating your live to cartoon ponies. I should feel sorry for you instead.

I have dealt with the fact that we are outside it's target demographic. The people who need to ''grow up'' are those that give a fuck that we watch it. It takes a special kind of autism to throw a fit whenever you see a pony or someone enjoying themselves. Also, the only dedication to cartoon ponies seems to be from your end...

Give a fuck about peopl who watch it? I couldn't care less.

Why are you saying autism is bad? Are you a racist or something? I see your show tought you nothing.

I don't give a shit that you watch it. But I cant stand your kind of attention seeking morons.

"Hey, I watch a show, I give myself a name, I am more important then other people. Hey, give me attention. Hey? HEY, are you even listening! I AM A brony! I WATCH MLP!!!!!"

I don't call myself a Laganny, or a Gurreny. Nor do I go around using only Gurren Lagann reaction pics.

It takes a special kind of douchebag to make fun of autistic people.

Well you obviously do care about those who watch it, otherwise you wouldn't spew spagetti everywhere whenever someone mentions ponies.

Last time I checked, autistic people are not a race of their own. Why the fuck would a show, which you stated was ''for small girls'' teach a grown woman anything? Are you a hypocrite, or just simply have no idea what you are talking about?

I'm not asking for any attention, retards like you are the ones giving us it...

Not once have I called myself a brony. I do not call myself anything specific just because I watch a specific TV show. You seem to be misinformed, or just completely arrogant.

I post pictures that I want to, and they are almost always relevant to the original topic.

It takes a special kind of autistic person to assume that I was ever making fun of autistic people. I was merely stating a fact... unless of course, you are something which should be made fun of?

You are ignorant as hell, you just conclude that I hate ponies because I hate people like you. You obviously are very upset because we don't accept your show here. Your just making false claims, I never "spew spagetti" when I see ponies, I move on. But you in particular are one hell of a douche, since you pick on everybody and think you stand above them.

Again, you are an asshole, because you are making fun of people that are "less" in your view. If you are a so called "woman", fucking show it.

Calling me a retard, autist and a hypocrite show how much of a douchebag you are.

No, calling you a ''retard'', ''autist'' and a ''hypocrite', shows just how observant I am. You have acted in such a way as to fit you under such labels. You are the ignorant one here.

<-- Also, I reccomend you take this advice. The world will become a better place for all if you were to. :)

Really? Thats your comeback? Saying you never said thing while you just did? Then say I should kill myself? You call yourself a grown-up woman? Stop wasting my fucking time you lame 13 year old. Your not observant, your just making false claims and you are mad as hell.

YFW

Logging out after you lost the battle and replying as anonymous? How pathetic...

I was on a mobile device and was unable to login.

You completely ignore everything I say and only praise yourself. I didn't lost shit, you never even counterd. You just flamed.

You are a weak minded idiot who thinks you are the best in the world. Instead, you are a basement dwelling pony loving freak.

''basement dwelling pony loving freak.''

Shows just how much you know (nothing). Don't argue or judge that which you haven't got any understanding of. Learn your facts before you try to insult, it just makes you look like a fool otherwise.

Facts like? That MLP actually was made for small girls to teach them basic things like "Invite your friends to events" and "appreciate everything people do". Those facts?

Or the fact that it hit the wrong public? The fact there is porn of it? The fact that there is a NSFW board for it on FJ? The fact you are a fail troll? The fact you already insulted more people then me? The fact bronies have a high elitist thinking manner?

What facts?

The fact that you are wrong.

End.

Don't expect me to reply further, all you say (despite what ''logic'' you think may have in it) is void and null from now on. Any further rants from you will be ignored and no one will even take a second look, so don't waste your life trying to think of a way to justify the unjustifiable.

Wow, you lost and now you chicken out? God, you really are close-minded.

Again, trying to glorify yourself, thinking you are everything. "Is void and null from now on" You didnt even listen anyways because your ignorance was blocking your hearing.

You cant even explain why I am wrong, go back to being a fat basement dweller.

True, but have you ever seen a movie where Atheistzilla does anything wrong?

i don't like to be on camera

well legendaries are cool, but i find them a bit to strong to use

Yep, get a bidoof

>Playin Emerald
>Not using Blaziken
0/10
jk 5/10

>2013
>Not using Swampert

I have a Swampert, only its in my daycare.

>2013
>Imma let you finish but sceptile master race

bby giv me sum fuck.

**juspate gives sum fuc**

**demonicchimera givs mor fuk**

**juspate cums**

**demonicchimera jizzes on Juspate's face**

**juspate dies**

**demonicchimera continues fucking** Gotta enjoy it while it's warm.

I utterly despise Blaziken.

I made it a rule to never pick a starter I don't like.
Anyway, I liked all starters 'til gen 3, I didn't like Torchic and only found Mudkip mediocre. Then gen 4, I didn't really like any of them that much but I prefered Piplup to the others. I really don't like the gen 5 starters (but If I had to chose one I'd choose Snivy).

Blaziken sucks

If he sucks then how come he's in ubers?

Because he got Speed Boost.
Without it, he'd be RU at best.

And he would be my favorite in that tier if he was

You're not gonna use that competitively, I hope?

>Plays Emerald
>Doesn't use Patrat

Needs less zapdos and more bidoof

In Emerald, wat.

Yep, get a bidoof

Ehhh.. PvP it is 8/10
PvE it is 5/10
I don't really like Salamance or Zapdos and Ditto seems like a place holder
this is just my thought on it
This is my favorite PvE Sapphire/Emerald Team

**ecomp rolls 5** / 10

pretty good except zapdos. but that's me hating legendaries

Aww but I like Zapdos....

Its name is Zapie, I named him that way when I was 11 ;_;

well legendaries are cool, but i find them a bit to strong to use

>Ditto

Ditto is fucking amazing

7

Can you speak Japanese?

No, but its for my collection!

I just love retro pokemon games, especially Gen II!

>Crazy ass Asian language on box
no

Japanese, this is the original version of Pokemon Silver from Japan.

Can you speak Japanese?

No, but its for my collection!

I just love retro pokemon games, especially Gen II!

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

We don't know what happened before the big bang.

But why does it need a creator? Just because we don't know what was before the big bang doesn't mean there has to be a creator.

You know about the hypothesis that the universe will eventually collapse into a singularity again, causing another big bang?
That's one possibility. That maybe the universe is just another reincarnation in an endless chain universes.


"except you ofcourse"
Thank you, I try my best to keep an open mind

I like to use the "Unmoved mover" argument for that.

"Something that is in motion, must be moved by something. Something that is moving cannot move itself. So there must be an unmoved mover"

The unmoved mover would be God then.

And an endless chain is impossible. Because it has to start somewhere, doesn't matter how long it is, one would be the first.

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

"(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself) "
At the very least severely butthurt/annoyed. Come on, you can't deny that your comments give off an emotional state.

I don't know. I accept big bang cosmology as the best model we currently have to explain the origin of the current universe.

The big bang theory is that a huge explosion created the universe. Ofcourse, the explosion needed to come from somewhere.
It could not have created itself. ( A robot cannot assemble itself)
Where did it come from? nothingness?

Impossible since nothingness is really nothing, it has no energy values or really any feature.

Then how did it get there?
Thats where a creator comes in.

(AGAIN, I am annoyed because nobody really is discussing with an open mind, except you ofcourse.)

We don't know what happened before the big bang.

But why does it need a creator? Just because we don't know what was before the big bang doesn't mean there has to be a creator.

You know about the hypothesis that the universe will eventually collapse into a singularity again, causing another big bang?
That's one possibility. That maybe the universe is just another reincarnation in an endless chain universes.


"except you ofcourse"
Thank you, I try my best to keep an open mind

I like to use the "Unmoved mover" argument for that.

"Something that is in motion, must be moved by something. Something that is moving cannot move itself. So there must be an unmoved mover"

The unmoved mover would be God then.

And an endless chain is impossible. Because it has to start somewhere, doesn't matter how long it is, one would be the first.

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

i use the painting argument. not a strong argument in the case of scientific logic but a good philosophical thought starter and goes as follows: when you look at a painting you would not say "that's nice, but did anyone paint it?" when you see a painting, it is obvious someone imagined and subsequently created it. why then is it so hard for people to believe something or someone created the universe? on the same note, why the hell do people think they know everything about god like he or it is some physical manifestation rather than a metaphysical apparition? /rant
tl;dr? something created universe/ can't know what

" is not considerd silly because scientist came up with it. "
"I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking. "
This reeks of victim mentality, like you're emotionally hurt or somethnig.

I didn't realize you had a question. Seems to me like you're just venting a lot of anger

I am not emotionaly hurt, not even close.
The thing that is getting on my nerves is that people never ever normal discuss.

My question was: "How do you think the universe is created".

(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself)

"(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself) "
At the very least severely butthurt/annoyed. Come on, you can't deny that your comments give off an emotional state.

I don't know. I accept big bang cosmology as the best model we currently have to explain the origin of the current universe.

The big bang theory is that a huge explosion created the universe. Ofcourse, the explosion needed to come from somewhere.
It could not have created itself. ( A robot cannot assemble itself)
Where did it come from? nothingness?

Impossible since nothingness is really nothing, it has no energy values or really any feature.

Then how did it get there?
Thats where a creator comes in.

(AGAIN, I am annoyed because nobody really is discussing with an open mind, except you ofcourse.)

We don't know what happened before the big bang.

But why does it need a creator? Just because we don't know what was before the big bang doesn't mean there has to be a creator.

You know about the hypothesis that the universe will eventually collapse into a singularity again, causing another big bang?
That's one possibility. That maybe the universe is just another reincarnation in an endless chain universes.


"except you ofcourse"
Thank you, I try my best to keep an open mind

I like to use the "Unmoved mover" argument for that.

"Something that is in motion, must be moved by something. Something that is moving cannot move itself. So there must be an unmoved mover"

The unmoved mover would be God then.

And an endless chain is impossible. Because it has to start somewhere, doesn't matter how long it is, one would be the first.

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

Again a reason why people think you're silly.

It's not just because a scientist came up with it and not a religious person
You're going at this from an emotionally hurt angle, and your arguments show this.

Lose the "I am a victim" attitude, and I assure you your arguments will be better and more well-received by people of the opposite side.

You didn't answer me at all.

And I never had an "I am a victim", I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking.

Again, I am not even religous.
The only thing you say about my arguments is that they are silly and thats it.

i use the painting argument. not a strong argument in the case of scientific logic but a good philosophical thought starter and goes as follows: when you look at a painting you would not say "that's nice, but did anyone paint it?" when you see a painting, it is obvious someone imagined and subsequently created it. why then is it so hard for people to believe something or someone created the universe? on the same note, why the hell do people think they know everything about god like he or it is some physical manifestation rather than a metaphysical apparition? /rant
tl;dr? something created universe/ can't know what

" is not considerd silly because scientist came up with it. "
"I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking. "
This reeks of victim mentality, like you're emotionally hurt or somethnig.

I didn't realize you had a question. Seems to me like you're just venting a lot of anger

I am not emotionaly hurt, not even close.
The thing that is getting on my nerves is that people never ever normal discuss.

My question was: "How do you think the universe is created".

(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself)

"(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself) "
At the very least severely butthurt/annoyed. Come on, you can't deny that your comments give off an emotional state.

I don't know. I accept big bang cosmology as the best model we currently have to explain the origin of the current universe.

The big bang theory is that a huge explosion created the universe. Ofcourse, the explosion needed to come from somewhere.
It could not have created itself. ( A robot cannot assemble itself)
Where did it come from? nothingness?

Impossible since nothingness is really nothing, it has no energy values or really any feature.

Then how did it get there?
Thats where a creator comes in.

(AGAIN, I am annoyed because nobody really is discussing with an open mind, except you ofcourse.)

We don't know what happened before the big bang.

But why does it need a creator? Just because we don't know what was before the big bang doesn't mean there has to be a creator.

You know about the hypothesis that the universe will eventually collapse into a singularity again, causing another big bang?
That's one possibility. That maybe the universe is just another reincarnation in an endless chain universes.


"except you ofcourse"
Thank you, I try my best to keep an open mind

I like to use the "Unmoved mover" argument for that.

"Something that is in motion, must be moved by something. Something that is moving cannot move itself. So there must be an unmoved mover"

The unmoved mover would be God then.

And an endless chain is impossible. Because it has to start somewhere, doesn't matter how long it is, one would be the first.

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

It's because of arguments like the
"prove to me it doesn't exist"
"just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there"

These are silly arguments, because they lead nowhere.

I would argue that it will be logical to any entitty that 2+2=4
two rocks plus two rocks makes four rocks.

There's a reason why people doing research into communicating with aliens are working with math and binary. Because it will be understood by any creature.
As such, the logic that holds math together applies everywhere, and to everyone.

But when a huge explosion came from complete nothingness for no reason is not considerd silly because scientist came up with it.

Again a reason why people think you're silly.

It's not just because a scientist came up with it and not a religious person
You're going at this from an emotionally hurt angle, and your arguments show this.

Lose the "I am a victim" attitude, and I assure you your arguments will be better and more well-received by people of the opposite side.

You didn't answer me at all.

And I never had an "I am a victim", I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking.

Again, I am not even religous.
The only thing you say about my arguments is that they are silly and thats it.

i use the painting argument. not a strong argument in the case of scientific logic but a good philosophical thought starter and goes as follows: when you look at a painting you would not say "that's nice, but did anyone paint it?" when you see a painting, it is obvious someone imagined and subsequently created it. why then is it so hard for people to believe something or someone created the universe? on the same note, why the hell do people think they know everything about god like he or it is some physical manifestation rather than a metaphysical apparition? /rant
tl;dr? something created universe/ can't know what

" is not considerd silly because scientist came up with it. "
"I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking. "
This reeks of victim mentality, like you're emotionally hurt or somethnig.

I didn't realize you had a question. Seems to me like you're just venting a lot of anger

I am not emotionaly hurt, not even close.
The thing that is getting on my nerves is that people never ever normal discuss.

My question was: "How do you think the universe is created".

(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself)

"(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself) "
At the very least severely butthurt/annoyed. Come on, you can't deny that your comments give off an emotional state.

I don't know. I accept big bang cosmology as the best model we currently have to explain the origin of the current universe.

The big bang theory is that a huge explosion created the universe. Ofcourse, the explosion needed to come from somewhere.
It could not have created itself. ( A robot cannot assemble itself)
Where did it come from? nothingness?

Impossible since nothingness is really nothing, it has no energy values or really any feature.

Then how did it get there?
Thats where a creator comes in.

(AGAIN, I am annoyed because nobody really is discussing with an open mind, except you ofcourse.)

We don't know what happened before the big bang.

But why does it need a creator? Just because we don't know what was before the big bang doesn't mean there has to be a creator.

You know about the hypothesis that the universe will eventually collapse into a singularity again, causing another big bang?
That's one possibility. That maybe the universe is just another reincarnation in an endless chain universes.


"except you ofcourse"
Thank you, I try my best to keep an open mind

I like to use the "Unmoved mover" argument for that.

"Something that is in motion, must be moved by something. Something that is moving cannot move itself. So there must be an unmoved mover"

The unmoved mover would be God then.

And an endless chain is impossible. Because it has to start somewhere, doesn't matter how long it is, one would be the first.

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

It's a problem we can't currently solve.
Have you played Minecraft? Fiddled around with logic gates?

The real world is somewhat the same.
If we were all omniscient, everything that is logical to one would be logical to another.
The only variant in logic is one's own knowledge.

The more you know, the more "valid" your logic becomes.

Yes, but my knowledge is not accepted here. Its like everybody needs to believe the same thing or your an idiot.

Logic is created by humans, and would always be like that. If somebody comes up with something that does not fit in this so called logic, its stomped into the ground.

It's because of arguments like the
"prove to me it doesn't exist"
"just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there"

These are silly arguments, because they lead nowhere.

I would argue that it will be logical to any entitty that 2+2=4
two rocks plus two rocks makes four rocks.

There's a reason why people doing research into communicating with aliens are working with math and binary. Because it will be understood by any creature.
As such, the logic that holds math together applies everywhere, and to everyone.

But when a huge explosion came from complete nothingness for no reason is not considerd silly because scientist came up with it.

Again a reason why people think you're silly.

It's not just because a scientist came up with it and not a religious person
You're going at this from an emotionally hurt angle, and your arguments show this.

Lose the "I am a victim" attitude, and I assure you your arguments will be better and more well-received by people of the opposite side.

You didn't answer me at all.

And I never had an "I am a victim", I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking.

Again, I am not even religous.
The only thing you say about my arguments is that they are silly and thats it.

i use the painting argument. not a strong argument in the case of scientific logic but a good philosophical thought starter and goes as follows: when you look at a painting you would not say "that's nice, but did anyone paint it?" when you see a painting, it is obvious someone imagined and subsequently created it. why then is it so hard for people to believe something or someone created the universe? on the same note, why the hell do people think they know everything about god like he or it is some physical manifestation rather than a metaphysical apparition? /rant
tl;dr? something created universe/ can't know what

" is not considerd silly because scientist came up with it. "
"I never can have a normal discussion here without alot of people attacking. "
This reeks of victim mentality, like you're emotionally hurt or somethnig.

I didn't realize you had a question. Seems to me like you're just venting a lot of anger

I am not emotionaly hurt, not even close.
The thing that is getting on my nerves is that people never ever normal discuss.

My question was: "How do you think the universe is created".

(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself)

"(If you're gonna say "you are emotionally hurt" and say "you have no arguments", then keep it to yourself) "
At the very least severely butthurt/annoyed. Come on, you can't deny that your comments give off an emotional state.

I don't know. I accept big bang cosmology as the best model we currently have to explain the origin of the current universe.

The big bang theory is that a huge explosion created the universe. Ofcourse, the explosion needed to come from somewhere.
It could not have created itself. ( A robot cannot assemble itself)
Where did it come from? nothingness?

Impossible since nothingness is really nothing, it has no energy values or really any feature.

Then how did it get there?
Thats where a creator comes in.

(AGAIN, I am annoyed because nobody really is discussing with an open mind, except you ofcourse.)

We don't know what happened before the big bang.

But why does it need a creator? Just because we don't know what was before the big bang doesn't mean there has to be a creator.

You know about the hypothesis that the universe will eventually collapse into a singularity again, causing another big bang?
That's one possibility. That maybe the universe is just another reincarnation in an endless chain universes.


"except you ofcourse"
Thank you, I try my best to keep an open mind

I like to use the "Unmoved mover" argument for that.

"Something that is in motion, must be moved by something. Something that is moving cannot move itself. So there must be an unmoved mover"

The unmoved mover would be God then.

And an endless chain is impossible. Because it has to start somewhere, doesn't matter how long it is, one would be the first.

But you don't know that something has to start somewhere...
How could you?

It doesn't make sense to me, but it might be how things are.

Anyways, I must go now. Thanks for the discussion

"Define "prove"
If you mean 100% then there's no point in discussing it"

Thanks for the discussion, finally had one without bashing.

You are opening up a whole other argument which you will lose. Please don't. You can argue something jump started us but thinking that we were intelligently designed is laughable.