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>implying working full time means you can afford bills and food
Kek, I wish.
Meant to add:
I'm on food stamps at the moment too. Got off them for a while, then got laid off and now my new job pays three bucks less an hour. Without food stamps I would literally not eat despite working my ass off 40 hours a week digging ditches and shit.
Not if they have really low income job w/ lots of monthly payments or have a lot of family members to support
Here in Denmark, to recieve money from the government if youre jobless, you go to work at a local place which is "hired" by the government to take you on. Its mostly menial stuff like packaging toys and stuff. Basically work that isnt very profitable to have full time minimum wage employees doing. And since the government pays the salary almost in full, its a pretty good deal for them. The time I had to go, it was pretty chill overall. A whole mess of people who end up there for any period of time are people who have real troubles in their personal lives, and the chill approach to them applies to everyone.
I assume they will be forced to clean the streets and stuff in return for foodstamps. So they do some sory of work and recieve food stamps instead of doing no work for it.
Many people that work full time require food stamps to feed their families. This is especially the case for single income families with kids.
That's because of the "$15 dollars an hour?!" meme in america.
People talking shit like a living wage is too much to ask.
I'm my ass is working 40+ hours a week, i'd damn-well better be getting paid enough to feed myself and pay my rent+utilities, at bare minimum.
If I'm still broke and starving at the end of the week, then I'd have been better off sitting on my ass collecting dole.
I'd still be just as broke and starving, but at least I wouldn't be tired too.
I understand the "If you don't work, then you don't eat" mentality fine, but I could never wrap my head around why some people believe that even if you DO work full-time, unless it's a prestigious enough job, you
shouldn't be getting paid enough to eat.
Even street-sweepers and fry-cooks gotta eat food.
Unless you want your lowest-paying jobs to be staffed by homeless people eating out of fucking garbage cans, then you'd better fucking
15$ an hour meme in America? Wait what? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
Workers in america wanted the minimum wage to be raised to meet the 'living wage' (what you need to actually live on, per week.)
Some jackass decides to make a scene over the fact that that'd mean paying mcdonalds workers $15 an hour.
Idiots decided to run with it, saying that people who worked in food-service or in some other minimum-wage job didn't "deserve" to earn enough money to afford to eat food and pay rent.
I make $14 an hour. I work 40 hour weeks. I have enough money for food, rent, utilities, and a decent amount of play money. I understand minimum wage isn't a living wage. But there are jobs that don't require experience that pay 15+ an hour. You just have to be willing to work. And I mean,
. Not work at fast food or anything like that.
>Implying that standing in a roasting hot kitchen cooking food isn't a real job. That dealing with fucking asshole customers 11 hours a day isn't a 'real job'
Why is your labour work less just because you're cooking shitty Mcnuggets in a fast-food joint.
Is it different at a sit-down restaurant? Does the same work suddenly become a "real job" when the food you make isn't being sold for a dollar a dish?
So they planned to actually be sensible about minimum wage but scrapped the idea?
Minimum wage is like half of that over there isn't it?
They've got a minimum wage that you can't even eat off, and they've got even worse with the "tipped wage" (something like $2-5 an hour)
First off, the tipped wage needs to be abolished.
It's the reason why they treat you like trash if you don't leave a tip, because americans been brought up brainwashed to believe that it's the customers duty to pay the pizza-guy or waitresses job.
The manager, cook, chef or whoever gets paid a real wage (... sorta) by the business owner, but that same owner refuses to pay the waitresses, and somehow that's
If you don't willingly make up the difference out of your own pocket, then you're human trash and deserve to have your food spat in.
No I don't understand how or why they think this way, but
americans seem to. I've met maybe
american who realized how stupid and unfair that was.
For everyone else though, they seem to have a hardline "minimum wage" which they pay people with shitty jobs, (mcD workers, ect) and another, higher,
min-wage that they pay everyone who works a 'real' job.
minimum wage is seen as something for teenagers who don't pay bills and still live with their parents, and thus don't require 'real money'
The second one is the bare minimum required to live on, and it's paid to office-workers or other more 'respectable' jobs for 'working adults' who need to pay bills and buy their own food.
, fast-food jobs aren't all staffed by <20-year olds, and those that are that young don't all have people willing to support them.
But hey, if you work in mcdonalds them you must be either too lazy or too stupid to get a 'real job' right?
The divide between living and minimum wage seems to have come about based on the cost of living going up, but the minimum wage not rising in a decade or so.
Other jobs were forced to raise their wages above the minimum, just to fill seats.
Some try to scrape buy with absolute lowest costs though, which leads to people who work 60 hours a week and are somehow still collecting food-stamps due to their 'impoverished' status.
Why stop at $15? Let's just set it to $100. $1000. Why don't we just set the minimum wage to a million dollars per hour? That way no one is poor ever again. Hey you there, you flip burgers, here's a million dollars an hour. You're rich now, yay. By the way, bread costs $800,000 now.
Yup, that's exactly the retarded meme i was talking about.
Inflation is a retarded meme?
"Huh Duh, $15 dollars an hour, why not $500 dollars per hour?"
Like asking that your job pay enough to feed yo self is being absurd and unrealistic.
Inflation exists, which is the reason the wage needs to go up.
Shit costs more than it did ten years ago, but the people on the bottom rung are still being paid the same as they always were.
And people wonder why so many need food-stamps.
Okay, so you think prices will stay the same as the minimum wage goes up?
I think everyone elses wages have
already gone up
, as a natural result of inflation.
it's only the people on the bottom of the ladder who have no other options who're getting fucked by the minimum wage.
Prices, not wages. Like the price for bread and milk. I mean, I hope you understand basic math, but if you're spending more money than you make, you're operating at a loss. Find me one company in the world that willingly operates at a loss.
Now take that little bit of logic and go one step futher.
isn't willing to operate at a loss, why would an
Why would someone go out and work a 40-hour work-week if at the end of said week, they were paying out more money for food and housing than they were earning?
It's called the living wage for a reason, and anyone who works full-time should be making it.
Now, nobody's asking a business to operate at a loss. You don't have to pay each person $100 dollars an hour. (despite the rediculous meme)
Simply meet basic standards for paying your staff enough that they don't need goverment handouts to survive.
it'll ding your profits a little, but that's the cost of doing buisness.
Literally, in this case.
Paying your staff is one of the overhead costs of running a business. Suck it up.
If your profit-margin is so slim that you literally can't afford to pay your own staff, then its about time you threw in the towel and filed for bankrupcy anyway.
And no, when I said wages, I meant wages.
Prices went up, but the whole country didn't start starving. Everyone elses wages naturally rose to the point where they could still afford to buy shit despite the inflation. Because as the 'worth' of money went down, it means you required more of it to purchase anything.
Not just the food on the shelves, but also the labour of your employees.
Except the national minimum wage never went up, so any job that paid the old mimimum, continued to pay that. Even though it wasn't enough to live on anymore.
"What do you mean companies don't want to pay unskilled and uneducated workers the same amount they pay skilled labor?"
Nobody's asking them to pay the same amount that they pay for skilled labour, they're asking them to pay the bare minimum for their workers to not need government handouts to survive.
What's wrong with government handouts? A good majority of jobs quite literally only require you to have experience. So sit on handouts and work enough to not lose the handouts, and boom, you're experienced enough for a higher position. This system is really good since it discourages laziness. If you don't make strides to excel, yeah you're not going to be in a good position.
Goverment handouts and intended for people who aren't able to find work and support themselves.
If you're working full-time, you should be making enough money to support yourself.
Working full time and still requiring the government to give you food-money just means that whoever is employing you is ripping you off.
Even unskilled labourers are worth more than that.
40-hours a week should be enough to feed yourself, at bare minimum.
There's motherfuckers out there working 11-hour shifts every day and still on goddamn food-stamps. That's a fucking travesty.
They aint working in a chinese sweatshop, america is supposed to be a civilized country.
Yeah that's pretty retarded I gotta say.
Well, actually, I suppose that isn't true. Growing up, with a dad working full time in the military, my family needed WIC to get by. Not the same as food stamps I know, but whatever.
But still. I feel like in large part the purpose of food stamps is to keep people from starving between jobs.
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