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#49 - "this is what liberals ACTUALLY believe" Ba…  [+] (16 new replies) 07/25/2016 on this is what liberals... +15
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#76 - Sunset (07/25/2016) [-]
no
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#78 - Customer Services (07/25/2016) [-]
Yeah, faggot.
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#80 - Sunset (07/26/2016) [-]
nah
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#57 - lotengo (07/25/2016) [-]
Im pretty sure it was Hernie Sanders himself that stated that climate change is directly related to terrorism
#64 - elaxx (07/25/2016) [-]
No idea how it is directly related to terrorism but I can imagine how it is related to terrorism indirectly.

Eco-terrorism maybe.
#66 - lotengo (07/25/2016) [-]
#68 - elaxx (07/25/2016) [-]
Well, I agree with him on the point that the problem of resources could potentially bring a lot of mess in the future, it's a quite realistic issue, but while I could see it becoming an issue in the time to come I don't think it has such a significant impact on the terrorism today.

I would see climate change indirectly affecting terrorism through fossil fuels, most notably oil (oil issues, oil wars, instability in the ME, etc.) Those things are somewhat related.
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#69 - lotengo (07/25/2016) [-]
If poverty and crime are linked it is in the way of theft.
Blowing up your car or buying expensive guns to kill random people isn't profitable
#70 - elaxx (07/25/2016) [-]
Oil of the ME has been a subject of interest to many international actors since its very discovery. So the region was inherently influenced by them heavily, whether for power or simply profit, mostly by supporting certain people to keep them in power despite regional specifics and issues. Beside oil the Cold War was also a major factor in the regional development of the ME. Add to that inadequate political culture of the region, economic and social instability and you have an incubator for either authoritarianism or extremism, which we currently observe in the form of radical Islam. These fundamentalist movements are often promoted even by the key regional players such as Saudi Arabia, that puts a lot of effort into spreading wahhabism even beyond ME and supporting some extremist groups, or Iran, that is mostly known for support of extremist groups (interestingly enough both fighting each other for influence in the region, with the background of Sunni vs Shiite, in many ways similar to the USA vs USSR cold war, especially with the ongoing "proxy war" in Syria)

All in all we can all agree that the Middle East is a fucking mess. And although there are many things to consider, oil did play a significant role in all of this.
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#59 - Customer Services (07/25/2016) [-]
Still fits in my point. You can't fucking take one person opinion, even if it's a figure of the group and say "Here. Every single person in this group thinks exactly this.". I've been repeating this shit for the second time now.
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#60 - lotengo (07/25/2016) [-]
that one guy could have won the dem nomination if the system wasn't so rigged. He was the frontrunner in the age group below 30.
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#79 - Customer Services (07/25/2016) [-]
Simply because you vote for someone doesn't mean you agree with all their opinions and the absolute everything they said. Look at all the people voting Trump because they don't want Hillary to win. Do you think they agree even a quarter of Trump opinions? Aren't most of american saying they are picking "the lesser of two evils" this year? Which implies they doesn't agree with any of the candidate?

On the other hand, since you are too lazy to check out your sources before criticizing them just because on the first hand "they doesn't make sense", There is a possible explanation on why these may be at least CORRELATED.

"A 2014 Department of Defense report identifies climate change as the root of government instability that leads to widespread migration, damages infrastructure and leads to the spread of disease. “These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and conditions that foster terrorism,” the report says."

Source: time.com/4113801/climate-change-terrorism/

Either way, it is possible that scholar have observed a correlation between those two elements, which mean they have, at some point, a predictability that may not be perfect or even great, but significant. A correlation does not implies that one may directly causes the other, but that they are in some unknown way, related.
#55 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
butthurt leftists detected.
#56 - Customer Services (07/25/2016) [-]
2 pussy 2 login anon detected.
#51 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
Explain how its "bad for the environment" then
#52 - Customer Services (07/25/2016) [-]
I said this statement is retarded and does not represent the left wing and OP is a cunt to affirm it does. How am i supposed to explain something i do not agree with?
#8 - They must feel quite retarded. They look like four impatient c…  [+] (55 new replies) 07/25/2016 on fuck you, you declined +573
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#74 - advice (07/25/2016) [-]
on America's Got Talent they've seen enough of this stuff to know when to let it ride out
#12 - mitchem (07/25/2016) [-]
To be fair, this is supposed to be a stage performance.
#15 - waschbecken (07/25/2016) [-]
To be fair, she made an awesome stage performance, just not fast enough for the regular retard jury who wants to see drama and people getting nearly killed
#47 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
one girls "talent" was she was a laughing coach that believed her laugh was so contagious that it could be considered a talent. It wasn't
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#45 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
>>#8, you cant have a bloody show centered around watching a woman draw a picture for 10 minutes and then throw happy dust on it for the finale. they were right to drop her.
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#107 - ragingbrony (07/25/2016) [-]
Bob Ross
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#108 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
is not a stage performer.
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#109 - ragingbrony (07/25/2016) [-]
You said a show
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#110 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
i expected people reading this to be able to understand the concept of context.
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#111 - ragingbrony (07/25/2016) [-]
Entertainment is subjective.
Whether on a stage, or on TV.
The statement 'you can't have a show about....' is always going to be incorrect. (other than illegal stuff obviously)

You most certainly can have a stage performance of someone creating art.
Especially if it can be done in less than 2 minutes.
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#112 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
bob ross makes educational videos about painting on twitch youtube and earlier on: television. hence why people liked it. he also added dialogue and tips and tricks to keep the viewers interests as well as overall being so skilled that the painting he painted looked intriguing from the get go.


she painted boring picture with no added appeal to anything just for the last minute trick which in it self doesnt justify the amount of time he spent with the painting.
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#57 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
It was a minute and 30 seconds.

Not 10 minutes.

You are over exaggerating to help drive your point
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#58 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
indeed i am.


1 minute 30 seconds for a small 3 seconds climax is not worth it. they are looking for stage performancers. not painters.
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#59 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
That's subjective to you though.

If you personally think it's not worth it that's you.

I personally found the surprise to be very, well in simple words surprising.

Don't try and speak for everyone else
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#60 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
subjective to just about every average person.

masses dont usually like to watch a person draw when they pay them money for an entertaining show.

and yeah. the ending is "surprising" if you have never seen this before. and the painting is impressive. and the trick is nice. however its not worth paying a ticket for just to see this 3 seconds trick done.


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#61 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
>Subjective to about every average person

Speak for yourself please.

And it's more than just her drawing bruv. It's actually pretty damn impressive how she set it up, using the judge himself IN IT was pretty nice.

Plus the reveal was a good shock to.

It's like you keep disguising "Oh well it's boring In general" when you are trying to say

"It's boring if you seen it before" and well that applies to most things.

So what did you expect?
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#62 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
>i would love to pay to see a person paint an extremely bland looking picture for 1 minute 30 seconds and then have somewhat satisfying trick played out in the end that has absolutely no rewatch value whatsoever!

-no one sane ever.


its boring in general is what i have been saying. i only replied that "the trick isnt so amazing after you have seen it a few times" to you getting a raging hard on for the said trick.


and i expected them to put up a stage performance that i would be willing to pay money to see. aka the reason why these talent shows are made. if i wanted to see a person paint a picture there are plenty of free videos on youtube for that.

i think i kinda feel sad for you if this is what qualifies as quality entertainment in your parts.
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#63 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
>i would love to pay to see a person paint an extremely bland looking picture for 1 minute 30 seconds and then have somewhat satisfying trick played out in the end that has absolutely no rewatch value whatsoever!

>Somewhat

Subjective, it's a nice surprise for people who don't know shit about it.

>And i expected them to put up a stage performance that i would be willing to pay money to see. aka the reason why these talent shows are made. if i wanted to see a person paint a picture there are plenty of free videos on youtube for that.

Why buy games when you can torrent amirite?

Why pay for music when you can download it off the internet. Amirite?

It's not the same in a video bruv.

>i think i kinda feel sad for you if this is what qualifies as quality entertainment in your parts.

It's not something people would see over and over and over again, but hell it's pretty neat regardless.

Could you keep to a discussion rather than insulting me please?

It's much more productive, plus it's easier to see your side of things when you don't insult me
#65 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
and you really think this 3 seconds of pay off is REALLY WORTH PAYING MONEY FOR?

seriously?

and you think that it has rewatch value at all?

or that the 3 seconds ending justifies 1 minute 30 seconds of complete boredom?

you dont know much about showbusiness dont you?

and wth is this last part? you arent arguing my point you just shifted it to another argument for no reason whatsoever.

and yeah ,thats why it fails. it has no rewatch value, it makes for a shite show stopper or a number for a show. it just has no value outside of street vendors.


aww did i hurt the iddy biddy roxasses feelings? well thats too sad. how about you actually try focus on the argument instead of crying about it and maybe we can end this conversation some day.
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#67 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
>and you really think this 3 seconds of pay off is REALLY WORTH PAYING MONEY FOR?

>seriously?

Yeah, it's a neat trick with a very nice reveal and it's disguised very well.

>and you think that it has rewatch value at all?

Not really no, I made that apparent in my previous message, and other multiple times.

>you dont know much about showbusiness dont you?

You would be correct, I don't, but I'd still pay to see it honestly, only 'cus I'd like to learn more about the trick itself, that and seeing it IRL would be kinda' cool.

>and wth is this last part? you arent arguing my point you just shifted it to another argument for no reason whatsoever.

Because you are just insulting me without discussing things. I don't mind just like it's off topic, let's try and focus on the discussion here.

>aww did i hurt the iddy biddy roxasses feelings? well thats too sad. how about you actually try focus on the argument instead of crying about it and maybe we can end this conversation some day.

We are literally going back and forth about this. I wanted to avoid it, but whatever I guess.
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#68 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
again. whatever place you live in must be real dull place if this really passes of as worthy stage performance.


and yet you try argue it has it while denying it yourself? again do you not understand what stage performance is??? and what the point of it is?


after reading just how easy you throw money away i just have to give you a good hearted warning: if a nigerian prince asks you for your bank credentials: dont give it to them. its a scam. (then again knowing your standard of quality. i suppose you could call this a good magic trick..)

please point the insult in "and i expected them to put up a stage performance that i would be willing to pay money to see. aka the reason why these talent shows are made. if i wanted to see a person paint a picture there are plenty of free videos on youtube for that. " idiot (this is an insult. i added it here as an example of what an insult is.)


not really. you ignored my last point just to cry about how i hurt your feelings...not really back and forth. just idiotic.
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#70 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
>again. whatever place you live in must be real dull place if this really passes of as worthy stage performance.

Subjective.

>and yet you try argue it has it while denying it yourself? again do you not understand what stage performance is??? and what the point of it is?

An act to entertain on a stage I assume, and as far as I see here, it's an act she is performing, on stage, to entertain.

>after reading just how easy you throw money away i just have to give you a good hearted warning: if a nigerian prince asks you for your bank credentials: dont give it to them. its a scam. (then again knowing your standard of quality. i suppose you could call this a good magic trick..)

I'm not throwing any money way. It depends how much it costs to see it, and the sort.

>please point the insult in "and i expected them to put up a stage performance that i would be willing to pay money to see. aka the reason why these talent shows are made. if i wanted to see a person paint a picture there are plenty of free videos on youtube for that. " idiot (this is an insult. i added it here as an example of what an insult is.)

Let's get off the whole insult thing, it's getting in the way of discussion, like I said multiple times now.
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#76 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
considering your idea of grand time is watching a person paint...yeah i dont think it is.

an act that is boring until the final 3 seconds, that has no rewatch value and generally would not function as a stage show that would draw in the crowd.



then how about you just stop crying about it and actually answer the point for a change?
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#77 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
>considering your idea of grand time is watching a person paint...yeah i dont think it is.

There's more to it than that. There's no reason to undermine it.

>An act that is boring until the final 3 seconds, that has no rewatch value and generally would not function as a stage show that would draw in the crowd.

It being boring is Subjective man. Some people will find it intriguing, and some people won't, I for one was interested in what she was doing.

You weren't. Simple stuff mate.

>then how about you just stop crying about it and actually answer the point for a change?

Stop being vague about the point and ask it, and I'll try my best to answer it.
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#92 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
no there really isnt.. she paints for the entire video then flips around and throws dust on it to reveal the real picture.

i suppose you also enjoy other grand activities like watching paint dry and grass grow?




>please point the insult in "and i expected them to put up a stage performance that i would be willing to pay money to see. aka the reason why these talent shows are made. if i wanted to see a person paint a picture there are plenty of free videos on youtube for that. " idiot (this is an insult. i added it here as an example of what an insult is.)


the first one was quite literally just remarking about how easily you seem to be entertained and what you would consider a good stage show that people would come over to pay and see money for.
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#94 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
>no there really isnt.. she paints for the entire video then flips around and throws dust on it to reveal the real picture.

Which is deception, it's a nice little trick that you didn't expect your first way around, if you don't see it she's coating it with a sticky paint that's black so you can't really see it being applied, hence the deception bit, and throws dust on it when she's done hiding that.

>i suppose you also enjoy other grand activities like watching paint dry and grass grow?

Again there's no need to undermine her performance.

>the first one was quite literally just remarking about how easily you seem to be entertained and what you would consider a good stage show that people would come over to pay and see money for.

See the problem lies in you assume a great deal about what I see as entertainment.

You have such a superiority complex that you can't help but put me down for a "Simpler, more easy to be pleased" mindset, when I literally state it's a pretty cool thing the first way through, no so much second and third.

I'm literally AGREEING with you, but you still feel the need to insult me.

Like holy fuck man I think you need to sit down or some shit
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#99 - angelious (07/25/2016) [-]
and before that its 1 minute 30 seconds PAINTING. followed by 3 seconds reveal. there wasnt anything to keep people interested.hence why the professionals here buzzed her out.


and there is absolutely no reason to wank her performance up.


you have made quite clear on what you see as "entertainment" im more interested in the idea of what you wouldnt find entertaining.


then why try defend it as a good stage act when its just a street vendor trick? you are literally just sperging around for no reason.


and i am sitting down. not a lot of people use computers while standing..then again i suppose wherever you are from has strange customs all around?
#29 - kez (07/25/2016) [-]
It had been 78 seconds and they were bored and no longer cared.

What she did was amazing, but the wait was too long.

ended up being 90 seconds before they saw anything.

Dont get me wrong, it was amazing what she did, but it was boring for 99% of her performance.

She miss-judged it, she should do something she can do in under a minute.
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#75 - advice (07/25/2016) [-]
on these shows you get 90 seconds, so this lady had it perfectly timed.
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#33 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
Fucking. Art takes time, no matter what you fucking draw.

You gotta' wait a little, like they are expecting a pot to boil as soon as the flame starts.

It doesn't work like that, water doesn't fucking work like that, and Art sure as hell doesn't either.

They are just impatient.
#71 - eggoman (07/25/2016) [-]
Society and the media are impatient. Art can conform to society without losing its grandeur. You're one of those people who defends modern art aren't you. Not that it would make you a bad person
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#115 - alostcanadian (07/26/2016) [-]
Society and the media.

so the fucken world?

Please generalize more.
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#122 - eggoman (07/26/2016) [-]
ok so what I'm understanding is you want me to be more specific. HUMAN society and media, better? Just because it's general doesn't mean we can't discuss it. Come on man. Human society and the media that stems from it is a legit topic. I don't see anything else to compare it to in the world.
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#72 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
I don't defend modern art. I'm actually against it.

>Art can conform to society without losing its grandeur.

While you are right, waiting a minute isn't too bad for a really neat reveal on what she was doing.

It's a cool deception piece, she makes you focus on the drawing on top, whilst drawing on the bottom the real piece, and it's a very nice surprise
#34 - kez (07/25/2016) [-]
Ok, so if someone handcarved a piece of wood into a to scale car on stage over a 3 hour duration you would be interested? Or you would spend most of your time bored?

It doesnt matter if its amazing at the end.

Its an entertainment show, and if you spend most of your time not entertaining you cant blame other people.
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#98 - fuunnokami (07/25/2016) [-]
I'd watch the fuck out of that for the full 3 hours and give a standing ovation. Not everything needs to be instantly gratifying
#96 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
3 hours... 90 seconds... totally the same thjng.
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#35 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
True, but you know what I wouldn't fucking say?

"Oh come on, buzz already. It's bad, there's nothing there, we've been looking at this for hours" after it's been only 43 seconds.

And I'd be fucking interested in what some guy was carving honestly.

Not on stage no, but I'd ask him what's he doing, maybe ask him about his life, and watch him go to work for a bit.

Your problem is with that comparison is that you are trying to connect a MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS. To 3 hours.
#36 - kez (07/25/2016) [-]
They are both too long.

Sit still for 90 seconds looking at the wall not doing or thinking about anything, just looking at the wall. Was that enjoyable to you?

The artist made a big mistake, it has to either be a more interesting medium than a painting so people will be interested in the more boring bits, or it has to be done quick enough that people dont lose interest.

No one to blame but herself.

You need to swear less, it doesnt accentuate your point, it makes you sound like an angsty teen.
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#113 - chokolocco (07/25/2016) [-]
people are thumbing you down. Maybe because they are trying to be some fucking decent human beings talking politeness into you as if you don't know it. I on the other think I just learned some good advice from you. I do think though, that all these got talents judges are fucking retards, only a few exceptions
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#66 - froghole (07/25/2016) [-]
The fact that you would be bored out of your mind in the short span of 90 seconds indicates that you are an impatient child. Tons of people out there would love to watch a full blown good painting be done in the miniscule time of 90 seconds. I deem you, retarded.
#54 - doublepzk (07/25/2016) [-]
That's a false analogy. Watching someone do some less common form of painting/art is not analogous to staring at a bland wall. I'm assuming you meant a bland wall because you didn't add any details about it.

However, I do agree to some extent that the judges can't be expected to wait 90 seconds for everyone. Personally? I think I would have waited, but then again I am not a judge, and they certainly see a lot of lame crap that would leave them with lesser expectations.
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#46 - shunkahawolf (07/25/2016) [-]
you know who really looks like the angsty teen? the guy who tries to claim that people using certain words invalidates their point. people have different speaking patterns and mannerisms, some swear, welcome to the world of adults.
#53 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
Professional adults avoid swearing. Swearing is for spoiled children and non-professionals.
#82 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
"Fuck off"

-Albert Einstein
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#38 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
You're trying to connect looking at a wall. And someone drawing on a canvas in a unique odd way. Meaning it SHOULD be more interesting.

Plus are you really turning down them bad mouthing her?

DURING her performance?

Plus that's a really good painting for a minute and 30 seconds, impressive honestly.

You need to look at my points more rather than my mannerisms so we can have a genuine discussion. I apologize for my swearing or profuse use of foul words, because I will not lie, or tell any type of falsehood that would lead you to believe other-wise, but I am what some common folk and a simple laymen would say "Mad." at what they did, because they only needed to look for 3 more seconds.

And a minute and 30 seconds isn't a long time to wait.

And how DARE she want to paint and show a skill she spent YEARS in to even be able to paint it that fast, sometimes shit like what she did takes double the time, or even triple.
#55 - onceapiece (07/25/2016) [-]
Your whole point has been that painting takes time. Why the hell would she go on that show in the first place? If painting takes time, she shouldn't be up on a stage entertaining people for two seconds when other performers can be interesting the whole time. No, you can't really expect an amazing painting after 30 seconds, however you can absolutely expect someone on stage to be interesting. I don't care what she is doing, that is an entertainment show; if she can't be entertaining, she is simply in the wrong place.
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#56 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
She IS entertaining. Did you see how people reacted?

Plus it takes a MINUTE for fucks sake dude.

If you can't wait a minute I think you need to reconsider how you spend your time.

It boils down to everybody being

"IT MUST BE AMAZING FROM THE GET GO. OMG IT'S SOOOOO BORRRINGGGGUH"

Just be fucking patient holy shit.
#91 - sparkysniper (07/25/2016) [-]
Not saying she isn't entertaining, but at least for AGT ( I assume the payoff is the same for all x got talent shows) is a show in Las Vegas.

When I watch these shows, I ask one simple question, and it has nothing to do with whether or not someone has an amazing talent or not, because this is really fucking cool for a minute and a half painting, but would I or the majority of the Las Vegas population pay to see a show that is headlined by this act.

Simply, nope. If I saw this as an act, I wouldn't give it a second glance, as it has no purpose being on a Las Vegas stage. It has more reason to be in art gallery performance stages, where people are actually interested in art, and not drunk off their asses or broke from gambling.
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#93 - roxasftw (07/25/2016) [-]
I understand where you are coming from. And in a sense you are a better Judge than the Judges who fucking got bored with her instead of actual Criticism.

I'm only furious because they couldn't wait 3 more seconds to see what it was about.

And what infuriates me more is the fact that ALL of their damn tunes Change as soon as the crowd Applauds.

It's like at least stand by your bitchy "Nothing to see here it's boring" attitude
#95 - sparkysniper (07/25/2016) [-]
Thats why its always good to have an asshole judge in these shows. They always seem to have that mentality for showmanship.

However,

I think the one thing these shows are missing is audience input, sure right now its all applause or boos and thats ok in a sense, but its just not enough.

I had this idea a couple seasons ago when I did watch AGT. Why not have a audience X, that is buzzed whenever 3/4 of an audience says no to an act, and that is the same as an automatic no from the majority of judges. The mindset being that the audience is a good candidate pool for any study, some people are racist and prejudice and some aren't, so there can't be any of the "that performer is black, I'm going to vote him down" nonsense. If that X goes off, you wouldn't make it in a Las Vegas show at all, as 3/4 of your audience wouldn't show up at all.

To make it more interesting for TV, you have a % meter so they can cut to that every couple shots to create tension, its a win-win, allowing the actual competition to be just that, a competition, and you don't have any of those filler competitors that are solely there for TV.
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#23 - aliennova (07/25/2016) [-]
Comedian: Hang on audience I need to write this joke so you can hear it.
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#28 - gromitsparkles (07/25/2016) [-]
you mean.. stand up comedy?
#17 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
Well to be honest, when you're running a show that probably sees a lot of stupid people doing pointless crap on stage it's not surprising that they'd expect this person was just another one of those useless performances.
#42 - anon (07/25/2016) [-]
IT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB TO LOOK AT USELESS PERFORMANCES

IT CALLS FOR A MASS FIRING
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#1107 - deroderpderp (07/23/2016) [-]
Aaaand im gonna go kill myself.
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